>> a couple quick things, on the karl rove bill, i just drove up overnight from alabama and i've been covering this thing for the last couple of years and i was just curious to ask you while i've got you here on -- do you have a clear indication of when this interview is going to take place with karl rove? >> the interview has been scheduled. that has been publicly stated. i cannot give you any more information about it. >> [ inaudible ] -- the deal that was made with karl rove about whether or not this is under oath or not, are you satisfied that this is going to be something that's under oath, that's going to be on the record that he can't sfli. >> we are satisfied by those terms quite specifically. when this issue came up, the only offer that we could get from the prior administration was essentially an informal chat, as chairman conyers put it, like inviting mr. rove could go down for fish and chips and chatting a little bit and see what happens. this will be an on the record fully transcribed record, every word transcribed not just the committee but evidence in the public. second

. >> always persuaded by anything that karl rove says. >> my view of it for what it's worth, i don't think this is a debate that should have been held in public but the extent it's being held, bring everything out you can. there of memos that speak to the efficacy of waterboarding i would like to read them. >> i agree. i think that other issues -- [inaudible] >> i don't understand -- >> right. >> suck all the air out of the white house when i read it. >> so many things in there that i think that should be investigated. >> very well. you would be interested to know there's a chapter in the book that says all the 9/11 commission recommendations should be implemented. >> okay. >> not just that. i was always for it. never understood why the administration was an impediment and never wanted you to do your job. how can you fix things unless you know exactly what went wrong? always my view. john lehman is a friend of sorts. he has been on my friends often and i enjoy him. >> great guy. >> he invited me -- i had a crush on patrick. >> thank you. >> i think i have. marina has been great and i

the proven success, karl rove in 2004, was that it's all very well throughout the great issues affecting america, the deep structural problems in all the fields i talked about, but you know, americans actually wont politics to be a branch of entertainment tonight. and enough already with the high debates. don't need that. americans are sort of -- it's a very, very pattronnizing view for roger ailes, the atwater, ed rollins, karl rove view. it's spin and, work did it come gloriously unstuck in the months of our travail, and it was obama -- it was -- it was specially obama that, guess what, america did want to hear about the things that mattered to the life and death of the republic. 2005 and 2006 sealed that possibility or at least i think gave obama the audacity to actually try and, hey, sentences, something which hasn't happened for a while. [applause] >> and those of us going around the country, i wasn't just the gradual sense in which we had all been sold a bill of goods about the weapons of mass destruction the relationship between the iraq war and 9/11 or the nonrelationship, but al

what he meant by that was the proven success also of course karl rove in 2004 was that it's all very about the great issues affecting america. , and all the fields i talked about. but americans actually want politics to be a branch of entertainment tonight. enough already with the high debates. don't need that. americans are sort of a juice dish is a very, very patronizing view, the atwater, ed rawlins, karl rove view. it's a view. it's called television appetizing. wow, did it come gloriously on stock in the month of our prevailed last year. it was obama's bats, i think, it was probably hillary is also, but it was especially a bomb is. guess what, america did want to hear about the things which actually mattered to the life and death of the republic. 2005 and 2006 sealed a possibility or at least i think he obama the audacity to actually try and, hey, finish his sentences which hadn't happened in a while. [applause] >> and those of us going around the country, you know, it wasn't just a gradual sense with which we had all been sold a bill of goods about weapons of mass distraction a

caller: why are you quoting karl rove who is neither a nurse or doctor? under registered nurse for 35 years now. of course we can fix it. the first thing is that you cut out the for-profit. it does not mean that you cannot make a profit. you can make a nice living at a cap of $250,000. second, you need to get rid of the insurance -- but they are terrible, like mafia or something. you get rid of that and you have that the public system. right now medicare would work beautifully if there were no doubt in it, kicking people out of hospitals in two days and then readmitting him and gudgeon the costs. it is really bad. the second thing -- and gauging the cost. use nurse practitioners, pay doctors medical school. you do this by every year the practice and take away their debt. host: are you still practicing nurse? caller: 08 yes, i worked in nursing homes and have worked in every area. public health, and the public health department in the city of chicago. it worked beautifully in the head clinics. it was dismantled along with everything in chicago. ronald reag

guest: look, i think it is fair to argue that karl rove has not been a successful purveyor of health care reform. the kicking the can down the road that we have seen in the past administration is simply not the way we want to play this. having a public plan, as the past -- president has stated many times, is perfectly consistent with his goals of lowering cost of guaranteeing coverage and making sure that affordable, quality care is available to all americans. let us be clear about this -- come back to what i said earlier -- the public plan is one part of obama health care reform. private plans stay very much in place. if you like what you have, you can keep it. i think sometimes they hold a public plan out there as if that is the only piece of this, and in fact, it is not. it helps to achieve cost containment, helps to achieve affordable health care. the private states for much in place. host: chief economic adviser for vice president biden. the first caller is from new orleans. caller: good morning. there is a not unwanted perception out here that' washington does not listen to the

