paul ryan's response is to throw out the c.b.o. numbers -- chris: and get rid of the obama health care plan. before we breaks donald trump is making noise about running for president. as one can observe by the way he is his own number one fan. >> i'm a very smart guy. went to the best college, had good marks. chris: funny, he was making the same comments about himself and toying with running for president in the year 2000. all that bragging was made to order for "saturday night live." >> i want to officially declare my run for the presidency of the united states, and look, hey, don't try to fight it. all right? i'm going to get elected. you know why? because i'm a winner. all right? let me show you something i wrote many -- in my school notebook when i was just 14 years old. here's a list of the things i wanted that day. all right? i made a million bucks, ok? i want a super fast jet. did that. sleep with foxy blondes. i think we know how that went. all i got left is this president thing here and then i'm going to build the world's

paul ryan said this isn't a budget, this is a cause. you talk to democrats and they say what obama said this was the opening salvo in the 2012 presidential campaign. i think we're seeing the broader agents -- arguments we'll have in 2012. it's going to be about fiscal responsibility and health care. medicine care and our social safety net is probably going to be the biggest clash between the two parties and we're going to have another argument over tax cuts. the bush tax cuts and the president saying this week, i extended them once, i refuse to do it again and having republicans on capitol hill saying we're not raising taxes. >> both you and janet spent your week prowling the granite halls on capitol hill and one thing that john boehner, the speaker of the house said, said he's succeeded in shifting the debate into a debate about spending cuts, not about spending. is he right? >> the frame of the debate really has shifted in that direction, whether boehner is single-handedly responsible for it or he was carried by the political forces i

paul mwai and's proposal what the impact that the president is talking about -- paul ryan a's proposal will have the back of the president is talking about. it is not about painting republicans as ogres. you will see a tremendous cut and energy, 70%, 25% cut in education, cuts in programs. those things are going to happen under his proposal. that is not a matter of makeup or mischaracterizing. it is what is going to happen. >> how do you have a serious debate about this, nina? >> well, i am not sure how did the debate gets serious. in some sense you reap what you sow. republicans were trashing obama's plan because of and not controlling costs, and now it has come back to hit them very hard. the truth is that ryan in some ways has a serious plan on medicare. he is right about some things. you do need it skin in the game -- consumers do. obama is also right, in my view, anyway, the division is kind of a skewed. but obama does not have a real long-term -- >> is the president correct when he says that the ball rhinoplasty would create a completely different america? -- that the paul ryan p

but unfortunately for paul ryan when he held a town hall with his constituents they call them out on letting the rich pay less while the middle class disappears. so when will washington get it that they're not doing people hating her disgust with me as alex writes a log log of her think progress or thanks so much for being here tonight so try me now are you with me when i say that there is a huge disconnect there paul ryan this new darling of d.c. the new darling of the media well he just isn't really representing what people want you know to the polling out there shows it yeah absolutely i mean this is paul ryan go into office and actually be in the majority and the republicans came into the majority pushing this radical plan to privatizing medicare which is something that they didn't talk about on the campaign trail and you know seventy one percent of tea partiers oppose privatizing medicare eighty four percent of the american public opposes cutting medicare in order to reduce the deficit so they just got way out ahead of themselves even donald trump has been criticizing paul ryan

you need to know this there's a secret that paul ryan and the republicans who are arguing for even more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires frankly don't want you to know. it's a secret that every republican president since ronald reagan and even to a certain extent bill clinton didn't want us to know about and that secret is that supply side economics that we sometimes call trickle down economics or reaganomics doesn't work in fact it only works to do one thing create a massive wealth inequality and screws over ninety eight percent of us and rains down money on the other two percent who use that extra cash to speculate on wall street and crash our economy supply side economics has never ever worked anywhere it's ever been tried anywhere in the world it's never worked trickle down economics only produces a nation of peons yet here republicans are trying to pass a budget it will embrace an even more radical version of reaganomics further slashing the tax rates for america's oligarchy and leaving the rest of us pick up the tab by dropping our health insurance taking food off our ta

