this is dick heller. those of you that heard of heller supreme court, this is dick heller. it's a real man. right? >> a real dude. >> it's a real dude. he's a real dude. he is a dude. we're great friends and he has changed my life in the sense that i have the right and have a gun at home legally in district of columbia solely because of this man's fight. >> thank you. >> so dick, take me back because people hear about the heller decision and don't realize it was one man that fought and fought and fought for so many years. take me back to, i am sure it was before i was born, when this all started. >> i moved to washington, d.c. in 1976, three months later said oh, my favorite television program is "gunsmoke" i like matt dillon guns, i went and bought one because there were no regulation o regulation or restrictions. i bought that in july, 1976. and in october they passed a law that said you were no longer allowed to own any kind of firearm in d.c., but you could not buy one after that, but you could be grandfathered in by coming down to the police station and registering you

heller: let's see. the first decision would have been -- since it was a federal issue, firearm is a federal case, it went to the d.c. district court it is called. and let's see. it was a struggle to get there. but the decision flip-flopped back-and-forth, and finally we won in the appellate court. d.c. said we are going to challenge this. emily: by saying you won, you got to the appellate court, which are regionally around the country. the d.c. appellate court said you won, completely owning guns. then the mayor said we would bring this to the supreme court. mr. heller: exactly. emily: that was a tactical mistake, well known by the d.c. mayor. it opened up a lot of people -- which people did not see coming -- the supreme court made its ruling in 2008 in a landmark heller case that said, what? dick: the supreme court, my favorite quote -- there is a lot of stories, interesting stories to get to the supreme court, but my favorite story about the supreme court is that i did not know anything about the law.

they say that dick heller is such a normal dude. if he can do what he did -- they thought it was me by myself, but it was a battery of lawyers. emily: it was one man sitting in the courthouse. [speaking simultaneously] dick: so they said that dick heller, he is such a normal, ordinary dude, if he can do that , we can do that. dave and colleen lawson put together the otis and laura mcdonald case. chicago, chicago versus mcdonald. emily: this is constitutional history. when the heller decision was scalia 2008, justice wrote that the individual rights atkeep arms, to own an arm home cannot be infringed. there was a lot of confusion whether it belonged to the militia, when you read that other segment. i suggest reading the heller decision. it is so readable it is not boring legal stuff at all. it is really interesting. if it was boring -- it is easy to read and not unapproachable. it said the problem was overall for the country is only -- d.c. is not a state, thank goodness. what he is talking about is when this couple went to chicago a

-- dick heller, that's it. what was it like with all the justices in front of you? >> the supreme court gallery for observers is not much bigger than his inner area. >> very small. >> very small. it was full of people, and you could hear your heart beat. it was like being in a quiet room, if you are familiar with that. if a mouse ran across the floor, you would have heard it. front table, that looking up at the supreme court justices? it was soer thing is quiet, how quiet was it other than the mouse? it was so quiet, total silence, and then the court clerk smashes , and it got quiet again. and then there was the strangest noise i had never heard before, and the justices are coming through the curtain, and the noise was the swishing of their robes as they climbed the four steps to the bench. >> wow. >> that is how quiet it was. >> that is very cool. and you are like oh, there they come. >> and it is like that noise. noises]ooshing -- youyou think this forget the supreme court hears the case and does not make a d

those were left undecided by heller. in the time since then, what we have seen is state legislatures have decided to fill out the larger meaning of heller. in conservative states like texas where i am from, the practical activities are very robust. you enjoy great second amendment freedoms. in california or illinois or maryland or new york, those state legislatures are combining those associated activities very narrowly. just this week on tuesday, the supreme court denied review of a case out of california that the ninth circuit held that restricts your second amendment rights. yesterday the second circuit, just yesterday, upheld a new york city law that said if i have a permit in new york city -- it was a premises permit, i can't take my pistol to westchester county to arrange and bring it back into the city. the second circuit said that does not violate second amendment rights. they are defining that in a way that is incredibly narrow, and i would argue it is impractical. that is the battle if i can say it that way tha

