so this was at the beginning of the iraq war, and i remember that there was this kind of rush to consensus that we shouldn't beta rack because saddam had weapons of mass destruction. and that anybody who spoke out against it was a terrorist supervisor or a communist or are fundamentally into american. and i remember that the still you campaign at that time was that the sentence patriotic. and that's something that really resonated with me. i always like to tell people that we have the best clients in this case. i think that's absolutely true. all manner of people have been forced to sign these and people certification forms. many of them are reluctant to throw themselves into the middle of a major public controversy. but we've got a few brave individuals to step forward and say, hey, this is the right thing to do. what i'm going to do it. that's the kind of moral courage that makes me so happy to work at these. all you have us. i just wanna check in briefly about the draw it all case and where we are in the briefing. that's gone through basically all the levels of approval and that it need

united states did, in fact bomb iran, there would be an american base in the region, whether it be in iraqiranian retaliation. and so having the aircraft carriers there provide extra layers of security for what the united states carried out tonight, and certainly american bases and american personnel in the region. >> we have new reporting from our colleague kristen welker, the moderator of meet the press, she wrote when asked for a response to president trump's announcement that iran's nuclear sites were attacked. senator graham, that's lindsey graham, said. good. and when asked what happens next, he said, be ready. senator graham, long proponent of this action, is going to appear with her this weekend. what's your reaction to this, and what do you think this means for american service members who are in the region? >> so i think there's a few things to unpack here. one, the debate that was taking place in this country among the maga base. we now know who won, and we know that it was the hawks within the maga world. donald trump ran on the promise of not starting another war. it is safe t

troops patient and iraq as retaliation for the death of iranian general soleimani. we wanted to see how they reacted so we hit the streets for this week's talk of the town. >> what's your reaction to what's happening? >> that's a big question, a loaded question. >> a conflict going on for centuries so i hope they can quell something this time. >> i trust trump, patriots are in control. >> you think it will expand? >> it depends on what trump does that will decide pretty much what's going to happen. >> you think they will get involved? >> no. we don't want to go have ceased. >> they need help. >> they need to or china won't take it seriously as well. it's a line in the sand. >> what you think it is? >> hopefully it will and. >> of the get them before they have them, they will split. >> 1947. >> while president trump decides whether to strike iran, prime minister has been holding nuclear talks with european officials this weekend. the world nation is refusing to meet with the u.s. will file. >> with the united states under the support of the united st states. >> presi

the idea of says it killed senior rainy and military commanders in overnight strikes on iraq, including the man responsible for army has blocked and from us it's too late and we carried out another significant assassination tonight in western iran. been, i'm sorry, r a was the commander of the weapons transfer unit of the codes force of the revolutionary guards. the video of his assassination is now showing on the screen. the shower yardi was in charge of transferring weapons from the reigning regime to hezbollah and its other proxies in the middle east. israel also attacked a nuclear side and is behind in centrally run the manufacturers centrifuges used to enrich uranium. the u. n. has confirmed the strikes that says there's no danger of hazardous material leakage. joining me now is band. i'm ben kelley blue, his senior director of the state of ron program at the foundation for defense of democracies. he joins us from washington, dc, but i'm thank you so much for being here. now as wells folder in municipal say's several tax, i've already delayed a ron's efforts to develop a new cable

many of their surgeons have with wounds from the iran-iraq war. >> as you know, we have. >> you know. >> eight years war with the. >> saddam hussein's regime. >> and in. >> that period. >> our surgeons. >> our physicians are very. >> well trained. >> for the. >> trauma patients management. and. >> you know. >> i. >> surgeon too. and at that time i was medical students and i was in the battlefield as a healthcare worker. so most of our surgeons are very familiar with the war trauma. >> so as you can see, there's a lot of people here in tehran and other places who are still in hospital. and the iranians say they understand that this conflict is far from over. fred pleitgen cnn tehran. >> fred pleitgen. thank you so much. harrowing moments caught on camera in brazil, where a hot air balloon caught fire in midair. eight people were killed. what we know about that terrifying incident, that's next. >> this is cnn, the world's news network. >> outback steakhouse has a three course meal called the aussie, aussie, aussie with soup. >> or salad. >> your choice of select entrees and cheesecake f

