we talk about these unskilled jobs but anyone who has worked such a job knows there is no such thing as an unskilled job there is just wal-mart was one of the few places where there were call skills and recognized and not always in the way you would hope at least very publicly very explicitly and it had a real impact so a lot will say, look, we know we weren't being paid well and we know this is not the best deal and a son but it wasn't the worst deal either when you look at what the options were. as one of the things i appreciated. >> host: you're overall approach is so apathetic to all of the characters and you really try to inhabit their world and kind of understand things their eyes and so really engaged their own sense of the value of their work in the case of these women and i think that that really helps us to get at this phenomenon in a way that we have been able to before because people haven't looked -- there's been a lot of judgment in looking in and out that kind of empathetic view, and somehow you do manage to do both because you also to talk about the fact that wal-mart

with a plea to the court to treat these men as if they were -- not treat these men as if there were unskilled labor. we trade firefighters as if it does not require knowledge to do the job. when they open? -- when i opened my brief, eddie ramos died [unintelligible] because [unintelligible] the nature of the pins that hold teh trusses together collaposed. the -- i am not being histrionic. that happens all the time. if you cannot pass an exam, there are substantive questions. i think the only title-7 interest vice president dick cheney -- >> we're not suggesting that unqualified people be hired. the city is not suggesting that. there is a difference between where you score on the test and how many openings you have an to the effect and if -- the extent there is an adverse impact on one group or another so that this first seven who will be hired only because of the vagrancies of the vacancies of that moment, not because you are unqualified. the pass rate is the pass rate. but if your test is going to always put a certain group at the bottom of the pass rate so they are never going to be promote

the dominant and landscaping, but those are all semi-skilled, unskilled jobs. they have always been fairly low pay. most people, most immigrants can qualify to do that. but if you have -- they're not many illegal immigrants hvac people out there. the train did jobs that require skills still have a future. i'm not so negative about our country. the trouble is we have to many americans who cannot read a tape measure and are not very host: treatable anyway here is the front page of "the washington times." it has been four months and post than obama has yet to criticizing the project from the economic stimulus package despite his february 20 pledge that if federal or state agencies tried to slip any bad spending through he would call them out. the complaints about bomb projects are piling up. senator tom coburn from oklahoma a release report last week to define one projects he said were wasteful or silly. the obama administration has not accept his criticisms and defends the spending from bike paths to total bridges to road sign advertising. here is mount pleasant

but many of those students went into unskilled jobs that don't exist any more. and we have to change. we need a country that's unified. and in which we have opportunity for all. host: midwest city, oklahoma. democrat's line. caller: i don't think you all have really looked at the public school system i know with my children i had a son who had an english teacher that was teaching chemistry. all he did was look up definitions for the whole semester. and of course he received an a for that class. i have another in the algebra class. i go meet with the teacher. he asked me, is he in my low skill no fail class? and i was stunned? he had a class that no matter what the students grade was he could not give them anything less than a d because they had to pass. it was a no fail class. so i think we really need to look at our school system and we need to pay our math and science teachers appropriately. that's all i have to say. guest: i think you've made incredibly important points. and they are very much in synch with the commission report. we have to -- the standards m