and the coroner, wally miller, said, you know, this isn't a city. this is hunters' haven out here. hunting season started in a couple of weeks. for a city boy like me, this was farmland. you wouldn't have been able to hide anything. so nothing has come back. the other thing is there was the norad tapes are available. there's a story in "vanity fair" magazine, they're accessible online. this is not a criticism of the military. everybody was so confused that morning. this had never happened before. it's easy to look at history in 20/20 hindsight, with 20/20 clarity. there was no protocol for shooting down a commercial jetliner. and there were four armed f-16s on the east coast, two of them over new york and two from happeningly were assigned to -- langley were assigned to go to, actually, first baltimore because they thought washington was going to get hit. if you see the movie united 93, the guy is screaming why are they over the ocean? that's the way they were trained. they were trained against foreign threats. they weren't trained to go against a commercial airliner with american