so we can pain on iraq without through i hate, i was just, you know, about that. the israel's airstrikes and gaza have killed more palestinians, as i gathered to get food from distribution sites. israel's military killed more than 30 people on saturday, including 11 were waiting to get desperately needed supplies. the attacks took place at distribution centers run by the us and is rarely back gothic humanitarian foundation. it's been accused of weapon isaac food distribution, since the foundation replaced un run a agencies on the street, a load as shown in purple slip. i will not send you into the streets to arrive before the people to the point of dest. as i call it, i quoted the point of death. the tank is in front of us. the machine gun is in front of us and the quite a cop to is above us and they all soldiers on the ground was snipers. when anyone who moves before the time is shot and the moment the tank retreats, we start running on the surface of israel had repeatedly cut off internet and telecommunication services, making it increasingly difficult for famil

ok, garza iraq. you crate less. one assumed he was sent to fail on order. i don't necessarily think he was. i don't think he was, he doesn't have a team of wise people around him because you have this particular situation where it seems that the president himself, it could go either way. so then you need yeah, cruise influencing negotiate to do they know what they're doing. yeah, these right, the white glove had a big attain that'd be filled with the state to see a law side operative people have actually applauded the fact these alone disability in the real estate man. and he was able to stop the kenning and gaza when the, the, you know, you ration a good for donald trump. it shows he's able to do what happened. but well, what happened? what happened there is that nothing? yeah. who looked at this, he said, i don't want to get on the wrong side of this administration. a soon has been they, they go into the weeds. they go, absolutely. bamboozled, took his ready choking ports, turned them into american top. of course, what happened on a wrong similar, so it's

drones were massively deployed in iraq and afghanistan as well a while ago. why is it different now? i guess the key difference is in the type of drones that are being used. so in the conflict of in iraq and afghanistan were characterised by the use of large, long-range, military-grade drones. while in ukraine, we have seen a massive deployment of smaller quadcopter drones that are actually based often on commercial designs. dr vincent, we've seen that defence, like almost every other part of life, could be changed by artificial intelligence. this is one of your specialist areas. is there cause for concern here? in the military domain, you know, ai present both kind of opportunity and challenges. and in terms of opportunities, you know, obviously, like, you know, ai offer a lot of, like, substantial kind of operational benefit. they can help militaries kind of process battlefield information and make decisions much more quickly. they can be leveraged to make weapons more autonomous, which make them more resilient to electronic warfare. they also have, like, e

now, beau biden, who served in iraq, actually had been deployed in 2008, 2009. beau biden, as we discussed, died tragically in 2015. that is the kind of issues president biden was having in terms of not being able to come up with dates for major life events. what the biden administration did to robert her, in terms of their effort to discredit him, he had difficulty finding work for several months after that. it really is, i think, one of the most important moments of the biden presidency. i would also argue, i would judge news media behavior based on how they covered that. because coverage of robert hurt's report really split between some in the news media who took what he was saying seriously and others in the news media who ran to defend president biden and attack robert her. that is a significant moment we had not yet talked about. host: one more call. this will be from catherine. go ahead. caller: good morning, pedro. jake, i usually watch your show and i like you a lot, but i was disappointed in the book about president biden. but my question for you is, h

for example, in iraq attacking u.s. bases. so it is a very, very important role to provide that ground truth in any of the in these kinds of meetings. >> and i do think it's interesting, too, that that you are making note of the fact that he did choose to come back and do this meeting in person and do it at the white house. >> indeed. you know, so president trump really enjoys being away on the weekends and and, you know, and he doesn't really enjoy being in the sit room. these are if you're going into the sit room, it's purposeful. and that is to get everyone together at the same time to be sorting through these things. and he's asked three questions. jessica, as far as the press reporting has put out there, he's asked, you know, whether the strike is necessary. in other words, could israel do it on their own, whether it would be effective in in eliminating iran's nuclear program and whether it would put the united states in a position of a prolonged war? those last two, whether it would eliminate the nuclear program and the

so we can pain on iraq without through. i hate just, you know, by that the, the now as well as campaign against palestinians collecting food from distribution centers across garza, has claimed more lives as well as military has killed them. 30 people on the satellite, including 11 waiting to get desperately needed supplies. those attacks took place at distribution centers run by the us and is ready packed and caused by the terrier in foundation. it's been accused of weapon noise in food distribution. since the foundation replace u. n. 18 agencies in the strip as shown in purple slip, i will not send you into the streets to arrive before the people to the point of dates, as i call it. i called at the point of death, the tank is in front of us. the machine gun is in front of us and the quite cop to is above us. and they all sold is on the ground with snipers when anyone who moves before the time is shot. and the moment the tank retreats, we start running on the surface of unit, as well as repeatedly cuts off into that and tel

