that information eventually made it to the fbi. the fbi launched an investigation. one law official tells me that the names of none of these young men had shown up on their radar before. the names of the individuals were passed on to pakistani authorities as persons of interest and then we have the arrests in pakistan. the pakistani authorities are definitive that indeed the young men they picked up were the men missing from virginia. they say they tried to hook up with terrorist groups in pakistan but were not successful in doing so. the u.s. officials are not going that far. their operating belief is that these are the five young men from northern virginia but they cannot confirm that information at this point in time. and they underline that at this point no charges have been filed against anyone. >> larry: do the parents know that the boys were going overseas? >> from what i understand, they were concerned about this. and there was a video left behind by one of the young men. as it's been described by some of the individuals you'll be talking to here tonight, it

there is little police or the fbi can do to stop these radicalizers. they are protected by legal rights in a country they detest. less strident than revolution muslim is an american-born preacher anwaral alaki. >> quite a mix of people he has met in his travels including three of the 9/11 hijackers. he received e-mails from ft. hood shooting suspect nidal hasan. more from my colleague nick robertson in a moment. thanks for coming. it was rea@dy nice to meet you, a.j. yeah, you too. a.j.? (alarm blasting) (screaming) (phone rings) hello? this is bill with broadview security. is everything okay? no. there's this guy - he just smashed in my door. i'm sending help right now. thank you. (announcer) brink's home security is now broadview security. call now to install the standard system for just $99. the proven technology of a broadview security system delivers rapid response from highly-trained professionals, 24 hours a day. call now to get the $99 installation, plus a second keypad installed free. and, you could save up to 20% on your homeowner's insurance

i was talking with one of my fbi friends -- yes, i have fbi friends. [laughter] i have been learning the culture. i said to my friend, joe, you cannot even handle your black fbi agents. what are you going to do with muslim americans? and what are you quick to do with somebody from baghdad? you can even handle our minorities. you are still getting the ability to read us. so we have agencies that are supposed to prevent something they cannot see from a people and from a cold -- and from a cult and a subculture that has twisted the their religion. they use ham handed proxy's. there is good profiling and bad profiling durin. my friend says, connie, we have to stop it. you cannot. you cannot do it without the people who know this part of the world, this part of humanity. this is what you have your burden. do not worry. we have had our burden. we have carried it for 400 years. we have to help you in the job because all you can do it. the very people we need, we are driving away. that is the problem appeared the people that we can speak the language are the p

i think the fbi is trying to figure that out themselves. >> frank, thank you. more now on the suspect. we've been reporting that the alleged bomber is nigerian, that he departed from lagos and joined northwest flight 253 in amsterdam. paula newton has done intensive reporting in nigeria and yemen where this suspect reportedly says he got the device. also with us, cnn international's muhammad jamjun. our sources are claiming he says he got the device in yemen. the question seems to be surrounding what this thing is that he tried to set fire to and how he got it from yemen to lagos to amsterdam and to detroit. and what is the connection to yemen? >> what's interesting here -- let's talk about -- jeanne meserve was bringing up earlier about what you can bring onto a plane. the difference between being able to bring something -- a small quantity of something that's dangerous on a plane, which you can still do right now. but the fact of trying to detect it all is impossible. what authorities have tried to do is make sure they can contain the threat. we had the liqui

there is little police or the fbi can do to stop these radicalizers. they are protected by legal rights in a country they detest. >> less strident than revolution muslim is an american-born preacher anwaral alaki. >> young, handsome, california yan. >> quite a mix of people he has met in his travels, including three of the 9/11 hijackers. he received e-mails from ft. hood shooting suspect nidal hasan. just to name a few. more from my colleague nick robertson in a moment. if you're using other moisturizing body washes, you might as well be. you see, their moisturizer sits on top of skin, almost as if you're wearing it. only new dove deep moisture has nutriummoisture, a breakthrough formula with natural moisturizers... that can nourish deep down. it's the most effective natural nourishment ever. new dove deep moisture with nutriummoisture. superior natural nourishment for your skin. i like having fun -- but i always use one. we used one just last night. it was awesome. knowing you're safe makes it even more pleasurable. hey, the guys on my team, we'll sh

the fbi in mi5 had better be good. thank you very much. [applause] >> we do have time for some questions. >> frank fletcher. my question is, could you speak to this special relationship between mi5 and the fbi and you might want to comment also on the relations between mi5 and mi. >> yes. well unfortunately the 24 hours necessary to answer that question will force me to be fairly brief but j. edgar hoover is the only foreign counterintelligence officer who has ever been awarded the night could. the only example i think i have time, but i will respond to the mi5 fsis question is the first aircraft allowed into u.s. airspace after 9/11 was the day after 9/11. it was the 12th of december of 2001 and contained the chief of the fsis, the deputy director-general of mi5, stephen land had to stay behind to brief blair, and also the director of gchq which just about everybody here knows is nsa and they were quist strayed off two langle four extensive and pretty fraught discussions. so far as mi5 and sis is concerned follicly to my surprise i was al