yeah absolutely and they play this you know false equivalency game where they see that paul ryan made something really bold which it is bold and radical and sort of actually looking at what it does they just say oh this must be some great bold courageous new plan because he's putting it forward but it's courageous the same way jumping in front of eight lanes of traffic is courageous it's you know unpopular and radical but is not an actual way to solve the deficit it doesn't even do what it sets out to do which is which is solve the deficit it's based on phony math and it's totally not what the american people want he think that the media also fails to i don't know connect the dots and look at the big picture of things they feel like i'm sure they'll might throw out a statistic or report or a poll number and that will be the poll for that. ok and then they'll move on with it they won't look at the bigger picture they won't look at these statistics and put them all together they won't look at the fact that the middle class is disappearing in this country they won't look at the fact that

paul ryan is doing it on the back of poor people and seniors. he says to the seniors, you're grandfathered in if you are over 55, but he wants to make proposals that are going to put more pressure on domestic, discretionary spending. he's not doing much about defense spending in this country. he is not doing anything in terms of raising taxes to compensate and say the sacrifice will be shared across all areas of our economy. the rich get off like scoundrels. they are happy. they're like the executives on wall street this week getting all the big bonuses, despite all the -- >> it's shameful to make money. >> oh, get out of town. >> chris: you're making them out like scoundrels. >> you should be ashamed to use that language as the host of the show. >> chris: what are you talking about? >> you should be impartial. >> more like brit hume. >> chris: that's right. >> you don't think the wall street guys are scoundrels -- >> chris: you didn't say wall street guys. you said the rich making out like scoundrels. >> they're getting breaks and will get more

paul ryan doesn't. we're in such a hold even making the major reform you don't want to affect people currently on medicare. you have grandfather them. you don't get the balance within the decade. jim jordon of the republican senate committee will unveil drastic, rapid reduction in rate of growth of medicare. i think it's the responsible way to cut government. we have a crisis. we're going bankrupt and paul ryan is trying to prevent us from doing that. i think it can be sold as policy and politics and we'll get it attacked from the right for being too slow and from president obama being too harsh. >> what you see on the republican side is the need, then, i think to sell it. not only to republicans but sell it to constituents. what ryan's solution is we're just going to grandfather in everybody who is over 55 i think he told you this morning. if this was a national emergency, don't we have to make a sacrifice, everybody in the country working together to cut back on entitlement? the one point that he is r

paul ryan put it on the table. let's not talk about the next six months but ten years. if you make a political stand, make other over something really big and important not over this. but that's not the prevailing view right now in the republican caucus in the house. >> charlie: so tell me first about barack obama and how he's handling it and what the options are for the democrats. >> first i think gerry is right in the sense this is a different obama than we saw in the first two years but not a different obama than we saw crucially in the lame duck session. he tried to put himself apart from both meerts and above both parties saying he's the adult in the room the last man standing. the difference this is that deal he had the democrat base did not like renook the bush tax cuts but president obama could turn to the democrats and say there's more stimulus in here, a bunch of unemployment insurance and other goodies here. he's got nothing to turn to democrats and say is there any good in this. this is just more and more cuts to more and more programs that are valuable to d

congressman paul ryan told the newshour that the u.s. has to reimagine its social safety net to bring the budget in line. and u.n. and french diplomats worked to broker a deal for ivory coast's entrenched president to leave office. and to hari sreenivasan, for what's on the newshour online. hari? >> sreenivasan: margaret talked one-on-one with mark malloch- brown about his new book, he unfinished global revolution." that's on the rundown blog. there's more from our politics beat on reaction to representative ryan's budget proposal. plus our science unit explains the difference between the materials in a nuclear reactor and those found in a nuclear bomb. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll look at the latest on the radiation levels in japan, and the task ahead for haiti's new president. i'm judy woodruff. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. we'll see you online, and again here tomorrow evening. thank you, and good night. major funding for the pbs newsho

. >> the chairman of the house budget committee, paul ryan, on april 5th, last week, unveiled his path to prosperity. that's the title of ryan's plan to drive down the national debt, a national debt that is now more than $14 trillion. the driving force of the ryan plan is reforming medicare and medicaid, which many believe are the biggest debt drivers. reforming medicare, beginning in 2022, roughly 10 years from now, medicare would pay a portion of the premium for private health insurance plans, chosen by seniors themselves. the operative word is private health insurance plan. reforming medicaid, making a bloc grant to the states. projected savings, chairman ryan claims that over 10 years his plan will cut nearly $800 billion. president obama, eight date laser, april 13th, delivered his counter-plan for long-term debt reduction. that plan is titled shared prosperity and shared fiscal responsibility. >> i will not tell families with children with disabilities they have to fends for themselves. >> here are the obama reforms on medicare and medicaid. reforming medicare beginning in 2018,

