charles krauthammer. joining me now daniel krauthammer. charles' son himself a writer. great to see you. >> so good to see you too, bret. >> bret: such a great time when we do this every year now and to see emmet choose history, at least so far and grace choose psychiatry, both things that your dad just loved. >> yeah. no, it's incredibly appropriate, i think, in so many ways. you know, that my father was so passionate about learning. not only that but saw it as a duty that's what everyone should do is take it to the fullest. and the fact that emmet is history and grace psychiatry i couldn't think of two subjects closer to my father's heart. he would joke sometimes when young students ask woo ask him how do you get to this point of being a renowned journalist first you go to medical school. in all seriousness he thought that education really taught him something about what happened. makes life worth living. and then it was he saw what could put all those things that mattered at risk, which is politics gone wrong. and i think he would be very proud for these two rising s

the same thing krauthammer could do. there would be people around the table, and when krauthammer starts talking, you go like this. hmm. that's what it's lieks like when tyrus talks. krauthammer could do it, tyrus can do it. sometimes i can do it. brian: when you read his book, did you know the type of upbringing he had? >> i knew parts of it. but there were some things that were shocking to me that i didn't know about. it was amazing that he wrote about it. and so funny things in there. but i had three older sisters, so he he was talking about guys dating his mother, i' couldn't understand that kind of thing. there are good eggs and bad eggs. when they are in your house they are rotten eggs. >> i knew gutfeld read the book. when he likes something, i will get a text. he said i had a craig, too. he's under playing himself sometimes. one of the things that helped me was being under the tree of someone like greg. it never know where greg is coming from. you know better than anyone, what starts out as a compliment end morab

back in september of 2013 after a mass shooting, the late charles krauthammer identify the problem. we have a lot of mentally ill people and we need to stop ignoring them. obviously we've ignored that warning, so here it is again. >> he needed help. 30 years ago the cops would have brought him to a psychiatric emergency room, he probably would have gotten antipsychotics that he probably would have been hospitalized for a couple of weeks. that's the way it was done in the '70s when i practiced psychiatry, but today that doesn't happen. the cops left, he was left on his own, he was a man who shouldn't have been on his own, he should have had the state looking after him, and he ended up killing people. look, you want to respect the civil liberties of everybody, but there is a point in which if you don't take control of people who are clearly out of touch with reality, you are damaging them, exposing them, and of course tragically exposing a lot of innocents around them. >> tucker: yeah, exactly. this stuff is complicated. the human mind is complicated, and if the environment changes, s

charles krauthammer had a terrific piece he wrote after the sandy hook shooting. i wish he was still with us. it talks about a culture of violence and how we have broken things down and we cannot pretend those things don't matter. >> judge jeanine: okay. let's take a listen to the texas department of public safety director and what he said earlier. i'll get back to you. speak with the benefit of hindsight, where i am sitting now of course it wasn't the right decision. it was the wrong decision, period. no excuse for it. i wasn't there but i'm telling you from what we know, we believe there should've been an entry as soon as you can. >> the chief of police, he was convinced. i want to go back and say he was convinced at the time that there was no more threat to the children and the subject was barricaded and they had time to organize with the proper equipment. >> texas embraces and teaches the active shooter doctrine as long as there's kids, as long as someone is firing, you go to the gun. find him and neutralize him. >> judge jeanine: the active shooter doctrine,

here's charles krauthammer pointing that outha. we t had a decade of that assaut weapons ban from the mid 90s, lasted for a decade. and if you look at the studies had no appreciable influenceen on gun violence or the lethality of individual attacks. and there are three elements here. again, it's the shooter, it's t the web and it'shes the environment and all that liberals are mainstream media want to look atnm, of course, is the weapon.po are but there are other ways of looking at this . if you look at the shooteren himself and the mental health issue, the fact that you cannota get a commitment on these kinds of people, i'm thinking most of jared loughner, the shooter in tucson, arizona, everybody knew he was a grenade about to go off. who anybody who knew him was was in class with him said that . but you could only stop him after he killed in this charlest eric foxuc ryan kleckner is a lawyer and a former army ranger is thought a lot was abot this .r coming he joins us tonight. ryan, thanks so much on. for cog on . so dumb people

the same thing that krauthammer could do. people around the table. everyone kind of starts going like this. that is what happens whenever tyrus talks. everyone in the room goes like this. okay. now i have to look at it a different way. i did not look at it like that before. sometimes i can do it, but, i mean. [laughter] >> when you read his book, did you know the type of upbringing he had? >> i knew parts of it, but there were some things that were absolutely shocking to me i did not know about. it was amazing that he wrote about it. just some really funny things in their. i had three older sisters. what he was talking about, guys dating his mother, i could understand that sort of thing. they are a eggs and they are bad eggs. when they are in your house, it is rotten eggs. >> i knew he read the book because whenever you like something i'll get a text. he will literally be like i had that, too. [laughter] good morning. okay. cool. when a spot hits him. he is underplaying himself sometimes. one of the things for me that really helped me was being under

olivia beavers professional reporter for politico and josh krauthammer hour is the politics editor for national journal. josh, what did you make of that. obviously, there were a lot of -- part 2 of the interview tomorrow and gets into some of the more specifics about some of the different operations that he oversaw but listening to the former defense secretary talk about his time and talk about this book is interesting. >> yeah. i mean, esper is one of many former trump officials who have made the argument that they were themselves indispensable for saving american democracy. clearly there are a lot of other folks of like mind serving in the administration but the tension between sticking around as secretary of defense and, you know, there was a contradiction there that you pointed out, bret. i thought his answer was quite interesting. the biggest political worry a lot of republicans have if trump runs for president again is that he won't have those establishment oriented figures serving with him. that there won't be espers, there won't be jim mattiss around him. and that's probably th

charles krauthammer, i had him on the panel and he talked at length about that. this is just a piece of that. take a listen. >> i understand this reflexive move to do this in principle i'm not opposed to it. the problem is we have some history with this. we had a decade of that assault weapons ban from the mid 1990s, it lasted for a decade and if you look at the studies had no appreciable influence on gun violence or the legality of individual attacks. it's the shooter, the weapon, the environment. and although liberals only want to look at, of course, is the weapon. there are other things to look at. if you look at the shooter himself and the mental health issue' the fact that you cannot get a commitment on these kinds of people, i'm thinking most of jared laughner, the shooter in tucson, arizona, everybody knew he was a grenade about to go off. anybody who knew him was in class with him said that but you could only stop him after he killed. and we have moved so radically last 50 years to making it difficult to commit people who are dangerous that there has to b

charles krauthammer wrote a really eloquent piece after sandy hook almost 10 years ago. and, you know, i commend it to people. i tweeted it out and put it on facebook. he said, you know, after every mass shooting it comes down to three things. it comes down to the killer, the weapon, and the cultural climate and depending on where you are, you gravitate to one of those three things. we, as a country, have to figure out how we can deal with all of that. to make sure that these things don't happen again. but they are happening. and we are the country that it happens to the most. rachel: yeah, it is fascinating. bret, we just had on a forensic psychologist dr. helen smith who talked about some of the things that are brewing and especially with young men curly and how can you recall --culturally andt you talk about talking about all the way back to columbine the lesson is you run towards the fire and you breach those doors and you get in and you take down the killer. president trump broached this topic yesterday when he spoke at the nra conference. one of the things that he