that was jared kushner, donald trump's son-in-law, sfr adviser from the white house. that was him downplaying russia's attack on our democracy, describing it as just a couple of facebook ad. this line coming after robert mueller's report revealed in breathtaking detail the scope and extent of years long russian assault which the report describes like this. quote, the russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. by the end of the 2016 u.s. election, russia's disinformation organization had the ability to reach millions of u.s. persons through their social media accounts. according to the report as part of its effort, russia hacked dozens of computers and stole hundreds of gigabytes of data from democrats. the report is also careful to point out that the mueller doesn't establish criminal conspiracy. russia and trump campaign shared a common goal. special counsel investigation uncovered 19 trump aides who had contact with russians including jared kushner during the campaign. a whole plot more going on here, jared, t

i want you to listen to jared kushner and get your response. here it is. >> you were instrumental in the president's run in 2016. what are you seeing in this democratic field? any interesting characters, some more than others you'd like to run against? >> the president's going to have a fabulous campaign. i think he's got the right policies, and i think he's got the country on the right track. and i think a lot of different policies i see, a lot of these democrats advocating for or offering i don't think that's where the country is. >> socialism? >> i don't think that's where the country is. >> okay, give it to us, april. is that team trump's message? >> that's team trump's message. but just today with prison reform jared kushner and the president were in the room together. the president was giving jared all sorts of praise for this prison reform issue, the first step act. now they're looking to the second step. and they were saying it was bipartisan. they kept talking about bipartisanship with this and the broad range of people that were in th

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let's start with what jared kushner said today. first of all, it was just a couple of facebook alds, and secondly the mueller investigation was actually the worst thing that happened to america. >> well, good questions, lawrence. glad to be here. first of all, i think it's sad that somebody that close to the president of the united states is supposed to be one of his trusted advisers cannot see the threat the intelligence and counter intelligence operations pose to russia. and secondly i think the bob mueller investigation and all the men and women who worked with him have allowed us to see a very clear picture how this white house is run. and i think we've pushed some answers back to the congress. >> if the time 100 had invited the russian ambassador today to speak, would he have said anything different than what jared kushner said? wouldn't they say, wem, it's just a couple of facebook ads or even if they wouldn't adimate to that, it's been harmful for america? >> i think one of the things people need to understand is when you ta

i'm asking as i was listening to jared kushner there, what is the president for? i think he's framed his own immigration debate and what he's against. he doesn't necessarily talk about what he's for, when it comes to immigration, except for the fact that he just wants to keep people out of this country. why is jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, involving himself in immigration abate that experts can not even settle on. he's obviously very ep trenntre in the middle east process. wanting to come up with a plan there. not necessarily doing it successfully there. and now this move to want to talk and come up with an agreement on immigration. it's perplexing torsion say t i least. >> yeah, obviously, jared is someone who has identified with a slightly less hard line view within the house. people like myself who report on the white house knows that he is the one that tries to suggest that the president should appeal beyond the red cap-wearing maga base. the immigration as you point out, yasmin, is something that the president has gone full steam toward that base

i want to unpack some of what jared kushner had to say. hallie, to hear him say it, it was an untraditional campaign. that explains some of the reasons for this meeting that he said he would have forgotten about about russia and building trump tower had it not been for the way the media went crazy over it. he was asked a key question, why not say russia, we don't need your help, we don't court your help. and rudy guiliani in some ways answered that question a few days ago. your take on this rare interview with jared kushner. >> yeah, a couple of pieces to this. we have to say it again, it is notable to hear from him in a public setting. he's talking with a journalist who i see often, brian bennett, who opened up with the questions on the mueller report. remarkably, he believes that the ensuing investigations that stemmed from the russian interference investigation were more harmful to the country than the initial russian interference himself which he described as a few took ads. that is not an accurate assessment or understanding of what t