ryan released his budget for two thousand and twelve today and ryan laid out as planned he says would cut six point two trillion dollars in spending over the next ten years bringing spending below twenty percent of g.d.p. and reducing the deficit by four point four trillion dollars it would also gut medicare and medicaid and leave defense spending pretty much on time and revamp some tax cuts some people have called it political suicide others have said it's the most courageous political move they've ever seen so which one is it going to be to discuss it as a reporter and blogger a blogger for think progress dot org and a progress report the center for american progress and liz mair vice president of heinz communications and former communications director for the republican national committee thanks for joining me you really got to work on making those title a little shorter could it all pull every time now. you know i just say it has to be longer show that it's done last week apparently we had this compromise apparently you know my president joe biden said everything's good john boehn

paul ryan is trying to move it in that direction. if he gets halfway that far, he'll probably accept that. >> it's dead on arrival in the senate. what democrats say is that the greatest leverage that medicare has to bring down prices overall is that it's so big and covers so many people. you take that money and send it all to the private sector, you basically give up any leverage the government has to bring. >> schieffer: thanks to both of you. one thing for sure, you'll both have plenty to do. >> no doubt. >> schieffer: i'll be back in a moment with some final thoughts. ♪ crossing borders with ease ♪ ♪ clearing customs' a breeze ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ a-di-os, cheerio, au revoir ♪ ♪ off it goes, that's logistics ♪ ♪ over seas, over land, on the web, on demand ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ operations worldwide, ups on your side ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ go to e-trade and tap into the power of revolutionary mobile apps to trade wherever, whenever. life isn't experienced sitting idly by. neither is investi

ryan just completely ignores defense spending is not one of the things that everyone said should be on the table should all be on the table and that a very big you know cost you that it is a big cost but let's be realistic about this the driver of spending is entitled ment's and nobody else is talking about any plan to deal with this i mean everything that you've said maybe we should have a discussion about that i don't hear the president saying it into the question and the question as to why should he when there's all this disagreement because he's the president it's his job this is what he's supposed to do and he refuses to do it and the consequence of that is he's presenting the country with two options are ryan's one is and heilman sco completely bust and then we really won't have anything or we face massive tax increases to fund these things down the road and some estimates are looking at you know huge tax increases potentially like up to eight percent that's a phenomenal number and it's something that frankly i think if we're going to have a discussion about opinion polls let'

only paul ryan can see his unicorn. he created in medicare, which is a good example, -- the cbo said it is going to increase by one $0.40 trillion. host: we will hear from paul ryan and social security. >> it will send us away from talking about this. when we decided to do is this traitor, which is not unlike the old medicare trigger. it requires a mission out plans to come to the table and act on it. we believe that this probably gives us the best opportunity in chance to get a bipartisan agreement on social security. it is insolvent. we need to fix it. the sooner you do, the better off it is. the deeper the whole we dig, the more we delay. on health care, we are worlds apart. we do not want government-run health care. that is what obama-care does in my opinion. we put specific proposals on how we would do would different, but on social security, there is a chance to come together. that is why we're trying to advance with this proposal. guest: if you listen carefully, he says they do not want government-run health care

has passed another one of paul ryan's budget plans this one targets snap the supplemental nutrition assistance program also known as food stamps help break down his bizarre plan and just where the idea of cutting include assistance to the poor comes from here's a hint the movie was just released about and finally ideally take tonight on lolita on the a spot of the world that's currently occupied by our nation. the united states of america. today kicks off earth week and it comes on the heels of a violent warning from mother nature over the weekend forty five people were killed in six states in the norm a storm that ripped across the country causing widespread damage and wildfires are right now sweeping across texas and new mexico threatening to turn housing communities in a massive piles of ash coming off a winter filled with unusually damaging storms and much more apocalyptic weather do we need to go through before climate change is accepted by our lawmakers well apparently a lot more in the first few months republican rule in the house of representatives we've witnessed an unprecedented all

