and popovich said he realized that night how white his life had been that he'd never really. even though he played ball with black guys. he never really known black guys and he made it a point to try to understand and he told me that he's told his players on different occasions if i were black. i'd have gone to jail a number of times because of the way. police have dealt with him and steve, you know steve. he's just one of the bright guys out there. he also is a popovich the disciple and he said that he went on a reading spree to try to understand better what it's like to be black and it one of his assistant coaches told them that he was watching the news one night, um after the the amato aubrey shooting and his eight year old son walked in and he didn't realize he was there and his son turned him and said dad does this mean we can't run in our neighborhood because that's how i'm out aubrey got murdered and he realized oh my god, i mean i've never had to deal with that with my kids. and and plus anybody who's a father. a black father has to give their kids the talk about deal

popovich said he had his first experience with understanding when he was in college at the air force academy playing in north carolina went to a club. everybody was in line and they got to the frontline of the bouncer looked at the three guys and he looked at the black guy and he said you can't come in here. again they were in colorado and greg had grown up outside of chicago. would you talking about he can't come in? popovich said he realized that night how his life had been that he never really he never had known a black guy guy and he made it a point to try to understand and he told me he is told his players on different occasions if i were black i would have gone to jail a number of times because of the way the police adult with him. and steve, you know steve. he's one of the brightest guys out there and ease of popovich disciple and he said he went on a reading spree to try to understand better what it's like to be black and one of his assistant coaches told him that he was watching the news one night after the ahmaud arbery shooting in his 8-year-old son walked in and his son t

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gregg popovich, the basketball coach from texas, same deal. he's aware of everything. he's aware of everything culturally and politically. and he participates in it because he has a voice that people listen to. i think the more that athletes talk about things that everyone else talks about, i think it's helpful to the nation because they are unfortunately -- and i don't mean that malevolently, they're role models for a lot of people. what they say has more impact than any commercial we show or any political speech given by a politician. >> yeah, steve kerr, as you mentioned, the golden state warrior's head coach spoke to passionate. he'll command a significant spotlight in the days ahead as his golden state warriors face the boston celtics in the nba finals to start on thursday. mike barnicle, thank you so much for being with us today. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," president biden and the first lady departed mass a short time ago. they attended st. joseph on the brandy wine in greenville, delaware, a short drive from his home. today, memorial day, also marks seven