because i don't think that you should get directly involved in this conflict to bases in bahrain, and iraqand even some troops in syria. the air force brass says social bunker busting bombs to work as intended should the order be issued. >> lucas thank you so much. we will be watching. in the meantime around the foreign minister showed us in his meeting yesterday that he is willing to negotiate on nukes but not with everyone healed msnbc this. >> we are not seeking negotiations. it is the americans who want to talk super they have sent messages several times. very serious ones but we made explicitly clear to them that as long as this aggression and innovation continues as obsolete no room for talk or diplomacy. we are engaged in legitimate self-defense. this defense will not stop under any circumstances. orcs maybe they should start preparing because president trump is not budging from his two week deadline for a run to reach an agreement with the u.s. on nukes. there might be some hope trump and turkeys president trying to a raised a meeting between senior u.s. and my iranian officials in

forces in iraq and syria would probably try to attack u.s. bases there. other officials said in the event of an attack, iran would attack american warships in the persian gulf. commanders put american troops on high alert at military bases throughout the region, including in the united arab emirates, jordan, and saudi arabia. the united states has more than 40,000 troops deployed in the middle east. i met the father of an apache helicopter pilot currently deployed in syria yesterday. finally, from the article, two iranian officials have acknowledged that the country would attack u.s. bases in the middle east starting with those in iraq, if the united states joins israel's war. we stand tonight as close to the potential initiatings of a third war in the middle east, the united states against iran, as we have been during my time in the senate. and so yesterday morning when the senate came into serbsing i announced and then i -- into session, i announced and then i followed up with the filing of a war powers resolution in this resolution, a privileged resolu

the, the people of so called in theory of races in iraq, afghanistan, syria, palestine, russia, and even in supposedly allied ukraine can be ren sykes, and killed by the millions. you are, most people are young, simple, now let alone, if not, 5050, almost live you fuck the you not feel the same. you ask you because the not a computer on the students or do, but you more here is he nimble p as on fox. you're not see the, what's the, what's the last last spring of minor issues? preferred task went them fun. is my nipples window. a number of music given the categories castillo once it's with us citizens, each corporate to emotionally became the year, and i get them like you focused on, but at least now i be sure of the unit is based on the not all the way up with a process in sort of bought a new bush or 5 even if the boys will put in there for it to show any store consolidated insurance in the territory assignment school site. use a new phone and here's what you are being these is a saying today the croatian people contributed the highest percentage of us population to that struggle against

the us led invasion of iraq nato's intervention in libya, but also in the wrong with the us and u. k. sponsored regime change ousting is prime minister decades ago. it began in the early 19 hundreds. the british began developing a runs oil industry in exchange for total control over exploration and sales, creating the anglo iranian oil company later known as british petroleum. you're on the vast oil reserves would be under bridge control for the next half century. handing london doubles the revenue compared to that of a run to but there was growing resentment in the 1950s. a wave of nationalist voice has began dominating your ons. parliament led by prime minister mohammed most at once time magazine's person of the year who took office on a platform to reduce the powers of the shop and to nationalize the ron's oil industry. saying in a speech with the oil revenue, we could meet our entire budget and combat poverty, disease and backwardness among our people. in iran, the move was seen as a bold step towards economic sovereignty. but in britain, a violation of its interests. in 1953 b

seems this far to israel's attack on you want a week ago ahead of the meetings, iraq feet. so this country has nothing to discuss with the us as long as he's real continuous. it's trucks on the wall and, but it's open to dialogue with others. although not negotiations, the meeting to place has to use presidents on donald trump is to decide on us move in is really on board within 2 weeks. but at the same time, there are report circulating that the us is preparing to attack a want with israel for that. even if we consider the americans in this matter to be partners and collaborators with the zionist regime. and these attacks against iran, there are numerous indications of cooperation between existing american forces in the region and the zionist regime. but more importantly, there are tweets and everything is conducted by the president of the us explicitly using the word we. as in we did this, we did that, this should happen, that should happen. well, there is no longer any need for evidence or prove the us presence. and participation in this matter is completely clear and we