. >> shepard: jared kushner's diminishment of russian interference is deceptive. from the mueller report we now know, russians made contact with multiple members of the trump campaign, including jared kushner and attempting to promote russian objectives. they received campaign polling data from the trump team and discussed business deals and policy goals and getting dirt on hillary clinton with the now president's son and others. they conducted cyber espionage, stealing e-mails and distributing them to help candidate trump and hurt trump's opponent. they sent russian operatives in america in person to learn the landscape and sow division in america. that i broke into state and local election computers and invaded our nation in the cyber and physical worlds. the united states indicted 26 russian nationals and three russian companies and the mueller report make crystal clear and all u.s. intelligence agencies concur the russians are still trying to thing our nation, interfere in or affairs and influence our elections. special counsel prosecutors interviewed jared ku

i think that the danger that jared kushner entered into -- i understand the frustration that jared and the trump administration has with this whole russia investigation, the fact that, you know, there really was no there there when it came to trump and any kind of working with the russians, but you have to separate russian interference with the issue of trump and the trump campaign working with or coordinating with the russians. and to blow off the one i think is appropriate because it certainly was no evidence of that. but to blow off the interference and just sort of make light of the interference i think was not a wise thing for jared to do. i think you can make fun of the travesty, in my opinion, that has taken place over the last two years of investigating this president because of some potential, you know, wrongdoing when there wasn't one, but you don't make fun or you don't take lightly a foreign government trying to influence our election. >> so, this is right, because here's the thing -- the special counsel's report is not actually the entire story when it comes to the nationa

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do you pose a grave national security concern to the country, jared kushner? >> anymore the white house. i work with phenomenal people. the last two years, the president has done a phenomenal job identifying the national security priorities. i hope i played a good part in pushing those objectives forward. because of the president's leadership, the world is safer today. >> laura: you get the sense that the democrats keep moving the goal posts? it strikes me as interesting as this comes out today as mueller fizzles. >> what i learned, there's people in america care about and what people in the media and washington care about. >> laura: i read on what cnn was saying about it after it passed. it was like they couldn't believe that donald trump would do something that would happen disadvantaged people, people that made big mistakes, criminal mistakes, and it's almost like they didn't want to believe it could have happened. does that disapoint you? even when something that should be bipartisan is still viewed in a negative light? odd. >> when he was approached with

but jared kushner is not exactly a neutral observer here. he is someone who is not just a senior member of the campaign, but is mentioned in great number of times in the mueller report in part of course for participating in the infamous trump tower meept meeting where he at a minimum went into receptive to the house with russians and they didn't act on it because the russians didn't come forward with the damaging information about hillary clinton they promised. >> david, what do you think? >> there was no finding in the report of a conspiracy to defraud the united states. you would expect jared kushner and others until the administration to tout that, to say, look there was no crime committed or as the president said, no collusion. but to spin these facts their own way, that -- the face -- of what was going on on facebook was fine and that the mueller report or the mueller investigation itself was more damaging to the country is just completely mischaracterizing what was an orderly process of justice in their own justice department by their

new today, jared kushner goes to bat for his father-in-law. and vladimir putin all but dismissing russian attempts to upend the u.s. presidential election. the former veep finally taking the leap, breaking today. cnn learning when joe biden will announce his presidential bid with 19 other democrats and president trump waiting to mix it up with him. plus, president trump set to visit the uk as a guest of the queen, now if only he could find a place to stay. >>> welcome to "the lead." i'm brianna keeler in for jake today. we begin with our politics lead. white house senior adviser and presidential son-in-law jared kushner downplaying russian interference in the u.s. election, suggesting it was just a couple of facebook ads, and the u.s. investigation into that russian operation was worse for the country than what the russians did. special counsel robert mueller detailed in his report a massive multi-pronged operation by the russian government to undermine and sow discord in the u.s. political system, in a, quote, sweeping and systemic fashion. k

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have jared fix it. his son-in-law jared kushner. in addition to middle east peace, the opioid crisis, is now crafting an immigration compromise. and he thinks he can find common ground between both parties and his father-in-law the president. >> i've had both steven miller and kevin hassett who runs the cea involved. i think they both agree with what this is. i say if i can get them to agree on an immigration plan, then middle east peace will be easy by comparison. >> right then. joining me now correspondent jacob soboroff and correspondents. i would like to start with you about the political realities of doing all of this. jared kushner makes immigration reform sound easy. would you say that's the case? >> it's certainly not easy. we know that from the last 13 or 14 years. every immigration reform effort has had a sad ending, including the one that we led in the last congress to try to get something done. it will not be easy. the only thing that gives me about this much hope is that jared kushner is or was the architect of one of t

we're told jared kushner and ivanka trump were on the list. this as the house judiciary committee chairman is set to authorize a subpoena in the democrats' battle to obtain the full unredacted report from special counsel robert mueller. this hour, i'll talk with a top democrat on the senate foreign relations committee, bob menendez. and our correspondents and analysts are also standing by. first, let's go to our national security correspondent, alex marquardt. what are you learning? >> this wheistleblower we're talking about from the white house, her name is tricia newbold. she's someone i've been speaking with for several months now as she's been sounding the alarm about security clearances that have been forced through. now in a new report, she details how she compiled a list of 35 individuals whose security clearances were denied but then overturned. among them, another source tells me, ivanka trump and jared kushner. a white house whistleblower is alleging the trump administration's handling of security clearances is threatening u.s. natio