that's what heller spoke to. and heller leaves open the door to regulate and even restrict ban for automatic weapons, like ar-15s. >> part of what is being discussed. ken, to you, looking back to 1994, an example of washington jumping in on this issue, that was when president clinton signed into law the public safety and recreational weapon law. but that expired in 2004. so, talk to me a little bit more about what happened then. >> they also, if i remember my history correctly, i'm going back 24 years, they also instructed state officials, sheriffs in particular, they had to do certain things. those pieces were found unconstitutional. because they can't tell state officials to do things including in the area of the gun control and i really think you're going to see a more, if we're going to impact the particular problem the tragedy we had parkland, remember we had virginia tech and virginia, we had similar failures in our mental health system. if we're going to address this it's going to be a lot more comprehensi

so that was important for us with regards to senator heller. we have not ruled any in or out. as far as incumbents go, we're not looking. but we have definitely ruled in approaches in wisconsin with regard to senator baldwin and senator heitkamp, donnelly, and mccaskill who are so bipartisan at this -- so partisan at this point. bill: you mentioned the tax plan and the health care vote. is there a -- when you're evaluating candidates, is there one -- mr. phillips: we said tax reform was our top priority. that will be the most pornt but we do look at other issues like spending in general. criminal justice reform. that is an issue that folks may be surprised to hear we worked on. but we worked on it during the obama years. members of our network reached out and dealt with holder and those in the obama administration on criminal justice reform. we think that is a pathway, there is a pathway for passage on the federal side. there is some bipartisan support and we are urging that. sometimes theyto beat their chest and say we want want to be tough on crime. you are not being tough o

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i also think that -- >> just like that's the opposite of the heller decision. at one moment, the court decided 5-4, we're going to have marriage equality. the same court goes 5-4 and say everyone has in the d.c. case, the howard case, everybody has a right to a gun regardless of militias or anything else. it's the courts. it's not the states. they're not doing there. >> even before columbine happened many years before the heller decision. this country was awash in guns long before 2008 when that decision came down. so you know, one of the problems that gun control advocates have is that piecemeal gun control tends not to work because if indiana has a permissive regime and illinois doesn't, guns come. i'm saying we have to have a serious conversation about why we enshrine this as a right and we're not going to get started unless we are talking about it. by the way, i'm not by any means as opposed to responsible people owning guns. as responsible people own guns in say japan or australia or the united kingdom, countries that don't have nearly the kind of firearms

when did you learn that the democrats in heller campaign had paid for the dons -- paid for the dossier? these are all questions -- these are 10 simple questions. we hope by the end of next week we will have the answers. my i'm not going to hold breath for those answers. >> so we have this term, "cover-up," i keep thinking -- i turn 50 this year, i'm getting old. -- this year, i'm getting old. ofs is like there is a lot investigating, i don't know whether that is a coincidence or not. is it fair to ask what did resident obama no yak that obama know -- obama know? the answers you are try to get to with these questions. >> we need to know all of the officials, at the time, when they knew about this. move forward, we will get through this as a country. but we have to make sure people are held accountable, so that everyone knows that it's never going to be ok to take their it from a foreign actor, that was essentially made up out of whole againstnd then use it the other campaign. no matter whose campaign that is. [applause] here,s a lot of people you run into so many retired military, retir

>> i think what the supreme court has said in heller is this is an individual right. but they also said there are no absolute rights in the constitution. the late justice scalia acknowledged that. which means there can be reasonable limitations, just as there could be reasonable limitations on things like free speech. the question is, the range of those limitations and how much the supreme court is willing to tolerate. now, people have debated whether, for example, a state can outlaw an entire class of weapon. and the assumption is that some bands would be constitutional, but there's still a lot of law that needs to be written in this area. heller, even though this is a right that the supreme court says existed when the second amendment was enacted, it's a relatively new right in the sense of actual case law. so we're all groping a bit in the dark here's as to where those limits are. >> well, and the court is keeping us there, too, obviously intentionally, because right now they seem pleased with heller, right? >> right. and there's various reasons. these justices cou

when did you learn that the democrats in heller campaign had -- in the hillary clinton campaign had paid for the dossier? these are all questions, these are 10 simple questions. we hope by the end of next week answers, will have the but i am not going to hold my breath. host: so we have this term, "cover-up." i keep thinking, i turn 50 this year, i'm getting old. i think about when i was told about watergate. there are all these terms out there that came out of that investigation. it seems like when there is a republican president, it seems like there was a lot of investigating -- i don't know if it is a coincidence or not -- is it fair to ask, what did president obama know? when was he briefed? these are the answers that you are trying to get to with these questions. rep. nunes: we need to know all of the officials, at the time, when they knew about this. when we move forward, we will get through this as a country. but we have to make sure people are held accountable, so that everyone knows that it's never going to be ok to take dirt from a foreign actor that was essentially made up out