fbi or u.s. attorneys can be productive and helpful in this situation, and finally, we have a president who is creating a different atmosphere and space for discourse with the muslim world. this is very important. the answer is not to change who we are or how we react. but to be more of who we are and to continue to do what we do best. >> thank you, dr. zogby. thank you. mr. mccloud-ball. >> thank you, madam chairwoman. good morning, chairwoman harman. thank you very much, ranking member mccaul and other members of the subcommittee. thank you for inviting the aclu to testify about speech rights while examining violent ex-freedomism. 1964 barry goldwater said extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. extremism is nothing more than a chosen set of beliefs and as such protectedeneder the first amendment. an extremist ideology in and of itself must not bring on government censure. violent acts deserves condemnation. this hearing is entitled "violent extremism." violent is inherently harmful. ex

the fbi had little idea of them before they turned up in pakistan. this is part of a new trend we are seeing. more radicalization in the united states over the last couple years. we have seen about 11 cases of terrorism in the last six months. and also seeing more americans going out and training with militant groups in pakistan over the last year. we is a seen about a dozen americans going there in the last year, which represents a surge in the number of americans getting the training that can make that dangerous terrorists potentially, larry. >> larry: petr the fact they were arrested in pakistan. what does that tell you? we don't have peter? sorry. what does that tell you? the fact they were arrested? >> it tells us there was a lot of collaboration. this is a success story in terms of the muslim community gives information to the nib and the fbi was able to collaborate to bring these people in to custody to stop them from launching attacks in after zban stan. it seems from the video, what we have heard, they were against what the united states was

we did that right after 9/11 because the cia and the fbi weren't talking to each other and so that's why the director of intelligence was created. this information was sent to cia and i do not believe leon panetta or the cia would have kept that from the director of intelligence. if they got it to him i'm confident he would disseminate it to the homeland security and everybody else. and that man being on the watch list should have been checked very thoroughly before he got on there. not to mention that he didn't have luggage. he bought a one way ticket. he paid cash. he came from nigeria. he came through -- i mean, come on. this guy should have been checked. he should never have been on that plane representative burton is staying with us because i've got lots more questions for him. we will also be joined by our political observers. who do they think is to blame? maybe most important what do we do about the problem now? >>> welcome back to "larry king live." as promised congressman dan burton is sticking with us. also joining us out of los angeles ben stein, economist. he served as a

we did that right after 9/11 because the cia and fbi weren't talking to each other, and so that's why the director of intelligence was created. this information was sent to cia, and i do not believe leon panetta or the cia would have kept that from the director of intelligence. if they got it to him, i'm confident he would dishe sem natu disseminate it to homeland security. he should have been checked thoroughly before he got on there. not to mention he didn't have luggage and bought a one-way ticket and paid cash and he came from nigeria and he came through -- imean, come on. he should have never been on that plane. >> representative burton is staying with us, because i have lots more questions for him. we'll be joined by political observers. who do they think is to blame, and what do we do about the problem now? we'll be right back. thing as taking a chance? as having to decide to go for it? at the hartford, we help businesses of all kinds... feel confident doing what they do best. by protecting your business, your property, your people. you've counted on us for 200 years. let's emb

we need you to intervene at the fbi. we want this fbi to testify in front of congress, and what did he say to me? larry, i like your suit. and i said, what do you mean, you like my suit? what lute are you talking about? >> he said, i like your suit. >> i said, is it the case we have for special agent robert wright? he says, no, i like the suit you're wearing, where'd you get it? i said, i got it down in brazil when i was down there visiting peter paul, another subject in my book. it tells you what they're doing up there on capitol hill -- and i wish i was in washington today, i'll be there in the next few days to tell them to their face -- and that is it's self-aggrandizement. it's senate cuff links. it's suits. it's hairdos, it's hair dye. it's status. it's power. but it's not the american people, and it's not the people of the world. >> host: you're -- >> guest: and that's where this book cuts right to the chase. >> host: you're right, after 9/11 you write we mounted our own antiterrorism effort of sorts and filed laws

this will be hopefully the afghan fbi. we have ten fbi agents on the ground right now, dea agents on the ground, military partners with us, the british working with this element. i could go on. we have a lot of different initiatives that are out there. they aren't seen right now. they're not visible. we tend to spend all of our time talking about one individual or one particular case. but at the end of the day, it is the spade work going on out there steadily, training of civil servants, training of law enforcement agencies, things as simple as trying to improve procedures. minister of finance recently told secretary clinton at dinner, very proudly, that he had overseen an effort in kabul to reduce the steps required to get a license for a car from 54 steps in one month to three steps in a couple of hours. that's not a headline story in "the new york times" but that probably has more to give us bigger results in a fight against corruption than one middle level criminal put behind bars. so just steady work. >> general petra

