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jeff rosen who ran the office in the final day of the trump presidency, he was deposed on wednesday. is there any intel on what he provided or at least expectations of what he might have addressed? we know that he battled trump's efforts to co-op the doj. >> he did. when i was the house impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial, i presented to the senate and i talked about mr. rosen, and he actually did stand up, and he actually did help hold our democracy together, so i'm sure he had a lot to tell the january 6th committee. >> let's talk about another trump official from the doj, jeffrey clark. he's been subpoenaed. now, he was a trump loyalist who, according to rosen told rosen that trump was going to oust him from the top job and replace him with clark. why would donald trump have wanted to do that? >> so yeah, so jeffrey clark is exactly the opposite of mr. rosen. he wanted to burn down our democracy. he was going to do everything he could to keep the former president in office, even though trump lost. and i think jeffrey clark has a lot to answer for. i hope that he do
jeff rosen who ran the office in the final day of the trump presidency, he was deposed on wednesday. is there any intel on what he provided or at least expectations of what he might have addressed? we know that he battled trump's efforts to co-op the doj. >> he did. when i was the house impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial, i presented to the senate and i talked about mr. rosen, and he actually did stand up, and he actually did help hold our democracy together, so i'm sure...
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robert, jeff rosen is behind closed doors for eight solid hours. i reckon we will someday get to read the transcript with any secrets blacked out. what do you reckon a guy like that can tell a committee like this? >> he can detail how the department of justice interacted with the states that were maybe in some republican circles trying to think about having an alternate slate of electors. he can give granular detail to the effort inside the department of justice in the final days of the trump administration. and democrats on capitol hill have to answer the question ahead of 2024, what are the stakes? what will they do? i just keep thinking about a scene in our book where jim clyburn says, behind the scenes, privately, democracy is on fire. and democrats have to break the filibuster, he says to colleagues, even if joe manchin and others don't want to do it to pursue stricter laws to help all voters have access to the polls. and as rosen and perhaps clark testified, it's not about the past. it's about the future. if someone is in control of the depar
robert, jeff rosen is behind closed doors for eight solid hours. i reckon we will someday get to read the transcript with any secrets blacked out. what do you reckon a guy like that can tell a committee like this? >> he can detail how the department of justice interacted with the states that were maybe in some republican circles trying to think about having an alternate slate of electors. he can give granular detail to the effort inside the department of justice in the final days of the...
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meaning attorney general, rosen and i put him in, meaning jeff clark. what do you do? i said sir i would resign immediately. and then he turned to steve angle, and said steve you would not resign would? you and steve said absolutely i would mister president. you leave me no choice. and i said, well, steve's not the only one's, or all of your assistance attorney general will resign. you should count on, that they are going to resign. in these are your people. these are not bureaucrats left over from another administration, these are your handpicked people, your leadership in the department. this is the team you sent to the senate, you've got, confirmed they're all going to walk away. on you. all at once. what does that say about you as a leader? what does that say about the department of what's going on here. and you should not think it will end, there because i don't have any idea with the u.s. attorneys will do. the u.s. returnees may resign and mass. you may have other department personnel are designed, you can have a situation here within 24 hours where you have hun
meaning attorney general, rosen and i put him in, meaning jeff clark. what do you do? i said sir i would resign immediately. and then he turned to steve angle, and said steve you would not resign would? you and steve said absolutely i would mister president. you leave me no choice. and i said, well, steve's not the only one's, or all of your assistance attorney general will resign. you should count on, that they are going to resign. in these are your people. these are not bureaucrats left over...
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jeff rosen. jeffrey clark said that trump told him rosen was going to be fired and clark was going to take over as acting attorney general. this was in the context of clark moving forward trump's efforts to overturn the election. it is extremely important to know what clark knows and level of detail he has about the election overturned effort. the other thing interesting about clark is most of the lawyers around trump in his final days who were pushing this effort to reverse the election outcome were not government employees. rudy giuliani could not get a job in the trump administration. john eastman did not have a trump administration job. this is the end of the trump administration and only trump's most on-board bitter loyalists were still working for him and in the category of people, clark was the only senior trump administration lawyer that we know of who was actively pushing to spread conspiracy theories to these other states. the white house counsel was against it. jeff rosen. was against
jeff rosen. jeffrey clark said that trump told him rosen was going to be fired and clark was going to take over as acting attorney general. this was in the context of clark moving forward trump's efforts to overturn the election. it is extremely important to know what clark knows and level of detail he has about the election overturned effort. the other thing interesting about clark is most of the lawyers around trump in his final days who were pushing this effort to reverse the election...
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if jeff rosen told the house committee the same things that he told the senate judiciary committee about jeffrey clark, then jeffrey clark is living in fear of criminal charges tonight of attempted election fraud and conspiracy to commit election fraud. joining our discussion, jill wine-banks former assistant prosecutor and matt miller former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. i want to begin with this key question that i think has left a lot of us confused. why were you so effective in getting compliance to subpoenas against president nixon and his administration during the watergate investigation and the democrats in congress have been so ineffective in relative terms in pursuit of the same kind of subpoenas against team trump? >> it's really a very simple answer. because president nixon, despite his crimes and despite all the wrong that he did, actually believed in our system of laws and government. and when confronted with a supreme court decision, he agreed to comply. so he never tried to stop people. he did try to claim executive privilege, but the supreme court said, no,
if jeff rosen told the house committee the same things that he told the senate judiciary committee about jeffrey clark, then jeffrey clark is living in fear of criminal charges tonight of attempted election fraud and conspiracy to commit election fraud. joining our discussion, jill wine-banks former assistant prosecutor and matt miller former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. i want to begin with this key question that i think has left a lot of us confused. why were you so effective...