andrew kolodny, co-director of opioid research at the heller school of social policy, said this could pave the way for other drug companies. >> this decision will help prevent more people from getting addicted and if other drug skers start to do the same, it could have a very significant impact on preventing opioid addiction. >> now i can enjoy every day that i live. thcan really enjoy myself. >> reporter: purdue's move is a change in tune from this message they sent to 15,000 doctors in 1998. >> the rate of addiction amongst pain patients who are treated by doctors is much less than 1%. >> reporter: ohio attorney general mike dewine filed lawsuits against several pharmaceutical companies including purdue, making ohio tie of 14 states suing the maycontin maker for deceptive marketing. >> it is very addicting and the drug companies knew that and they lied about it. >> reporter: purdue denies the allegations but they have spent millions of dollars on settlements. >> i would love for purdue pharma and these other drug companies to follow me around just one day, give me one day, and i wil

are really interesting they're going on about how russian hackers were involved in the election how heller warned us against trump russia collusion and how those ties must be investigated let's take a listen to some of the best hits of what they are to be found in there. to demand that house jewel be do its job and theirs to get drawn brushing timers things you can't ignore ration plant as you next. so americans have been so awfully radicalized by groups russian propaganda to electronic perhaps the biggest threat and those are supposed to be tweets that are coming from accounts that are linked to the kremlin it just doesn't quite fit together and the internet is of course it's just a very divisive place everybody has their opinions and everybody feels free to post them there so this database really just does feel like a round up of the typical things that you can find on twitter. news which dug up those tweets was recently accused of false reporting in its coverage of alleged russian interference an official from the homeland security department who was interviewed for its report slammed t

are really interesting they're going on about how russian hackers were involved in the election how heller warned us against trump russia collusion and how those ties must be investigated let's take a listen to some of the best hits of what they are whether to be found in there. to demand that house jewel be do its job and this to get drawn brushing time is things you can't ignore ration plant as you next. so americans have been so awfully radicalized by groups russian propaganda to electrum perhaps the biggest threat. so there we have tweets talking about russian propaganda. trumping kremlin puppet and those are supposed to be tweets that are coming from accounts that are linked to the kremlin it just doesn't quite fit together and the internet is of course it's just a very divisive place everybody has their opinions and everybody feels free to post them there so this database really just does feel like a roundup of the typical things that you can find on twitter that's around just you can have an opinion on twitter disagree with me all right jack thanks very much for the. a spike in anti

are really interesting they're going on about how russian hackers were involved in the election how heller warned us against trump or russia collusion and how those ties must be investigated let's take a listen to some of the best hits of what they are to be found in there. to demand that house g.o.p. do its job and investigate. this things you can't ignore irrational plant as you next by. some americans have been subtly radicalized by groups russian propaganda to electronic perhaps the biggest threat and those are suppose to be tweets that are coming from accounts that are linked to the kremlin it just doesn't quite fit together and the internet is of course it's just a very divisive place everybody has their opinions and everybody feels free to post them there so this database really just does feel like our roundup of the typical things that you can find on twitter or b c news was recently accused of false reporting in its coverage of alleged russian interference to a cyber security chief from the u.s. homeland security was interviewed for its report slow on the network for misrepresenti

are really interesting they're going on about how russian hackers were involved in the election how heller warned us against trump russia collusion and how those ties must be investigated let's take a listen to some of the best hits of what they are to be found in there. to demand that house g.o.p. do its job and investigate don't drown brush this things you can't ignore irrational plant as you next by. some americans have been softly radicalized by hate groups russian propaganda to elect trump perhaps the biggest threat and those are supposedly tweets that are coming from accounts that are linked to the kremlin it just doesn't quite fit together and the internet is of course it's just a very divisive place everybody has their opinions and everybody feels free to post them there so this database really just does feel like a roundup of the typical things that you can find on twitter. separately n.b.c. news was recently accused of false reporting in its coverage of alleged russian interference the cyber security chief from the u.s. homeland security department who was interviewed for its rep