if the fbi that is able to meet our ambitions -- if the fbi net. officials from dhs and boeing had told congress that the program is back on track, past programs are resolved, and everyone is ready to move forward. we find out the problems have not been fixed and there continues to be delays. today we are hearing the same story. after months of being told fbi net is ready for deployment, the gao was reporting the technology had many of the same because it has had for years. the program is too important to keep missing out and it needs to get back on track. how much closer are we now than we were two years ago to having an operational system that works the way we have envisioned without the operational shortfalls that have been evident in the past? >> that is a good question. i do not have the complete answer. the testing regimes that had been designed for block 1 are more rigorous than they were 428. xd-- for project 28. we are seeing the same kinds of issues we have seen in camera projects from the 1990's about range, effectiveness. we will find o

that's the department of justice and the fbi. so there's a shared responsibility to keep us safe, but there's shared accountability. when the president says we need to look at the watch list, i think he's onto go the. what is the mentality and the culture, what are we going to do to make sure more information, particularly with that kind of information that sends warning signals out, gets to the people that can act on it. whether you're in the battlefield in iraq or afghanistan or a screener at the airport, you need actionable nfg. i'm not sure all this information was in the hands of tsa at the time. >> larry: should the president have spoken sooner? >> well, i think those decisions -- i'm going to leave that to the white house. i think he had secretary napolitano out there speaking, and i think she clarified that one -- the statement she made yesterday. i understood what she was talking about. i don't think any right thinking person actually believed that secretary napolitano thought the system worked. obviously, it was flawed.

the remains of the device are being sent to an fbi expos of ladd in quantico for analysis. -- explosive lab in quantico for analysis. back to the phones -- orlando, fla., an airline for democrats. -- on our line for democrats. should we real bed -- reevaluate our watch list? caller: my problem is that i cannot understand how he got anything that was explosive, incendiary or whatever on the plane. i travel a lot. last month by came from jamaica and they confiscated a repellent. host: do you think they took that as a result of some kind of profiling? caller: there is a list of stuff you cannot take on airplanes. repellent? host: did they tell you what they're concerned about? caller:no, it was on a list. jamaica has mosquitos and you need repellent. host: i understand we will move on. turn down your television or radio, ok? caller: i have been on the waiting list for a while. i was going to talk about the man that called before may. e. he was saying about the guy that was on the plane was trying to blowball plane up. -- blow the whole airplane up. all this stuff about race, i am white and

there had been warnings from the at least one fbi agent to washington about the concerns he had with the people who were getting the flight lessons and he was told, well that is above your pay grade. we have got it under control. and nobody did. it really worries me that that could ever happen again. one issue totally different, i mention this in my opening statements, the h2a worker bees up. worker visas. the fact that dairy farmers cannot use this program is a problem. it makes little since when you consider the reason for h2a worker visa programs. it is a problem in wisconsin, in a problem in every state that has the dairy industry. i have commented formerly to a rulemaking process and of its written to secretary solis about this. age to waive rules from sheepherders to obtain h2a visas, even though the job is exactly what prevent dairy farmers from obtaining workers and that is really not fair. i suggested we-- i'm not with suggesting we cut it from them but to encourage the labor department to make the rules necessary on the h2a program. >> mr. chair, yes and we have been workin

secondly, this bears a eerie resemblance of what happened before 9-11 in minneapolis when the local fbi agent questions a man who was taking flight lessons and appeared to represent some kind of threat to the united states and the local fbi agent tried his best to get his superiors in washington to authorize a foreign intelligence search warrant of moussauoi's possessions, could not get national fbi to cooperate. nobody told the cia and we will never know whether the information that could of been obtained for moussauoi before september 11th could of prevented the attack. so it's happened again. >> jeffrey: susan, let's go to that issue. there was inte intelligence on s young man. it wasn't shared or decisions were made not to follow-up. >> i think we need to try to understand the nuts and bolts, reverse en near what happened. >> the first question i would ask apart from the questions of the actual interview is when the group met to discuss this in the embassy. what information, what additional information were they able to obtain by going back to their agencies to learn to, bring to be

