south africa together. more than anything else. the spirit is different all together. this we never experienced before. >> woodruff: plus, ray suarez debriefs fred about what the matches mean for south africa's economy and its sense of pride. >> lehrer: jeffrey brown talks with journalist sebastian junger about his new book, the story of a platoon of u.s. soldiers in afghanistan. >> one guy said to me, you know, some guys hate each other in this platoon but we'd all die for each other. the security of that relationship with other human beings is so tremendous that the guys will willing to risk their lives in order to get it. >> lehrer: that's all ahead on tonight's tphaur. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: this is the engine that connects zero emission technologies to breathing a little easier, while taking 4.6 million truckloads off the road every year. bnsf, the engine that connects us. and the william and flora hewlett foundation, working to solve social and environmental problems

course south africa because they are hosting. no nation has ever not made it out of the initial other group to go to the next round so will south africa be able to do that, and with the tie today maybe that's a good boost for them. asia has never there are three countries from asia in this tournament, ray. and again i just don't see that they have the, right now, the juice, you know, to go further. but this is a global game and the hope would be that especially fueled by nationalism which david eluded to, this is what that is about. and that is why the united states will i think care very much because it's a tiddley winks or whatever is, if the u.s. playing against somebody especially tomorrow with england, my goodness, what a story line that is. but i think that, yeah, some day the u.s. will make it to the finals. the world cup. i don't know if we will be allowed to see it. >> suarez: but a loss to england tomorrow wouldn't mean that they can't advance the way this system works, right? >> exactly. they play each team in the grou

south africa scored the first goal of the cup to the delight of millions. but the match ended in a tie when mexico scored late. ( cheers and applause ) played once every four years, the tournament began in 1930. teams are divided into eight initial groups; two advance from each group to face a 16-team knockout contest. hundreds of millions will watch these matches on tv. the frenzy over soccer around the world, however, has never been matched in the u.s. but this time around, americans have bought more tickets than residents of any other country, except south africa. >> they call it "the beautiful game," and i think if you just sit down and pay attention to it, you really understand the skill level and appreciate that, and it really is a beautiful game. ( cheers and applause ) >> suarez: clarence wardell came to this bar in washington early today to watch the games. he has his own theories about why soccer has never rivaled more popular sports in the u.s. >> i think the reason that americans do not like soccer as a whole is we don't grow up with hometown te

we talk to steve goff, who is covering the games for the "washington post" in south africa. paul solman answers your questions on business and economic news on his "making sense" page. plus, we talk to the director of "living in emergency," a documentary which follows doctors without borders missions into some of the world's most challenging environments. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. gwen. >> ifill: and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm gwen ifill. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. we'll see you online and again here tomorrow evening. thank you and good night. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by

of the nuclear energy corporation of south africa. he runs pelindaba. >> adam: i think that it was a piece of random criminality, frankly, having looked at it. >> pelley: "random criminality." what do you mean by that? >> adam: well, i don't think that there was any concerted attack of a nuclear nature. you had one technically sophisticated individual with some friends. >> pelley: and they were after what? >> adam: i don't know. >> pelley: what does the south african government have to say? we asked ambassador abdul minty, one of south africa's top officials on nuclear policy. >> abdul minty: so far, the evidence we have is that it was an attempt at burglary. people went to the one facility and tried to take, for example, a... a notebook computer, which they left behind, subsequently. >> pelley: you're not saying that the intrusion at pelindaba was designed to take a laptop computer. >> minty: no, no. i'm saying it was probably a burglary attempt, from what evidence we have. >> pelley: mr. ambassador, the point is, what's valuable at

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this goes to the interesting history of sports in south africa. viewers of a recent movie will know that rugby was the support of white africa, and soccer was the sport of black africa. there is that subtext. we should not place too much emphasis on the ability of the event to heal wounds in the society. as the last caller noted, this is just a game. even though it has symbolic importance, the issues on the table are just too ig to disappear in the course of one great month-long festival of soccer. host: what are the issues that are important? guest: there are all sorts of lingering issues from apartheid. especially, now, you have resentment in both directions. you might call it black nationalism rising. you have the same response in the white community, where there is still a lot of racial resentment that is very much unresolved. is not to mention the economic issues. the south african invested millions of dollars in building stadiums. the government is run by a black middle class and upper class that has tremendous economical and political power

and i want you to know that i recently took down to south africa, madam speaker, a project named after a gentleman who was the face of hollywood, because i was told several years ago that they were getting ready to close the rosa parks library and information in cape town, south africa, and that is the information septre attached to our embassy, the u.s. embassy. they were going to close it down because, they said, the cold war was over. so i took 100 of america's best and loved films that they love all offer the world, that shows our principles, our values, our beliefs, and our humanity because everyone is influenced by our movies. and i also want to say, madam speaker, that as our image has been tarnished, i felt that our movies really who portray them, the classic movies and the people who starred in those movies who have a star in the walk of fame could be recognized in another country and help improve our image. so i would hope that all members , madam speaker, recognizing that they represent the people of america and the members here will vote to support an industry that really s