are really interesting they're going on about how russian hackers were involved in the election how heller warned us against trump russia collusion and how those ties must be investigated let's take a listen to some of the best hits of what they are whether to be found in their. jeweled be do it's job is to get drawn brushing times things you can't ignore ration plant as you're next. some americans have been softly rather close by hate groups russian propaganda through electronic perhaps the biggest threat and those are supposed betweens that are coming from accounts that are linked to the kremlin it just doesn't quite fit together and the internet is of course it's just a very divisive place everybody has their opinions and everybody feels free to post them there so this database really just does feel like a roundup of the typical things that you can find on twitter. a spike in anti-semitic attacks in germany has prompted government action i'll have the details on that for you when we come back. the protocol is hard coded. the world as we know it and those trying to get their way will be

i couldn't have this a decade ago until a man named heller sued washington, d.c., and won. but in that, scalia, who i think we can all agree it was conservative, he said there are limits to the second amendment. you can't tell people they can have guns, but you can put reasonable prohibitions on guns. it's hard to for me to understand how bump stocks -- we've been on air for a minute and 50 seconds. stephen paddock held that trigger for 11 minutes straight. we will sit here for maybe five more minutes. imagine a machine gun going off into a crowd killing 58 people. that was a bump in stock. let's get rid of it. >> laura: we just put up a photo of nikolas cruz, who did not have a bump stock. it was used in the las vegas shooting. the dramatic nature of this conversation i think is powerfu powerful. emotions can't win back the day. facts are facts. explain to us what the bump stock really is. >> it certainly doesn't convert a semiautomatic -- >> laura: that's what the president said. kind of. >> he ordered that it be -- that are will be issued. if they do go down that road, i

are really interesting they're going on about how russian hackers were involved in the election how heller warned us against trump or russia collusion and how those ties must be investigated let's take a listen to some of the best hits of what they are to be found in there. to demand that house g.o.p. do its job and investigate don't trump rush into this things you can't ignore a russian plant as your next president of the united states some americans have been subtly radicalized by groups russian propaganda to electronic perhaps the biggest threat and those are supposed to be tweets that are coming from accounts that are linked to the kremlin it just doesn't quite fit together and the internet is of course it's just a very divisive place everybody has their opinions and everybody feels free to post them there so this database really just does feel like our roundup of the typical things that you can find on twitter well n.b.c. news was a recently accused of false reporting news coverage of alleged russian interference as cyber security chief indeed from u.s. homeland security was interview

the heller decision said maybe states can have reasonable restrictions on arms ownership. if you raise the age for all adults to 21 to keep and bear arms and we still consider voters at 18 to be adults, then i think you have run afoul of the constitution. kennedy: i think you are right. then we have this gray area, late adolescence, which i think does a great disservice to society. i appreciate yours and the work you are doing on this and the other issues. >> the police aren't obligated to protect you. they have no legal obligation. this has been established by the courts. i heard that from a columbine survivor. he was party to a lawsuit and the lawsuit went nowhere. he found out the police aren't obligated to protect you. if they aren't obligate you need to be able to carry a firearm. kennedy: we can't always rely on the government to keep us safe. so, you know, an ongoing conversation to say the least. kennedy: the president spoke about gun control with governors today an didn't hold back about reports that multiple officers stayed safe outside the school while shots ran

. >> art historian dennis heller explains that in the early 1600s, the young rembrandt van rijn, born in the dutch city of leiden, is studying art with some of the local masters. he will soon eclipse them all, but it's during this time that the teenage sensation creates a set of little-known paintings depicting the five senses -- touch, sight, hearing, taste, and smell. >> rembrandt's early works don't bring out this rembrandt-esque quality that we equate with the artist. early rembrandt has really only been rediscovered in the last 50-to-60 years. >> rembrandt's paintings of touch, hearing, and sight are accounted for. in fact, thomas kaplan owns touch, and hearing, but the remaining two, taste, and smell have been lost for hundreds of years. >> we're all looking for the five senses. [ laughs ] >> so, it seems those european phone bidders had sniffed around and concluded that the landau brothers' strange inheritance must be the master's long-lost painting of smell. >> the fact that it's a triple portrait, it has people dressed in these outlandish clothes, and it's an allegory for one

