brad raffensperger has security because of his job. his daughter-in-law doesn't and his daughter-in-law had a home invasion where she's a widow with young children. we're talking about physical menacing of elected officials but even worse as tim points out of people like shaye moss who have no protection whatsoever. her mom had to leave her home, had to move out of her home. i mean, what does this portend for 2022? know you're doing a lot of work on what's going to happen in georgia. there's big elections that trump really cares about coming up in that state. what's the mood? what's the temperature down there going forward? >> yeah, i mean, january 6th to your point could also have been a dark day for shaye moss' mother had she not left the house as the officials advised her to do on that day because there could have been violence at her home that day. you know, i think the -- what this means going forward, again, shaye moss and ruby freeman will not be poll workers in upcoming elections because of the chilling effect this had on her a

it wasn't shea moss or lady ruby or brad raffensperger or bowers. we heard from professional vote scammers, former president trump and rudy giuliani, people involved in surreptitious, questionable activity. and it wasn't the four people i named. it is the former president and rudy giuliani. you look at shea moss, she was not a professional speaker, she was nervous, she did not want to be there, and she gave such compelling testimony about how she loved her job. she loved going to work and helping older people vote. she loved giving -- >> she would drive to give people absentee ballots in the zero-tolerance policy she loved giving out business cards so they could call her and ask information. that's what our election system is filled with, people like her across the country that make sure our elections are free and fair. i was deputy secretary of state in arkansas. we had people in our elections division just like her that woke up every day doing their constitutional duty to execute free and fair elections, and it's a darn shame that she was chased o

because here, will be heard from the hearing today in particularly from brad raffensperger was what he has already likely testified from almost exactly and an ongoing investigation in georgia. we know that a local da there and paneled a grand jury back in may, he testified under oath there about possible violations of georgia law, of election law in georgia, maybe even racketeering statutes in georgia. and we got a window into what had already gone on there. and i think that is very important because we talked a lot about federal charges, but state charges against donald trump in many ways are not burdened by many of the heavy questions on the justice department right now. >> but what takes so long? if i walk down to the studio and i walk to saxon avenue right now, and shoplifted. i would be arrested immediately, and i would be downtown facing consequences within hours. it has been 17 months since we heard from brad raffensperger, or since we heard that phone call, in the span of that time, those poll workers have been terrorized. he had time to write this in a book, publish it, and go

witnesses include the georgia republican secretary of state brad raffensperger. today's coverage of the january six committee and all of c-span's coverage is brought to you as a public service. where all of this morning in the cannon house office building waiting for today's january six hearings york began, it is scheduled for about nine minutes from now at 9 pm eastern time. today is questioning will be led by down credit committee member adam schiff. he has represented california's 28 district for 11 terms and also says on the house judiciary committee. he participated in both impeachment proceedings against former president donald trump as an impeachment manager. he was most in attorney and a prosecutor for serving in congress. today the committee will hear from four witnesses, russell bowers, speaker of the arizona house of representatives, brad raffensperger, georgia secretary of state, gabriel sterling, ceo of the georgia secretary of state's office, all republicans. and a former georgia elections department employee who served in a nonpartisan position. to

that you know, brad raffensperger or somebody gave over to the authorities. but you see this constellation of criminal conduct, false electors, false court challenges by rudy giuliani, the weaponization of the department of justice via jeffrey clark, fake electors an attack on the capital, delayed certification. it really is a remarkable constellation of criminal conduct. >> all right, glenn, here's why a lot of people don't buy it. we heard that tape of trump and raffensperger, find 11,000 votes, what was it like, two years ago. and he hasn't faced any consequences. why do you think he will now? >> you know what, steph? nobody can accuse the department of justice of delivering timely accountability. that has been a sticking point for so many of us. so many of the american people who see this criminal conduct, you know, happening in plain sight, in the harsh light of day. that's why these public hearings by the january six committee are really important. they're pulling it together. they are distilling it. they're making it informative, entertaining, and comp

