to me, i guess the supposed election integrity groups and the rnc aren't just training poll watchers which you are saying is supposed to be apolitical while they carry out their work, but actual poll workers. what kind of power do poll workers hold that poll watchers wouldn't? what's the distinction between those two a poll worker and a poll watcher? >> it's an opinion important distinction. poll workers are deployed by the election authorities locally, they are select and appointed and answer to their employers, their local clerks and in that regard, they must follow the procedures, they're responsible for checking in voters, checking their identification, giving them a ballot, making sure essentially that things run smooth limit now we also have in our law and the interest of ensuring transpaens the opportunity for poll challengers to come in and observe and those individuals are often empowered to talk to election workers and potentially challenge the eligibility of citizens to vote. and so that is also where our concerns are. we know with the clerks, they are getting a significan

the chair of the rnc, disputing all of this, all of this reporting out of politico, today. saying, it shows extreme bias, and that politico is distorting the facts. but, how will this, actually, impact michigan this november? how will it impact other states where this could be taking place as well? joining us now, joscelyn vincent, democratic secretary of state for the great state of michigan, secretary benson, it's great to see you again, thank you so much for making time for us this evening. you have faced an avalanche of voter fraud conspiracy theories in michigan, after, and during the, 2020 election. what is your reaction to this new reporting, that republicans are starting earlier, this time, training teams of volunteers, and poll workers, looking before, and during the election voting process. how will that impact your line of work? >> think you for having me, and for covering this very important story. to be clear, it is important. it is not a bad thing, in and of itself, to be recruiting election workers, and poll workers. we know many organizations do it. what is

she says the rnc is following precedent and the law and best practicis. she said you should know better. i'll note josh holmes, an adviser to mitch mcconnell says in the same way in the year of our lord 2022, it is political operations. which are essentially saying the same thing. this is business as usual here, heidi. this is what the law says you can do and this is what we always do. grow up. >> interesting that they did not address the crux of the story that they're not poll watchers and they're poll workers and there's a distinction and they know that. the pushback that they gave in advance, we included their response in the story had to do with poll watchers. that's what we had in 2020 with these poll contesters and poll watchers. this is very different because this is recruiting and placing people into these positions to have authority such as election inspectors. if you listen to the tapes. they want people to take the positions and the party is collecting their nameses. they are placing them themselves into these precincts deciding where they will

i think one thing we should know is, what was the nature of the health of the rnc? >> i've got to fit in a break, but both of those issues are important. we have more on pence coming up and, this was a really important start to the program, and again, i'm sorry about the comparison i made. >> that's okay. but there's comparisons that can be made, so don't worry about it. >> i may be the first person to compare to it watergate. i thought it was cliche. kidding. making fun of myself. good to see both of you. >>> coming up, the last-ditch attempt to hand deliver that slate of fraudulent electors we were just discussing to pence, our breakdown on that next. >>> plus, the discussion that the rnc got this direct request for help from donald trump. and there's new footage inside the trump white house, and when will you see it? all that coming up. you see it? all that coming up breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition... ...or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take br

republican strategist and former rnc communications director. coming up, more coverage of that supreme court decision. this is a special edition of "balance of power" on bloomberg television and on radio. ♪ another crazy day? of course—you're a cio in 2022. but you're ready. because you've got the next generation in global secure networking from comcast business. with fully integrated security solutions all in one place. so you're covered. on-premise and in the cloud. you can run things the way you want —your team, ours or a mix of both. with the nation's largest ip network. from the most innovative company. bring on today with comcast business. powering possibilities.™ david: this is a special edition of "balance of power" on bloomberg television and on radio. i am david westin. we are just wrapping up two hours of coverage of the supreme court decision this morning at 10:00 eastern time, overturning roe v. wade. we go once again to our washington correspondent of the supreme court, joe mathieu. he is the host of "sound on." tell us wha