the other two are with and go luck and south africa. -- angola and south africa. last year, secretary clinton made an 11-nation trip across the continent. this is testament to the importance this administration places on africa, and our commitment to meet and work with our african partners to address the immense challenges facing the continent today. through our engagement and programs, the administration is seeking to advance five policy priorities on the continent. first, we're working with african governments and the international community and with civil society to strengthen democratic institutions and to protect the democratic gains made in recent years in many african countries. since the 1990's, we have witnessed an impressive wave of democratization, during which dozens of african countries have moved from dictatorship to democracy in one of the most impressive in advance of the last century. recent democraaic elections including those in botswana, ghana, and south africa serve to remind us that africans believe in democracy as well. the recent elections

in may of 2004, south africa was awarded the coveted world cup tournament. which is going on there today. recognizing the nexus between major sporting events and crime, major sporting events and crime, particularll prostitution, the

and when she pulled into south africa, she said, is zach coming? it's brought them very much closer together. >> larry: did she say to you one day, dad, i want to do what zach did? i want to sail around the world alone? >> it was always abigail's idea, she's wanted to do this from the age of 13 years old. at 13, i evaluated the situation. it took about 1 second and i said, you're too young at this age, and let's see where it leads. she started soloing in 30 foot crafts at a young age. and over the years, i took her through some rougher and rougher circumstances and my goal was to dissuade her that the ocean is not really a friendly place. it doesn't care who you are, what you are, how old you are? when i took her through these trials, she just came through with flying colors. and when she was on a yacht for over 24 hours with no sleep and little food, i'd say -- are you ready to sail around the world now? to which she replied at 14 years old. >> yes. >> she's a minor, you could have prevented it? >> i could have. >> larry: you tried to dissuade her

and when she pulled into south africa, she said "is zach coming?" it brought them very much closer together. >> larry: did she say to you one day, "dad, i want to do what zach did. i want to sail around the world alone." >> actually it was always abgail's idea. she wanted to do this from age 13 years old. of course at 13, evaluated the situation, it took one second. i said, you are too young at this ainge. let's see where it leads. she started soloing in 35-foot crafts at that age, a young age. and over the years, i took her through some rougher and rougher, circumstances. and i, my goal was to dissuade her that the ocean is not really a friendly place. it doesn't care who you are or what you are or how old you are. when i took her through these trials, she just -- came through with flying colors. and when she was wet through and being on a yacht for over 24 hours with no sleep, and little food, and -- i would say, so are you ready to sail around the world now? to which she replied at 14 years old. show me my boat. >> larry: she is a minor at 16. co

so there's been a lot of discussion about whether south africa is really the most africa is really the most appropriate country, south africans themselves have made an effort in their presence to represent more than themselves, to represent the continent themselves. but that's not the same as having other african countries there. if in seoul, korea in november, the next summit, the koreans will propose to put development within the g 20 in a different way than in the g-8. you notice yesterday there was a lot of foe focus on foreign aid. aid. most, since there are 10 emerging markets in the g-20, they have a different take on this that development is an internal dynamic, that it is more than aid. it is trade. so there's a different way that g-20 could frame this. and if the g-20 does take on this development issue, i think you can expect that they will have to have more of the lower income developing countries at the table and you might see a seat or two going to other african either nations or regional groupings. host: our next call, joseph on our line for republicans out of virginia.

his name is mike rutzen, and in south africa, where he lives, he's known simply as "the sharkman." what he's discovered about these predators will surprise you. far from being mindless killing machines, rutzen believes great whites are smart, curious, and not out to kill humans. and as anderson cooper reported last march, he's willing to risk his life to prove it. >> cooper: mike rutzen is looking for a great white shark he can swim with-- that's right, swim with. before he gets in the water, he needs to find a great white that is both calm and curious, a shark he refers to as a "player." >> mike rutzen: that's a player. >> cooper: what's a player? >> rutzen: well, a player is basically the shark that's so relaxed, has a nice personality, woke up on the right side of the reef, and it's... >> cooper: "on the right side of the reef." >> rutzen: yeah. ( laughs ) and the animal's willing to interact with us, it's so curious. >> cooper: rutzen says great whites have personalities. they may be the top predator in the sea, but he says they are not the man-eating killers of our nightmares.