how important is brad raffensperger as a witness tomorrow? >> rafensperger is important not only for the witness and the public opinion, because it's in georgia that everything comes to a head an an audiotape. it's been a long time, andrea, since we listened to that tape. i remember the first time i heard it, it was astonishing. it's clear from the tone of the president's comments that he's ultimately threatening and cajoing raffensperger to get engaged. in a crime. and bonnie willis, the district attorney in fulton county is clearly engaged. she's got a grand jury taking testimony right now but there are also possible federal crimes, there's conspiracy to violate federal rights and some very specific charges around failing to count legitimate votes and failing to certify false votes. lots of good information coming from brad raffensperger and his deputy tomorrow. >> and von, former president trump is showing zero signs of regret about the attack. and he's shaming them on the committee and attacking mike pence again in nashville friday. let's

mainly the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, who you heard from today. and i'm told that despite what you saw today, which was the committee playing clips of that call with claims from trump saying thousands of ballots had been shredded or thousands of dead people had voted, and then flashing to raffensperger saying that's not true, we checked that out. that's also not true. trump has continued to defend that call. he has said it was a perfect call. he has told people he assumed it was being recorded. there were attorneys on the line as they were in this hour-lawn call where he alternated between asking for raffensperger to find these votes, thinly veiled threatening him when it came to certain pushback on claims he was making, and despite the fact you heard from them talking about the harassment that not just they faced but their families faced and you heard from raffensperger saying his daughter-in-law was one of those people. despite that, trump has continued to defend his call and stand up for it and believed it was the right call, a perfect call, an

that is a number trump told georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger he needed to overturn biden's victory in georgia. what, today raffensperger explained in plain english for the whole world to see, exactly why trump lost that state. >> what happened in fall of 2020 is that 28,000 georgians skipped the presidential race, and yet they voted down ballot in other races. and the republican congressman ended up getting 33,000 more votes than president trump. and that's why president trump came up short. the numbers are the numbers, the numbers don't lie. we had many allegations and we investigated every single one of them. >> that's a damning burn right there. people showed up to vote, and they showed up to vote for republicans, just not him. trump attendee general, bill barr, also gave the committee private testimony about there being no voter fraud in georgia, and he says they made sure, he made sure the president knew it. >> we took a look a hard look ourselves, and based on our review on its, including the interviews of the key witnesses, the fulton county allegations were, had no

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we have that tape donald trump pressuring brad raffensperger. in your opinion, you don't think that is going to be enough? >> i think that is enough. if you are asking which of the cases right now, which one is going to send donald trump to prison, that is the case. there is a really neat three year felony in georgia, that donald trump has violated. prosecutors love tape recorded evidence. because you cannot cross-examined it. what is significant though, with those cases, is that when you put in the context of all of the evidence that's the january six committee has uncovered. when you put that together, donald trump has zero defense in georgia. if i had to put my money on one prosecution that is going to go forward here, that will send donald trump to jail, it is georgia. no question about it. the only defense that he has got here is trying to somehow pick up on some ambiguity in the tape, that he did not really mean what he said. but once you look at what he said, trying to get brad raffensperger to come up with extra votes to make him a winne

i put it in my book and spent some time trying to tease out what it looked like if brad raffensperger would have stepped in front of a microphone for ten seconds and spread doubt about where the election was going to head or what the security of that election was. or a governor kemp would have alluded to some sort of fraud or geoff duncan would have stood up and said we should call a special session just because the sitting president wants us to. it would have created complete chaos. the 1/2 2 1/2 million votes in georgia would have been nullified and millions of votes around the country. we were elected to follow the constitution and to follow the law. it didn't work out for us. we have time to regroup and figure out a better pathway forward. i think these january 6th hearings are going to be a true launching pad for a gop 2.0. a different direction, a better direction that's a better competitor to a joe biden agenda that's quite honestly failing america. >> secretary raffensperger spoke about threats that he received, his wife received, his daughter-in-law's home was broken into, hi