when you listen to the rnc, person, say oh we don't want the same outcome as 2020. what's? you mean a free and fair election? you mean the fact that the american people chose the democratic party because republicans offered nothing except taking away peoples rights? so my question for democrats as, when are we going to put in the same amount of effort that the republican party does to create fraud in our election system to scare people away from the polls, when are we going to organize in a way they are in our to save our democracy? >> david jolly, i want to reach for you from one -- chair of the rnc indefensible warrior hearing. specifically she's dresses michigan. in states like michigan, poll watchers are part of the law in legal process in place to ensure transparency and secure election integrity. it is literally how elections are run. in fact, that is completely misunderstood by political. but in fact, david, julie were not talking about poll watchers. we know about poll watchers. we're talking about pearl workers. poll workers have a lot more influence than poll watc

rnc chair ronna mcdaniel, implicates trump in an ultra net electors scheme. really refuting trump, remember two weeks ago, at our tried to put on us boy that ivanka and jared really flipping on trump. they weren't. is ronna? >> i don't think she thinks that she is flipping on trump. the thing that committee was able to extract that information out of her, but what the committee has dealt with many of these interviews is, trump's allies has gone into these hearings. have gone into these hearings, and they think they are defending him. and they will talk to the committee for an hour, or two, hours are eight hours, but the committee will get some evidence from them. ronna admitted that trump called her proactively to push the fake electors game. so she -- i don't know which he said during the rest of her testimony, she may have defended him professor, but they have been able to use interview techniques to get information to help them -- even from people who are loyal to trump, or friendly to trump. i do think that is important because we heard about plans to hav

rnc chair, mcdaniel. the rnc had previously denied to reporters that they had anything to do with this fake elector skiing. but hey, look, under oath there's ronna mcdaniel that actually the rnc helped put the -- together. and that it was trump, personally trump himself, former president himself, who called her personally and asked her to help with the fake electors scheme. >> so, yes they got caught. up to and including the presidents personal involvement in it. and this much discussion as there has been about whether there will be criminal prosecutions for the plot to overthrow the government that has been exposed by the january 6th investigation, this part of it, this part of it is where we already know there are multiple federal and state criminal investigations underway. you will remember as breaking the news here on this show in january when the michigan attorney general started investigating the federal electors in her state, as a matter of potential violations of state laws in michigan. she then r

using a so-called army of poll workers, according to tapes obtained by politico, the rnc strategy is calling for installing, quote, trained recruits as regular poll workers and put them in direct contact with party attorneys. party chairwoman ronna mcdaniel, is pushing back on this reporting saying, quote, the rnc doesn't conduct poll worker training, we just facilitate. let's find out what this all means. joining me now, let's dive in, michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee, and former lieutenant governor of maryland and kirk bardella, adviser to the dnc and dccc also contributed to the l. a. times in usa today. he won services and senior adviser and spokes person for the house oversight committee republicans. michael, let's start right there. ronna mcdaniel, she's arguing, we don't train poll workers, we just facilitate, and democrats, they've had poll workers for years. are you buying when she selling? >> i'm not buying any of that because i can tell you, as a former county chairmen, a state chairman, and national chairman, she's read on one thing, th

eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states. i think more just helping them reach out and assemble them, but my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them in that role. >> what is the significance, if any, of the fact that trump initiated that call with the rnc chair? >> well, look, he was initiating that call to give his support, his weight behind what was being asked of this head of the republican national committee. likewise, this is why he's on the call with rudy giuliani to the arizona speaker of the hus of representatives. because this is donald trump's request that the speaker of the house, a fellow republican, in the absence of any proof, call the legislature back into session, decertify the biden electors and appoint some illegitimate electors for donald trump. and you know, likewise, here he is meeting with his own attorney general, being told that these claims he's makin

in "focus" now rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel. those are dire warnings from the "wall street journal." what do you make of it? >> i think it's right on target when you look at biden saying we will import solar panels from china instead of tapping our domestic energy production, which we know we have the capacity to end this crisis that the american people are dealing with. we know that everything joe biden has done is intentional. he cut off the key stone pipeline. ket off drilling on federal lands. he did it intentionally. this is his plan, deliberate. he does not care and part of the progressive roadmap to a new america. and the american people are paying the price. it is a green new deal. it is all of our green is paying for it through our dollars. >> harris: just quickly on the next one, at the rnc you look at the big picture of the mid-term elections and so on and so forth. some of it has to be more than just messaging. what can republicans do? because we can't just sit here for the next year, two years and lame duck when the