>> donaghy: because the fbi did a thorough investigation, and even the n.b.a. concluded that i did not fix games in the n.b.a. >> simon: that's right. a 29-year f.b.i. veteran, special agent philip scala, led the investigation of donaghy. he told us that donaghy convinced him. >> scala: he said, "knowing the information that i had, i didn't have to do anything on the court to pick a winner. i could pick a winner 80% of the time just knowing what i knew an hour before the game." and watching the tapes, we could see that there was never something outlandish, where you could see he called a foul or he omitted a foul because he wanted to see a certain team win. we never saw that. >> simon: the n.b.a.'s investigation came to the same surprising conclusion. "it seems plausible to us that donaghy may not have manipulated games. we are unable to contradict the government's conclusion." when you were reffing a game, didn't it come to your mind that you'd bet on one team and not on the other? >> donaghy: i tried to put it out of my mind, and i think that that i was able

because it appears to be organized and widespread, the fbi should look into whether this is a criminal enterprise. the president's close ties with acorn, dating back over 15 years, are of additional concern. president obama previously served as acorn's lawyer, participated in acorn training programs in chicago, and sat on the boards of two organizations that provided funding to acorn's chicago chapter. just last year, his campaign misrepresented that it had paid more than 800,000 to an offshoot of acorn. the obama campaign initially said that they used this for polling. there really use the money for the same types of voter registration project that have mired acorn in criminal investigations in at least 12 states. the president's ties to acorn take any conclusion that the justice department may reach with regard to whether or not to investigate and prosecute acorn employees. that is why i requested date the attorney journal -- i have requested that the attorney general appoint a special prosecutor. congress also has an obligation to investigate the apostle -- the possibly illegal cond

had to do is give names and identification to the fbi in washington d.c.. give their destinations come all of the stops they were going to make and their intent when they made the stops. so it filtered down through all these cities where they made their stops. but as you get further south you get into the klan country and there were plans were policemen and fbi and so they knew and they would tell their friends we've got eight or ten or 11 freedom riders coming and this is what they look like and this is who they are so they knew it, exactly who to attack. that was a bittersweet day for natural, may 14, mother's day. john lewis was on the original freedom ride, but he signed up for the peace corps, and somewhere between rock hill and anniston he had to get off the freedom ride. she came back to nashville so he was in nashville when all this happened. john symbol -- seigenthaler was there when the attacks on birmingham it was his job to see that they were able to get out of birmingham and to new orleans because it was too dangerous with what had happened the

sears tower, fbi bomb plot. adam gadan. terrorist cell i mentioned earlier. ft. dix six. somali americans disappear from minneapolis. we've just heard about that. bronx terror plot. 14509ing at the arkansas military recruiting station. naji bulla zazi. tariq, nidal hasan and most recently the five in alexandria, virginia. this is a long list. i don't want just to liftie arab-americans or muslim-americans, but this is a long list of u.s. residentses or u.s. citizens in most cases who are somehow experimenting with terror, and while i agree with you, mr. zogby, we need a scalpel not a sledgehammer and i agree that we should focus on actual terrorist acts, and not someone's belief system i truly agree with that, we need to do something here. we need to intervene. hopefully we will not intervene after the fact, but we will find exactly the right place to intervene to prevent these terror actions. so our second two witnesses, dr. weine and dr. craigin suggested ways to learn more. i'd like to ask our first two witnesses what strategies do you think we, the united states govern

>> well, the airport police work with -- we work well with federal officials and the fbi and customs and all the rest of the federal agencies here. it's a coordinated effort. with something like an incident that just happened, many times or police are the first ones that arrive the on the scene, especially a plane and board it. we try to coordinate with the federal officials and work together very, very well. >> larry: what are you saying, robert, to passengers arriving at the airport? >> well, at this point there might be a little bit of a delay in terms of there's going to be obviously especially international flights you have customs inspections and they make sure that the inspections are going to happen and might be a little bit delayed. people are willing to go through that, and i think that we don't really hear a lot of complaining or anything like that. the old adage an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. people are willing to go through the delays and are willing to let that happen right now. >> larry: are they willing at lax, too? are they acting well in view of th

harry humphreys, the preliminary fbi analysis found the device contained petn. what is that? >> petn is a german explosive developed around the first world war. it doesn't detonate. it burns very rapidly. it is used as a basic explosive for detonating cord. it is also used as a booster in many high-level military explosives. >> larry: if it had gone off inside that plane successfully what would have happened. >> i understand there was 80 grams. if the detonator, okay, in fact, was close enough -- >> larry: the button? >> the device that detonates the petn would have penetrated the skin and because he was sitting over one of the fuel tanks in the aircraft the fuel in the aircraft would have accelerated. >> larry: kill the whole plane? >> absolutely. >> larry: why do you think he was doing it on the ground not in the air. >> he wasn't doing it on the ground, he was approaching. >> larry: why not 35,000 feet? >> there are several schools of thought. he was fighting with himself mentally or he wanted to be close enough to the airport or a landing area where we would have seen cle