raffensperger with allegation and brad raffensperger sitting today would go through factually why it was completely made up. one of those moments, trump alleging five thousand dead people voted, then more than 10,000, and secretary raffensperger says today we checked and it was two. by the way, i update everybody, we kept checking and guess what, it ended up that there were four. not 10,315. these are the facts. do they change anyone's minds? >> i have watched the hearings and i have found just more and more evidence that trump's tre attempt to overturn the result in some states, there weren't isolated incidents. it was wide-spread, widespread. and to get back to the comments that some people, they just continue to stay baked in. it's because at some point, they have to come to the realization that they were duped and that's difficult for them to get through and to get past, but ultimately, i do think, thank goodness we had some brave republicans. mike pence, we can't take away what he did. we can't diminish what he did. his commitment to the rule of law prevailed. and, it kept our r

raffensperger —— brad raffensperger, in which donald trump pleaded with him to find the votes needed to secure victory. donald trump lost both the states of georgia and arizona but perhaps the most heartrending evidence today came from a mother and daughter who were both junior election officials in the state of georgia and one of them, ruby freeman, the mother said you know how it feels to have the president of the united states target you? the president of the us is supposed to represent every american, not target one. david, testimonies _ not target one. david, testimonies have - not target one. david, | testimonies have been not target one. david, - testimonies have been piling up against donald trump and his team. what have we heard so far from team trump and the kind of reactions to the hearing so far? ~ ., , far? well, donald trump continues _ far? well, donald trump continues to _ far? well, donald trump continues to dismiss - far? well, donald trump l continues to dismiss these hearings as a political witch—hunt and he has been fiercely critical, issuing statements even be

and brad raffensperger, who we'll hear tomorrow, has testified. and gabriel sterling, the second witness, has testified. and that hall olivia talked about is so key. i listened to it. we've all heard that snippet, i need you to find -- it's 62 minutes long. olivia's right. when you listen to it, it is alarming. donald trump is browbeating brad raffensperger. he is attacking him personally. he threatens him. he says at one point, i'm telling you there's fraud, and if you don't do anything about it, you might be committing a crime. it is serious. it is frightening. and it reminds us that the people that stood up to donald trump, raffensperger, sterling, many others, these are state and local politicians, and they're republicans, and they said absolutely not. >> you know, and raffensperger survived politically. i think that is also an important thing about the political context of these hearings that, you know, they tried very hard, trump and his most die-hard supporters to take him out at the next election. he was thought to be just a dead man walki

he heard him talk to brad raffensperger. that is criminal pressure on a public official to interfere with the result of an election. they see fit to issue some other criminal indictment or criminal charges against the former president. that is the bottom line people are waiting for. >> russia has threatened lithuania with serious consequences. dominik and has more from the german capital of berlin. >> this is the main port. its facilities are important to the russian economy. this is the only all your around port the country has on the baltic sea. many products essential for the local population come by c. many more come by land. >> i think not only me, many people are planning it out. correct those sanctions target specific items in the transit eu territory. >> those sanctioned goods will no longer be allowed to transit. it is being done with european commissions and under the european commission guidelines. >> this is an historical anomaly . they became part of the wider ussr. but when the country died, the russian federat

