and so to discuss that we have three panel cysts, and first -- panelists, and first will be ken katzman. he's a senior analyst for the research service, and he's not speaking for crs or any member or committee of commerce. he joined crs in 1991 in the aftermath of the liberation of kuwait, and he has twice been detailed to the house foreign affairs committee, and he's responsible for iraq, iran, and afghanistan policy. following ken will be ilan berman, vice president for policy of the american foreign policy council and an expert on regional security in the middle east, central asia and the russian federation. he is consulted with both the cia and the department of defense and provided assistance on foreign policy and national security matters to a range of governmental agencies and congressional offices. he is an adjunct professor, he's a member of the committee on the present danger and the editor of the journal for international security affairs. he is the author of articles, books, and most recently edited the book, taking on tehran: strategies for confronting the islamic republi