he's been holding talks with rods for administer of us, iraq. she was the organization of islamic cooperation, met and assemble a rocky one that's us intervention. and the war with israel would be very dangerous, accomplish process, the freight from us detention is about to keep competing against the will in gaza. a judge audit columbia university graduate must move police release, saying he was wrong, be held in louisiana. it was welcomed home by supporters in new jersey, the trump administration still aims to deport him bills if i as one of the leaders of bella ros. this opposition movement has been released from jail following almost 5 years behind bars said high as the handle sky was met by his wife's atlanta. on his release from jail, a total of 14 bella roost and political prisoners. i've been released with surprise move came alice, officer of the leader of available sex under lucas shanker. mentioned almost from special envoy, keith cullum, and menacing hospitality area. i talked to the front of the ciocca. he's the advisor, all see atlan

is this tiny the highest the see also to keep in iraq and induct statements. he can done is the greatest submitted to the campaign on the wrong. and it was as if the united states cat is out, it's the threats to target audi harmony. the supreme lead, it will be long then thing is will get out of control and the complex will pill over, across the region. we support the stance of our grand leader. we totally protect arrogance and aggression. we will win, god willing, not only in iran, but in palestine gone, so 11 on and syria, a lot has been witnessing good movements since the beginning of has been submitted to the campaign on your, on, on fridays supporters of. but sadly that i'm all for the sun to perform a mess, friday unified prayer to cold on day. like you government not to allow is way as well. planes to violate the rock, a space, to target sites inside your on need to level we caught on of the arab and muslim stage to reject the aggression on the wrong way all day in this campaign against a most a nation. they radians on neighbors and we stand by them, by

chair of the oil organization, the petroleum explosion, countries will impact that includes iran, iraq, and are you a russian president? putin says the group does not yet have to intervene to come to market, which has to go a bone in these countries consciously restricts the production and supply of energy resources to the world market. now, however, according to the existing agreement, production is gradually increasing. but like i say it happens gradually in order not to create and balances in the global market. and in order to ensure, as we always say, in such cases, a balance between supply and demand and fair prices. iran is threatened to close the straight to full moves through which millions of barrels of oil poss every day, making up around a 5th of the world's energy supply. to do so, would immediately hike the price of oil and would also be a big blow to river on itself. the both countries, the war continues to damage, already bought that economy. israel says it will attack iran for as long as it takes an iran says it will end to tools when it's new. can it program while the

so you're ronnie and city of, of us near the border with iraq. these are some of the latest scenes from closest on proteins. now these really ambulance services of fragments of an intercepted drone fellow, the residential building and pitch and, and the knolls. he's ready on me, he says it's intercepted around $400.00 iranian drains. since the conflict began the now according to the you ends of refuge, your agency mold and full media, enough guns who escaped? well, i'm persecution all living in iran. but the conflict between israel and ron is pull some of those to return to a country they left decades ago. come out of hiding our reports. as long periods of runners, guns, major border crossing into each are increasing day to day. seeing an influx of, of, on refugees returning to the country they left years ago. each has a story on why they left off button is done. and watch prompted them to back up and go back young, but there was fighting the way we live. michelle struck close by and we could see them flying out of the head from the camp was than

diplomat visited switzerland where he met with counterparts from britain, france, and germany of us, iraq. she decried the lot of western condemnation over israel's actions. and in an address to the you and human rights council, he stated israel was committing war crimes with its attacks on nuclear facilities. now this session of nearly 100000000 populations is subjected to an outrageous act . stuff like vision by it, a game that has been committing a horrible genocide in palestine for the past 2 years. and that is occupying the lands of neighboring countries are peacefully located. facilities have also been targeted, despite data being on the phone with monitoring of i a, a. and despite the fact that that touching such facilities are absolutely banned on the international law in that tax on nuclear facilities or grave war crimes. given also the vendor of environmental and the health capacitor of as the results of radiological linkage. while israel has lost a series of various products targeting a wants in new current infrastructure, including heavily fortified and that tends facility wou

we even saw this in iraq. remember that president bush thought that we would be greeted as liberators, and we were by some for a while. but then you saw what happened. now, this is a very different kind of operation. the president trump is not talking about putting american troops on the ground. his hope is that this would be a very surgical operation. if he needs to go do it. but we all know, as you said in your opening, things happen. and if the iranians react by taking shots at american troops and there are more than 40,000 in the region, then all of a sudden we could be into something much bigger and deeper, and it could deepen that nationalistic response that you read about in the times and see on those clips. >> admiral stavridis, you're the former supreme allied commander of nato. nato will gather next week. take our final 60s and tell me what you're looking toward with regard to that meeting in terms of iran. >> i think there will be some discussion about it. but frankly, the real focus of that meeting