the fbi was very good to be able to decipher a code i devised for my own personal mail, and i sent 16 messages. they finally caught me, but i let two years go by and hurt me pretty bad, but i let two years go by. and then when i thought maybe they'd forgotten about the thing i did. so the president nixon said that we were, we were going to hit their transportation and communications centers, knock the hell out of 'em. and they were going to move -- did move -- half of our prisoners up there to the place where he was most centrally going to bomb. and i decided i'd take the risk. i said, half moved to dung hai, and they got it. so they didn't send the bombers there. so the communications were really important. not only for morale and for the chain of command because the senior managed to take over and decide what we couldn't do like a hunger strike or don't write anything, that kind of stuff, went on during the war. >> and you had a rule in your book you talk about it, there was one man who was, you know, just in terrible shape, and you had the distinction between amnesty and parole. wi

was taking fght lessons and appeared to reprent some kind of threat to the united stat anthe local fbi agent tried his besto get his superiors in washington to authize a foreigintelligence search warrant of moussauoi's poessions, could not get national f to cooperate. nobody told the cia and we wl never know whether the information at could of been obtained for moussauoi bore september 11th could of prevented the attack. so it's happened again. >> jeffrey: san, let's go to at issue. there was inte intelgence on ths yog man. wasn't shared or decisions were made t to follow-up. >> i thinke need to try to unrstand the nuts and bolts, reverse en near at happened. >> the first question i wod ask apart om the questions of the actualnterview is when the group t to discuss this in the embassy. what information, what additionalnformation were they ab to obtain by going back to their agencies to learn to, brinto bear on that discussion. yes, if there was infoation that was not shareat that time, that is troubling. we would want look at why. whether when the reque went back, assuminghere was a re

we got an e-mail from fbi, bernard madoff arrested, $50 billion scam. i was thinking, i don't know that's got to be a typo. that's huge. i soon found out. >> what kind of resources did you turn over? >> we had the entire investigative unit launch into action. much of it for broadcast. there were so many great details and facts that would not get into the world news or nightline. so we ended up doing this book. it is the first book that i've written. >> it is your first book. i'm a rookie. i enjoyed it. it's usually a minute and a half. a good day minute 45. here i had as much as i wanted. >> how did you fit writing the book into your workday? >> 4:30 in the morning was a good time to write. they gave me a few days off over the july 4th. right after the sentencing, i really swung into action. i was in good shape to get it out this quickly. >> did you have a chance to talk to any of them, or anybody close? >> i got to be close with his secretary for 25 years. eleanor, she got a stack of document. she felt so is bestrayed and angry. she felt badly for the

members of congress know where to look to understand the legal framework for what the fbi does. ina is a new institution. it has opry with little specific legal guidance governing activities that have a potential impact on america's. ms. mika, where should this guidance comes from qwest is there a role for the department of justice and had joint invited in unresolved constitutional or statutory question or other gaps in the legal guidance currently available to ina and have you identified those guys how to go about resolving and? >> i have not yet identified any gaps, but if i'm confirmed, and i do, i intend to rely heavily on the department, office of civil rights and civil liberties in the privacy office. ina is in the process of hiring its own dedicated privacy officer. i would first look in house for guidance on how to deal with appropriate information, or programs. and then i would expect that we would deal with the department of justice, if it required any changes to the guidelines that we can't operate under, which we did negotiate and consult with them on. >> i have long

official pointed out to me, there are times when we've wanted to revoke a passport or visa, and the fbi says, no, don't, we want to follow this guy. they did not revoke the visa. the one glitch that appears to have occurred is that on the original alert sent to washington, it was not mentioned that he even had a visa. now, presumably that became part of his profile in this database, but not in the original alert. >> all right. margaret warner, thanks a lot. >> we'll have more >> ifill: we'll have more on the failed bomb plot later in the program. but first, for the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan in our newsroom. hari. >> sreenivasan: the death toll from a deadly suicide bombing in pakistan, grew to 43 today. thousands gathered in central karachi for funerals from yesterday's attack. it struck a shiite procession marking the holy day of ashoura. authorities appealed for calm today after shiites rioted in the wake of the bombing. in afghanistan there was word an afghan soldier shot and killed a us soldier, at a base in the west. afghan authorities said a member of the afgh

who is expert in fraud, the fbi or the economist at the fed? pretty clearly, the fbi, and they have chosen to put in place someone who has been wrong on every step of the way in regulation, and explicitly follows alan greenspan's's a "there is no fraud, there is no reason to regulate." >> i will also be brief. i am a co-director of the campaign for america's future, a center of progressive ideas focused on kitchen table issues. where one of 17 groups ranging across the political spectrum that have issued a letter to the senate judicial committee urging it not to vote bernanke's nomination at to the floor of the senate without first investigating but his record and his current views. demanding an investigation of the federal reserve and a probe of bernanke's dues strike us, after the worst financial calamity says the great depression, a simple common sense. i will not repeat the bill of particulars that senator sanders and professor black issued, but suffice it to say that in every specific area that were critical to the crisis, he got it wrong