. >> dean heller the most vulnerable. facing a difficult primary challenge against well-known, he's had his disagreements with the president, i'm with the president all the way, the primary will be to watch and serious pickup opportunity for the democrats. jillian: how do you think will play out? >> don't have any idea until primary comes and goes. jillian: indiana. >> a state that donald trump won by 19 points and it really is, you know, fly-over country personified. do you want chuck schumer to have a bigger role in confirming judicial nominations of president trump, very difficult position. jillian: finally, another that's a must-win. >> donald trump won by 19. she's going to putin credible fight, again, you will hear about judicial nominations and hear about the tax cut that shoe voted against and i expect donald trump will be in missouri during this campaign. jillian: all right, certainly going to be interesting how this plays out. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. jillian: 18 minutes after the hour. first it b

i think we have to reverse heller. i think there should not be in an individual right to own a gu gun. >> laura: right now, we have a massive effort by celebrities and students to a boycott of the nra. alyssa milano i know she's high on your list of authorities, calling for a one-day boycott of amazon, apple tv, fedex, don't scream, don't ship, the president said we are not endorsing the nra but we aren't playing this game because where does it end? about the company's views on climate change, have you ever done a road race where planned parenthood ever had a sign? if you politicize everything, your reaction to the boycott. >> i think it's silly, it's pernicious, it doesn't get to the solution. what we're trying to make sure it's what happened happened never happens again. to your other guests comments, i'm an nra member, i'm in a related legislator with the nra, i have a concealed weapons permit, i have six children from 17 intersex in your comments are offensive. what i tell my kids all the time, there is no greater

case, district of combaver sus -- colombia versus heller case. we are not talking about guns that the government has like the bad guys otherwise like shooting fish in a barrel, shooting fish in a barrel is what the murderer did because he knew that nobody would shoot him back. neil: the day before yesterday you were talking about who gets the gun that that too is a slippery slope and i can understand privacy concerns and everything else, so what do we do? leaving aside that armed people in these places -- >> that's what we do. the crazy person that wants to kill will find the means to do it and the way to stop him is before he harms anybody. i know that sounds brutal but the crazy people are not going to obey the law, people that want to kill couldn't care less about the law. they have this lust that the rest of us don't understand to kill innocents. to your human nature and your human nature but obviously exists. neil: why do we have a problem here in this country, judge, if you look at per shooting, per person basis, it's wacky in the united st

mcconnell is obviously ready to let somebody like dean heller in nevada say something different than somebody's going to say in alabama and around the country. it let people meet their constituencies. that something democrats are struggling with right now. how far to let people go off from script. then we will find out whether the president is as generous a heart with the members of his own party, but in 435 house districts there are 435 different kind of candidates that are needed to run those races. >> mike: your fantastic halftime report letter you came out with some advice for folks. five points, let's put them on the screen. one, be generous. two be specific. three, be personal without personalizing. four be prepared. five be courageous. can you give us some of your thinking on this? >> all he wanted do today, just a plea, the great mcclellan and i try to bring a patriotic spirit to the note every day. here's the deal. whether you like trump, disliked rope, a republican or democrat, the russians want something out of you and what they want out of you in this case is to demean, d

martha mcsally, dean heller mentioned in those piece. bob corker apparently is trying to mend some fences and figure out whether or not he wants to run for his senate seat again. and this is somebody who, you know, called the white house a day care center and said that the attendant was obviously missing, guy. >> yeah, so i -- on corker i don't think that's going to be a move that works well for him if he decides to reverse his decision to retire. i think his likely opponent in that race, marsha blackburn has a big lead on him and would probably enjoy the support of most tennessee republicans. but to the broader point that you brought up in the "new york times" and some of the critics coming around, when a president wins, and is now the most powerful person on earth, and he is from your party, it behooves you in many cases to find ways to come together and get on his team because in some ways he is a blank slate. i don't think he is an ideological conservative at heart. but, getting his ear and convincing him of things when he is the dec

page by the application and that the initial application and renewal bill to mention that the dnc and heller campaign held on the dossier. democrats memo disputes that and says we are all intelligence reporting by steel did not inform the fbi decision to initiate its counterintelligence investigation in late july 2016. it claims investigators had field reporting in mid-september and more than seven weeks later. it also says they told the court about the political motivation of those hired steel but it doesn't specifically named the dnc or clinton campaign. >> you have a political party in this country actually saying don't worry the american public, it's okay. we do this all the time and we will go dig up dirt on our apartment and get it from russians or from the brits and we will take it to the fbi and open up an investigation into another campaign. reporter: democrats claim it cherry picked facts and was nothing more than an attempt to discredit special counsel robert mueller's investigation. now this memo is out, and adam shift says he hopes their committee will get back to their normal r