the idea of says it killed senior rainy and military commanders in overnight strikes on iraq, including the man responsible for army has blocked and from us it's too late and we carried out another significant assassination tonight in western iran. been, i'm sorry, ari was the commander of the weapons transfer unit of the codes force of the revolutionary guards. the video of his assassination is now showing on the screen of the shower yard was in charge of transferring weapons from the reigning regime to has the law and its other proxies in the middle east of israel also attacked a nuclear side is behind in centrally run the manufacturers centrifuges used to enrich uranium. the u. n. has confirmed district that says there's no danger of hazardous material leakage. oh yes, spoke to a firestick nadine, me, he's an associated fellow, the washington institute for near east policy. and he gave us his assessment of how much longer these mutual attacks can continue. oh, this is the 1st truly avalon grinch fires war. then while you're more for, and 2 sides are stingy, significant about to fly o

bush appointed him to be the cochair of the iraq national intelligence commission and in 2008 he waswarded the presidential medal of freedom. for all these reasons and many more aei is honored by judge silverman's connection. he was a senior fellow here at aei writing on foreign policy, regulatory information and the rule of law alongside antonin scalia you and other greats. many years later judge silverman returned enthusiastically and generously to participate in aei's conferences and conversations. last year his family, friends and admirers established aei's lawrence silverman's chair in constitutional governance which i am honored to hold. this is the annual lecture that bears his name and embodies his legacy. the lawrence silverman lecture on law and national security. for the first annual lecture we are grateful to be joined by judge silverman's family and to inaugurate the lecture we are truly honored and grateful to be joined by attorney general william barr. a man whose own life mirrors judge silverman's values in public service. he served as the 77th and 85th u.s. attorney

but i hope your appreciate and the region that to where the shadow at the us invasion of iraq in 2003 still costs a very long shadow doesn't it? we have to make sure the have to, we have to make sure that any of the intelligence that you may, some may have face to findings on is water tide, which is precisely what we're doing here. or can we move on to another again and again, let me tell you that we do not base other conclusions solely on intentions. we base our conclusions. the, the case of veronica is a country that these a member of the we inspect them. we share our findings with them. we'll discuss them. this is not a process like i take a point are those are the role of super judge you let me move on now because i want to talk about. so yeah, another painful i would need to order this. i'm not israel's actual possession of nuclear weapons. well beyond, of course, the gaze of, of international inspectors. according to the traditional campaigns, football, this nuclear weapons, israel has material for 200 nuclear weapons and estimated 90 existing. we'll have some for that figure as

so we can pain on iraq without brutal i had just, you know, about that. still ahead on now is there a conflict between israel and iran is forcing some off guns to retention what country they left the decades ago. the hard hitting in to be used as a former leader of a g 7 country. how worried i'm facing realities? what kind of lead would you like to see? take the country fluid off to this entry period is a lot to go back to the old for instance. did you that you have thought provoking on? what exactly was the pressure of who was it coming from with threats, made reset to groups are very active with each country's business. no secret via the stores. on top to al jazeera, the latest news, at least 24 is riley's, have been killed at the 19000 israelis filed the compensation because of damage to that property. with detailed coverage, this meeting was joined by 7 countries. there is a very wide range of views on this conflict. the will start 3 devices from around the world. this riley says a message that told them that must not return to an era where political

and the police between iran and israel over here, you've got a number of us bases and facilities in iraqsyria, the us embassy in baghdad. hell vulnerable would you say those forces are? the president said if iran touches one hair on an american's head we are coming after them. so far, iran seems to have gotten the message. >> they have to worry about israel. for decades now, they've been attacking us troops, hezbollah, hamas, we lost american lives at these very bases. only thing that makes us safe is weapons procurement facilities. they want to do us harm. jon: if you were advising the president whether to join israel, what would you say? >> i know the president has more information than i too, alluded to the fact that iran could be within weeks of procuring weapons systems against israel. they seemed desperate, they are obviously extremists not to be trusted, they lied to us over and over again, biden gave them access to more billions of dollars, we are seeing used for evil so i say trust your instincts, trust the intelligence you are getting, trust this has long-term and short-term ra

foreign minister of us and actually as the organization of his law makes cooperation met in is simple iraq. he wanted that to us intervention in the war with israel would be very dangerous. funerals have been helpful victims of a suicide bombing that killed at least 20 people in i g, a reality of taxes and they just be carried outside women. i think for the rental group of co. hi, ron targeting onto the hottest slide has conflict between two's level sections as intensive funds or from us for now coming up off to a short break. i dw documentary telling the stories of the live as of the genocide carried out against the young people by the so called atlantic state. i'm going to jones for me on the news team here, and billing. thanks for watching. the name is the calls back. said, wow, thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do that. it's all about saying a loud noise wouldn't be nosy bay like good. everyone to king. check out the award winning called call. the call back.