so miss newbold is giving us some more reasons why jared kushner was denied. what veelse have you learned? >> miss newbold testified last weekend for hours before the house oversight committee, and she described in some detail the pressure that she felt under and the extent of the denials that she and a colleague in the security clearance processing office had issued, for individuals she described in the documents that were first released as white house official 1, white house official 2, and white house official 3, as you just mentioned. we now know that white house official 1 was jared kushner and that she had expressed multiple reasons for concern about kushner, but her recommended denial of his security clearance was overruled by her superior in that office. >> and kelly, what does the white house say? >> reporter: well, they refuse to really talk about the security clearance process. jared kushner himself was interviewed and he said that he's been accused of a number of things that turned out to be false, but he did not directly answer this. i happened to

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author of kushner inc. the incredible story of jared kushner and ivanka trump. tell us how you really feel. >> i think what you saw this morning was a master class. he is a plausible liar. this is what makes him so dapgs. you listen to what he says and it is terrifying, right? >> what did you think of, he is still on the talking points of undermining russian interference. what does that tell you about the whoa kush enterprise that you've reported on? in fairness, they have a good argument. russia did a bad thing and mueller found trump folks didn't help. why is not he saying that? >> i think what is so interesting, there are echoes what giuliani jue sarudolph giu sunday. dismissing it. he said something like, what's the problem? i'm paraphrasing, if we talk to a couple of people. >> it can be difficult to paraphrase. >> and here you have jared kushner saying the whole thing just boils down to a couple of facebook ads. but it doesn't. >> you spebl so much time on this. is it an inability to update? >> the whole book is about jared kushner has a disdain, the trace

we know are jared kushner had a problem. we know this congress is looking into that. why his security clearances were initially denied that is worth looking at. that does go to how this white house has gone. it could go to the business ongoing of jared kushner's company or even the president. >> and remember, manafort delivered particular information to a russian oligarch in terms of particular areas that they needed to work in, in terms of wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania. we also remember in the report, florida. the actual machines. something happened in terms of the infrastructure in florida. so part of what follows from this, is our election infrastructure secure? can it be tampered with? and what we see is that for reasons that are unknown to us, trump and his administration aren't concerned. >> it was originally reported the chief of staph said he didn't want to talk about security and securing our elections in 2020. it shouldn't rise to that level because the president doesn't like it. >> so you have that on the one hand. we still don't know the financia

i mean, that's perhaps why jared kushner needed some help to get his security clearance. in january, nbc news reported that when jared kushner first applied for his clearance he was initially rejected until the career officials who made that decision got overruled by highers-up in the trump administration. "the new york times" followed up with this bombshell that it was actually the president himself who ultimately intervened so jared could get his clearance. in short order, cnn reported that it wasn't just jared, it was also the president's daughter ivanka trump who had to have her dad weigh in and pressure white house staff to get her a clearance she otherwise wasn't able to get. so high-ranking official applies for security clearance. high-ranking official gets turned down for serious security reasons. that decision gets overruled by the white house, specifically on orders from the president. we had heard reports of that happening in the trump white house two times. well, today the overrule the security clearance determination list got a lot longer. the democratic chai

but to hear jared kushner is a reminder there's no one in the white house, not mick mulvaney, jared kushner, telling the president he doesn't want to hear. mick mulvaney told kirstjen nielsen to not take this conversation to the president because it's not something he likes to hear because he still equates it with undermining his own 2016 victory. and so this is where trump's owown ego is affecting policy decisions and future elections and it's concerning and how these personalities around here and these stories we work on matter because it's these people blocking him from getting the information he doesn't want to hear. >> are there any republicans left on capitol hill who care about our national security? i'm old enough to have worked with people like john mccain who were very alarmed, who were constantly traveling to russia's neighbors to assure them that america would have their back when russia attacked them. now not only do we have people like that, we have people that don't want to protect us when russia protects us. anyone left in congress that saw russia the way john mccain did? >>

now, a source tells cnn both jared kushner and ivanka trump are on the list of 25. important to note here, the president is legally entitled to order a security clearance for anyone he wishes. chairman cummings comparing the clearance overrides to hillary clinton's use of private e-mail server as secretary of state. >> if the violations are accurate, and i do think they are as ms. newbold has told us, i think this is a million times worse. what you have here are people who literally have the top secrets of the world, and they have not been properly cleared. that should alarm each and every american. >> jared kushner responded last night on fox news. >> over the last two years that i have been here, i have been accused of all different types of things, and all of those things have turned out to be false. >> that's apparently a reference to conclusions in the mueller report, which has not been seen by congress or the public. chairman cummings plans to issue a subpoena this morning demanding an interview with carl kline, cummings is sending a subpoena even though kline