>> reporter: well, we caught brad raffensperger as he was going in. he said he hopes it will be short in front of the grand jury today. i think that's unlikely. he was subpoenaed for his testimony and also subpoenaed for documents and a you look at the list of the documents they wanted, good indication of what they want to ask him about. any writings of that now infamous call between him and donald trump, any phone logs between his office as well as donald trump, any of the results to audit the recall recounts that show that joe biden won the state of georgia, an audit of the dominion voting equipment, and a transcript of this bennett hearing where rudy giuliani appeared before the panel. this shows you they're going to dive into the call, they're going to dive into donald trump's efforts to try to pressure raffensperger to overturn the results of the election. they'll go far beyond that. safe to say it is go ing to be long day in there for brad raffensperger. raffensperger is testifying today. they also received a number of other officials from his o

today we'll hear from brad raffensperger, target of that infamous phone call with then president trump who was looking for enough votes to give him the win. gabe sterling who you may remember warned amid threats over georgia's 2020 recount someone would get killed. rusty bowers, rudy giuliani called him about switching out biden electors. bowers said he also told former president trump he wouldn't break the law. georgia election worker shaye moss who was accused by the former president of bringing in suitcases of ballots. we'll have new information about the growing number of threats against members of congress. among them adam kinzinger. he tweeted out a letter where someone threatened to execute him, his wife and their 5-month-old baby. he shared this morning. >> there is violence in the future. i'm going to tell you. until we get a grip on telling people the truth, we can't expect any differently. >> threats seem to have made their way into the 2022 election season republican senator candidate from missouri, eric greitens announced a new ad saying he's going, quote, rino hunting. an

we know what they said, but look what brad raffensperger had to do in 2020. take called from the then president of the united states, defy him, and then publicly stand up for himself in the face of threats to himself and his family. that took a lot of courage. and we should note he is a republican, so it's not as though any republican holding one of these offices would necessarily go down this road, but it underscores the importance of spotlighting exactly what you're spotlighting today, which is these jobs that seem esoteric and outside of what normal americans even voters would normally worry about. they are that important. >> talk about the research on how voters perceive the republican brand, because obviously, the effect of people like bannon on a party that includes people like mitt romney and brad raffensperger can be profound. >> i think voters are really ahead of i think recognizing that this party has changed. and steve bannon actually said it himself. maga is now in charge of the republican party. they have taken over. and there's two really core e

brad raffensperger case and point. and then the alternate slate of electors and his scheme that the campaign is also trying to implement and execute, in battleground straits states that the former president lost, in order to bring in a new state slate of electors. but i think from brad raffensperger, he also fits into the scheme and theme that we have seen reoccurring. one of the people who courageously stood up to the former president, even though it was not politically expedient or popular. and essentially refused to do his bidding. in his request to overturn the results of the election. i think that we are also going to see quite a bit of video from potential trump campaign officials. and people who were also looking to try to apply that pressure as well. who were in the states, actually trying to do this crazy witch hunt for these actual affidavits, is with the referred to the mass. to find evidence of election fraud. and, then again, back to the ultimate slates of electors. i'm very curious to see. we don't know y

. >> that was former president trump calling georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger days before the insurrection, pressuring him to find the votes needed to win georgia. 11,780. raffensperger is one of three republicans testifying today. the other two are raffensperger's top deputy, gabe sterling and arizona house speaker rusty bowers who says trump and rudy giuliani called him after the election asking for help to overturn president biden's victory in his state. we're also going to hear from shay moss, a former georgia elections worker. she and her mother were targeted in a debunked voter fraud conspiracy pushed by giuliani, trump and others. moss says she received death threats because of the false accusations. democratic congressman adam schiff will lead today's hearing. last night, he gave a preview of what we can expect during an interview with our rachel maddow. >> you will hear about the pressure campaign directed at state legislators, at state election officials, even at local elections workers, putting their lives very much at risk, and this was i think very unprecedent

and at one point donald trump even seems to threaten brad raffensperger with criminal liability. i'm telling you there's fraud and if you don't act on it you may be committing a crime. it will be fascinating when we hear brad raffensperger testify to give his perspective on that call. but i think that call itself is crucial evidence that the committee and potentially prosecutors will be looking at. >> yeah, i totally agree. we'll be hearing more of that and, wow, i can't believe you went back and listened to all of it. why you are such a great attorney and why we love having you on the show. looking ahead to the supreme court, more opinions expected tuesday and thursday, 18 cases remain. but the spotlight, of course, is on roe v. wade. what do we expect to see this week? >> yeah, pam, so 18 cases left on the docket. they've been releasing four to six opinions on each of the decisions days. we should have half of those this week. two big ones, by far the biggest is the dobbs case which, as you say, we've seen the draft opinion. if that holds, it will reverse roe v. wade changing t

