antonio for governor. >> brennan: welcome back i'm margaret brennan.ormer cia director robert gates served eight presidents, working on nearly every national security issue that america faces. when we spoke at william and mary friday i asked gates whether he thought north korean leader was serious about dismantling the country's nuclear program. >> i think he's serious about this. i think he sees an opportunity, as did we. i think the president's tough talk and the willingness of the chinese and russians to agree to toughest sanctions we've ever really applied to north korea certainly increased the pressure on the north koreans to come to the table. i think he also feels that he's at a point with his nuclear programnd ballistic missile program that he can at least for some period of time go without testing and test the u.s. administration and see what might happen. i think it's very complicated. they have a nuclear enterprise that is dramatically larger than iran's, miles and miles of tunnels, multiple sites, existing nuclear weapons. so, getting to ge

i'm margaret brennan. it has been a week of legal twists and turns beginning with a shocking leak to the "new york times" of the question that special continental rocket mueller wants to ask president trump. white house attorney ty cobb announced his departure as another emmet flood came on board. but it was rudy guiliani who sent shock waves through washington through series of tv appearances that raised more questions than answers. in a wednesday appearance on sean hannity, guiliani revealed that the president reimbursed $130,000 in hush money that attorney michael cohen paid to stormy daniels at the end of the 2016 election. that payment may violate campaign finance laws. >> that money was not campaign money, sorry, i'm give you a fact now that you don't know. it's not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. >> funneled it through a law firm. the president repaid it. >> he did? >> president didn't know about this? >> he didn't know about the specifics of it as far as i know. but he did know about

>> brennan: it's sunday may 237th on this memorial day tweak end i'm margaret brennan this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs we've got breaking news this morning as it looks like that on again-off again meeting between president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un is back on. there's word that u.s. officials have crossed the border into north korea this morning to meet with officials there. after a tumultuous week of international diplomacy, south korean president made a surprise trip across the border yesterday to pete with kim at the nor korean's leader's request that public show of unity and some candid talk behind the scenes appears to set the june 1th summit back on track. >> there's a lot of goodwill. think people want to see if we can get the meeting and get something done. we've got that done f. we can be successful in the denuclearizationn of the korean peninsula it would be a great thing for north korea would be great thing for south korea. >> the president made those remarks in the oval office where he welcomed home joshua holt just released after two ye

. >> brennan: we begin with kellyanne conway. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, margaret. >> brennan: rudy guiliani said he's not an expert on the facts yet. why is the president authorized him to speak like this? >> the president -- one thing i do want to say to you, margarets the president told me just yesterday that when he said no on air force one last month, he's talking about when the payment occurred. that he was not aware of the payment to ms. daniels when the payment occurred. that is consistent with his tweets from a couple of days ago, president had lot to say about this matter. he says this is a private matter, had nothing to do with campaign funds that there is an nda in full force and effect, he believes that ms. daniels and her lawyer have violated. that may go to arbitration. also repeats that this is a false claim. and he also says that michael cohen had basically discretion to use funds that had nothing do do with the campaign how he saw fit as his attorney at that time. >> brennan: in an interview last ni

that's the american goal that trump. >> brennan:@u.s. no longer beliefs that kim jong-un is holding on to secure his place in power? in other words, you are saying no regime change? >> only time will tell these negotiations will proceed. the president uses language that says, we'll see. still a lot of work to do. the american leadership under president trump has its eyes wide open. we won't be successful, it's possible. we acknowledge that. we've watched this fail before but the model that has been here, we're hopeful that we'll get a fundamentally different outcome. >> brennan: what will this sum it look like. >> i don't know. we're working on details that the actual blocking and tackling. we've been working on them for weeks. we'll have teams working on them in the days and weeks ahead. we've got 30 days i guess it is. there will be great deal of work done between our two countries between now and then to set the stage for what we hope will be very successful visit in singapore between our two leaders. >> brennan: still figuring out th

