ms. pangestu: that is a great question. the loss of human capital, we can put a number to it, as i said. it is about 10% of world gdp. it is a huge economic loss. where does it come through? it comes through lower productivity. you have a lower capacity, that leads to lower growth for your economy and the ability for you to diversify your economy also becomes lower, especially as economies have to go digital or go to new areas of development. i have been on visits to countries and skill shortage is a definite issue that countries are facing. haidi: we know women and children particularly in disadvantaged countries and situations were adversely affected by these pandemic losses. what does the data tell us about the pace of recovery if you split it down by gender? ms. pangestu: we know women were more impacted because they lost jobs, they were more likely to lose jobs, they were more likely to be affected anti-stay home and take care of children. they were also more impacted because of health services for women as well as chi