so we expect that brad raffensperger is going to have a lot to share with this grand jury today. and, remember, their work is just getting started. he is one of the first if not the first witness that they are going to be hearing from. we expect they are going to hear from a number of other officials from the secretary of state's office as well as the state's attorney general. john? >> sara murray, you are there for us. let us know what you hear. thank you so very much. >>> ukraine declaring victory on the football field, a victory that brings them one step closer to the world cup. this was just incredible the emotional game for that team and that country. >>> plus just days after multiple mass shootings a gunman kills four people at a hospital complex. we have more on the news out of tulsa, oklahoma, next. >>> and queen elizabeth celebrating 70 years on the throne. more than any other british monarch. now her platinum jup lee celebration is under way. we are live at buckingham palace ahead. okay season 6! aw... this'll take forev—or not. do i just focus on when things don't wo

raffensperger. naomi ruchim joins us. >> reporter: good morning. after conducting more than 1,000 interviews and collecting more than 140,000 documents, the committee is still widening its investigation. today they'll argue former president trump attempted to coerce local officials to change the results of the election. today the january 6th house select committee will shift attention to a state level pressure campaign aimed at blocking biden joe biden's white house election victory. it will examine an alleged scheme to get electors in key battleground states to use and stop the transfer of power. panel aides say they'll show president trump was warned of a risk of violence but pursued the efforts anyway. >> we'll show evidence of the president's involvement in this scheme. >> reporter: congressman adam schiff will lead today's hearing, which will focus largely on georgia and arizona. among key witnesses, arizona house speaker, rusty bowers, who says president trump asked him to change the state's l

brad raffensperger and gabriel sterling. they stood up to trump's pressure campaign. they obviously received a lot of praise for that, but despite acknowledging that there was no fraud in the 2020 election, both men, still supported voter restrictions and suppression, basically in their state. do you think we should let them off the hook for that? how do you explain it in a broader context of the republican party, that even in these moments where somebody like mike pence set up to the president on january the 6th, and the rest of the time he's been basically bearing his hand in the sand and going along -- before the january 6th insurrection, the big lie, and everything else about january 6th since then. >> i think you raise a dilemma. it's a good point. i think on the other hand, i think that would he did with regards to the 2020 election was brave big. basically, explaining that the elections were free and fair in georgia. i think that where he has none since then, obviously, has been politically expedient. he managed to survive a primary against the trump backed can

we will see brad raffensperger testify about this amazing event. the president of the united states calling up and saying, i need you to find 11,000 more votes. just one more than he needed to win. right? to me, you can infer intent. from that, he wasn't saying please take a look. i think there was a problem here. let's take it to the bottom of this. he was saying finally the exact numbers of votes i need. or you might be in trouble, is when he added. that seems corrupt at its core. otherwise, i do think there was a lot of complexity to bringing a case against donald trump. you have to wonder if the case was -- and he managed to be acquitted, what that would mean for our political discourse. >> i want you all to listen to congressman jamie raskin. in this sound, he's talking about trump's ongoing lack of remorse in the time since the insurrection. take a listen. >> yeah, he essentially said, yes i did it. i would do it again. which is what we've been contending all along, that if you allow impunity for attempts at unconstitutional caesars of power,

georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger and his deputy appeared before the committee, as well as an election worker who became a target of personal tax by the former president. >> they select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol will be in order. without objection, the chair is authorized to declare they committee in recess at any point. chairman thompson: good afternoon. at our last hearing, we told the story of a scheme driven by donald trump to pressure former vice president mike pence to illegally overturn the election results. we showed that when that pressure campaign failed and mike pence fulfilled his constitutional obligations, donald trump turned a violent mob loose on him. we showed that the mob came within roughly forty feet of the vice president. mob loose on him. he showed that the mob came within roughly 40 feet of the vice president. today we will show what happened to mike pence was not an isolated part of donald trump's scheme to overturn the election. in fact, pressuring public servants into betraying their oaths was a

and when you're talking about brad raffensperger's daughter who's a widow at home with her kids, then having somebody invade the home. you're talking about shaye moss grandmother, have people beat down harder, and say we are making a citizens arrest. in georgia, a black woman, that sounds like a lynching party. i mean, it was shocking to hear the level of violence that trump was willing to meet out from all the way to pence, all the way down to shaye moss. he wanted violence, anything. this is called fascism. >> well and to that point, one of the occurring things we signed the last, hearing and was on this, hearing i thought you're interim there about pressure campaign was really athlete done. that you keep having these interactions where the people on the receiving end of the trump arguments are like, these are bad arguments. people on the trump end, are like, we are not really making arguments. and there they fundamentally keeping like, well sir, i looked at that fact and it doesn't matter. we'll set that argument doesn't scan. that there doesn't work. again, and again, these lawyer

there are very, very few mike bowers or brad raffensperger�*s in the republican party today. men who would stand up to donald trump and say, of no, i will not cheat, i will not give you the selection, i'll not violate my oath of office or the constitution, or violate state and federal law to illegally pretend that you've won this election and declare that to be the case." but also give you a window into the kind of intimidation and threats, and the violence that are inherent in the trump republican movement today against everyone, from the individuals themselves in high office to folks like shea and ruby, who were revealed to have been intimidated and threatened. these are people who you never would've heard their names, you never would have known who they were, they were anonymous state election workers and volunteers who, when they didn't do what the trump organisation wanted, became the target of death threats and a smear campaign. and this tendency to violence and threats, this tendency to use the social media amplification method that trump has to harm people is definiti

the secretary of state for georgia, brad raffensperger, also detailed a series of false claims made by the trump campaign. our north america editor sarah smith has this report. onjanuary 6th, donald trump was still repeating what he knew to be lies about the election. the mysterious vote dump of up to 100,000 votes forjoe biden. almost none for trump — oh, that sounds fair! - committee members today heard from an official that trump had called days before, alleging fraud in georgia. we found two dead people, when i wrote my letter to congress, that's dated january 6th, and subsequent to that, we found two more — that's four people, not 4,000, just a total of four. all the fraud allegations had been investigated and dismissed. but still, donald trump asked him to find the exact number of votes he needed to beatjoe biden. what i knew is that we didn't have any votes to find. we had to continually look, we investigated — i could've shared the numbers with you. there were no votes to find. the result of donald trump's attempts to illegally overturn the election result have now been b

donald trump, brad raffensperger, just a few days before january 6th. this is how the sitting president tried to twist his arm to get him to mess around with the vote tallies. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> yeah, right. just one more. it wasn't really about a legitimate election or election integrity. it was just about messing with the results and trying to steal a victory. the committee, the january 6th select committee says this is so much bigger than just one day january 6th but it's so much more. they say this was a multi-step, multi-state and they call it an attempted coup. >> we continue to hear from republican officials, a host of republicans telling this story in their own ways. >> all three of these guys testifying on tuesday they're all republicans. they're all conservatives. they all endorsed donald trump in 2020 and voted for donald trump in 2020, but they wouldn't cross the rubicon. they wouldn't violate their oath. they stood up for the ru