>> someone who may be scrubbed from it was on fox news tonight, jared kushner. let's watch. >> talking about this nonsense further, especially after two years and being wronged so many times, it's just really not productive and quite frankly it's kind of an embarrassment for our democracy. >> so this guy talking about embarrassments for our country, i need 47 more minutes. this is the guy who couldn't get a national security clearance, but his father-in-law weighed in. this is the guy who uses whats app to text with world leaders. this is the guy bho -- please, an embarrassment to the nation is nowhere near, robert, as mueller and his investigation. >> this is also the same guy who was busily courting chinese investors to bail his family out of a say scraper that they overpaid for on fifth avenue and the circumstances around that have never gotten fully resolved. they only backed away from dealing with chinese investors during the transition because it became public through reporting. he then held meetings with russians when he was asked in the congress, did you

also jared kushner today said the mueller investigation was worse for this country than the russian attack itself, which he tosses off as a couple of ads on facebook. >>> andrew sullivan is here tonight to tell us why he believes donald trump is more dangerous than ever before. and what we're still finding that's not getting news coverage inside the mueller report. all of it as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a tuesday night. >>> and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 824 of the trump administration and this white house is fighting back on two fronts, pushing back against the mueller report while also resisting house democrats' efforts to investigate this president. tonight "the washington post" reports that trump not surprise eingly is opposed to having current and former white house staff testify before congress. most especially his former white house counsel don mcgahn who has emerged as one of the stars of the mueller report. robert costa of "the washington post" spoke with the president tonight by phone. "the post" quotes trump as saying and

ivanka trump and jared kushner are on that list and the majority of democrats will call a vote soon on a subpoena to compel white house officials to testify under oath about why the civil servants were overruled and just who made that happen. it's just one of the big investigations being launched by democrats and the partisan bickering today is a clear sign that both sides know this clash over security clearances is the beginning of a road soon to include fights over the mueller report, the president's taxes and more. chairman elijah cummings and ranking chairman jim jordan set the tone. >> she came forward because the system at the white house is so dysfunctional that she believes that congress needs to intervene. in other words, she's crying out. she's begging to us do something. because she simply wants her government to work the way it's supposed to work. to this day they have not produced a single piece of paper or a single requested witness to this committee. >> yesterday -- yesterday, you issue a press release hand picked, cherry picked parts of her testimony. miss newpolled's t

interestingly, jared kushner is responding to this. we don't often hear from kushner and we don't often hear from him talking about security clearances in these meetings. i want to play for you what he had to say. >> i can't comment for the white house's process but i can say over the last two years that i've been here, i've been accused of all different types of things and all those things have turned out to be false. >> joyce, kushner dismissing concerns about these clearances. is he right to do so? >> he's absolutely wrong. security clearances, this is not a political football. it's not a partisan process. and this white house which has destroyed so many guard rails has destroyed guard rails here, as well, with the president inserting his own judgment to replace that of career officials. and it's not something that is irrelevant and not something that is minor. it goes to ensuring the integrity of our country's practices, policies and, most important information. if you have folks who have conflicted loyalties, you open up a whole h

jared kushner, the conflicts he had is all he had was conflicts. that was his resume, the conflicts. these foreign business relations. >> special rules for family, but also special rules for other political appointees. and, again, throughout the white house, you have individuals with access to classified information, sensitive secrets, potentially sources and methods, law enforcement methods, other things that are vital for national security, and you give it to people who can't we trusted or subjected for foreign influence, that's national security issue. >> the justice department building. you know who it was named after? robert f. kennedy. what is this story going to lead to, subpoenas by elijah co cummings. >> he's going to try but the white house is going to fight. >> the whole dirty deal, this nepotistic crap. thank you cuba ken dilanian and jeremy bash. >>> up next, hard to belief stuff about trump. listen closely. hard to believe stuff. you're watching "hardball." (client's voice) remember that degree you got in taxation? (danny) of course y