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ryan: santa clara district attorney jeff rosen says the charges will be taken very seriously. in the arraignment the judge denied a request from o'connor's attorney to postpone the case and is being held in santa clara jail without bond. >> we filed a motion for the court to set no bail in this case in order to protect the victims, the community, and to secure the defendant's appearance for trial. ryan: we reached out for an interview with o'connor and she declined. the d.a.'s office believes an early motive for o'connor's actions is sexual gratification and use social media to lure minors to her home and give them alcohol, condoms and private rooms to commit sexual acts. that sometimes were not consensual. >> one of the crimes that we have charged involves committing the crime for samuel grat of indication so we can say that -- samuel gratification so we can say that's one of the motives in this case. reporter: the district attorney did say there is a separate set of complaints about an embezzlement issue with her that could be tied to this case but the district attorney says
ryan: santa clara district attorney jeff rosen says the charges will be taken very seriously. in the arraignment the judge denied a request from o'connor's attorney to postpone the case and is being held in santa clara jail without bond. >> we filed a motion for the court to set no bail in this case in order to protect the victims, the community, and to secure the defendant's appearance for trial. ryan: we reached out for an interview with o'connor and she declined. the d.a.'s office...
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jeff rosen explained one of the charges one of the crimes that we have charged involves committee in the crime for sexual gratification so we can certainly say that sexual gratification is one of the motives in this case. now her two teenage sons have been removed from her custody faces up to 20 years and eight months in prison if convicted on all counts. in the south bay now palo alto is addressing a string of incidents involving racist graffiti homophobic slurs and anti-asian attacks tackling issues of race, and social justice is a critical key to building a better bay area and here's abc 7 news reporter amanda del castillo with tonight's community meeting. there isn't a community across the south bay that hasn't suffered a hate crime word from the santa clara county da's office, which joined the city of palo alto its police department and others wednesday to take on the topic a hate crime is always associated with an actual crime. there has to be a vandalism there has to be a threat there has to be a a battery lately palo alto has seen a string of hate crimes and hate incidents ra
jeff rosen explained one of the charges one of the crimes that we have charged involves committee in the crime for sexual gratification so we can certainly say that sexual gratification is one of the motives in this case. now her two teenage sons have been removed from her custody faces up to 20 years and eight months in prison if convicted on all counts. in the south bay now palo alto is addressing a string of incidents involving racist graffiti homophobic slurs and anti-asian attacks tackling...
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jeff rosen explained one of the charges one of the crimes that we have charged involves committee in the crime for sexual gratification so we can certainly say that sexual gratification is one of the motives in this case. now her two teenage sons have been removed from her custody faces up to 20 years and eight months in prison if convicted on all counts. in the south bay now palo alto is addressing a string of incidents involving racist graffiti homophobic slurs and anti-asian attacks tackling issues of race, and social justice is a critical key to building a better bay area and here's abc 7 news reporter amanda del castillo with tonight's community meeting. there isn't a community across the south bay that hasn't suffered a hate crime word from the santa clara county da's office, which joined the city of palo alto its police department and others wednesday to take on the topic a hate crime is always associated with an actual crime. there has to be a vandalism there has to be a threat there has to be a a battery lately palo alto has seen a string of hate crimes and hate incidents ra
jeff rosen explained one of the charges one of the crimes that we have charged involves committee in the crime for sexual gratification so we can certainly say that sexual gratification is one of the motives in this case. now her two teenage sons have been removed from her custody faces up to 20 years and eight months in prison if convicted on all counts. in the south bay now palo alto is addressing a string of incidents involving racist graffiti homophobic slurs and anti-asian attacks tackling...
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the question was whether he should remove jeffrey rosen and put in jeff clark. there was some discussion about the letter to georgia. at that point it was difficult to separate the issue of the letter, and jeff clark being in the leadership position because it was very clear. he stated it repeatedly that if president trump made jeff clark the acting attorney general, jeff clark would send that letter on behalf of the justice department. so it wasn't a third option where he would become the attorney general and the letter would not go. they were sort of one in the same at that point. he said, quote, essentially everyone in the room, jeff clark was advocating for jeff clark to become attorney general. everyone else was adamantly opposed to the president taking that step. he said, we went around the room telling the president why he wii thought it was a terrible idea. the president said, what do i have to lose? what do i lose if i put jeff clark in at this point. i said, sir, you stand to lose a great amount. there was discussion whether jeff clark was qualified to
the question was whether he should remove jeffrey rosen and put in jeff clark. there was some discussion about the letter to georgia. at that point it was difficult to separate the issue of the letter, and jeff clark being in the leadership position because it was very clear. he stated it repeatedly that if president trump made jeff clark the acting attorney general, jeff clark would send that letter on behalf of the justice department. so it wasn't a third option where he would become the...
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>> you certainly get that sense if you read the transcripts from former acting attorney jeff rosen and his deputy. you get the sense they were always wondering, is there somebody behind jeff clark? they would have these conversations with him and then come back wondering, who is helping him in these efforts? where are these legal theories coming from? that's a sense you get. >> wow. in terms of what is likely to happen next here, i'm struck by the fact that there seems to be good documentation of how seen -- senior officials tried to help trump. william barr not only personally telling u.s. attorneys to make it their first priority to investigate some of these claims, but telling the fbi to interview specific witnesses. the attorney general, the deputy attorney general getting involved personally t try to push this out. is that seen as a problem in the justice department going forward? >> i think that there are calls by former justice department employees and current employees that one of the reasons to do a full review of what happened in the justice department during the trump era is
>> you certainly get that sense if you read the transcripts from former acting attorney jeff rosen and his deputy. you get the sense they were always wondering, is there somebody behind jeff clark? they would have these conversations with him and then come back wondering, who is helping him in these efforts? where are these legal theories coming from? that's a sense you get. >> wow. in terms of what is likely to happen next here, i'm struck by the fact that there seems to be good...
