chairman, appa has concerns with respect to ferc application provided under epact 05. ferc re section 219 as a statutory requirement to offer a variety of transmission incentives to applicants and appears these entities have been helping themselves to those incentives and the commissioner has a stake in it sufficiently disciplined approach to the incentives. we appreciate your long held concern of the area and recent letter to ferc asking for an explanation of the use of incentives and we look forward to their response and working with the chairman of the issue. thank you. >> thank you, mr. nipper, and i appreciate the way they used the word in the testimony. the next witness is bland and english, she fixative officer of the national role electric cooperative association. but more significantly, he served in the united states congress for ten terms as one of our most distinguished members and it is our order to have you back before the subcommittee. whenever you are ready please begin. >> thank you. i appreciate that. i'm not sure why border directors would agree with

chairman, appa has concerns with the ferc, provided under epact 05. in regards to section 219 is the statutory requirement to offer a variety of transmission incentives to applicants and it appears that these entities have been helping themselves to these incentives and the commission has not taken a sufficiently disciplined approach to awarding rate incentives. we appreciate your long health concern in this area in your letter to ferc asking for their incentives and we look forward to their response and to working with the chairman on that issue. >> thank you very much. i appreciate the diplomatic way in which you used the word entity in your testimony. our next witness is glenn english. he is the chief executive officer of the national rural electric cooperative association, but more significantly, he served in the united states congress for ten terms as one of our most distinguished members and it's our honor to have you back before the subcommittee, glen, whr you're ready please begin. >> i appreciate that. i'm not sure my board of directors would