>> we'll see. >> brennan: no specific agreement yet?> what you're getting here is, the negotiations are proceeding very well. we're on the same page. too early for exact, precise details. maybe i got ahead of the curve but the number 200 billion deficit reduction which is something that president likes has been around by all the people on both sides. but it's too soon to lock that in. i just think the direction here is the key. i just want to add, if we can get success here, if china opens up, if we move to much more balanced fair trading this is going to be terrific for the american economy. we're the most competitive economy in the world right now. after the tax reduction, after the regulatory roll back. >> brennan: but the risk of still putting tariffs on that could hurt agricultural exports. >> i beg your pardon? >> brennan: the risk of putting tariffs on that could hurt agricultural exports for this country is that still something american farmers need to worry about? >> look, they need to keep an eye on that, absolutely. but let m

john brennan will be a strong leader. while many nominees have classified backgrounds, you are unique. were you an advocate for destroying the tapes? did you oversee the enhanced interrogation of al nashiri which included the use of the water board as reported? >> laura: what was to that first one? why do the democrats who supported brennan now oppose gina haspel? what's changed. very confusing. i will tell you what's changed, donald trump is now president. and the democrats, he must be stopped at all cost. and he must be denied the personnel to help him advance his agenda. you see, it's not a tale of two confirmations. it's a tale of the two faces of the democratic party. one face says it supports a robust national security and the other will do whatever it takeso to stop trump and then regain power. and that's the angle.le joining us for reaction from boston is jeff beatty, a retired officer who worked as a counter terror official. in idaho, mike baker is with us. and with me here in washington is rosa brooks, a former

brennan saying senator mcconnell, if mr. trump continues along this disastrous path, you'll will bear major responsibility to the harm for our democracy. by the way, we're a republic. you do a disservice if you continue to enable mr. trump's self-serving actions. brennan is up to his eyeballs in all of this. i'm certain that will be exposed. as we have been saying on this program, he's been lying about his involvement with this clinton bought and paid for dossier for months and he lied in front of congress. as for james clapper, he's ensnared in the dossier scandal. and clapper, just like yates and brennan, let's go after the president and attack him. >> it's a very disturbing assault on the independence of the department of justice. when the president -- this president or any president tries to use the department of justice as a private investigatory is not good for the government. it's about what the russians were doing. were they attempting to infiltrate the concern? that was the concern. in my belief that's what the focu

brennan himself. he wrote an op-ed. he was not a nominee for judge then saying johnson's right to hold the seat open should be respected. now he's here on the floor with the blue slip being ignored for the first time since i've been here. that's since 1998. how is senator baldwin's right to consult on judges for her state any less important than senator johnson's? it's mind-bending hypocrisy. it's an appalling double standard. and it's another erosion of minority rights and the tradition of comity that i know so many of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle wish played a greater role here in the senate. furthermore, there's been a -- senator baldwin has talked about -- there's always been a bipartisan commission recommending judges in wisconsin. and there were several nominees who got through that bipartisan commission. you need both democratic and republican support to get through that commission, as i understand it. they were ignored by the white house and here senator -- judge brennan or mr. brennan, a hard right

brennan's nomination. this comes as only the latest distinction in a career marked by truly impressive legal accomplishments. in both public service and private practice, this graduate of notre dame and northwestern law school has developed a represent fiergs a keen legal mind and unwavering commitment to the rule of law. according to current and former peers on the milwaukee county circuit court, mr. brennan has, quote, the mind, heart, and soul of a great jurist and a keen understanding of the legal issues and sophisticated and complex litigation. like judge engelhardt mr. brennan has my full support and i encourage my colleagues to vote to confirm another fine nominee this week. now, on another -- on a final matter, it seems that every day it brings another piece of good news for middle-class workers and families, and like clock work, another desperate attempt by my democratic colleagues to convince everyone that this growing tide of new prosperity is somehow a bad thing. in the last few weeks alone the

brennan who supports her nomination. >> senator will suspend. >> john brennan supports her nomination. >> appreciate that, mr. chairman. let me also say this. i know this is something that is a different experience for you. you have led your life serving our country in the shadows. but should you be confirmed in this position, you're going to have a whole different set of responsibilities that candidly i understand that perhaps nothing in your career has fully prepared you for. you have to not only earn our trust, where we have more exposure to your records and classified information, but you have to earn the trust of other members who are not on this panel and folks in the house who won't even consider this. you also, i think, have to earn the trust of the american public. so three brief points i want to make. i appreciate the fact and the support you have from the agency's work force and the fact that your confirmation will be the first time in 54 years an operations officer would be confirmed to be director. and i also understand what are normal procedures on declassification, but