i was talking with one of my fbi friends -- yes, i have fbi friends. [laughter] i have been learning the culture. i said to my friend, joe, you cannot even handle your black fbi agents. what are you going to do with muslim americans? and what are you quick to do with somebody from baghdad? you can even handle our minorities. you are still getting the ability to read us. so we have agencies that are supposed to prevent something they cannot see from a people and from a cold -- and from a cult and a subculture that has twisted the their religion. they use ham handed proxy's. there is good profiling and bad profiling durin. my friend says, connie, we have to stop it. you cannot. you cannot do it without the people who know this part of the world, this part of humanity. this is what you have your burden. do not worry. we have had our burden. we have carried it for 400 years. we have to help you in the job because all you can do it. the very people we need, we are driving away. that is the problem appeared the people that we can speak the language are the p

. >> lehrer: how did the fbi get on to him. >> it's not completely clearut it seemed theytarted tracking him aftemumbai. don't forget the are americans killed in the mbai attacks. >> lehrer: the fbi participated in the investigations. >> and was very key in deteining some of the myriad international links. ere were connections to ital connection to the states so it seems that it was que a bit of physical evidence, intercepts and tngs like that that focus on him. they clear track him particular during these trips to denmark and his communicationsack to his handlers in pakistan. >> lehrer: ise an american cizen? >> is indeed. >> lehrer: is he eligible f the death penay if this thing goes that far, is that as ries a crim he's. is he is chaed with killing th170 people in mumbai so he coulface the death penalty. >> lehrer: what the next step. >> the next st is to see how this case goesorward. there are ports and it's even clear from t documents he's talking about this thathere's some cooperation gng on. the next step wod be to see if thisoes to trial and at what level d what his, how far his

their families contacted the fbi before their arrests, after finding a farewell video made on behalf of the five. the men reportedly met here in northern virginia when they were members of a youth group sponsored by their mosque. >> our group discussions never talked about politics, never talked about ongoing conflicts, never talked about fighting against anyone indirectly or directly. on the contrary we always promoted compassionate toward others and being good stewards of humanity. >> sreenivasan: officials in both the u.s. and pakistan have said they expect the men would eventually be deported back to the u.s. but charging them in pakistan would likely delay that process. as the year comes to a close, u.s. military deaths soared in afghanistan, where the war is escalating. but fewer troops died in iraq, where the operation is winding down. in afghanistan, 318 american troops were killed in 2009. that's more than double the number who died in 2008. in iraq, 150 americans lost their lives this year. that toll is nearly half what it was in 2008, when 314 u.s. troops died. 2009 ended

don't forget there are americans killed in the mumbai attacks. >> lehrer: the fbi participated in the investigations. >> and was very key in determining some of the myriad international links. there were connections to italy, connection to the states. so it seems that it was quite a bit of physical evidence, intercepts and things like that that focused on him. they clearly track him particularly during these trips to denmark and his communications back to his handlers in pakistan. >> lehrer: is he an american citizen? >> is he indeed. >> lehrer: is he eligible for the death penalty if this thing goes that far, is that as series a crime. >> he's. is he is charged with killing the 170 people in mumbai so he could face the death penalty. >> lehrer: what's the next step. >> the next step is to see how this case goes forward. there are reports and it's even clear from the documents he's talking about this that there's some cooperation going on. the next step would be to see if this goes to trial and at what level and what his, how far his cooperation goes. but i would say i would assume he

this will be hopefully the afghan fbi. we have ten fbi agents on the ground right now, dea agents on the ground, military partners with us, the british working with this element. i could go on. we have a lot of different initiatives that are out there. they aren't seen right now. they're not visible. we tend to spend all of our time talking about one individual or one particular case. but at the end of the day, it is the spade work going on out there steadily, training of civil servants, training of law enforcement agencies, things as simple as trying to improve procedures. minister of finance recently told secretary clinton at dinner, very proudly, that he had overseen an effort in kabul to reduce the steps required to get a license for a car from 54 steps in one month to three steps in a couple of hours. that's not a headline story in "the new york times" but that probably has more to give us bigger results in a fight against corruption than one middle level criminal put behind bars. so just steady work. >> general petra