that's the sort of deal the previous supreme leader took in the 1980s to end the iran-iraq war. he referred to it as draining the poisoned chalice. well, they may wind up in a a similar situation here where relinquishing the nuclear program is the only way they can stay in power. and the president would, i think, be comfortable with that exchange. >> so containing the nuclear program for iran was the objective of the 2015 nuclear agreement that the u.s. and five other countries embarked upon and managed to shape. trump dismantled it. biden put it back in place. so if you see the trump administration reaching a deal, will it be a very similar deal just simply rebranded? >> oh, i don't think so. not at all. the problem with the so-called joint comprehensive plan of action, the jcpoa, from 2015, is it didn't dismantle anything in iran. it just delayed their progress. and yes, president trump did cease compliance with the jcpoa in 2018. but what we saw was after 2021, this extreme acceleration of their nuclear activities, the the increase in centrifuges, the raising, the percentage

like for me, i start to lose heart with politics, with blair, with going into the iraq war.

in the mid 2000, when iran was doing resupply to iraq for ieds, killed a lot of american gis. so it's definitely personal for me, too, when i'm talking about these issues. but i think what we do, what we have to look at is we're going down the line with iran, right? is what does, you know, instability look like in the region? what what what is the refugee status look like? i can go through the pros and cons of iran all day. i just believe right now we don't have an administration that can make a decision based on the best interests of the u.s. there are too busy trying to appease foreign powers or political interests, regardless of what happens to us long term. and alex, i think that's what worries me. and, you know, i know if we had another hour, i could go through the pros and cons of iran. if you want me to try to do it in five minutes of taking them out and how it deals with russia, i can. but i think the worry for americans and for congress is that we have an administration that seems completely confused about what iran even is, what their military can do, or what would h

foundation of international law and human system . meanwhile, everyone's foreign minister at both iraq tree has said that is really a tax against the one in the middle of diplomatic process was a betrayal of diplomacy and unprecedented below to the foundation of international law and the united nations system model on that much move. right now, considering the policies we've adopted, we have the upper hand in terms of international law, international regulations. and in any case, human conscious, even when i speak with westerners, when they hear our arguments, they have nothing to say. we were negotiating, engaged in diplomacy, and then suddenly design this regime, launch this aggressive attack. what justification could this have? and why don't some countries condemn it? some countries contact us supposedly out of goodwill or whatever, saying let's de escalate, return to diplomacy. i say we were in the middle of diplomacy. what are we returning to we were in fact implementing diplomacy. meanwhile, it was for our administrative officer while she has held a meeting with me as counterpart

spirit that has over comes with people over here on that we have not seen since the end of the iran iraq war back to 1988. now i'm not sure if this is necessarily going to strengthen the hands of this law make republic. but what it will do is to make it significantly more difficult for him to achieve at school is cool. a, a goal that it has opened the stated is dismemberment. i'm fracturing of the wrong . and so far we have seen absolutely no indication of that. and as you mentioned, we've seen unprecedented solidarity and they've riley around the flag effecting a wrong that has been pervasive. ok, mahonnan come robert, we really appreciate you taking the time to join his hair on alex's era. thank you . thank you for having me. you know, according to the u. n's refugee agents a moving full, many of us guns who escaped war, i'm persecution, all living in iran. but the conflict between as well and drama is full some to attend to a country they left decades ago. all. hi there, my thoughts. it's on the stones major border crossing and 2 eoc increase in day to day seeing an influx of run refu

paul: jason there really is what you call an iraq syndrome here.s are old enough to remember the vietnam syndrome which the left used for a generation after vietnam to say no, no, no do not intervene anywhere now that syndrome is on the right and many mines say that did not work out while afghwellafghanistan did not wort well therefore no interventions. >> you have to judge each of these on their own terms. that's what this folks are failing to do using the blanket sentiment the world will be a better place if that u.s. withdrawals whom we know it won't be it is a more dangerous place when that u.s. withdrawals. no one in their right mind believes iran is enriching uranium for peaceful domestic energy purposes. no one believes that and to suggest they are fine, we can contain them after they have it israel is an existential threat. iran a seven want to wipe them off the math. thethey called u.s. the great sy tuned trump takes him at his word and they showed they are sponsoring terrorism worldwide there are a source of instability in the middle east