so my goal is to be helpful and he has been helpful with fundraising with the rnc. >> say just talk about how the races are going? >> mostly about the races. he loves politics. i'm trying to think. my wife and i had dinner with him and milania in february at mar-a-lago. he doesn't ask me if you should run. but you have to assume he will run. the way i look at he's probably running. >> has a suggested unity that he is not running? >> thank you senator i have two questions. who he prefers a candidate for president. >> i don't know. the voterss? will decide. >> my other question is you mentioned the state of connecticut those that offer some evidence or any other candidate. >> first of all the election will be a referendum right now you don't see many candidates in a a press conference with joe biden. this is the year if you want to be a democrat blumenthal already has to run ads in connecticut adding murray is running an ad and she's early been sitting appear 35 years and already running ads and they are already attacking washington. look at democrats. they know how bad it is. they see the

here is the rnc director from michigan, and a poll worker training session for republican activists, last october. >> truly, it is going to be armed. we are going to try to recruit lawyers, we're gonna have more lawyers and there've been or could because, let's be honest, that's where it's going to be fought, right? >> an army. so it's totally democratic, right? it's loads of the laughable claim that the rnc wants to make it easier to vote, and harder to cheat. as well as detailed instructions on a voter, and when asked about the strategy, and initially said recruits are not being trained to challenge voters. politico, also obtaining tapes of the legal counsel of an election group, who helped attempt to overturn the election, meeting with activists from multiple states, discussing plans for identifying friendly district attorneys, and realtime interventions, and the most revealing part of the reporting is the rnc michigan officials, that he achieved the goal next winter and more and signed up to people workers. several days ago, he submitted an initial list of more than 850 names to

which is why testimony we heard yesterday about the rnc chairman ronna mcdaniel in president trump's direct involvement with calling her on the fake elector scheme might be interesting. let's listen to that. >> what did the president say when he called you? >> essentially he turned the call over to mr. eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states. i think more just helping them reach out and assemble them, but my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them in that -- in that role. >> laura, why does it matter that trump placed the call? >> that does not look good but i can it's far from a smoking gun. for the question to be what did trump say and the answer to be he passed the phone, i think that's quite attenuated, actually. this is part of the problem with having this be a congressional investigation instead of a doj investigation is you want to drill down into exactly what the exc

revealing part of the reporting is the rnc michigan officials, that he achieved the goal next winter and more and signed up to people workers. several days ago, he submitted an initial list of more than 850 names to the detroit clerk. needless to say, this is not normal, small d, democratic behavior. if we just let this happen, we may not have a democracy to fight for anymore. if there was ever a time for high voter turnout, it's november, that's a nice read out, all of course a, starts now. turnout, it's november, ,. >>,. . >>,. >>. >>. . ,. >>? >> -- >>. >>,. . ,. you new we he who one will one breaking in the last hour the inside the hospital a quarter please a senate onearlier this afternon a man armed with a rifle and to the hospital. he started shooting. they have been multiple injuries and three confirmed fatalities. the police have also come from the shooter is dead. this evening, the tulsa police described the scene is catastrophic. he said, officers are going from 44 and room to room to rescue people. they made sure that there were no additional threats. the white house con

eastman who proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case there are legal challenges that were ongoing to change the result in any state. more helping them reach out and assemble them. my understanding, the campaign did not take the lead. we were just helping them and that role. >> that was one new revelation. we also learned about other lawmakers involved in the scene and one was senator, ron johnson. he tried to explain away his role. he said this is a complete nonstory, it happened so fast, it's hard, this is 18 months ago, it just happened. let's be clear about what he said just happened. the committee, on tuesday, presented top aides from senator johnson and vice president pence. the time stamp says 12:37 p.m. less than 30 minutes be for the first barriers on capitol hill were breach. the exchange says as follows. to johnson needs to hand something to the vice president. and the vice president aid said what is it? and johnsons chiefs of staff said alternate slates of electors from michigan and wisconsin because they did

eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states. >> reporter: newly revealed text messages from the morning of january 6th show the apparent involvement of gop senator ron johnson, an exchange between staffers for johnson and vice president pence shows johnson wanted to give pence an alternate slate of electors from michigan and wisconsin. pence's staffers responded, do not give that to him. the pressure campaign extended to georgia where trump's chief of staff texted or called brad raffensperger 18 times to set up a phone call where he pressed the gop election official to find the votes needed to overturn the election. >> why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? the real truth is i won by 400,000 votes at least. >> every single allegation we checked. we ran down the rabbit trail to make sure that our numbers were accurate. >> reporter: raffensperger descri

experts i talked, to agree that this is really unprecedented, by a political party, in this case the rnc to recruit folks, many of whom are election deniers, to become actual workers. workers within the architecture of the architecture administration system, workers who would be trained beforehand in workshops, sponsored by the rnc on how to contest voters and well as well as voting processes. workers who will be equipped with new tools, for instance, such as a hotline whether they will be in touch constantly with roving party attorneys who will help them determine whether they have a legal challenge, whether they can fire a legal challenge. as well as a website, called zantac. if you use the live chat with retailers that's what they're planning to use to connect these individuals with roving party attorneys, there is also a much broader network and this is the unprecedented network as well which is the talk of recruiting friendly district attorney's. the talk of reach out to law enforcement in advance, is in -- we are a lot of untrained poll watchers for violating covid protocols, they

you have rnc officials involved. you had a whole, you know, smorgasbord of lawyers who were involved. so you can really see this investigation -- i don't know how it will conclude, i think it's way too soon to know, but you can see north of 100 people being questioned by the end. >> that's incredible. so north of 100 possibly by the end. what does this tell you about where is justice department is? it's been north of 100 people given subpoenas already -- >> no, i'm saying there are more than 100 people who could be involved in this totally. so i don't know if there's been that many subpoenas given already, i want to make that clear. what we have seen is that this has continued to grow. what we don't quite know is what the justice department is interested in. they have shown interest in this. we know that a grand jury in washington is examining some of the fund-raising behind, you know, the rally, and looking at the money, that kind of came into the rally. and then other place where is the committee has, you know, pub

remember the committee showed testimony from the rnc chairwoman, romney mcdaniel, saying trump called her to use fake electors and trump passed the phone to john eastman. listen to this. >> he turned the call over to mr. eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gathers these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states. i think more helping them reach out and assemble them. but my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them. helping them in that role. >> so what does it mean if eastman was acting as trump's direction and how do investigators figure that out? >> well, don, remember, you know, this all -- all this information about -- i say all the information. the information generally about fake electors has been out there for a long time. i don't think this is an expense of an fbi or a doj investigation. i think it's just a next step. and, again, every investigation they are putting pieces of a puzzle together and trying to connect eve

through all the new yesterday, part of that was the call that donald trump made to the head of the rnc. i want to play a portion of that. >> what did the president say what he called you? >> essentially turned the call over to mr. eastman who then proceeded to talk about the rnc campaign gathering incontingent electors with the legal challenges, changing the result, more just helping them reach out and assemble them. my understanding is the campaign did take the lead, and we just were helping them in that role. >> laid out and did all the asking or the former president who did the asking? >> i think that's significant because, you know, a lot of what's gone on here is the question of, did the president or did eastman commit a crime? you know, these contingent electors is an interesting phrase. they weren't contingent. they were invented. they were fake. i mean, being an elector is a government position. you can't just say a group of people are the presidential ele electors. however, the fact that the president was relying on the advice of john eastman who was a law professor, former su

anythingus to do with the fake scheme but there is ronnat mcdaniel admitting that actually yes thenn rnc helped p the fake electors together and, and that it was trump personally, trump himself, former president himself, who called her personally, and asked her to help with the fake electors scheme. so yes, they got caught. up to and including the president's personalan involvement. and as much discussion as there has been about whether there will be criminal prosecutions for the plot to overthrow the government that has been exposed 6th e january investigation, this part of it, this part of it is where we already know there are multiple federal and stateal criminal investigations under way. you will remember us breaking the news here on this show in january when the michigan attorney general started investigating the federaley electors in her state as a matter of potential violations of state law in michigan. she then referred that matter to federal prosecutors at the u.s. department of justice, infe lat january, you will remember, the deputy attorney general, lisa monaco,ra announcing