also it's a we have all of theseta deep state actors, john brennan, sally yates, all melting down over these spy revelations. so it has predation, they are predictably looking lashing out president trump. sara carter is reporting that the fisa memos could very well hold the key to the obama fbi trump surveillance. we have a lot to go. stay with us for the hour. this is an important breaking news opening monologue. brand-new tonight, after a meeting with trump, the fbi director christopher wray, rod rosenstein, otherro top intel officials, the white house is saying president trump and the department of justicet are now inspector general to investigate the obama administration and this playing dated on the trump campaign. the white house is also revealing tonight that chief of staff john kelly, general kelly, is setting up a meeting for congress so they will see the documents that constitutionally they have been asking for and the doj has been obstructing and stonewalling. really?t i'll believe it when i see those documents. this is the same material that rod rosenstein has refused to tu

brennan possesses the mind, heart, and soul of a great jurist. not too surprising then, the american bar association has awarded mr. brennan its highest rating unanimously well qualified. i look forward to voting to confirm mr. brennan later today and later we'll be voting to advance two more circuit court nominees, joel carson and john nalbandian. each possess their own set of sterling qualifications. each come recommended widely by those who work closely with them and each deserve to be confirmed by this body and take their place on the federal bench. our friends across the aisle aren't making it easy, but despite the historic obstruction, this senate will do what it takes to process and to confirm the president's fine nominees for these important posts. on one final matter, later today president trump is visiting the great state of indiana, he is joining hoosiers to celebrate the new jobs that republicans are delivering to indiana and all over the country. after years of democratic policies that made life harder for job creators, the united st

trump swiped back on twitter writing john brennan is panicking he has disgraced himself disgraced the country he has disgraced the entire intelligence community the one man who is largely responsible for the destruction of american fate in the intelligence community, and in some people the top of the fbi. >> brennan started this buyer debacle about president trump we know brennan had detailed knowledge of the phony dossier knows about dossier denies knowledge of the dossier breached gang ooh briefed

brennan. on other side of this circle of part of loop, we have the september 2, 2016, text-message from lisa page to mr. strzok saying, potus wants to know everything we're doing. andy mccabe visiting white house, and briefing lisa monaco, i look forward to president obama's deposition on this matter. this has to be pressed as an investigation, not a review. i don't think that inspector general is up to it. i would rather see an actual u.s. attorney within justice department suing it as a criminal matter. lou: i am glad you did note sayt say, a second special counsel. >> i do not. lou: i think that american people have had a belly full of this approach, creating a super government agency that dominates day, schedule and agenda of the president of united states this is enough. >> no. lou: we're paying po work to work for american people. >> a lot of experienced u.s. attorneys who could very well conduct an investigation went normal bounds of a justice department, we don't need another carnival

i want to stay focused on john brennan because john brennan back to march 21st of this year was throwingut all sorts of theories to her at the. let's watch. >> i think is the freight of the president of russia. >>? >> the russians may have something on him personally that they could always roll up and make his life more difficult. >> laura: i heard that, they may have something on trump that they may roll out in the future. how does that make -- how does that make the intel community look good when brennan is on tv speculating that one of our adversaries has information on him when that dossier has been debunked and phony and paid for by hillary clinton? i find that -- watching that again today was outrageous. >> it is outrageous. here you have -- he explained to his base. he's no longer a government official. he has a political base and that's what he's planning to. and i hate to say it, but we could speculate on this, those are the words of a word i used last week with you of a propagandist. when you are out there using innuendo and speculation you are just trying to cast a net out the

trump. >> i think former director brennan's remarks are silly on their face. we are going to enter into a set of discussions with two nations doing their best to achieve outcomes for their own people that are consistent with their objectives and goals. >> martha: john brennan statement that the president was duped into this meeting with kim jong un. >> that's a very irresponsible, it's not a rational statement for several reasons. you see a number of people from across the aisle and as idriss remarked earlier, in the polls, democrats, women, college educated voters that we are continually told don't support the president is much, they very much support taking this action with respect to north korea. if you look at the polling, people who are older, 50 plus at 55 plus, they certainly do because they lived through decades of war. they've grown up only knowing war between north korea and south korea. i would say that mr. brennan and others who started in the administration before ours should remember that old saying that politics stops at the water's edge. these