where he essentially tried to bully georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, a republican, into finding him more than 11,000 votes that simply did not exist. nbc news confirmed that today, mr. raffensperger himself testified to the grand jury, in the afternoon. according to georgia public broadcasting, he was there for four hours, much to discuss, i guess. so, to be clear, that grand jury has the tape of the call, and they have now heard from the primary witness. i for one can see why president trump, former president trump, might be a bit nervous. joining us now is barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, and current professor at the university of michigan school of law. barbara, thanks so much for being with us tonight. most major criminal probes that we've covered in the past seem to have called on most important witnesses to testify close to last. why do you think they called reference raffensperger in the grand jury's first week. >> well, although he is an important witness, he's likely to be a friendly witness. the witnesses that you migh

might that also be the case with the day in which we'll hear brad raffensperger testify? should we be looking for that? >> i think it will. i mean, obviously some of the information has been in public, some we've discovered through our investigations. so stay tuned for the hearing next tuesday. >> all right. that's what we call a tease, obviously. it sounds as though we will be getting some new information. can you confirm what a source is telling cnn that in addition to the georgia election officials, arizona's house speaker rusty bowers will also testify about the pressure he faced from trump -- >> that's my understanding. that's my understanding. >> what do you hope to hear from him? >> well, the truth. you know, these individuals are republicans, they voted for trump. they are, you know, supported him, but they wouldn't do illegal things that he asked them to do. so we expect to hear, in some detail, about the pressure that was placed on them and why they were true to the law instead of the pressure. >> and speaking of officials that we would like to hear from at thes

when trump called georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and told him he needed told overturn the biden n and when trump's lawyer rudy the republican led legislature in georgia and told them they needed to overturn theth election, the claims that would justify those radical steps, all centered on a video clip that trump and company insisted showed the election being stolen right thereec on the tape. they said they had video of electionai workers in atlanta, black i election workers naturally, african american workers, they said the video showed themrs stuffing suitcases full of illicit ballots. and they accused those election workers by name of stealing the election. committing crimes. on that call was georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, trumpet brought one particular election worker by name, 18 times. >>> he used her name 18 times a professional vote scammer and all of the suitcases and the fraud and trumpes played that supposedlyha incriminating vide tape at a massive jumbotron at a rally in georgia and said it showed a crime, but it showed nothing of the sort, it

brad raffensperger has even written a book about that interaction. what's less clear are the actions taken to pressure the united states including pressure from senator lindsey graham of south carolina to toss mail-in ballots and there could be other revelations and there's value, frankly, in reminding people of the phone call, putting that part of a broader package that the investigators are putting together to show that the effort of donald trump to overturn georgia's election. >> and the broader package is what we will be seeing tomorrow. what about the attempts on state officials? >> they're not just interested, of course, in his pressure campaign against mike pence, which they laid out in very minute detail last week, but they are looking to explain to people this was a nationwide effort, it targeted a whole host of officials and something not just trump himself but many close allies were involved in. we've seen the justice department now bring charges against peter navarro who was a senior adviser to president trump. one of the things the selec

calling brad raffensperger 18 times to set up the phone call where he pressed the election official to find the votes needed. why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, brad, instead of keep saying the numbers are right. the real truth is i won by 400,000 votes at least. >> every single allegation we checked. we ran down the rabbit trail to make sure our numbers were accurate. >> reporter: raffensperger described the threats against him and his family after he disputed trump's fraud claims. >> my wife started getting texts. her typically came in a sexualized text which were disgusting. some people broke into my daughter if law's home. my son has passed and she's a widow and has two kids. so we're very concerned about her safety, also. >> reporter: shaye moss testifying about the threats she, her mother and son received because of donald trump's persistent lies. >> like be glad it's 2020 and not 1920. i just feel like it was my fault for putting my family in this situation. >> reporter: her mother saying her life was in danger. >> the fbi informed me i needed to leave my home for s