because it appears to be organized and widespread, the fbi should look into whether this is a criminal enterprise. the president's close ties with acorn, dating back over 15 years, are of additional concern. president obama previously served as acorn's lawyer, participated in acorn training programs in chicago, and sat on the boards of two organizations that provided funding to acorn's chicago chapter. just last year, his campaign misrepresented that it had paid more than 800,000 to an offshoot of acorn. the obama campaign initially said that they used this for polling. there really use the money for the same types of voter registration project that have mired acorn in criminal investigations in at least 12 states. the president's ties to acorn take any conclusion that the justice department may reach with regard to whether or not to investigate and prosecute acorn employees. that is why i requested date the attorney journal -- i have requested that the attorney general appoint a special prosecutor. congress also has an obligation to investigate the apostle -- the possibly illegal cond

the fbi is leading the investigation now and obviously checking into this person's background and capabilities. the federal bulletin says this nigerian national is in custody and has also been taken to a hospital to be treated for burns sustained from this explosion. an administration official tells cnn it's too early to know if this person was part of some broader conspiracy. and we should say at this early point, no charges have been filed, clearly early in this investigation. passengers leaving the plane speaking to reporters at the airport say the fire from the explosion was at least large enough to need a fire extinguisher to put out. it's very interesting getting these firsthand accounts as these passengers are being allowed to leave the security area of the airport. >> and we're going to hear from some of those to get a sense of what exactly happened on the plane. one of the issues you're trying to get to the bottom of and we are with peter bergen and others is how serious was this? what were the capabilities that this person had? were they working alongside a larger organization or wer

and the secretary of homeland security, attorney general of the united states, and the head of the fbi. i mean it's like you almost had the entire law enforcement apparatus of the united states. music, publishing, games, industries. so it was essentially the copyright industries. it was a meeting of the vice president office requested to get more information about an industry that employed overall nearly $6 million people in this country. that is the only group of industries that have a positive balance of payment surplus with every single country in the world. and it was his goal to get more information about the nature of the copyright issues, especially the intellectual property and theft. he was very expolice sit, this is not prior prior -- piracy, this is theft. what can the government do about it? the white house has lots of meetings. i'm sure they will meet with people who have different perspectives. i thought it was fair. as you know i spent many years in the government, including in cabinet post. we held meetings like this all the time. we were always careful to have a combin

yet the department of justice in the fbi have been almost entirely silent and seemingly negligent in carrying out their duty to investigate and prosecute violations of federal law. as has the irs. credit goes to officials in states like louisiana and nevada for opening investigations, but acorn is a sprawling, multilayer organization with offices all over the country. it operates in a multitude of different areas from elections to housing to even operating radio and tv stations. i'm sorry, is my time up? , could you summarize? >> the bottom line is that only the fbi and the justice department have the power to perform a nationwide investigation. and there is more than enough evidence for the undercover videos and all of these other reports to provide a basis for a federal investigation. the government has launched a major investigations of businesses and government contractors on much less evidence. what needs to happen is they need to act immediately -- the dumping of california of 20,000 documents in the trash by the san diego office only days after the secretary of state -- the at

history based on the fbi. we have also gone beyond that in 2000 and doing something extra this decade with regard to safety of the american public and taking fingerprints on all applicants and submitting those even though that adds very new discoveries of criminal histories, we're doing it because of the concern's. we're also concerned about the safety of our e enumerators. we have a variety of procedures when they go to various for the crime rates are high to protect them and go in pairs, as courts and help out in various ways to make sure they are saved. we're very concerned about that and we are actively and acting aggressively to make sure both enumerators are safe and the american public is eighth. on the criminal history check, if there are any felony convictions for crimes such as murder, sex offense comment aggravated assault, weapons charges grand theft child molestation and the conviction like that you are ineligible to work as an and narrator. if there are convictions of less serious crimes, then yo

matthew levitt, former fbi counterintelligence analyst. now with the washington institute for near east policy. recent cases of homegrown terrorism. first, a news update from c-span radio. >> as the president meets with financial executives this morning, citigroup says it is repaying $20 billion of the money it received last year from the government. citigroup originally received a total of $45 billion. the government owns the balance, which it plans to sell. president obama is the focus of an internet statement today from al qaeda's that the leader al- zawahiri. accused the president of cheating the arab world by peace talks. he urges a muslims and palestinians to wage holy war and praised muslim militants fighting in pakistan. three days of meetings with north korean officials wrapped up and stephen was war, special envoy to north korea, says he is encouraged. in moscow to of a russian officials he remarked in a briefing earlier that north korean officials acknowledge the appearance of the six-party talks and a joint statement of 2005. i