brennan was also the superior to gina haspel. now president trump's nominee to become cia director. >> were you involved in any way in the creation of the enhanced interrogation program? >> senator, i was not, and i was not writing the program until about a year into its existence. >> laura: and get to learn about the enhanced interrogation at about the same time? as gina haspel? congress. yes. fast forward to today. nancy pelosi and her fellow democrats want to raise a big fuss and pretend that they hold the moral high ground against torture? where were her objections or any of their objections when they were being briefed on these techniques? instead, democrats and republicans like mccain and paul are using haspel's involvement in the program to try to block her confirmation as cia director. boy, what a difference four years makes. >> mr. brennan is without a doubt qualified for this position. people who have worked closely with him regularly cite his work ethic, his integrity, and his determination. john brennan, by all accoun

two were sent but instead brennan was sent up who couldn't get through the panel. so this is so wrong. this goes beyond what we have seen done before. when leader mcconnell changed the rules on the supreme court which we didn't, many on the other side, i understand, said that's tit-for-tat because democrats changed the rules on the lower courts. but the blue slip tradition has always been obeyed. we didn't change that. we could have. we could have stuffed through our nominees with no republican input. we didn't. and so i would hope for the sake of comity, that one or two of my republican colleagues would stand up and vote against mr. brennan's nomination, not because of his beliefs which they may agree with for all i know, but for the sake of the senate, the grand tradition of the senate, for the rights afforded to every senator to consult on judges from their states, minority or majority, and for most of all, the traditions that have held this body together for more than two centuries and separated it from the more partisan chamber on the other end of the capitol.

mccan had to say about mike brennan on first working with mike brennan. quote, key personnel in our office and i became impressed with mr. brennan's high energy, his mastery of the law, his integrity and his good judgment. as an assistant attorney general, as an assistant district attorney he was assigned to some very challenging cases. mr. brennan continued to exhibit those qualities of scholarship, integrity and judgment which had initially earned him our respect. on brennan's work as counsel for wisconsin's truth in sentencing committee, mr. mccann said, mr. brennan provided appropriate materials to the committee and with his gracious manner moved the committee through its very substantial workload so closely that the contentious dispute i and others expected single polydid not occur. -- simply did not occur. mccan whose office had lawyers before judges every day said he was an excellent judge in all regards, properly respectful of lawyers, victims, witnesses and the rights of defendants. his courtroom was a model of judicial decorum. in jury trials an

brennan wrote back, charge him anyway, and make defend himself.waited until i went bankrupt and then dropped the charges. again, that's what they do. it's a way of exerting pressure that you can't resist. they have unlimited resources and you don't. >> we don't have time to get into the details your case. it's easily available online. i followed it because i'm a journalist. i wish more journalists reported you. i think you were shafted. >> thank you. >> i hope you get pardoned, because you deserve it. >> thank you. this president, more than any other president, sees injustice. this president is unique. most presidents when they give pardons it's during a lame duck period after an election. this president pardons people when he sees an injustice. another president did that, and that was abraham lincoln, he pardoned people throughout his entire administration. i'm confident if i can get in front of president trump, he'll see it's an injustice. >> it's an injustice. the fact brennan was behind it is shocking. >> thank you. >> democrats planning to im

brennan: very unfortunately i think mr. trump has been fueling polarization and partisanship in this country. and that is very much, i think, undermining what this country really is all about and what it needs to do in the future to confront these challenges oversees, as well as domestically. and we really do need to have the people who are in either elected positions or others, appointed positions, be able to speak openly, honestly and candidly. both to him, as well as to the american people. and stop apologizing, or making excuses, for really bad behavior. for unethical behavior. for things that lisa mentioned before, just breaking norms left and right. what signal is that sending to the young children of this country? what signal is it sending to the world? we need people like john mccain and jeff flake and others who have had the i think intestinal fortitude to speak out. but too many of those, i think, and speaking of myself, i'm not a republican or development i have friends and enemies on both sides of the aisle. and

a lot of these stories seem to lead back to this guy, john brennan.ld think as the former head of the cia, he is someone you would be able to trust, but he seems not only a liar, but an inept one. am i misreading this?st >> we have a problem with multiple heads of intelligence agencies, and that does includee brennan, who has a history of lying, specifically about spying on american citizens.de it's difficult to hold him, take him seriously but we've also had problems with falsehoods being said also by james clapper, who gave inconsistent testimony about his leaking to the media. and we've also had problems with james comey himself, whether he understands what a leak is anded how he has been involved in it. but one of things that's interesting is clapper and comey have been so much a part of this story and we have seen their names a great deal, but brennan has been able to kind of stay out of the limelight until recently where people are starting to piece together just how integral he was to the entire russian narrative. so for instance --ow >> tucker