and we heard it already from jared kushner, the son—in—law of the president? words like this, "the investigation has been a hugely damaging distraction to this country, far more damaging than any russian interference in the election." right. if you want a system that people have faith in, that is not politicised, that is not toxically and corrosively damaged by politics, is impeachment really the way to go? it depends on how anything is done. as i say, people are going to view the result of an investigation or enquiry as just and fair if they think the process was fair and they think the people involved are fair—minded. i understand jared kushner. people who are within the ambit of an investigation never like it. i have never a defendant, i've never met a target who embraced me and sent me flowers and sent me chocolates. that's not how it works. and to say that the investigation has damaged america and american standing, one could respond by saying the activities and the conduct of the president that necessitated an investigation — that was started by the

what's going on with jared kushner's middle east peace plan? >> we have major threats. >> all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. at this moment we are awaiting a press conference from jerry nadler on determine's release of the mueller report. we will go live and tonight in what looks like another transparent attempt to spin mueller's findings in the president's favor, attorney general william barr announces he will hold his own press conference tomorrow morning at 9:30 to unveil his redacted version of the mueller report. the thing is the timing these reporters will not have a chance to see any of the report before barr puts his spin on it just as he did in his now infamous four-page summary clearing the president of any wrong-doing. it's the latest sign of how hard the president and his allies, including barr, are working to manage the long awaited release. the president's lawyers have been meeting to plan their response. the times calls it a rebuttal. reportedly and this is important, with the help of the jus

questions for him would naturally include how is it jared kushner got his security clearance. that same committee has also had to push back its deadline for a subpoena of trump's financial records after trump sued to block that request. oversight chair elijah cummings, democrat of maryland spoke earlier on this network about the president's effort to stop congressional inquiries. >> when we allow these things to happen, basically what the congress is doing and negative the republicans in the congress is allowing president trump our power and in turn take away the power off our constituents. >> there's also news tonight about the only person convicted thus far in the mueller investigation. one paul manafort. he's now officially a federal prisoner. we learned today he'll do his seven plus years at the federal potentiary. the aforementioned robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post," moderator of washington week on pbs. maya wily, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now with the new school here in new york. and david joll

he is a mysterious character more so than jared kushner. >> stephen miller is fascinating. the senior policy adviser, but focuses on one policy. immigration. he has always been driven by immigration and restrictive hard-line approach. for miller, for all of that, he is playing the long game. unlike the other aides who are no longer in the white house, he wants to be here for four years or eight years. he believes driving immigration policy. he will not try to knife the president's son-in-law in the backhim. that is why you see them uneasily cou exists right now. >> that is because you think when push comes to shovel, if the president has to choose, your money is on kushner? >> it's a tough call. kushner is in many ways untouchable because of the familial ties to the president. the president is unwilling to jettison jared on that front. at the same time, if the president had to choose on immigration, his gut and heart and rhetoric is a bit more with stephen miller. >> ashley, good to see you. thanks so much. >>> democrats in congress are not the only one to threaten the shut

they want to know the process where people like jared kushner and ivanka trump. what's the process behind them getting a clearance after being denied a clearance? >> right. the security clearance issue of the white house first came to light over a year ago it was rob porter and staff secretary and questions are raised even though he's twice accused and since then we have seen other like jared kushner as you said obtained clearances of the president stepping into help make that happen and it is more than that. these are probably questions as they are and important questions. it is also a first shot from the democrats. more is coming. we know more is coming against the ongoing fight of findings of that investigation. they wanted to happen today. that does not appear to be happening. barr has said he delivered more materials later this month. there is great questions that it is going to be redacted and the reasons behind those redactions. this is today i interpreted as also as much of the house of democrats, hey, we are not going to let it go and give you a victory

among them, jared kushner and ivanka trump. we have more on this. laura, good morning. >> good morning. that whistleblower is tricia newbold. for the last 18 years, she worked under republicans and democrats in the personnel security office at the white house. it is unclear if she will stay on the job following the allegations. the white house has yet to comment on her future. a career white house official says 25 people in the trump administration were granted security clearances despite disqualifying issues. >> things like drug uses, criminal activity. >> reporter: a memo from elijah cummings says tricia newbolt felt this is my last hope to bring integrity into the office. >> the things she has told us -- >> reporter: newbold told the committee about two senior white house officials still on the job, both drew objections on staff. the objections were overruled, despite concerns such as foreign influence. none of the 25 people were named in the memo. the committee has been investigating security clearances of nine senior officials, including the pr