jackie rosen i believe the last name who is running the las vegas democrat running against dean heller statewide said that no gun policy would change these. so is not just arborist. you have a completely different perspective on this then someone asked katie. you both hail from completely different places in the country so this isn't just a left issue. it's much deeper than this and i think that it's also part of the problem and trying to derive solutions as well. >> jessica: we have an enormous vast country. >> harris: allow me just for a second because whenever i see a camera choke up like this on a post up i would like to see what's happening on the center of the screen. just to explain to everybody, coral springs, florida, there was a funeral that has happened for one of the students, one of the people who died in the school shooting and students come out to board the buses clearly the situation no coming up with a little bit different than it was a few minutes ago, that might be because the shot is tightening because those buses are expected to pull away in the next 20 minutes or

but since the mcdonnell ruling, the one that made heller applicable to the states, the supreme court has seen about two dozen second amendment cages -- third amendment cases and for them in -- they're leaving that open for the state. what we need for the supreme court is to build out that practical activities around the second amendment, can't go to a -- can i go to a gun range, can i take my boy hunting in texas with an ar to shoot hogs? until that happens, we will have vulcanized rulers. it will be one way in california, one way in texas. we do not have it that way for due process. you have the same rights arrested in texas as you do in california. the first amendment is the same thing. theconsequences of that -- second series of consequences, in my opinion, are more long term. if we as a country can decide 's rights are unfavorable at a particular point in time and limit them, there is not a restraint on the same thing happening 100 years from now, 10 years from now on another right. we have seen that in our history already. when it comes to race, when it comes to gender, and how

the heller decision, the landmark case, the supreme court of off for the states to have the restrictions and mcdonald case as well as the mcdonald case as well, but what they said is you cannot the private someone of the right to the -- to bear arms. >> thank you so much, joining us from kentucky. this is bloomberg. >> the>> it is time for options inside. often -- often the tail end of earnings season, but we still have some coming up. target is one of those set to report create a >> what are analysts looking for? >> -- on a boat to bases, it is a pretty inexpensive stock. earnings next week, we think earnings should be solid. andly, a positive outlook what comes out of this volatility environment in many situations is that it remains elevated to call implied volatility. this, whereon like we have a pretty solid dilation backdrop, that structure fits very nicely. >> this is a -- we tend to be cautious a little bit because yes, you are sure they can cut and pay the price on that event. target, we name like want to utilize that structure specifically. a 62.5 and a sell half foot. level is

. >> well, there is a lot of people that look at one decision mais made, the heller decision overturned a gun ban in the city of washington, d.c. it's a press dent that says gun bans will never be -- >> that's nonsense, anti-tank weapons, why not a tactical nuke, it's a nonsense, the only people who actually have a right to use or have been in possession of automatic and semi automatic weapons are members of our military. that's what they're there for. i grew up in a farm in rural australia. we had lots of wild manimals. my foouts father used a rifle. frankly, we're supposed to have the most dangerous, most poisonous critters in the world in our country st. i don't see how anyone in this country has a legitimate need for one of these pump action machines. >> you are not the only australian that looks at us and says, boy you guy versus a guntualture here. you don't have the same guntualture. some argue the reason we have it in our constitution it was written in response to a revolution. you didn't have that same experience when your constitution was written. >> the british come back, you

heller case. they promoted gun safety laws. now the nra is seen as a power in politics. but that does not mean they're widely popular. this cbs poll shows 46% think the nra has too much influence on politics today. we bring in now adam winkler. he is the author of "gun fight: the battle for the right to bear arms in america." and we have andre brower. let me start here with a tweet from the president. it's a retweet after some questioned his commitment to a few of the pillars that he's calling for in response to what happened in florida. he tweeted this morning, i will be strongly pushing comprehensive background checks with an emphasis momental health and raise age to 21 and stop sale of bump stocks. congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue i hope. i want you to listen to john corn an on one element. >> i think what we ought to fcus on is things that will actually save lives. that's why i think the folks should be on the fix nix bill, it can be signed into law. there is a lot of other ideas out there that people are proposing that i don't think will a

when it comes to heller and mcdonald you've seen the supreme court has weighed in to decide a right that's enshrined in this country. it's something that will work its way through the courts if passed. >> we've seen this president talk about law enforcement and the role it did or didn't play in the wake of this shooting. we heard him talk a lot about mental health. i looked back at a piece of legislation he signed in february 2017, rolling back what the obama administration was key to implement here. how is he able to talk about both at the same time? >> david, there's what the president says in tweets and thers what he does. it's always important to pay attention to what he does. he rolled back that legislation that is directly contradictory to what he has been saying the last week. by the way his budget proposal reduces funding for mental health services in schools. again, there's what he says and what he does. good news here is that the nra and gun lobby is in its last gasp of influence. this time is different. these kids are fired up. it's not just them. it is their parents, their fami