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we know a ton about jeff rosen's perspective, he's actually been unusually forthcoming regarding just about everything he knows from his time running the justice department through a historically chaotic moment. i know based on conversations with folks throughout the day that one of the key focuses now for the january 6th select committee, one thing that they really pressed rosen on when he was testifying was clark's role. lots of questions about who clark was working with, whether he was working with people in the justice department as well as who he was working with outside the justice department. questions about the way clark was connected to strategies to try to get the supreme court to step in and overturn the election, as well, of course, as lots of questions regarding this effort to tell the state legislators falsely that the fbi had found meaningful evidence of voter fraud so the state legislators would try to step in. clark is the key next figure for the select committee to talk to. what's interesting about him is that several months ago, trump actually green lit clark's test
we know a ton about jeff rosen's perspective, he's actually been unusually forthcoming regarding just about everything he knows from his time running the justice department through a historically chaotic moment. i know based on conversations with folks throughout the day that one of the key focuses now for the january 6th select committee, one thing that they really pressed rosen on when he was testifying was clark's role. lots of questions about who clark was working with, whether he was...
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rosen and made jeff clark the acting attorney general. the senate judiciary committee's democratic staff report says at some point during the meeting deputy attorney general richard dawn hue and assistant attorney general steven engel made clear that all the assistant attorneys general would resign if trump replaced rosen with clark. they also recalled white house counsel pat cipollone and deputy council patrick fillben pushing back against the proposal calling clark's letter a murder-suicide pact. and the two white house lawyers indicating that they would also resign. despite being informed early on that the clark course of action would prompt mass resignations. and even though every participant in the meeting except clark advocated strongly against that course of action, trump continued for some time to entertain the idea of installing clark in rosen's plays. and so donald trump who tlaut his life has been a cowardly man, got scared. he was afraid of many or most of the 90 u.s. attorneys and hundreds of assistant u.s. attorneys and doze
rosen and made jeff clark the acting attorney general. the senate judiciary committee's democratic staff report says at some point during the meeting deputy attorney general richard dawn hue and assistant attorney general steven engel made clear that all the assistant attorneys general would resign if trump replaced rosen with clark. they also recalled white house counsel pat cipollone and deputy council patrick fillben pushing back against the proposal calling clark's letter a murder-suicide...
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it speaks for itself in terms of what witnesses said including jeff rosen, who according to the report was threatened he would be fired and replaced by someone in the civil division without that expertise which was behind this notion of using the justice department in a way not traditional. it would be a violation of the hatch act to use the power of the federal government to win elections. that is plainly a crime under federal law. secondly, as chuck grassley himself, the irony himself, is 88 years old, has decided to run again for the senate in iowa -- after the january 6 insurrection, he declined to vote to remove donald trump from office. if you recall, the rationale then was not that this was not a problem, it was that it does not make sense in terms of timing because he is no longer in office so we cannot technically remove someone not in office. even republicans did not argue then that his actions were not impeachable. chuck grassley said he lost. it is clear donald trump lost. i'm paraphrasing but that he bullied election officials across the country in that process. that is an
it speaks for itself in terms of what witnesses said including jeff rosen, who according to the report was threatened he would be fired and replaced by someone in the civil division without that expertise which was behind this notion of using the justice department in a way not traditional. it would be a violation of the hatch act to use the power of the federal government to win elections. that is plainly a crime under federal law. secondly, as chuck grassley himself, the irony himself, is 88...
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rosen with jeff clark. tried to install jeff clark himself as attorney general, so the clark plan would go ahead. again, to have the justice department declare serious fraud in the election and to direct states to therefore not send their biden electors. it was absolutely insane. it was also a rational plan, that they didn't just spit ball about. they didn't just fantasize about it. they drafted the letter to the states. he did insist on the press conference to other justice department officials. the justice department officials even tried to on-board u.s. attorneys, federal prosecutors in the relevant states to back them up on these spurious fraud claims they were going to use to keep trump in power even though he lost the election. just saying this, right. like i said, news on this front has been absolutely terrible as we learned of all of the things they tried. but in today's news a little glimmer with the news that jeff clark has apparently finally agreed to testify to the committee that is investigatin
rosen with jeff clark. tried to install jeff clark himself as attorney general, so the clark plan would go ahead. again, to have the justice department declare serious fraud in the election and to direct states to therefore not send their biden electors. it was absolutely insane. it was also a rational plan, that they didn't just spit ball about. they didn't just fantasize about it. they drafted the letter to the states. he did insist on the press conference to other justice department...
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robert costa, jeff rosen is behind closed doors for eight solid hours, i reckon we will someday get to read the transcript, with any secrets blacked out. but what do you reckon a guy like that can tell a committee like this? >> he can detail how the department of justice interacted with the states, the states that were maybe in some republican circles, trying to think about having an alternate set of electors, bringing four different cases of voter fraud, he can give grainy will detail to the effort inside the department of justice, in the final days, of the trump administration, democrats on capitol hill have to answer the question ahead of 2024, what are the stakes, what will they do, i just keep thinking about a scene in our book, where jim clyburn, the house majority whip says, behind the scenes privately, democracy, is on fire. and democrats have to break the filibuster, he says to colleagues, even if joe manchin in west virginia senator and others don't want to, do it to pursue stricter laws to help all voters have access to the polls. that's the level of alarm, at least virgin c
robert costa, jeff rosen is behind closed doors for eight solid hours, i reckon we will someday get to read the transcript, with any secrets blacked out. but what do you reckon a guy like that can tell a committee like this? >> he can detail how the department of justice interacted with the states, the states that were maybe in some republican circles, trying to think about having an alternate set of electors, bringing four different cases of voter fraud, he can give grainy will detail to...