obviously he is focusing on john brennan specifically. but gina haspel has been high-ranking through these last years. he seems to still trust her. but i know senator rand paul for example, has been suggesting that he shouldn't trust her. >> that's right. it's hard to really divine because it's operating on parallel tracks. . on the one hand you talk to people who say the president is frustrated furious and fixated on this issue, this conspiracy theory, really, that the fbi planted a spy in his campaign and he has lost all faith in the intelligence agencies. here again he is well behind gina haspel as his new cia director. >> geoff bennett at the white house, thanks very much. keep us updated. we will be happy to come back if you get more news or information out of the meeting. >> reporter: the justice department says its inspector general is looking into the president's claims about the informant as the tension between president trump and the intelligence community grows. hours after trump's tweet the justice department released a statem

during the course of that, his life intersected with robert mueller and john brennan, among others.e joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. >> thanks a lot for having me. >> tucker: a lot has been written about your case. what about your time in prison. not much has been written about your intersection with two man in the news now, brennan with whom you worked for many years, and robert mueller. tellte us what you learned. >> robert mueller, i had a more recent encounter with, and that was when he created the john kerry task force at the justice department. he was the head of the fbi at the time. i had no idea that i was under investigation. when i went public on the cia's torture program in late 2007, the bush administration investigated me and determined e had not committed a crime. just a few weeks later, john the number two at the national security council, h and he asked the justice department, eric holder, to secretly reopen the case against me. that went to robert mueller. he created this john kiriakou task force -- >> tucker: you are telling me that john brennan, a do

. >> someone like sally yates and brennan and comey and others destroyed the rule of law in the obama administration. they besmirched it. >> could this blow the lid off of an obama administration scheme? doctors thought he would never walk again after being paralyzed on the football field but this college grad is defined the odds to get his diploma. "fox and friends first" starts now. >> coming gone in new york city, wherever you are, thank you for joining us on tuesday morning. let's get to our top story, a fox news alert, a massive manhunt intensifying after a police officer is killed in the line of duty. baltimore police looking for several suspects considered armed and dangerous. the female officer responded to a burglary when witnesses reported hearing a pop and watching her get run over by a jeep, and released body camera will hopefully determine how she died. this marks the 26th officer killed on the job this year. >> something we have never seen before, police officers assaulted, a number of officers who died in the line of duty is of this year, this is a bad time for united s

coming up, a new report leading to some questions for former cia director john brennan. >> we wanted to make sure that we handled this matter appropriately, but also delicately because we were in the midst of a presidential campaign. >> martha: what is that about? there's a new report tonight from "the new york times" that claims that the fbi was pursuing the secret investigation into russian election interference and president trump's campaign, 100 days before election day and it was called cross fire hurricane. also coming up, believe it or not, the five way race to win back the republican primary in georgia is already looking wilder than what we saw in west virginia. >> i've got a big truck just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself. yeah, i just said that. do not mistake serenity for weakness. do not misjudge quiet tranquility with the power of 335 turbo-charged horses the lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350 and a quiet interior from which to admire them. the lincoln spring sales event is here. for a limited time get 0% apr on the li

the fbi and the senior doj officials and john brennan and james clapper and james comey set up out on to frame donald trump and the people in his campaign. they used all sorts of means and methods to do that. including the use of an agent provocateur who is a leech trump campaign on the soil of a a foreign country, and as a result of interviews on in a number of people on the campaign, asking them, who approached you, a person that you never knew, and started asking questions about foreign policy and seeing if they could "help the campaign." it is now known who that agentov provocateur was that the fbi used and john brennan used and james clapper and tonight, there is a flurry of concern in washington, and the law enforcement intelligence community, that his name will come out. >> sean: i think we already know. but i'll put that aside for a minute. rudy giuliani saying what we already know is policy and truth and fact. oh, the special counsel will not invite trump, and come out with your stupid report, and donald trump jr., it is so amazing, all ofg the exchanges talk about what a was

are the people in the cia listening to a brennan is telling them to do.they undermining the presidency? at a minimum, why he thought he could take a stick and poke his nose there is hard to comprehend. >> both brennan and power have acknowledged that extremely controversial practice of on masking names of citizens including political enemies captured during intelligence, how almost daily during the 2016 election. >> the astonishing thing, to go to a slightly different subject on the hillary e-mail, i prove during the campaign that whom vomiting had access but she was sending them to her yahoo.com account and some release by judicial wash that they had sensitive information and could have been picked up by anybody who she gave durst used her name and the password. president obama had a pseudonym e-mail address that he used to communicated over hillary's private e-mails server while she was secretary of state and out of the country. i guess when they were looking at how they were going to cast come a statement which was rewritten by mccabe and officials in