the region to the brink of disaster ad one has been holding talks with ron's foreign minister of us, iraq. she, as the dozens of most of nations, met and assembled to seek an end to the fighting a rock. she wanted the any us intervention and the war would be very dangerous. so let's listen to what the talk is shanita have to say. yeah. tell you, oh, you're truman with its attacks on june. 13th of the nothing yahoo government has actually aimed to sabotage is the negotiation process. heather, yes, the is what has been experienced over it. also shows that nothing yahoo and his network of murder does not want any issue to be resolved through diplomacy. just city of doran jones is following that story for us, and he joins us from a stumble. dorian, what do you make of president ad ones was as well, very much to be expected to present another one and even cold israel, a terrorist state. but the other one has be making the speeches nearly on a daily basis. and there is a profound concern here that of this conflict of that's going on the gates are wrong, could have profound. instead, impact on t

. >> hawk playbook that we saw with iraq, right?who never served in the. >> military, who were eager. >> to send other. >> people's kids. into war. >> that is not right. >> to your point. >> donald trump ran on being the guy. >> who ended wars. he's not ended anything thus far, and he seems to be escalating. but i think the biggest problem here is that donald trump has no real information. remember, he doesn't read his presidential daily briefings on a regular basis. so how is he making these decisions in terms of whether or not to move forward and go to war and authorize these military strikes? that's what i would like to know. >> well, he's got an intelligence briefing, apparently, later on today about 6 p.m, but ashley is vice president j.d. vance as he tried to play maga peacemaker while consistently blaming the biden administration for just about everything. he wrote a very lengthy social media post praising trump's restraint, saying people are right to be worried about foreign entanglements after the last 25 years of idiotic f

it's worse reminder, this is saying something it's worse than it was before iraq. and because the, the administration seems to be held that on distressing all intelligence in going ahead are going ahead with what they intend to do. i the word as that my best bet is that with russia and china, try me in here and telling mr. trump, this is a really bad idea. and with trump himself saying, well 2 weeks from now, maybe i still see a half a glass half full. i don't think the bench drum is stupid enough to join the netanyahu and let him be mouse crab fled from the mouse trap as well projected he would be if necessary, and yahoo stuck out after a run. okay. oh yes, i'm sure you say that must have gotten because we are actually watching in real time. being to boma is being moved from the us to guam, plenty of speculation as to what they're doing that because they of course, all the planes that can carry the fund combusting problems that the us would be using to be involved in a ron. i'm are also seeing from convening one, but to national security council meetings over the

the idf also saying that they targeted a military base in the west of iran, close to the border with iraq. but as you mentioned, the biggest sort of hit of the night as far as the idf was concerned were a couple of senior iranian military commanders in the quds force, an elite part of the irgc itself, an elite military unit side. azadi was the prime target who was killed. and the idf is saying the reason that he was targeted was because he was very close to hamas and that it played a leading role in in the october 7th attacks, helping build iranian support for hamas. that's what the idf has been saying. >> all right. nic robertson, thank you so much. let's bring in betsy klein now, who is in new jersey where the president is spending this saturday. so update us on what the president is now saying about any possibilities of u.s. involvement well, fredricka, what we are learning is that president trump has made clear that that self-imposed two week deadline is something that could actually is a maximum of time, and the president could make up his mind sooner. >> the president, of course, we

. >> but as a member of the military who had served in iraq, she gradually warmed to his largely anti-interventionist message. >> president trump has pledged. >> to end. >> wars, not start them late last year, she turned republican and endorsed trump. >> he picked her for his intelligence chief despite questions about her dealings with the now deposed dictator of syria. and all seemed fine. >> most of you know tulsi, she's a fantastic woman. >> but now gabbard is under scrutiny for the way she is handling her job, for spending too much time polishing her own public image, and for how she is dealing with trump and trump with her. >> why was tulsi gabbard not invited to the camp david meeting all day? >> you know why. >> national guard commitments reportedly kept her away from a key meeting on the mideast battles, but that did not keep big-name trump supporters from asking if she's lost his confidence. louisiana senator john kennedy reportedly said she obviously needs to change her meds. and although u.s. intelligence has said iran may yet be years from having a nuke, the white house is sending a much