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rosen, startling testimony we know he has to give. privilege that would have stood in if way waived by the biden administration and the same as you mentioned in the open with documents, they are getting a ton of information and ingredient in that is not just the carrot but the stick. this bannon contempt however long it may take, it will bring other witnesses to step forward. it's a good move. >> gloria, i want to show you the video again that we just got. it does remind people of the horrible stakes of what is at stake and what happened of these people assaulting officer fanone. he pulled out his badge and that they he had a heart attack and ptsd and brain injury. steve bannon was the one saying all hell was going to lose tomorrow. he was not hide ning in the cor of facebook and not known by the fbi. he was saying this. it's clear he does not want to cooperate. >> right, i spoke with a source and they're thinking this. steve bannon is an unsympathetic figure, he's low-hanging fruit. he's the person at least claimed to have executive
rosen, startling testimony we know he has to give. privilege that would have stood in if way waived by the biden administration and the same as you mentioned in the open with documents, they are getting a ton of information and ingredient in that is not just the carrot but the stick. this bannon contempt however long it may take, it will bring other witnesses to step forward. it's a good move. >> gloria, i want to show you the video again that we just got. it does remind people of the...
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the former acting attorney general jeff rosen confirm that president trump desperately wanted a loyalist who believes his lies about the election to run the justice department and essentially overturn the election. trump only backed down at the very last minute when a whole bunch of people said they would renew en masse, including his white house counsel, and the mass exodus that would likely ensue is what finally convinced trump to back down. since that time, though, the former president's lies have metastasized in the gop. testimony as part of an investigation into that sham audit of arizona's election results as the country looks at similar ways to curry favor with trump and essentially undermine free and fair elections. >> this is without a doubt the biggest threat to our democracy in my lifetime. if elected officials continue to choose party over truth, then these procedures are going to continue on, these privately funded government-backed attacks on legitimate elections. as a republican who believes in democracy, i dreamed of one day going to a nation that was trying to build a de
the former acting attorney general jeff rosen confirm that president trump desperately wanted a loyalist who believes his lies about the election to run the justice department and essentially overturn the election. trump only backed down at the very last minute when a whole bunch of people said they would renew en masse, including his white house counsel, and the mass exodus that would likely ensue is what finally convinced trump to back down. since that time, though, the former president's...
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rosen met with the committee for eight hours today. there is a lot that he could tell them in eight hours. remember, this is the acting a.g. who refused to sign the letter clark wrote pushing the bogus claim of voting irregularities in georgia. that is happening as the white house tonight is rejecting the latest request from the former president to assert executive privilege and keep the committee from seeing some documents that it requested, trying to assert executive privilege even though he is no longer the executive. he still is in his mind but he's not. a big couple of days ahead for that committee. kash patel, steve bannon scheduled for depositions tomorrow. mark meadows friday. patel and meadows are reportedly engaging with the committee but only recently served bannon won't be providing documents until they reach an agreement with the former president over executive privilege or a court weighs in. bannon was not a government official. the former guy is not the executive anymore. drag it on through the courts. but the latest thr
rosen met with the committee for eight hours today. there is a lot that he could tell them in eight hours. remember, this is the acting a.g. who refused to sign the letter clark wrote pushing the bogus claim of voting irregularities in georgia. that is happening as the white house tonight is rejecting the latest request from the former president to assert executive privilege and keep the committee from seeing some documents that it requested, trying to assert executive privilege even though he...
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it was a request made by the da outside court da jeff rosen on why his office fot to keep her in custody. i have scene. >> some people refer to the defendant. as a cool mom. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children then assaults on one >> someone who does these things. it's a parent that does these things. it's reckless irresponsible. >> in criminal. also in court o'connor slapped with 15 protective orders legally banning her from making any contact with a minor victims in the case. one of those alleged victims, her son. it was at her nearly 5 million dollar home in los gatos. prosecutors say teens told them o'connor gave them alcohol, handed out condoms and encourage teens to have with intoxicated. kids. the sides are home. a party last year at the santa cruz home caught drunk teens vomiting in the bushes and causing $9,000 in damages, a trip to lake tahoe also an alleged similar drunk fest when asked about a motive rosen had this to say about one of the crimes that we have involves. >> committing the crime for gratification. >> so we can certainly say that gratification is o
it was a request made by the da outside court da jeff rosen on why his office fot to keep her in custody. i have scene. >> some people refer to the defendant. as a cool mom. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children then assaults on one >> someone who does these things. it's a parent that does these things. it's reckless irresponsible. >> in criminal. also in court o'connor slapped with 15 protective orders legally banning her from making any contact with a minor...
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rosen. jeffrey clark was a key player in the election results. in at least nine calls or meetings, president trump directly raised claims of election fraud for doj to investigate. mark meadows, asked acting a.j. rosen to launch a fraud investigation. assistant a.g. clark attempted to recruit rose on the back his scheme on the georgia process in exchange for clark turning down trump's request. his allies inexuding scott perry of pennsylvania participated in the doj pressure campaign. lastly, the doj deviated from its longstanding policy of investigating election fraud claims after certification to avoid politicizing the department. based on the report, the committee may suggest criminal prosecutions. meanwhile republicans issued their own findings based on the same testimony and concluded that the former president was concerned about electionic integrity in general and followed the advice of doj officials. former president trump is instructing his former aides and allies not to comply with su
rosen. jeffrey clark was a key player in the election results. in at least nine calls or meetings, president trump directly raised claims of election fraud for doj to investigate. mark meadows, asked acting a.j. rosen to launch a fraud investigation. assistant a.g. clark attempted to recruit rose on the back his scheme on the georgia process in exchange for clark turning down trump's request. his allies inexuding scott perry of pennsylvania participated in the doj pressure campaign. lastly, the...
