pactel is embarrassed to use a bill in my state with a constituent stood up and ask me a question and the question following a speech at a rotary club and senate mr. isaacson i only graduate from high school and i really can't deal with a trillion -- can you tell me how much that is? thing for a second, what would your answer have been two that question? it's kind of hard to explain which million dollars this so i went home and i worked on it. if you converted dollars to seconds and you said, how many seconds will it take -- how many years will it take for a trillion seconds to pass and it is three his 17,097 years, 11 months and today this. and that is a lot. so the point is when we talk about the cost cbo has scored a talk about pay for some talk about savings, we need to make sure we're getting it right because that type of astronomical growth and that would cost is huge. case in point, the president of the united states on tuesday or monday when he spoke to the american medical association talked about the savings we are going to take place because of this proposal and he used the