among those scheduled to testify this time around is georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. you may remember donald trump tried to pressure brad raffensperger to, quote, find enough votes for him in the 2020 election. >> notably not expected to appear is former white house council pat cipollone. officials say he helped prevent trump from taking more questionable steps regarding the election. meantime, former trump adviser peter navarro has pleaded not guilty to contempt of congress charges. >>> let's talk about what else we could expect to see as we move forward here. i want to bring in michael zeldin, host of that said podcast. thanks for being here. i want to ask you, first and foremost, has the committee in your assessment thus far prove that president trump committed crimes and if so, that he potentially did them knowingly? >> i think they have laid a foundation for that for sure. what they have said is that with knowledge and corrupt intent, he engaged in a seven-part plan to obstruct the transition of power, to interfere with the obstruction of the government. and i th

his office flooded with urging to change the election. >> i want to talk to brad raffensperger. i want to talk to this piece of [ bleep ] for not going the right thing. this election was [ bleep ] stolen! >> we could build the angst building in the air over nothing. over a mirage. over a shiny object to reflect from the fact that donald trump had lost the election fair and squarely. >> reporter: you could have very easily kept your mouth shut, not said anything. gone along. was all of this worth it? putting it all on the line -- for the truth? >> the answer's, absolutely it was worth it. >> reporter: the lieutenant governor found himself among the few to speak the truth fellow georgia republican gabe sterling also became a vocal critic of the public lies. >> i remember we had our warehouse manager at our center for elections was taking the trash out. this is a young guy been working for us for a few years and all these people with cameras surrounding him going you're going to prison, you're going to prison. he's just a warehouse guy. no one should have to go through that. >> ste

brad raffensperger is the 29th secretary of state of georgia serving in the role since 2019. as an elected official and a republican, secretary brad raffensperger is responsible for supervising elections in georgia and maintaining the states public records. welcome mister secretary. gabriel sterling is a chief operating officer in the georgia office. mr. sterling was the statewide implementation manager for the 2020 election in georgia, responsible for leading the secretary of state's response to the covid pandemic and rolling out modernized voting equipment. i will swear in our witnesses. witnesses will please stand and raise the right hand do you swear upon the penalty of perjury that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god? thank you, please be seated. let the record reflect that the witnesses answered in the affirmative. speaker bowers, thank you for being with us today. you ought to speak -- your speaker of the arizona house and a self described conservative republican. you campaigned for president trum

georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger who resisted trump's pressure to find enough votes to erase his loss say the numbers are the numbers. the numbers don't lie. the committee presenting evidence that trump was deeply involved in a dubious plan to overturn the election results by submitting slates of fake trump electors. republican arizona house speaker rusty bowers choking up today when describing to the committee why he wouldn't go along with the scheme saying to do so would be foreign to my very being. bowers and other witnesses including a georgia election worker vilified by some trump supporters recounting the lies, threats and backlash they faced. that's where we start tonight with garrett haake. >> reporter: the january 6th committee today outlining a scheme they say began well before the attack on the capitol. pressuring key state officials to find trump votes or send fake pro-trump electors to washington from states joe biden won. >> anyone who got in the way of donald trump's continued hold on power after he lost the election was the subject of a dangerous and esc

you've got two terrific witnesses, brad raffensperger, who testified today, who's going to make an excellent witness, and you've also got the governor who's going to be able to testify that donald trump came in and asked him to desertfy the election after he certified it. and to call a special session of the georgia legislature so they could put in new electors. you put that package together with everything that the january 6th committee has come up with, you've got a pretty compelling case for a three-year felony in georgia that could charge donald trump with soliciting election fraud. i mean, prosecutors love tapes, and when you've got a defendant on tape andu got lots of corroborating other evidence of witnesses who basically will obliterate any kind of defense that trump can possibly raise on his statements on that tape, i really think this is what's going to bring him down. >> michelle, that dove tails back -- whatever the prosecutors choose to do or not do, and again, that's what these hearings are about. i mean, the specific situation of a president who may have illegally tried overth

witnesses include georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. you could also watched the hearing on our free video app, c-span now, or online at c-span.org. live coverage now here on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] we are live in the cannon house office building waiting for today's january 6th committee hearing to begin. schedul