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the former acting attorney general jeff rosen. and former president trump trying to block the release of documents from the national archives and the clock here is ticking. laura jarrett is with us on this story. laura, what are you expecting to see today? >> guys, the big question this morning is whether anyone shows up. house investigators end up sitting in a room alone. the committee scheduled two depositions for today and two for friday. up first, kash patel. he was trump's defense secretary and is engaging with the january 6th committee. but no word whether he will actually turn up on the hill today. and then former trump adviser steve bannon. he is stonewalling the committee on documents and already said he will be a no-show today. in a statement last night, bannon's attorney said his client isn't participating because trump told him not to, citing executive privilege. bannon, you'll recall, was fired back in 2017, so he wasn't even part of the executive branch on january 6th, making any assertions of privilege about his tal
the former acting attorney general jeff rosen. and former president trump trying to block the release of documents from the national archives and the clock here is ticking. laura jarrett is with us on this story. laura, what are you expecting to see today? >> guys, the big question this morning is whether anyone shows up. house investigators end up sitting in a room alone. the committee scheduled two depositions for today and two for friday. up first, kash patel. he was trump's defense...
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rosen, and made geoff clark the acting attorney general. the senate judiciary committees democratic staff reports says, at some point during the, meeting deputy attorney general, richard donahue, and assistant attorney general steven angle, made clear that all of the assistant attorneys general would resign if trump replaced rosen with clark. donahue added that the mass resignations, would not end there, and that u.s. attorneys, and other doj officials, might also resign on. they also recalled white house counsel -- deputy counsel patrick philbin, pushing back against the proposal to replace rosen with, clark calling clark splitter a murder suicide pact. in the two white house lawyers indicating that they would also resign. despite being informed early on, that the clark course of action would prompt mass resignations, and even though, every participant in the meeting except clark, advocated strongly against that course of action, trump continued for some time, to entertain the idea, of installing clark in rosen's place. in so donald trump,
rosen, and made geoff clark the acting attorney general. the senate judiciary committees democratic staff reports says, at some point during the, meeting deputy attorney general, richard donahue, and assistant attorney general steven angle, made clear that all of the assistant attorneys general would resign if trump replaced rosen with clark. donahue added that the mass resignations, would not end there, and that u.s. attorneys, and other doj officials, might also resign on. they also recalled...
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rosen removed so that trump could have the justice department saying they thought there was fraud. the backup plan was violence. that's the backup plan. can you imagine sitting around in a room and saying, okay, well, if pence doesn't come through and pence is saying it was just another january day now, if pence doesn't come through, we have this backup plan because we have all these people coming to washington. the other surprise is that $50,000 bill goes to the willard hotel and not the trump hotel. trump was so crazed by this time, here's a guy who wanted the g-7 at the doral. he didn't want to have his war room. he was so crazed and possessed he didn't have the war room at the trump hotel. >> it's an interesting point for those of us who are connoisseurs of trump's dealings who had no bounds. i'm sure the committee will look at the chain of how things were planned and booked and whether that itself was a kind of admission of a certain potential culpability. margaret, you also mentioned how some republicans are still running from this. they both don't want to alienate which is a
rosen removed so that trump could have the justice department saying they thought there was fraud. the backup plan was violence. that's the backup plan. can you imagine sitting around in a room and saying, okay, well, if pence doesn't come through and pence is saying it was just another january day now, if pence doesn't come through, we have this backup plan because we have all these people coming to washington. the other surprise is that $50,000 bill goes to the willard hotel and not the trump...
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rosen, wouldn't sign on to it. when rosen wouldn't sign off on it, when you allow this plot to go forward. trump then tried to replace rosen with jeffrey clark. try to install geoff clark himself as attorney general, so the clark plan would go ahead. again, to have the doj declares here is fraud in the election, and to direct states to there for now to send their biden electors, it was absolutely insane. it was also a rational plan. they didn't just fall about it, they didn't just fantasize about it, they drafted the letters to the states, he didn't insist on the press conference, justice department officials even tried to on board u.s. attorneys, federal prosecutors in the role living in states, tobacco up on the spear's fraud claims they were going to use, to keep trump in power even though he lost the election. news on this front has been absolutely terrible, as we've learned from all the things that they've tried. but it today, a little glimmer with the news that jeff clark has apparently finally agreed to test
rosen, wouldn't sign on to it. when rosen wouldn't sign off on it, when you allow this plot to go forward. trump then tried to replace rosen with jeffrey clark. try to install geoff clark himself as attorney general, so the clark plan would go ahead. again, to have the doj declares here is fraud in the election, and to direct states to there for now to send their biden electors, it was absolutely insane. it was also a rational plan. they didn't just fall about it, they didn't just fantasize...