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working in georgia in a very humble capacity trying to make democracy work and then top officials at the rnc trying to make this scheme so he could remain in power. thwhat a tragic thing that happened. this committee trying to get to the bottom of it. the doj, wooul see. >> they have fwoen through these several pieces. tomorrow we'll hear from jeffrey rosen. then from richard donnahue, one of his deputies. so we have already seen bill barr's testimony. he said three times he met with trump. give it up. it's not there. what is the committee's goal in trying to say donald trump kept going to the justice department s saying i want you to help me say there was no fraud. >> they clearly have demonstrated and are continuing to demonstrate that the president had every reason to understand that what he was saying was baseless and fraudulent. he didn't have evidence or the legal cause to take the kind of extreme actions he wanted to talk. the fact that rudy giuliani said we don't have evidence, but we have a lot of theories a all the this point, is quite an emission on the part of somebody very close

support, though mcdaniel was quick to clarify that she viewed the rnc's role as a supporting role and not necessarily as the mechanism or operation that would be executing eastman's ideas. >> such a good thing to flag. let me play some of eastman's appeal to the georgia legislature on the elector scheme. for my control room, it's number five. >> could also do what the florida legislature was prepared to do, to adopt a slate of electors yourself. when you add in the mix of the significant statistical anomalies and sworn evidence of out right election fraud, i don't think it's just your authority to do that, but you have a duty to do that, to protect the integrity of the election here in georgia. >> so we now know that pont examining some of the committee's evidence, a federal judge thinks john eastman more likely than nod committed felonies. hearing that was more ominous with that analysis in the public record, in the judicial record. i wonder your thoughts tieing not just eastman but trump -- the phony elector scheme wasn't a mad cap circus thing. it was a crime. it's a crime to submi

. >> at the president's direct request, the rnc assisted the caaign in coordinating this effort. >> what did the president say when he called you? >> essentially, he turned the call over to mr. eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance othe rnc helping the campaign gather these continge electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of states. i think more just helping them reach out and assemble them. but that -- my understandings the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them in that role. >> as president trump and his supporters continued to lose lawsuits, some campaign lawyers became convinced that convening electors in states that trump lost was no longer appropriate. >> i just remember i either replied or called somebody saying, unless we have litigation pending this, le, in these states, like, i don't think this is appropriator, you know, this isn't the right thing to do. i don't rember how i phrased it, but i got into a little bit of a back and forth and i think it was with ken chesebro, wher i said, all rht, y

the rnc pointing out that the gas price on average right now is double what it was on the day president biden took office in 2020. now, as far as president boyden's approach to this, he's trying to do something that is very difficult, which is to convince americans that the economy is actually doing better. polls show most americans actually feels like it is right. now the president using those jobs to say the fundamental of the economy are strong. and to play down the prospect of a recession, even at some outside recognizance are saying that is now likely, if not inevitable. at the same time the president's cheerleading the economy, he's also trying to do something that might seem contradictory. he's assuring americans that essentially he gets. the white house is not ignorant to the real economic challenges that americans are feeling right now, especially when it comes to gas prices and other goods. here's of the president tried to strike the balance between those two priorities. >> i know that even today's good news, a lot of americans remain anxious. there is no denying the high pric

and we heard from ronna mcdaniel, the chair of the rnc who confirmed this. take a listen. >> what did the president say when he called you? >> essentially he turned the call over to mr. eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states. i think more just helping them reach out and assemble them, but that my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them in that role. >> so trump calls her, he passes the phone to eastman, the architect of this whole scheme. put your prosecutor hat on. what does do skj do with that? >> it is interesting because this is the first time we've known publicly that the former president was personally involved in this fraudulent slate of electors scheme. previously it had seemed to be more in rudy giuliani's camp and john eastman and some of the others. the problem is from the clip that we've heard, we don't really know how much he knew abou

eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states. i think more just helping them reach out and assemble them, but the -- my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them in that -- in that role. >> so, that was one new revelation. we also learned about other lawmakers involvement in the scheme. one of those was senator ron johnson. he spent another day today trying to explain away his role, telling cnn today that, quote, this is a complete nonstory and that, quote, guys, this happened so fast, it's hard -- this is 18 months ago, this just -- this just happened. that -- let's just be clear about what he says just happened. the committee on tuesday presented a text exchange between top aides for senator johnson and former vice president pence that occurred, this text exchange, on january 6th. the timestamp says 12:37 p.m. that's less than 30 minutes before the first barriers on capitol hill