he obviously demonstrated he speaks arabic and john brennan made it a policy within the cia which was carried out also in the justice department that for instance, there were a great number more muslims brought into the administration and the idea of radical islamic terrorism was ruled out. it was more of an internationalist view. it was a view towards a kind of policy dude you see in the european union. that you would see in the international part of justice like the hague, the united nations and i think these policy walks in the position of power in the cia and justice as well as in the irs, we saw as well and a determination that conservatives were equivalent to white supremacists and were to be demeaned and not listen to because the future was this new world order in which we would go to a globalism, a nationalism beyond theunited states of america . president obama was fond of thinking beyond america, what's the world beyond america? well, for conservatives who are patriots, and i think again, one of the startling points of my book handling that the state is the recognition that

jonathan brennan. paul sperry reportedly threatened the president and is now being exposed by a liar. last may the former cia director testified under oath that the dossier didn't factor into the intelligence community's assessment of russia election meddling. we have the tape to prove it. take a look. >> you know in the bureau relied on the steele dossier as part of any court filings? applications, petitions, pleadings? >> i have no awareness. >> did the cia rely on it? >> no. >> why not? >> because we -- it wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. it was not in any way used as a basis for the intelligence community assessment that was done. it was not. >> sean: mike rogers and james clapper are contradicting brennan and saying that yes, the dossier did play a role in to what american intelligence agencies concluded. just like the nunes memo and just like the grassley grand memo. on top of all of that, brennan hand picked peter strzok to help work on this report. the same guy

the testimony of then nominee of john brennan -- >> i'm john king. we're going to leave this hearing live to go straight over to the white house to the president of the united states. let's listen. >> within three days. we're just working arrangements. >> do you deserve the nobel prize? >> everyone thinks so, but i would never say it. this is a victory for the world. that's what we're talking about. that's the only prize i want. [ inaudible question ] >> everything can be scuttled, everything can be scuttled. a lot of things can happen. a lot of good things can happen, a lot of bad things can happen. i believe that both sides will negotiate a deal. i think it's going to be a very successful deal. i think we have a really good shot and making it successful. but lots of things could happen. of course, you'll be the first to know if it does. but we have a very good chance to make a good deal for the world. thank you very much. [ inaudible ] >> iran will find out. they're going to find out. i don't think they should do that. i would suggest iran not to s

president obama's former director john brennan calls her a well-respected professional. general michael hayden said this, her only goal is to live out the agency's mission. she's a wonderful choice. and in a letter to her colleagues on the intelligence committee, a bipartisan group of 53 former national security leaders says, her qualifications match or exceeds those of those candidates put forward in the 70 year history of the agency. she is perfectly matched for the challenges that face our country. as was said, our nation must be prepared for a new era of competition between powerful nations. we continue to prosecute the campaign against terrorists, but a great power competition is now the primary focus of u.s. national security. while ms. haspel is the perfect candidate to lead the central intelligence agency through these challenges, her experience spans the global war on terror. her experience of gathering foreign intelligence in an era of -- hard-won expertise in counterterrorism and analysis many her resume could hardly be better tailored for the specific challen

other people in the cia listening to it brennan is telling them to do.they undermining the presidency? these are legitimate questions. why did john brennan think he could take a stick and poke his nose at the bear is hard for me to comprehend. >> host: they have both acknowledged the controversy of on masking names of u.s. citizens including political enemies captured during intelligence. it's at an astonishing rate of almost daily during the 2016 election. >> so to go to a slightly different subject in the hillary e-mail, i could prove during the campaign not only that whom vomiting had access to the her.com account.asending them some of them had sensitive information they could have been picked up by anybody she gave her so of password. then president obama had a pseudonym e-mail address that was not barack obama. he is that to communicate over hillary's private server when she was out of state. so i guess when they were working at how to cast comey statement which was rewritten by mckay and other officials in the fbi, they would have had to possibly i