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it was a request made by the da outside court da jeff rosen on why his office fot to keep her in custody. i have scene. >> some people refer to the defendant. as a cool mom. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children then assaults on one >> someone who does these things. it's a parent that does these things. it's reckless irresponsible. >> and criminal. also in court o'connor slapped with 15 protective orders legally banning her from making any contact with a minor victims in the case. one of those alleged victims, her son. it was at her nearly 5 million dollar home in los gatos. prosecutors say teens told them o'connor gave them alcohol, handed out condoms and encourage teens to have with intoxicated. kids. the sides are home. a party last year at the santa cruz home caught drunk teens vomiting in the bushes and causing $9,000 in damages. a trip to lake tahoe. also an alleged similar drunk fest when asked about a motive rosen had this to say about one of the crimes that we have involves. >> committing the crime for gratification. >> so we can certainly say that gratification is
it was a request made by the da outside court da jeff rosen on why his office fot to keep her in custody. i have scene. >> some people refer to the defendant. as a cool mom. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children then assaults on one >> someone who does these things. it's a parent that does these things. it's reckless irresponsible. >> and criminal. also in court o'connor slapped with 15 protective orders legally banning her from making any contact with a minor...
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district attorney jeff rosen said in a statement, quote, it is disappointing that an officer on or off duty would act in such a reckless and violent way. a higher standard of behavior is not a suggestion or request. it is built into the badge. >> in the east bay. the family of a mentally ill man shot 9 times by a danville police officer has received a nearly 5 million dollars settlement from contra. costa county. this comes nearly 3 years after the 2018 fatal shooting on a mirar be was shot while slowly driving away from police family attorney john burris announced the settlement today for the lawsuit by the family yesterday. a jury convicted officer andrew hall a felony assault with a firearm. the verdict was the first law enforcement felony conviction involving an off-duty police shooting in contra, costa county. >> for your money tonight. the price of gasoline in san francisco has reached a new record according to the american automobile association of northern california. the current price of regular gasoline is $4 and $0.75. that's the highest it has ever been and some stations ar
district attorney jeff rosen said in a statement, quote, it is disappointing that an officer on or off duty would act in such a reckless and violent way. a higher standard of behavior is not a suggestion or request. it is built into the badge. >> in the east bay. the family of a mentally ill man shot 9 times by a danville police officer has received a nearly 5 million dollars settlement from contra. costa county. this comes nearly 3 years after the 2018 fatal shooting on a mirar be was...
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district attorney jeff rosen, saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults who endanger children fully accountable to the law. and our community. o'connor wit, including child abuse, child endangerment, sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors. we have requested to speak with her from jail but if not heard back if convicted, she could face jail time and would have to register as a sex offender. in the newsroom. i'm brooks jarocz ktvu fox. two news well, the trial against theranos founder elizabeth holmes resumed today at the federal courthouse in san jose. two key witnesses for the prosecution testified about the unfulfilled promises homes made about her blood testing technology. former safely. ceo stephen bird testified about cutting a multimillion dollar deal with theranos to open 900 blood testing sites inside safely stores nationwide. efforts at homes had promised her the machines could perform 95% of blood test. but he said holmes kept delaying the l
district attorney jeff rosen, saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults who endanger children fully accountable to the law. and our community. o'connor wit, including child abuse, child endangerment, sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors. we have requested to speak with her from jail but if not heard back if convicted, she could face jail time and would have...
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we know a ton about jeff rosen's perspective, he is actually been unusually forthcoming, regarding just about everything he knows, from his time running the justice department, through historically chaotic moment, we know based on conversations with folks throughout the day. that one of the key focus is now for the january 6th select committee, one thing that they're really pressed rosen, and when he was testifying, was clark's role, lots of questions about who clark was working with. whether it is working with people in the justice department, as well as who is working with outside the justice department. questions about the way clark was connected to strategies, to try to get the supreme court to step in, and overturn the election. as well as of course, with lots of questions regarding this effort to tell the state legislatures, falsely, that the fbi and found evidence of voter fraud, that state legislatures with somehow trying to step. and clark is really the key next figure for the select committee, to talk to. what's really interesting about him, though is several months ago, trump
we know a ton about jeff rosen's perspective, he is actually been unusually forthcoming, regarding just about everything he knows, from his time running the justice department, through historically chaotic moment, we know based on conversations with folks throughout the day. that one of the key focus is now for the january 6th select committee, one thing that they're really pressed rosen, and when he was testifying, was clark's role, lots of questions about who clark was working with. whether...
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district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to them commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a dozen teams at her home. both of her kids are now in protective custody and then investigation is ongoing. the victim's families asked for privacy and do not want to speak on the case. o'connor would not return our request for comment. she does remain in jail without bail, and a plea hearing is scheduled for december. 17th. in san jose brooks jarocz ktvu, fox two news. and we are tracking that forecast. it includes a lot of rain still reading out there. now we'll talk about the sunday rain as well. we'll see you back here in just a minute. ktvu heather holmes joins us now she's in the newsroom with
district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to them commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a...
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district attorney jeff rosen, saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults. who endanger children fully accountable to the law and our community. o'connor who is also known as shannon shannon, braga, is charged with 39 criminal counts, including child abuse, child endangerment, sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors. we have requested to speak with her from jail in idaho but have not heard back. if convicted, she faces jail time and would have to register as a sex offender in the newsroom. heather holmes ktvu fox two news, julie back to you and incredibly long list disturbing list of charges, heather. thank you. adebolajo worthy wind was a big factor in a fire that damaged apartment complex this afternoon. cruise say the fire started about 1 30 this afternoon on panorama drive near 12 street. crusade was first reported as a car fire and in the hot, windy weather that fire quickly spread to the two story apartment building crusade. they got to the scene
district attorney jeff rosen, saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults. who endanger children fully accountable to the law and our community. o'connor who is also known as shannon shannon, braga, is charged with 39 criminal counts, including child abuse, child endangerment, sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors. we have requested to speak with her from jail...