it is like to be there fbi. our fbi has sent it to the mentors to work with them. the initial plan is that the mentor would be there for several months and rotate out. you cannot build trust and a couple of months. it has to be a long-term endeavor. he has 10 agents in afghanistan where making a lot of progress. >> general, mcchrystal, you may want to comment. even with the most dedicated and talented government in kabul, the ability to reach out into the provinces is limited. it is limited by the constitution. the governors are appointed by president karzai. limit -- limited by the ability to raise it locally. you will have to fill in the gap. it seems to be similar to the issue in iraq where military units and the civilian counterparts were using funds to jumpstart some of the activity. is that your plan, essentially? let it is. we receive every cachance we can to use existing district government. we will also help for ever we can. in some cases, security alone makes it difficult. we are going to have to partner with them. it will be unique in every place. >> i w

the afghan american arrested by the fbi in the colorado demonstrated the direct connection. what happened in fort hood it demonstrated the indirect connection of the narrative and ideology of the global islamic jihad. today the only sustained, significant pressure on the core of qaeda comes from between 30,000-60,000 feet in the air from the grounds of predators and reapers. -- from the drones. the have proven highly successful against a limited range of targets in a limited geography. and have to some extent, and it is hard to know if you are not a member of al qaeda, disrupted. they are a tactic and not a strategy. it is like attacking one bee at a time. it is ironic. eight years after torah borrow, osama bin lawton is the voice we hear -- eight years after tora bora, bin laden is the voice we hear. he could be in the room next door as far as we know. last week, the bbc put out a report poorly sourced that he was in afghanistan in february. what was notable about the report was not how good it was but that how rare we even get that reports about where he is. the second thi

the remains of the device are being sent to an fbi expos of ladd in quantico for analysis. -- explosive lab in quantico for analysis. back to the phones -- orlando, fla., an airline for democrats. -- on our line for democrats. should we real bed -- reevaluate our watch list? caller: my problem is that i cannot understand how he got anything that was explosive, incendiary or whatever on the plane. i travel a lot. last month by came from jamaica and they confiscated a repellent. host: do you think they took that as a result of some kind of profiling? caller: there is a list of stuff you cannot take on airplanes. repellent? host: did they tell you what they're concerned about? caller:no, it was on a list. jamaica has mosquitos and you need repellent. host: i understand we will move on. turn down your television or radio, ok? caller: i have been on the waiting list for a while. i was going to talk about the man that called before may. e. he was saying about the guy that was on the plane was trying to blowball plane up. -- blow the whole airplane up. all this stuff about race, i am white and

the national archives the fbi and cia need no explanation but what i discovered early on was how many universities around the united states have material on madame chang. it took awhile before realize there were dozens of water called china hands, diplomats and journalists who for various reasons, specialized in china and all left their papers to their home universities. my favorite was a diplomat from cornell parkway fascinating guy who worked at least part time for the intelligence service and he left a couple of pictures along with his extensive no. in one of them madam was standing next to a doorway carefully posed in the old hollywood style with then he bent. the diplomat put a note on the photo for his editor do not crop that a coal. -- angola she was in fact, famous for her legs which were lovely. in "the last empress" i cannot resist telling the story of the cairo conference of which she was the only woman president -- present with roosevelt and her husband chang kai-shek natalee did to take over the conversations but knowing how ltd. and an articulate u.s. madam and who wore

to the brave men and women of the nypd, the court officers, the federal marshals, the fbi agents, all those who will be charged with public safety here and abroad, they will have to continue to risk their lives. those on the front lines of our defense, we honor their service to america and to our great city of new york, because they are the ones who will help to keep us safe and sound. let me tell you about this criminal justice system. many of you know that this -- that we saw trials against john gotti jr, who tried to take my life on two occasions. how are we going to find a jury who can feel safe and secure with khalid sheik mohammed when the jurists in the mafia trial were afraid? as i sat there during the deliberations, i heard a lawyer said, what a career break it would be to represent khalid shaikh mahomet and the jihadist s? what an opportunity to report each and every day what goes on in that courtroom, said a reporter. the u.s. attorney said but what a great opportunity to prosecute khalid the shmuck. this is not about career opportunities. this is about freedom, justice, th

system, and we check for criminal histories based on the fbi. we also have gone beyond that. we did that in 2000, we're doing something extra this decade with regard to safety of the american public, and that is we're taking fingerprints on all applicants and submitting those even though that adds very few new discoveries of criminal histories, we're doing it because of the concerns. we're also concerned about the safety of our enumerators, and we have a variety of procedures when our enumerators go to areas where the crime rates are high to protect them, to go in pairs, to have escorts, to help out in various ways to make sure they're safe on their job. we're very concerned about that, and we're actively, aggressively -- we're acting aggressively to make sure that both our enumerators are safe and the american public is safe. on criminal history check, if there are any felony convictions for crimes such as murder, sex offenses, robbery, voter fraud, aggravated assault, weapons charges, grand theft, child molestation, any of, any conviction like