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well, from town to town we saw paul ryan get an earful from voters here. the powerful house budget committee chairman is fighting for his plan to reduce the country's debt. during this visit he's got 19 meetings. four of them just today. >> hey, everybody. >> reporter: he's the republican number cruncher. >> we put our budget on a path to not only balance but to pay off the debt. >> reporter: 41-year-old father of three paul ryan has represented wisconsin more than a dozen years. suddenly he's a lightning rod. >> paul ryan looks like a nice young man. >> reporter: targeted by liberal groups. >> ending medicare so millionaires can get another tax break? >> reporter: a laugh line on cable. >> we do tax the top. the top -- [ boos ]. >> that is paul ryan, the architect of the plan, being booed! >> reporter: today ryan claimed his critics don't get it. >> it's people who don't understand what we're doing with medicare. what i find is there's a lot of demagoguery and distortion occurring. >> reporter: armed with a powerpoint sales pitch, ryan is traveling his di

also about paul ryan plan, it is going to hurt poor people. poor people out there making sacrifices for years, four years. they know how to make sacrifices. so when they said that everybody needs to make sacrifices, they need to stop -- start with that stopped two% that had been basically snatching it from the babies of the poor. i want to thank you for allowing me to speak. host: another story from "usa today," more on its impact in washington, d.c. in advance of the final vote of the budget agreement, they have attacked the obama administration and lawmakers for imposing a ban on the city using its own tax revenue to fund abortions for poor women. this comment from our twitter page. scott, good morning. what is on your mind? caller: is obama losing his base? it depends on how you look at it. some of the people that do not have jobs see that the job number went down last month. what we do not see is the 200,000 people every two or three months they are losing their unemployment and being counted out of the system and it is making it look like

and paul ryan laid out a budget this week. that's the stuff of which i think in 2012 election will be fought over, not whether we cut 38 billion or 37.2 billion or whether, what kind of language we work in on planned parenthood. >> i see it go back and forth. people say i think the government shutdown is going to take place, others say no i think it's moving in the other direction. is there a sense at 7:00 where it's trending? >> they will either avoid a shutdown all together, or if there is one it will be a very short shutdown. i don't think, there's no leader in either party without wants to have a shutdown. there may be some rank and file types. but it is not the wiser political heads certainly want to avoid a shutdown now. in part charlie because there may be as i say there may be times in the future where it's going to be very hard to compromise. so this is -- >> this is a time where they don't want to shoot all their wad because they have got a lot of places left. >> what happens if there is a shutdown, a partial shutdow

joining me now is republican congressman paul ryan. he is the chairman of the house budget chiti and he crafted the republican budget proposal that was unveiled last week. the congressman joins me now from the capitol. i am pleased to have him here at this moment. welcome. >> charlie, it's great to be back here with you. you attended the speech. was it what you expected? >> quite honestly, charlie, it was pretty much the opposite of what i expected. i had thought that with this invitation and this talk about bringing more developments and more of an olive branch on budget that he was going to extend an olitch branch so he could get down the path the bipartisan solutions. we got anything but that. we got bitter partisanship. we got dramatic distortion of our budget proposal. and, you know, i guess i was thinking at the beginning of the week when he sent his campaign manager out to mention he was going to do the speech, rather than his budget director or treasury secretary a little red flag rose in my mind but i disposed of it and when i

. >> house budget committee chairman paul ryan this week unveiled a g.o.p. budget proposal for 2012 and beyond. the wisconsin republican developed the plan, dubbed it "path to prosperity" with advice from alice rivland, former head of the non-partisan congressional budget office. budget chairman ryan's path to prosperity framework begins with posterity. item, roll back federal spending. whether it's green energy, solar, wind, et cetera, to farm subsidies and discretionary spending, and domestic and defense spending will be cut back to 2008 spending levels and frozen for five years. item, cut federal payrolls through hiring freeze% attrition. the federal workforce would be cut by 10%. item, reform medicare. for those today under the age of 55, that's today, medicare would be transformed to a system of "premium support" beginning roughly 10 years from now, in 2022, medicare would pay a portion of the premium for private health insurance plan chosen by the seniors themselves. item, reform medicaid. make it a bloc grant to the states directly. item, overhaul the