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district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to then commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a dozen teams at her home. both of her kids are now in protective custody and then investigation is ongoing. the victim's families asked for privacy and do not want to speak on the case. o'connor would not return our request for comment. she does remain in jail without bail, and a plea hearing is scheduled for december. 17th. in san jose brooks jarocz ktvu fox two news netflix employees in los angeles staged a walkout today to protest a special by comedian dave chappelle, netflix transgender employee group. says the special is offensive to the transgender community and has the potential to lead to rea
district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to then commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a...
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they didn't assert executive privilege over the emails where it was jeff rosen and others talking about what was happening in the days after the election when trump was trying to have doj over turn the election. so i'm not surprised to say these are extraordinary events that happened and we are not going to block as an institutional matter these records fromming public and helping congress to sort out what happened here. as evan and ryan were just saying, this is all a game about running out the clock in time. so even though the documents could go over and that is going to be, i think, helpful to the committee as they try to really especially put forward the timeline of what happened on january 6, they still need testimony. they still need to find out what was said and done. that is going to require witnesses. those folks are going to delay and refuse to come like bannon and then we're in this game of court and running out that clock. >> and seeing if republicans take back the house and that would be the end of the committee and the investigation. let's talk about steve bannon specifica
they didn't assert executive privilege over the emails where it was jeff rosen and others talking about what was happening in the days after the election when trump was trying to have doj over turn the election. so i'm not surprised to say these are extraordinary events that happened and we are not going to block as an institutional matter these records fromming public and helping congress to sort out what happened here. as evan and ryan were just saying, this is all a game about running out...
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rosen with a loyalist, jeffrey clark to carry out the scheme. >> we were a half step away from a full blown constitutional crisis. >> top leaders at the justice department warned they would resign en masse if he acted as dird white house counsel pat cipollone. a parade of former trump officials are recounting tum's obsession with overturning the election in anti attempted coup. >> he was heightened, and he was so about, this was stolen from us, this was stolen from us. >> we all watched it happening. because it didn't seem to be behind the scenes clandestined in any way, it became normalized. >> many republicans are still defending him. >> the president did the right thing. if he had made another decision, you would have had a problem. >> around the can country trump allies are pushing laws that would allow republican legislators to easily overturn the vote if it doesn't go their way. >> i'm alarmed, most people are alarmed that we're still facing issues of election disinformation. >> this is about going after the integrity of the election system not only in idaho, but as a whole. >>
rosen with a loyalist, jeffrey clark to carry out the scheme. >> we were a half step away from a full blown constitutional crisis. >> top leaders at the justice department warned they would resign en masse if he acted as dird white house counsel pat cipollone. a parade of former trump officials are recounting tum's obsession with overturning the election in anti attempted coup. >> he was heightened, and he was so about, this was stolen from us, this was stolen from us....
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district attorney jeff rosen saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults who endanger children fully accountable to the law. and our community. o'connor is charged with 39 criminal counts, including child abuse, child endangerment, sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors. we have requested to speak with her from jail. but if not heard back if convicted, she could face jail time and would have to register as a sex offender. in the newsroom. i'm brooks jarocz ktvu, fox two news and alameda county judges upheld charges against a former san leandro police officer who shot and killed a man inside a walmart store. jason fletcher is charged with voluntary manslaughter for the death of steven taylor. in april of last year, taylor was accused of shoplifting a baseball bat and using it to threaten customers. prosecutors say fletcher first taste him, then shot him when he refused to drop the bat. steven taylor's family says he was having a mental health crisis. jason
district attorney jeff rosen saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults who endanger children fully accountable to the law. and our community. o'connor is charged with 39 criminal counts, including child abuse, child endangerment, sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors. we have requested to speak with her from jail. but if not heard back if convicted, she could...
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li district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to then commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a dozen teams that are home. both of her kids are now in protective custody and then investigation is ongoing. the victim's families asked for privacy and do not want to speak on the case. o'connor would not return our request for comment. she does remain in jail without bail, and a plea hearing is scheduled for december. 17th. in san jose brooks jarocz ktvu fox two news. let's get back to the weather this new time, steve paulson i saw the briefest flash of sunshine here in oakland's jack london square earlier. about a nanosecond or a little longer. there got nanoseconds like that. there you go. i saw
li district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to then commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a...
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li district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to them commit sexual assaults on one another. hi. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a dozen teams that are home. both of her kids are now in protective custody and then investigation is ongoing. the victim's families asked for privacy and do not want to speak on the case. o'connor would not return our request for comment. she does remain in jail without bail, and a plea hearing is scheduled for december. 17th. in san jose brooks jarocz ktvu, fox two news. and one big area doctor is taking her own advice to get preventative screenings. this isn't something i normally would want to share publicly, but i think this is such an important issue. and so the doctor invites us to her firs
li district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to them commit sexual assaults on one another. hi. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives. when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found...
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li district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to them commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a dozen teams that are home. both of her kids are now in protective custody and then investigation is ongoing. the victim's families asked for privacy and do not want to speak on the case. o'connor would not return our request for comment. she does remain in jail without bail, and a plea hearing is scheduled for december. 17th in san jose brooks jarocz ktvu, fox two news. oakland's guaranteed income program is being expanded to help twice as many people now in need. today, mayor libby schaaf announced phase two of that pilot program it launched earlier this year for 300 randomly selected low income fam
li district attorney jeff rosen says it took enormous courage for these children to come forward, saying they stand in sharp contrast. 20 connor's conduct. there's nothing cool about getting teenage children drug to them commit sexual assaults on one another. someone who does these things. is not cool. apparent that does these things is reckless, irresponsible and criminal. o'connor was extradited tuesday from idaho, where she now lives when deputies arrested her. detectives say they found a...