jared kushner is omitting things about russian interference. it was more than just buying a few facebook ads. there were all sorts of secret meetings between russians and trump campaign people. he didn't mention that. the idea that he's reframing this as that's how they try to dance around the edges of the election. this is what robert mueller said. the russian government interferes in the 2016 election in sweeping and systematic fashion >> that's the second paragraph. i know it's 448 pages >> i'll read the whole thing right now. >> jared didn't have to get far to get to that statement. >> what is it that he just said? >> look, it's not just facebook ads or meetings with trump officials. this was aggressive hacking of democratic campaigns, party committees, leaders in the party and humiliation by having that released publicly. this is one more episode in the multi year effort by the president and his closest associates to treat as trivial what was far from trivial in the 2016 campaign. i think it's something that happens on a visceral level wit

we have jared kushner, senior adviser to president trump. he sat down exclusively with me today. you'll hear his first comments since the mueller probe concluded, his first reaction to a new report about his security clearance and how the president's first-step program could actually reset the entire electorate as we know it, this is ahead of 2020. of course, all of the stories of redemption on top of that. the president's pick for the fed, steve moore, is coming under increasing attack. what began as policy critiques have become far more personal. he's here to react. first, unbecoming joe biden.

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that's what jared kushner thinks of robert mueller's investigation compared to russia interference in the elections. >> frankly the whole thing is a big distraction for the country. you look at what russia did, buying some facebook ads to sew dissent. i think the investigations and speculation that's happened for the last two years had a much harsher impact on democracy than a couple of facebook ads. >> a couple facebook ads. that's a senior white house official, reducing russia's interference in the u.s. elections in 2016 to a couple of facebook ads. in fact, that's just not true. just a note. special counsel robert mueller's redacted report says russian facebook accounts made over 80,000 posts and reached at least 29 million people, but may have reached an estimated 126 million people. it ignores mueller's line in the introduction of the report that reads the russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential elections in sweeping and systemic fashion. in addition to the extensive detail on the aggressive cyber tactics that russia used, and still uses to interfere in our democra

jared kushner got one of the most difficult jobs in the world and mike pompeo was asked in a congressional hearing when the plan would be finished and he didn't give a time line. >> when should we expect the jared kushner peace plan that has been talked about and worked on, and as someone similar to mr. price who worked on this issue for my whole career, i hope we don't have to wait another 20 years. can you tell us when we will see the peace plan? >> in less than 20 plans. >> could you be more precise? >> i can't say much more. >> let's bring in aman, host of "the break down." we have heard from the ambassador. we will hear from him in more detail in a few minutes. what do we understand about the middle east peace process and what it is. everything it s with a remain of facts. zoom of the people are been involved somewhat. i would not be holding my breath for some of the facts that we do know that involves the realities on the ground. the most important thing to keep in mend is that this is a peace process, that doesn't have a process attached to it. they have not been speaking to both si

whether it's jared kushner or anybody else. and the fact that there is such a partisan fight about it, instead of what we actually did used to see not that long ago, now it seems like, you know, ancient history, a coming together of that oversight responsibility, constitutional responsibility that congress has over something as fundamental as that, that really shouldn't be political, but it's political as everything else is now. >> i was going to say everything is these days, no matter what, unfortunately. elie, you touched on it, and this is the white house playbook, this back and forth and what we know the white house response will be, but the fact things get pushed into the courts to play out there. and i would argue, too, to drag out there, to let this drag out as long as possible. what are we looking at then potentially? >> this could be a political play. part of what the administration may want is the fight itself, just to say we stood our ground, we went to the courts. if they lose, they say there you go, they're liberal

what she's talking about is the cia flagged jared kushner's application. what do have to do for the cew a to raise concerns? >> drug use o cay. criminal condulkts. that's a deal breaker. financial problems which makes you vulnerable. aldridge aims, if you remember, that was part of it there. these are all huge red flag issues. the number we're talking about is way out of bounds. they'vallred ea been cleared before or they've been prescreened to make sure they quickly get things processed. and it was interesting even from the republican who except for a few who are denied, which is more alarming, we on elaneed it deny them if it's so bad you wouldn't need it. we just went through a two-year investigation focussed on foreign influence. can you imagine wanting to share with us right now. you've seen this messy investigation and you don't know if your intelligence and there's a lot of things to be concerned about. do you go in the white house and divulge anything or are you nervous about giving the information up in the white house? >> i feel like what you're