you know, we've been there before in the middle east with iraq. we don't want to go that route again. the iranians could shut down the strait of hormuz, and that would significantly impact global economy. so there are all kind of risks that we need to make sure that we put the diplomatic effort first before we introduce the military. >> general, i want to focus on one particular action, and that would be relative to what the new york times is reporting that trump is seriously considering sending american aircraft to help refuel israeli combat jets, and then, of course, to bomb iran's deep underground nuclear site at fordo. and that would be with this 30,000 pound bunker buster, of which the united states is the only one that's able to do that and has the capability. so what is involved in this kind of military action? what would that look like? >> yeah, very complex operation. of course. we've been studying fordo now for years. used to be an old military base. now it's transitioned into a nuclear facility. we have a lot of intelligence. we know it

writing privately to the other permanent members of the council as the us is contemplating going into iraqfter saddam hussein has invaded kuwait, urging them to vote against his own country, you know, going to north korea with the clinton administration in 1994 telling him he's not president and not authorized to do anything, and then on cnn and announcing that he's just negotiated a deal with the north koreans. right. i mean, so there's it's a mixed. it's a mixed bag. there's lots of, you know, kind of, you know, good more. and he's unapologetic about it by the way, this is. hee hee hee hee hee hee hee. he never claims that he's going to be a quiet post president and. so, you know, it's interesting that both carter and president have had these reputational renaissance and they could not be going about it in more different ways. and with that, shows you is there's no perfect playbook for this. there's actually a speaking of opening the archives there's a wonderfully thick folder that were able to get declassified from. the george h.w. bush archive i forget the exact title on the folder but

against those who supported the iraq war.ers of congress want to be on the record on the use of military force against iran? >> that is a big question. i personally agree with senator barrasso, the president has the authority, talking about bunker busting bombs, he has a lot of leeway and a lot of authority to act on that. i understand what senator kaine is talking about but republicans are in the majority and they will stick with him. he will get the authority he needs. mike: from the foxhole was the previous administration honest and transparent about warmer president biden's mental for this, 28% yes, 68% no. here's the back-and-forth this week in the senate. >> my republican colleagues are holding this hearing apparently armchair diagnosing former president biden is more important than the issues of grave concern. >> not a single democrat is here today because not a single one of them gives a damn about the fact that they lied to the american people for four years. >> it's not just a refusal to participate. mike: as a form

stats july 12 this is the, the new slide from bullet. israel says it spells a serious blow to iraq's nuclear ambitions. the, it's really military assess overnight rates against rockets damage. the key is hon . nuclear research facility. it also says they've killed 3 top come on this. iran says more than 400 people have been killed in more than a week, or also coming off versus opposition sega stab. hey, c handle skis, fried off to 5 years behind foss, andrea and i did with his wife this with lima. his release, well as a meeting between a u, as in boy and the bill of russian leader.

only 16% of people want the country to enter the iraq, the iran war. freudian slip there, trump did was said he was opposed to the iraq war. now he's going to do it all over again. so i think the things he is pursuing might be popular with his hardcore base, but what we're seeing is a development of a pretty broad coalition. sometimes it's a weird coalition, far right and far left, that are opposing what he's doing. and he personally, his poll numbers are sinking like a stone. he's under 40% in several polls. so if i'm his people, i'm getting a little nervous, wondering what i have to do to kind of reclaim some popularity. and republicans are starting to look over their shoulder and say, do we want to follow this guy down the garden path? we may get wiped out in 226 2026. >> i'm so glad you ended there, because that's exactly where i want to pick up. jen's talking about looking forward to 2026. i need you to put on your political strategist hat here. part of why maga and the republican right was so successful is that they were able to tap into the noti

dilemma of deciding what to do, there will, of course, be echoes of america's military involvement in iraq in 2003 and the chaos that ensued. so just cast your mind back as a military historian to see how history could be potentially repeating itself. yeah. so the united states obviously has a very long and sordid history of regime change, dating all the way back to 1804, 1805. most recent episodes of this have not gone terribly well for the united states, and donald trump rose to the presidency twice, in part by railing against what he considered the foreign policy adventurism of the democratic party, and his pledge that the united states would no longer engage in nation-building efforts or to fight other people's, other nation's wars for them. and so i do think it is very highly unlikely that we could anticipate a scenario in which the united states is introducing ground forces into iran. in fact, i think that idea is probably we could categorise as absurd. what is not beyond the pale is the hope. whether or not it's an actual objective, is that the current air campaign can so weaken the