. -- this person wanting for placing pipe bombs outside the rnc and dnc headquarters. many stormed the capitol insist, you know, we have an invitation. >> we were invited by the president of the united states. >> what really made me want to come was the fact that i had supported trump all the time, i did believe that the election was being stolen, and trump asked us to come. >> he personally asked us to come to d.c. that day. i thought, for everything he's done for, us if this is the only thing he's gonna ask of me, i'll do it. >> i know why i was there? because he called me there and he laid out what is happening in our government. he laid it out. >> i remember donald trump telling me to be there. to support i need your support. >> you've mentioned the president asked you. do you remember a specific message? >> basically, yes he asked us for us to come to d.c., and think big things are gonna happen. >> he said i have something very important to say on january 6th, or something like that. >> joining me now is frank -- former fbi assistant director for counter intellige

as someone who spent so much time getting to the dnc you have to go past the rnc. there are so many unanswered questions and i hope starting this week we'll find some answers. >> chris christie, the conventional wisdom is, public opinion is baked in on all of this, but i find it hard to imagine at the end of the hearings that former president trump is not going to be in a worse position than he is today. >> look, the truth on this will hurt him. i mean, look, the battle right now, george, is between the truth and lies. and what the former president's been doing has been lying about this, lying both affirmatively, in terms of whether the election was stolen or not and lying by his silence in terms of what was he doing that day. donald trump talks about everything. he's willing to talk about everything. you've never heard him talk about what he was doing on january 6th. lots of other people are talking about it. look, can anybody be surprised that marc short was concerned, about his boss' safety, because in the trump administration, throughout four years, but especia

got john eastman, the kind of legal architect of this nonsense, on the phone, with the chair of the rnc, and so, you to me, there's lots of evidence over the hearings that even against other people, but today was really focused on donald trump's act of wrongdoing. that's what the justice department is looking to. but it's also what trump himself is looking to because he's been trying to set up his subordinates like john eastman to be the fall guy, and that's a lot harder, given the testimony today. so, today, you had these republicans, like rusty bowers, calling the president a liar, and then, you've got the secretary of state for georgia, raffensperger, who is portraying trump as a malicious pusher of these lies himself. you know, my favorite moment in the hearing was raffensperger saying, look, i called trump, i told him i could send him a video link to show that these claims of election fraud were bogus. and trump's reply was, hey, i have a much better video for you to look at. there's only two types of ways i have ever deflected from trump, that he asked me for money, and the type t

but that is the goal of this whole operation that the rnc is standing up. it is to create chaos. whether they're successful or not is not really a thing democrats are going to have an easy hand in controlling. i think this is great reporting by politico, and i think it sort of shines a spotlight on what republicans are trying to do in states across the country. >> what do you make of it all? >> i think the environment in michigan is actually potentially very much a tinder box because of some of the way that the states politics have broken, some of the militia activity that goes on. i think one of the things we need to see from our institutions and many of my sources on both sides of the aisle, republicans tend not to say it in public as much, as democrats do, but there is concern that this lays the groundwork for something worse than just our politics being about choices and ballots and counting votes, and instead crossing the wrong line into violence. there needs to be a very careful accounting and approach when it comes to these kinds of things or you're potentially ginning peo

now the rnc committee says they're going to put people on the quote front lines with poll workers who are going to fight. >> truly, it's going to be an army, right, we are going to try to recruit lawyers. we're going to have more lawyers, let's be honest, that's where it's going to be fought, right. we're going to have lawyers that work early to vote with different judges so that when that happens, we'll have lawyers that have relationships with the police chiefs in the different areas, with the police officers in the different areas. when that happens, it's preexisting relationships already established. >> d.a.'s, judges, police chiefs, this is the trumpification of openly discussing the abuse of power but putting it out here through the local level. let's be clear because we always try to be fair. both parties historically have involved lawyers and poll workers and other trainings in what is designed by often both parties saying efforts to protect voters, and they have the partisan impulse to protect their own voters. what this reporting shows, though, is something different. it's n

