so when you go to mci every night, college football game, high school, little league? we make and year chile at our little league games. who what will be included? what about convenience stores you make these poll into the mom and pop gas station? you can get elk sausage what type of requirements that we place and where do we stop? has anybody thought about it? as we as a committee the to have better definition as to who is in and who is out? total silence. >> congressmen at the risk of your wrath come i just don't think through safety is something that is determined by scale or size of company. i run a train association has very small number several be extremely challenged to comply with this regulation we also have big members but after the last summer outbreak we also found some of the issues and places people were getting sick were the very smallest restaurants we have got to have a system that will take care of ... >> there is a difference between food-processing and food handling. the people of pure love to talk of the foodborne pathogens and sicknesses predomina

has anybody thought about that so when you go to mci arena -- how about when you go to the college football game, how about high school, how about little league? you know, we make deer chili at our little league games. what all is going to be included? how about convenience stores? how about you pull in that mom and pop gas station and they've created something. you can get elk sausage. i mean, what kind of requirements are we going to be placing and where are we going to stop? do we as a committee need to have better definition as to what -- who's in and who's out? total silence. yes. >> congressman, at the risk of your wrath, i just don't think food safety that is something that is determined by scale and the size of company. i run a trade association that has very small members that are going to be extremely challenged to comply with this regulation. and we have big numbers and in some of the places where people were getting sick were the very smallest restaurants. and we've got to be able to have a system that takes care of -- >> well, a difference between food processing and food handl

our next witness is paul hibberd, chairman of the mci department of public utilities, chairman hibberd previously worked for the massachusetts department of environmental protection. we welcome you, sir. whenever you're ready, please begin. >> i want to thank members of the committee for inviting me here today to discuss the topic. i want to thank you all for your leadership in addressing our energy challenges and global climate change and for your wisdom in addressing both at the same time in the legislation. we support your efforts and encourage congress to have the legislation expeditiously. on transmission, we think that ace has got the transmission planning and citing question exactly right. in its current form, it presents a measured and sensitive approach that supports the continued and vital primary role in state and regional resource plan and efforts and it expands the role of ferc to regional planning across a broader geographical footprint and most importantly t does so without jeopardizing the critically important role in competition in the wholesale energy markets. in cont