played caller ok now john brennan. he was on the routing for all the torture memos ok he publicly defended kid and while we say rendering kidnapping people off the streets of europe and sending them to the egypt since he was fully cognisant of thing now with respect to gina house bill we know she was actually supervising the torture at that base in thailand and when. senator ron wyden asked her at the hearing just a week ago were you there supervising the top he said the waterboarding of of all machinery she said. senator that's that's classified. and he was out of town out of town so you know and he should have what he would have asked those who will classified that she would have to say senator i did i check classified my own incriminating incriminating evidence and so we'll have to go and close section this afternoon so i mean now this is a public airing that means the idea is to tell the american people who this person is and they were prior to finding out who she was because she classified the incriminating eviden

director john brennan. he was confirmed under president obama and he served there. senators show that you can put the country above politics. gina haspel is a competent, experienced and highly qualified intelligence professional. ask her tough questions. listen to her answers. and then decide but don't penalize her for previous policy decisions or just because trump picked her." your thoughts? >> i couldn't agree more. there is a blatant double standard going on here. senator cornyn talked about it and cotton as well. john brennan was the policy-maker at the time of what is deemed as the controversial or the senator warner talking about the interrogateive tactics and he got a pass by senator warner himself. so people who are condemning haspel here are the ones who confirmed brennan who had more decision-making role. what she was doing had been constitutionally evaluated by the attorney and she was following orders. >> i expect she will get a vote in the committee and then on the senate floor. a lot of the confirmations are taking too long if you sit at the white hou

brennan a clown.d he also said that you are just political appointees and that is where the heart of the investigations come from. >> well, in the space of a week i have progressed from being the dumbest foreign intelligence officer on the planet according to president trump and now a clown. it's current progression at its best. just more in the narrative here. >> let's talk about the specifics, though. the idea of the president's legal team wanting to get a briefing from the fbi about this confidential source. good idea? >> no. i mean, i don't think this is a good idea at all anymore than it was a good idea to have the president's attorney show up unannounced, i guess, for the gang of eight briefing. i was recalling what i heard about that. my last gang of eight briefing when we briefed before we flew up to new york to brief -- >> the leadership in congress. >> to include the chair and ranking members of each of the intelligence oversight committees. trying to imagine what it would have been like if

>> that's correct. >> was john brennan a member of the senior intelligence service and the executive director and a senior manager in your opinion at the time? >> senator, i believe mr. brennan was the deputy of the agency at the time. >> and you'd consider that a senior manager position? >> i believe it's a number four position. >> for john brennan who was confirmed to be the cia director by the following members of this committee. warner, feinstein, heinrich, collins, burr, manchin, senator widen and senator rubio. let's turn to the question about the tapes that were destroyed in 2005. did any lawyer at any time in any organization of the federal government say there was a legal prohibition to destroy the tapes? >> senator, they did not. they were consistent that there was no legal requirement to preserve the tape because of the written record. >> it's your testimony that there is a written record that fully documents whatever may or may not have happened? >> senator, yes. and there were two reviews done of the written record by the office of general counsel and the officer of the

brennan seems to be completely disgraced.been contradicted even by former obama intel chiefs. what gives? >> there are misstatements that you make which are intimate misstatements, and other stuff that you say which is not only wrong but like so galactic we stupidly wrong it's hard to explain. so let's think about the intelligent assessment is january 4th 2017. by the time they get it, by the time they do it in october of 2016, the month before, they have used a dossier to go to the fisa court to get warrants. so why on earth if you are going to go to the fisa court and go through all the hoops that you have to do to get approval of the fisa warrant, go to a federal judge, swear out an application, relying on it and then for the predictive purposes of an intelligence assessment you are not going to use it? who would believe that? >> laura: is brennan lying? >> he certainly not telling the truth. he certainly not being accurate. what's going on in his brain, i don't know. this just seems to me -- it's like the equivalent of sa

>> john brennan is panicking, steve. john brennan has disgraced himself.try and intelligence community. is he a one man largely responsible for the destruction of american's faith in the intelligence community and in some people at the top of the fbi. steve, breen than started this entire debacle with trump. we know brennan had detailed knowledge of the does yea. i will walk you through this real slow. he had knowledge of the dossier. he denies knowledge of the dossier. he briefed gang of 8 on the hill about the dossier. which they then used to demand the fbi start an investigation on trump. it is that simple. this guy is the genesis of this whole debacle. steve: who told him to do it? who told him to start it? >> we think, beared on some of my investigation and for the book we are putting together on this he just didn't like donald trump. got information through people involved with british intelligence. they were basically using unofficial channels, steve, to launder information like you would launder money because if they put it through official channel