ronna mcdaniel from the rnc. we talk about what could happen in november and parts of the country that flip that you don't see coming. that race in texas, you didn't see it coming. 20 years ago we had a mid-term election, you were in washington, d.c. i was at the other place and you had a party that held on to power during a mid-term, which is rare. the question that year was about national security. you had stories out of kentucky where the state legislature flipped for the first time since reconstruction and that is the kind of anticipation that some in the republican party have right now potentially coming november >> dana: a sleeper race, the republican senate race an open senate race in vermont. watch the republican candidate christina nolan and former u.s. attorney appointed by trump. very successful in bringing a lawsuit for the justice department and settling that in a record number. it could be won if you are looking for something to look at. >> bill: 4 1/2 months to talk about it. the senate balance of

. >> however, mcdaniel testified the donald trump campaign took the lead while the rnc's role was "just helping." >>> we are back in 60 seconds. ahead, an unwelcome guest in the east bay. that's a badger. a woman can't seem to get rid of it. it is refusing to leave and no one seems able to help her. >>> also, a lot of people say time and money is being wasted. the new report showing how often oakland police officers are answering calls for violent crime. >>> and a very warm 81 in san jose right now, when we get a break on the >>> a follow-up now on that violent stabbing that happened at sfo. we are learning the man responsible is in police custody. we first brought you the story friday. that is when police say 33-year- old sing entered sfo with a machete and slashed three travelers. they suffered only minor cuts and scrapes but were able to continue on with their travel plans. sing is being charged with three felony counts of assault with a deadly weapon. no word on when he will be arraigned. >>> the same night that oakland city council is looking at police funding, a new report claims

but don't you think it's odd we haven't been able to locate the rnc-dc bomber? >> i agree. there are so many questions coming out of january 6. i'm on the oversight committee. we had two hearings on this june and may of last year. when republicans started digging in to these questions, that's when nancy pelosi should it down. that's when she wanted an independent commission and she wanted to play with the independent commission. that got shut down. then she created her polit bureau everybody saw. dan: they said it was a planned insurrection. then they said trump incited it. was it planned or did trump incite it? >> they can't keep their stories straight because they are trying to create a narrative where none you exists. i was there, it was shameful for the country and it must be held accountable. but this political conspiracy that donald trump want an insurrection is insane. ' we found out the only russia collusion was from the dnc and hillary clinton. dan: my expectations are low, too. congressman, thanks for your time. coming up, a blow to george soros's attempt to destr

she was asked by the bbc's trick, she's normally a straight shooting politician, do you like the rnc? she says i've got to go now, i've got a train to catch. she talks about working people -- she talks about working people, where was the lady when the comrades were on the front lines on thursday? she was at a music festival, sipping champagne. champagne socialism is bucking the labour party. >> well, mr. speaker. that says a lot about the party opposite. i will tell you a few things about militancy. it is the government that is absent in a militant way. they were getting hundreds of thousands squeezed out of their donors instead of dealing with the crisis. he talked about trade. >> i think we will just have a little chat. we have a question and we also have the answer. >> i think it is rather ironic when you've got people out on the streets. mr. speaker, they don't like you as a public. i will tell you the honorable gentlemen opposite has a stronger stomach than the colleagues behind him. >> i want to hear the question and i want to hear the answer. >> think about the constituents for

it's a great shrine to their political acumen and then they give to the dnc or rnc. kamala harris can't get $15,000, they have to slash the price down to $5000, which is still a lot of money, but people pay $15 or 20,000 for a picture. people have had enough. this is not inflation because the kind of people paying this price, inflation is not affecting them. inflation is fine in their homes, they don't like kamala harris, joe biden or the direction of this country. >> ashley: harris approval rating 56 disapprove. house majority whip looking to 2024 and mentions kamala harris, take a listen. >> there is no question in my mind joe biden is doing what needs to be done for this great country of ours. if he chooses not to run again, first on my list after him would be kamala harris. >> ashley: sean, you think something so simple as dropping the price of the cost of a photo op, you would think it is nothing, do you think that may deter harris from a 2024 bid for president? >> sean: you have taste of the vice presidency, they want to become president and they see it as a on