i feel karl rove and dick cheney are giving rush limbaugh the talking points. host: we'll have to leave it there. linda on our republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning. i feel like they are going to have to change anyway. women already have the right to do many things over there. even if ahmadinejad descends, there will be changes. what the people on his side don't want are these underground raised drinking clubs and where children are nightclubbing and partying. they don't want that over there. it's not going to happen over there. they will rise up against that. host: do you think if he does win a secretary term, what do you think it means as far as our discussions and concerns about iran and the nuclear program and other issues the united ç has with iran? caller: i think somebody with a good head on his shoulders like obama, that ahmadinejad will be able to deal. i think they will talk. i think a lot of what we hear is the fact that iran and north korea -- these countries don't want us acting like a bully. if we talk to them in a level headed manner a

documentary called "the prosecutions of karl rove." in fact, his organization is one where you have to think -- you have to think for cooperating for putting together this program. some others restore justice -- also the alliance for justice, and the project: a save justice is our other major sponsor. . . i am not going to introduce everyone, but that is the road map for today. what i will do is introduce our next speaker, who talked about travel. he came in the middle seats on a red dye from arizona just to be here with you today. it is scott horton, a lawyer, professor at hofstra university, and he is a columnist for "harper's," perhaps the leading scholar of the critic of the u.s. justice department's misconduct in various ways and rigorous recording, applying it to these cases. scott, you came a long way to be with us. what is it you would like to share? >> thank you. [applause] >> thank you for that introduction, andrew. i would like to bring the focus of our talk today a little bit more narrowly down to the question of prosecutor

rove, newt gingrich, thomas so, victor davis hansen, shelby steel, charles kroutheimer, michele malkin, fred barnes and so many others. let's give thanks to them for not giving up and staying the course to bring an end to this false prophet, obama. that's what i said pretty much this morning. and now i have the honor, you know, the honor to be with you and to introduce such such a wonderful array of great people who i'm so honored to be, you know, able to introduce to you tonight. since 1976, orrin hatch has served the people of utah with distinction and honor. in the senate, we can -- and by the way, i met orrin hatch, and isn't he -- i mean, you know i'm in the movies and sometimes people see me they say gee, you're taller that inthought you were or you know, whatever it is. or you're not as old as i thought. i say that. but really, they never say that. but when i saw orrin hatch because i'd only seen him on shows you know where his face is on television and he's usually addressing very serious subjects so he's very, you know, has a very serious demeanor. but i found out wonderful th

there will be on the record interviews under penalty of prosecution of both miers and karl rove. in the interviews are done, all of that material will be available to the public with additional conclusions from the committee and the possibilities of hearings at some point. we're not done in that area. we have seen enormous abuses of power that had begun to be corrected. congress passed an important law limiting the ability of the attorney general to simply appoint people as u.s. attorney without senate confirmation. the abuses that occurred just in that respect are truly astonishing. there is more to come, unfortunately. there was a politicization of hiring at the department. the centerpiece of the committee investigation was the living testimony of limonica goodwin with knitted she used political factors in recommending career attorneys. this led to another investigation that further documented problems there and in the justice department of program and summer internship program. i am happy to say that we now have a new attorney general who has clearly committed to the complete

rove, newt gingrich, thomas so, victor davis hansen, shelby steel, charles kroutheimer, michele malkin, fred barnes and so many others. let's give thanks to them for not giving up and staying the course to bring an end to this false prophet, obama. that's what i said pretty much this morning.@@@@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ to introduce such a wonderful group of great people, who i am excited to be able to introduce to you tonight. since 1976, orrin hatch has served utah with honor. in the senate -- isn't he -- i am in the movies. people say i am taller than they thought. or you are not as old as i thought you were. they never said that. when i saw orrin hatch, i'd only shown him on shows. n him on shows you know where his face is on television and he's usually addressing very serious subjects so he's very, you know, has a very serious demeanor. but i found out wonderful things about orrin hatch. when i ask people about orrin hatch, they light up. because obviously, he has this other side that i'm not familiar with. and he's full of fun. he's a charming man. he's very impressive physically. when i me

and then there was karl rove. again, these people must be bread out in the bushes somewhere. and i'm wondering, who is the next turd blossom? who is the next one in line who is out there in some little institute waiting to be tacked by some new presidential? now, the favor i need to ask of you, and this is a very important one. during your process of interviewing nominees in the next presidential election, anyone who comes up with a whole process of saying they're religious and like a hucka by or a palin, would you please, ask them one question for me. do they believe in the rapture? i would love to hear the answer to that. and i will take your responses off line. guest: look, this candidate, senator obama also professed to have this deep religious faith and one of the best interviews i did with him was actually with news week's religious writer and she pushed him on all of these shuss and concepts. -- issues and concepts. and she had a knowledge that i didn't and it was enlightening. you do want to push candidates. you want to see whether they can go beyond their talking poi

rove, again the succession of these people must be read out in the bushes somewhere and i'm wondering who is the next toward blossom, the next one in line in some little institute waiting to be capped by a new presidential -- the favor i need to ask and this is very important. >> guest: go ahead. >> caller: during your process interviewing nominees in the next presidential election, anyone who comes up for the process singing the or religious like huckabee or palin would you please, you and your colleagues ask one question for me, do they believe in the rapture? i'd love to hear the answer to that and i will take your response is offline. >> guest: look, this candidate, senator obama also professed to have his deep religious faith and one of the best interviews i did with him was actually with "newsweek"'s religious right her and she pressed him on all of these religious issues and concepts and honestly she had a knowledge of the subject i didn't and it blows in lightning. you do want to push candidates. you actually do want to see whether they can go beyond their talking points and t