. >> when justice scalia wrote that opinion ten years ago in the heller case, the supreme court said, you know, you could have restrictions on guns that were unusually dangerous or that were in the hands of the wrong people, whether it's the mentally ill who shouldn't have guns or something else. we have those kinds of restrictions all the time. we have them on cars. you have the right to drive a car. they don't ban cars. nobody is calling for that. but we have speed limits and you have to pass a driving test. and they have air bags. these are the kinds of -- >> you have to wear a seat belt. >> even if you don't want to. and that's the kind of restriction that would make guns something that were much less dangerous to society. the kind of weapon of war that we saw in florida and we saw let's not forget in las vegas by somebody who was well over 21, that kind of weapon can be banned constitutionally. the courts have upheld that across the country. and we should not be afraid to admit that as a country that we can't actually protect ourselves and our rights at the same time. >> and the

arrive at different ended of an opinion but both approaching it as originalist and gives the example of heller, the gun control case from 2008 or -- >> host: 2008. >> guest: so, even in that case, the minority decision also took -- he wrote the majority and obviously he took an originalist approach, but the minority opinion also approached it i think not as thoroughly emphatically as onlyist but thank you used -- >> host: the second amendment says a well regulated militia being necessary to security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shat nothing be infringed and justice scalia's opinion goes back to the england and britain and basically says, the right to have a gun was always seen as a sort of central right, and justice stevens says, but look at what the second amendment was about state militias and they sort of go back and forth. think a lot of people thought it was one of those interesting situations where justice scalia's method or approach had sort of won over the court but it didn't actually resolve -- because both of them had a different view about the origi

he also gives the example of heller the dc gun control case from 2008 or 2010. >> host: 2008. >> guest: in the case the minority decision also -- he wrote the majority and obviously he took an originalist approach but minority opinion also approached it, not as thoroughly and emphatically as originalist but also used some of the methods he had been preaching about. >> host: i remember that well. the second amendment says a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed and justice scalia's opinion goes back to england in britain and basically says the right to have a gun was always seen as a central right and justice stevens innocence is yeah, but look at the summit amendment was about state .-ellipsis and so they go back and forth and i think a lot of people thought those interesting situations for justice glia method or approach had one over the court but it didn't resolve because both of them had a different view about the original meaning of that provision. >> guest: my father's argument th

the fed are in heller -- inherently risk-averse am a we know that. they will slow down if they need spiralinancial markets out of control. there's no consensus on the state of the u.s. economy in that's quite a orton. there are so many mixed messages , certainly within the and its. third and most importantly is the fact that the fed have consistently is their inflation target since the crisis and that has led the fed to actively start reconsidering its policy framework. third and most importantly is see all that being discussed. as long as they debate stays on that side of the equation, for us the fed is a redundant factor for the dollar. anna: i read an opinion -- an opinion piece talking about all the noise in banking generally and suggesting that of course the boards will be divided and you just have to tune out all the conflicting views as they have to come to some sort of consensus. on the subject of where rates go in the united states, i have this chart that users of bloomberg can pull up. just underlining how far we have travel in terms of rat

. >> but the supreme court has said that already in heller. it says the second amendment is not an unlimited right. you cannot buy a warehouse of ar-15s if you have mental illness problems. there already is limits to it. what i agree with you about is there is no big goal that everybody can march behind. just to say gun control is not the sexiest thing that is going to get everybody -- >> let me give jill colvin the last word. a lot of people who oppose gun restrictions say, that change in law wouldn't have prevented this. that's their excuse. that wouldn't have prevented las vegas. that wouldn't have prevented this. what is the white house saying behind the scenes about the fact that the public response is just not having that any more? >> well, i think you've seen this both privately and publicly with the fact that the president, somebody who takes not very lightly the fact that he was endorsed by the nra early on, is very good friends with the folks who run the organization, has nonetheless come out against them with this idea of raising fr