i think there is a culture of abuse and i agree with richard herman. i don't think the inception of the diction was with the incident of the hair catching on fire. think it was all the abuse that made him disregulated and unable to soothe without drugs. >> ian drew, back to the topic. when will we get some sort of resolution on the murder investigation? >> well, we're hoping in two weeks or less. that's the deadline we've been given and we'll see because there's more and more coming out of that obviously. ♪ dirt in my eye ♪ my baby it don't matter if you're black or white ♪ >>> the latest in the double murders. to ed lavendera at the sheriff's office, pensacola, florida. what is the latest? >> reporter: well, we understand that authorities here are saying that they are approaching the end of their investigation. we've had a lot of interesting details come out throughout the day. the latest they have found the safe that they say was stolen from the billings home and the weapon and the weapon they believe was used in the murders so we understand th

yes, no, richard herman? >> no. but look at the psychological damage on michael of the beatings he took with switches and belts and straps at the hands of his father. >> penny? >> nancy, i have to say, i understand what his cousin is saying. i grew up in south carolina. i've been in many churches where i've heard sermons about spare the rod, spoil the child. these people believe they are doing the right thing. >> well, i don't know what your southern lineage has to do with anything, because jackson was raised in gary, indiana, and california, but whatever. to bethany marshall. what about it? >> well, mr. myron said he hit them with a belt when they didn't clean their room. that's not discipline, that's abu abuse. i agree with mr. herman. i don't think the inception of the addiction was with the incident of the hair catching on fire. i think it was all the abuse that made him disregulated and traum taz tooized and una able to self-soothe without drugs. >> back to the topic, when will we get some sort of resolution on

i agree with richard herman. i don't think the inception of the addiction was with the incident with the hair catching on fire. i think it was the abuse that made him unable to self-soothe without drugs. >> to ian drew, back to the topic. when will we get some sort of resolution on the murder investigation? >> we're hoping in two weeks or less. and we'll see because there's going to be more and more coming out of that obviously. ♪ >>> the latest in the double murders of this beautiful couple leaving 16 children orphaned. to ed lavandera, cnn correspondent, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, we understand that authorities here are saying they are pushing the end of their investigation. we've had a lot of interesting details come out today. the latest is that they have found the safe stolen from the home and they've found the weapons and weapon they believe was used in those murders. we understand those weapons are being sent off for testing and authorities are in the process of processing what was in the safe

and i agree with richard herman. i don't think that the induction of the addiction was with the incident of the hair catching on fire. i think it was all the abuse that made him disregulated and traumatized and unable to self-soothe without drugs. >> so ian drew, senior editor "us weekly" magazine, ian, back to the topic. >> yeah. >> when will we get some sort of resolution on the murder investigation? >> well, we're hoping in two weeks or less. that's the deadline we've been given. and we'll see because there's going to be more and more coming out of that, obviously. ♪ dirt in my eye ♪ my baby it don't matter if you're black or white ♪ ññño i'm sorry. i can't hear you very well. announcer: does someone you know have trouble hearing on the phone? dad. dad, let me help you with that, okay? announcer: now, a free phone service shows captions of everything a caller says. i'd like to make an appointment to see the doctor. announcer: to learn more about captioned telephone, call 1-800-552-7724

susan moss, penny douglass furr, richard herman. renowned defense attorney out of new york. welcome to all of you. richard herman, if this is not a criminal investigation, then why are police seizing evidence? >> it's an investigation, nancy. but instead of a homicide, it should be a suicide investigation because after the memorial, scores of people were interviewed to say how brilliant michael jackson was. scores of people were interviewed saying they knew about his drug use and they told him to stop, stop, stop and he kept doing it and he died. he was a junkie who died. it happens every day in the united states. >> to dr. bill halibeck, toxicologist. he's an emergency medicine physician. thank you for being with us. doctor, in contrast to what attorney richard herman has just blurted out, i doubt very seriously that michael jackson is responsible for putting fresh track marks on his neck. that would be virtually impossible to do, to shoot yourself up in the neck. >> yeah. you know, shooting yourself in the neck, people who are drug abusers, they try to find any type of vei

richard herman, bradford cowen. richard, will this be a factor in this case against him that he's facing foreclosure? even though he owes a $1.65 million home? and that he's had these liens and judgments against him and had a bankruptcy in '92? is that just water under the bridge and irrelevant? >> jane, as a lawyer, you know that's going to be irrelevant. they're not going to let that in. it's going to muddy the waters. we have to go to the facts here. what happened in that mansion? what happened that day? what did this doctor do? did he prescribe medications? what's the issue with diprivan? was diprivan provided by this doctor in a lethal dose? that's the issue. >> i don't know about that. >> go ahead. >> i don't completely agree with him. it's not completely irrelevant if they can link it to the motive. the motive is this. if you're a state attorney, you can get there and say to yourself and say this doctor was blinded by the light. needed the money. he was enamored by the stars and hi gave him whatever he wanted

you're richard herman. defense attorney. bradford cowen, defense attorney. analyze the fact they go first to the houston office and then six days later, according to some reports, it was because they were having a little power struggle between the various law enforcement, between l.a. and las vegas. six days later, they raid the las vegas home of dr. conrad murray. they find a lot of stuff but they don't find the smoking gun of propofol. richard? >> i was just telling you, it's a huge mistake on their part. no matter what happened in terms of power struggle or anything like that, when you serve a search warrant on one area and wait six days and serve a search warrant on another area of the same individual, it doesn't take a genius to get rid of whatever evidence there could be. not saying that he did. he had six days to get rid of it. it was a huge mistake on their part. i don't know how it went down in terms of a power struggle. that's why whenever they do raids they always coordinate, boom, boom, they hit them at the same time. this person can't call that

avery friedman, and richard herman. richard, i'll begin with you, because it seems immediately an invasion of privacy. but now you got to figure out who is sculptable here. does she go after the hotel? does she go after, you know, security or lack thereof? the internet? i mean, who is policing that these days? what recourse does she have? >> do you think when al gore discovered the internet, he thought things like this would happen? i don't know. but she's going to bring a massive lawsuit. i think she'll sue the hotel. they are definitely going to find this person who did this. they are absolutely going to find him. they have a screen name. there are footprints left by this. there will be civil lawsuits at a minimum against people. they will try to bring criminal lawsuits. you know, it's one thing to be a peeping tom as an individual. it's another thing to -- to broadcast this stuff over the internet. >> right. >> the crimes are much more severe, and she's going to have her day in court. the question is, is this guy goi