and he winds up becoming the lawyer walter winchell. walter winchell is the far and away the biggest media figure in america if you've ever seen that show the untouchables. he had that rat tat tat voice and walter winchell, though, was on nights and people would listen him and he also was in a hundreds literally hundreds of newspaper around the country. this is all before television. so had a huge impact. and so when my ernest cuneo becomes his attorney, he's not only giving legal advice, but he's like a source for. winchell a lot of stuff from the roosevelt white house that winds up in winchell's columns and on broadcasts are coming through ernest. they would go out after the sunday night broadcast and they would go to the various different nights. the store club, which was like the biggest nightclub then we're talking in 1930s and he become ernest is introduced to the the leading crime fighter in america, j. edgar hoover of the fbi. and he's running after people like dillinger and all these other characters, you know, essentially is a

who knows who walter winchell was. but he was bigger than any media today, bigger than had an audience, bigger than 60 minutes. he had a radio program at night that everybody listened to. this is before television. this is in the late thirties. and he had a very distinct style, if you've ever seen that show, the untouched bowls. he was the in that kind of that rack attack tabloid type of style. and he became very friendly with cuneo. cooney actually became his and so by 1940 or so ernest working for winch oil. he was there every sunday night when they were doing the broadcast. he would go through scripts at times. he would come in with stories that he was learning from the white house. they helped foster the whole third term of fdr and he was very much involved with politics. but then by 1940, as i say, the world changed and what was happening was, the war in europe and the idea that america could remain isolationist, which was the majority of joe kennedy, prominent charles lindbergh, another very prominent isolationis

by the 1930's he was introduced to walter winchell, and it's hard for maybe someone younger than 65, to be honest, who knows who walter winchell was and is bigger than any star today, had a audience bigger than "60 minutes" and had a radio program at night everyone listened to. this is before television and in the late 1930's. with a distinct style, anyone see "the untouchables" and was in a rat-a-tat type of style. cuneo became his lawyer and so by 1940 or so ernest was working for winchell and there every sunday night and would come in with stories he was learning from the white house. they hemmed foster the third term of f.d.r. he was very much involved in politics. by the 1940's, what changed, what was happening is the war in europe and the idea that america could remain isolationists, which was the majority of americans, joe kennedy, charles lindbergh saying no, we should not get into war. and to be fair, a lot of american has seen loved ones lost in world war i which was roughly 20 years earlier. and i know that was one of the concerns of joe kennedy. he had three sons that the