leslie: that came from chuck lorre, who worked on "two and a half men," created that show and came tos with that idea, and we put it on the air, and it's been a success ever since. david: let's talk about the evening news shows. when i was growing up, when you were growing up, people would watch 15 minutes of evening news, then it went to 30 minutes. but now people have so many news sources, do that many people watch the evening news shows? are they still as relevant as they were? leslie: the three network evening news combined are watched still by 23 million, 24 million a night. that's not nearly what it used to be when walter cronkite and huntley and brinkley were doing it, where it was the only source of news. because, you know, what you say is absolutely valid. people are getting their news all day long, so i think the 6:30 news now sort of gives you further insight into the news as opposed to just reporting the news. and i think they do well. they do better in times of crises. obviously during the hurricanes, people want to see what's going on. but now with the advent of these bi