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district attorney jeff rosen, saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults who endanger children fully accountable to the law. and to our community now o'connor o'connor, who is also known as shannon brugada, is charged with 39 criminal counts, including child abuse, child endangerment. sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors were requested to speak with her from jail in idaho, but have not heard back if convicted, though she faces jail time and would have to register. as a sex offender in the studio. brooks jarocz ktvu, fox two news. brooks. thank you. breaking news now from vallejo curves rain on the scene of a fire at an apartment complex. the fire started about 1 30 this afternoon on panorama drive near to alameda street. crusade began with a car fire and in the hot, windy weather that fire quickly spread to the building, witnesses said. it all happened very fast. it was a vehicle on fire, and then the fire hat went to the next fire. and i mean what'
district attorney jeff rosen, saying it took a lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle this deeply disturbing case as a parent. i'm shocked as a d a. i'm determined to hold those adults who endanger children fully accountable to the law. and to our community now o'connor o'connor, who is also known as shannon brugada, is charged with 39 criminal counts, including child abuse, child endangerment. sexual assault and providing alcohol to minors were requested to speak with her from...
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rosen. the report says then assistant ag jeffrey clark was a key player in the effort to subvert election results -- >> yeah, a key player in sedition against the united states of america and the constitution of the united states of america. >> it also makes the following key findings. in at least nine calls or meetings president trump directly raised discredited claims of election fraud for doj to investigate. white house chief of staff mark meadows asked ag rosen to launch a fraud investigation based on a conspiracy theory about election data -- >> so meadows has this italian man thing. he says some italian dude fixed our elections. i don't know. is it jewish lasers from the west coast? am i mixing qanon conspiracy theories? it's amazing. and assistant ag clark tried to recruit rosen in georgia's certification process in exchange for clark turning down the president's offer to install him as attorney general. >> also trump allies including republican congressman scott perry of pennsylvania
rosen. the report says then assistant ag jeffrey clark was a key player in the effort to subvert election results -- >> yeah, a key player in sedition against the united states of america and the constitution of the united states of america. >> it also makes the following key findings. in at least nine calls or meetings president trump directly raised discredited claims of election fraud for doj to investigate. white house chief of staff mark meadows asked ag rosen to launch a fraud...
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it speaks for itself in terms of what witnesses said including jeff rosen, who according to the report was threatened he would be fired and replaced by someone in the civil division without that expertise which was behind this notion of using the justice department in a way not traditional. it would be a violation of the hatch act to use the power of the federal government to win elections. that is plainly a crime under federal law. secondly, as chuck grassley himself, the irony himself, is 88 years old, has decided to run again for the senate in iowa -- after the january 6 insurrection, he declined to vote to remove donald trump from office. if you recall, the rationale then was not that this was not a problem, it was that it does not make sense in terms of timing because he is no longer in office so we cannot technically remove someone not in office. even republicans did not argue then that his actions were not impeachable. chuck grassley said he lost. it is clear donald trump lost. i'm paraphrasing but that he bullied election officials across the country in that process. that is an
it speaks for itself in terms of what witnesses said including jeff rosen, who according to the report was threatened he would be fired and replaced by someone in the civil division without that expertise which was behind this notion of using the justice department in a way not traditional. it would be a violation of the hatch act to use the power of the federal government to win elections. that is plainly a crime under federal law. secondly, as chuck grassley himself, the irony himself, is 88...
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. >> i thought it was very significant and news worthy, preet, what he said about jeff riff ro rey rosen. who answered questions behind closed doors, but eventually we'll get the public transcript. for eight hours. what was your reaction? >> i think it's very significant. we are right to focus on the people who are going to be instructing and a dating process and not appearing to testify in front of the january 6th committee including steve bannon and others. so that's the glass that's half empty. the glass that's half full is about people like jeffrey rosen and others who are coming forward and probably getting more information than you and i are aware of. and their documents about which president biden is not exerting executive privilege including communications, my guess is that they're pretty substantial and noteworthy and we'll be seeing those. they're going to have gaps that need filling in over the course of time. get someone like, put in place, someone like steve bannon to testify. we'll see. but they are still going to have some substantial evidence-b bas on testimony and docume
. >> i thought it was very significant and news worthy, preet, what he said about jeff riff ro rey rosen. who answered questions behind closed doors, but eventually we'll get the public transcript. for eight hours. what was your reaction? >> i think it's very significant. we are right to focus on the people who are going to be instructing and a dating process and not appearing to testify in front of the january 6th committee including steve bannon and others. so that's the glass...
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rosen's testimony. jeffrey clark has been subpoenaed. we though about what jeffrey clark said and did in terms of how it impacted mr. rosen. we know there was an attempt for clark the replays rosen. they walked in and threatened to quit along with members of the counsel's office. we don't know specificity how vast the conversations were between mr. trump and clark. >> i think it is hard for people who don't work in the justice department to understand how egregious clark's behavior was. he was out on his own conducting sort of investigations into alleged voter fraud, both of which he has no jurisdiction over and without his superiors knowing he was doing it. he was talking directly with the white house w the president, which he's not allowed to do under department of justice rules. and he was talking with at least one republican member of congress, which he's also not allowed to do under justice department rules. he was violating multiple justice department policies in an attempt to overturn the election. to your point, we only know the
rosen's testimony. jeffrey clark has been subpoenaed. we though about what jeffrey clark said and did in terms of how it impacted mr. rosen. we know there was an attempt for clark the replays rosen. they walked in and threatened to quit along with members of the counsel's office. we don't know specificity how vast the conversations were between mr. trump and clark. >> i think it is hard for people who don't work in the justice department to understand how egregious clark's behavior was....