the real battle is coming from the paul ryan fiscal 2012 budget. republicans were very successful in this round because they put social issues on the table and now they have these democratic interest groups that have to play defense. they forced the democrats to make deeper spending cuts than they intended. whether it or not we look at the top end s to comes out looking like a leader, ok, but that will last very long because we of come right into the budget debate. it is important to understand that the discussion that was just under way in washington, this entire shut down issue, which over the six months remaining, that is all that it was. a warm-up act to another flight that is starting now, it actually started last week with the fiscal 2012 budget. this was just a dress rehearsal. host: you have been talking with key committee members. in essence, to summarize what of your pieces, this was the harry reid, barack obama, john boehner show. guest: indeed. a test run for the coming debate over the fiscal 2012 budget. ultimately congress needs to vo

except that there's a bit of a problem with paul ryan's mouth and apparently his morals too well the congressional budget office just released its analysis of the plan and if you're old if you care about the nation's debt or happen to not be a millionaire prepared to get screwed you see that four trillion dollars in spending cuts comes at the expense of low income americans moreover seniors will be paying forty percent more and medicare costs under paul ryan's plan and here's the kicker the g.o.p. plan will actually increase our nation's debt why is that because the four trillion dollars in cuts are offset by gigantic. tax cuts for the rich tax cuts that will cost our nation much more in the long haul so basically the republicans don't do anything this country will probably be better off perforce this is probably what we should expect from a party that's subservient to transnational corporate c.e.o.'s who want their tax cuts not to mention the for profit health insurance c.e.o.'s that seem to be more than happy to see him a few billion dollars off medicare and these republicans will

host: congressman paul ryan. "usa today" covers this story and says that paul ryan, the author of the gop plan, it sat in the front row for president obama's speech. "what emergedays were duly lines in the sand." our next call.to we have ryan in michigan. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a couple of complaints. i'm tired of hearing the republicans complain about class warfare by the democrats. they have been practicing economic warfare for the last four years. i'm also tired of mr. paul ryan demagoguing it. he is offering nothing new. the republicans have been trying to kill social security. the plan for social security was nothing but a poison pill. they were trying to make the fund go bust. it's real simple. they've been trying to kill government since 1980 since ronald reagan. but they are ridiculous. they're going to push us over the edge into the next great depression. host: you can continue the conversation we're having about president obama's deficit plant at facebook.com/cspan. president obama h

ryan's plan released in. middle of the budget showdown that almost shut down our government and months after the president's deficit reduction committee came up with its own recommendations so in this plan obama wants to reduce the deficit by four trillion dollars over the next twelve years for the final balance of achieving three dollars in spending reductions for every dollar generated and additional tax revenue this would include defense cuts saving seven hundred fifty billion dollars in domestic spending reforming medicare and medicaid but keeping both and keeping the affordable care act here as well as ending tax cuts for the rich now the anger responses from both sides of the aisle have already begun but was this speech good enough to sell the nation on it and to get the people excited or is this just going to be the beginning of the battle from hell joining me to discuss it is david these political reporter for politico thanks so much for being here tonight good to be with you about this speech i guess

the ryan plan. >> paul ryan is eight years younger than the president but vastly more had experienced and conversant with these issues. the republicans are now bound with hoops of steel by this plan by ryan. they really can't avoid it. the president can't avoid engaging it. the president's initial response was that the democrats say this is extreme. this extreme plan by paul ryan envisions over the next decade a 34% increase in federal spending. it envisions adding trillions of dollars to the national debt. that's how slow the glide plan is that he proposes. furthermore, on medicare, medicare is doomed, as we know it. not by mr. ryan, but by mr. arithmetic. it just doesn't work anymore. and, therefore, when he proposes essentially what the bipartisan commission on medicare proposed more than a decade ago, premium support, which is no matter what mr. hollen said a moment ago, essentially what every federal worker has from the man to delivers your mail to harry reid who delivers stuff. >> but it's not what seniors have now. i mean that is the big change. it's important to under, you are

ryan's plan he did it i liked it and he went right at the medicare cuts which democrats believe are a winning issue for them for the republicans to say you're going to reform transform medicare take away that guarantee health care benefits for seniors is a winning issue to be believed because seniors vote may vote in important states like florida where they were tired which is going to be important for the president so he went right at that but i do think you know give the republicans credit they sort of frame this issue paul ryan's budget as frame the issue for the president now he is responding to it a week later so if you think that obama lost out perhaps he entered the game a little bit too late i mean as i imagine the deficit reduction committee that was last year that was in december then republicans came out and they were the first found low this budget in the middle of the whole budget debate you know just for that for the next six months that we were going through i think it's important to point out that the president embraced some of the proposals in the commission's plan