this will be discussed on july 7 at the education summit in south africa, which is tied in with the world cup. has he personally spoken to president zuma and other african leaders about their pledges, and will he confirm that a review of the department for international development's funding will not compromise their pledge? >> first, i welcome the honorable member following her election. i think that i am right in saying that she is the youngest member of the house of commons. she is quite right to talk about the millennium development goals and aid spending. it is good that it is common cause across the house of commons that, in spite of the difficult decisions that we will have to take, we should meet the target of 0.7% of gross national income. we are committed to doing that, which means that we can continue to support the poorest people in the poorest countries. we will be addressing such issues this weekend at the g-8 in canada. >> graham evans. >> yesterday, there was support on both sides of the house for raising the income tax threshold by 1,000 pounds. does the prime minister ag

[applause] and we have the;djv charged affr from the embassy of south africa. [applause] i hope i have hit everybody i am supposed to. this is a wonderful evening. i want to thank joe gilde nhorn about his gracious remarks. i planned to be here four or five years and have stayed here 11 or 12. one of the principal reasons i have this because i have had the honor to work with joe. i will tell=a you palle loyal je is. he is so low that the wilson center that he is here tonight when his granddaughter is graduate from high school. that is really something we appreciate your leadership. [applause] tonight, we welcomed the chairman of the federal reserve, ben bernanke, to the center. he is an academic thinker and a policy maker in the tradition of woodrow wilson. he is a world-class scholar and like wilson, a princeton professor. dr. bernanke has become one of the country's most important and most respected policy makers. he happens to be greatly indebted to woodrow wilson. one of owen wilson's major legislative achievements was the enactment of the federal reserve a

we need to catch up to the fact that if particularly among the markets in eastern europe, in south africa and many other african nations, in latin america, these kinds of democracy rforms movements are actually financed and initiated from inside the government. he they are very much till pushefrom outside the government. and a healthy democracy you want both. because we concluded to be examples, probably particularly in latin america where by the factthey're coming out of government, by definition means whole subcultures in the country still feel excluded. but the point is, we think, for organizations that are here today joining with brookings to say its time for a broad-based democracy reform initiative, which builds theoalition of the very sparse that work inside the beltway, and need to work inside the beltway, and rededicate itself to discovering the national narrative that actually matches the instinct that already exists amongst millions ofamericans, that we n do better than we are doing today. 90. [applause] >> i want to thank carolyn for the inspiring talk. i also want to note tha

africa, brazil, india. we will participate in public awareness campaigns. it is true that we will absolutely not prosecute our way out of this problem. i think education, any effective enforcement effort, has to be done side-by-side with public awareness campaigns, like the ones that icc has done, to get the message out there. we have had defendants as part of plea agreements go to a i schools to talk about the consequences of these problems -- a two high schools to talk about the consequences of these problems, consequences of engaging in these. that has been fairly successful. we are also looking for opportunities to engaging in public awareness through the doj public task force. those are some of the things we are working on, some of the things we are doing. i think it is a growing problem. i hope that these efforts will have growing effectiveness as well. thank you very much but i appreciate the opportunity to be here. -- thank you very much. i appreciate the opportunity to be here. [applause] >> got me

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africa and that south africa gave up its atomic weapons program. the threat, my friends, in iran is crystal clear. and its regime closes in on a nuclear weapon. so a crystal clear response by us is urgent. while i support this bill, much of this legislation unfortunately is a muddle. good sanctions, good sanctions in this bill are weakened by delays and by the possibility of waiver after waiver. for this, the obama administration gets the main blame. from the beginning it has insisted on excessive leeway to implement new sanctions. it doesn't want to be forced into dramatic actton. so, yes, we do provide the tools with this bill, they're in there. but there's little guarantee that those tools will be used. for example, the house bill aimed to target iran's energy sector. yet with this conference report, a foreign oil company could avoid even the investigation required to sanction it for at least one year. the many companies from china and elsewhere rapidly building iran's energy facilities today will be surely exempted from these sanctions. this re

africa. you all would not discuss issues of substance when it comes to israel. why is that? it has over 200 nuclear weapons and we are concerned about iran with zero nuclear weapons. anytime anything comes up about israel you all shutdown the conversation -- c-span, all of the network news, none of you would discuss anything negative about israel. why is that, sir? host: the views of jimmy from south carolina. more about helen thomas. she agreed to about out of the commencement speech at walt whitman, high-school, in bethesda, maryland. president obama today will be speaking at a high school in kalamazoo, michigan. take a look at the front page of "the new york times" on the oil spill. the headline in many papers -- host: damage will continue after the oil well is capped. like a raging undersea beast, the well has stymied bp officials and the government. one technician was amazed at the power of big oil gushing from the deaths. jefferson, n.y., and our board -- democrat line. , on the democra

south africa has given vice- president biden a warm welcome. we look forward to a competitive tournament. we are saddened to learn of the death of nelson mandela picked granddaughter, killed earlier today. -- of nelson mandela's granddaughter, killed earlier today. we extend our condolences to him and his family. >> what about basketball? >> we will cover that down the road. >> there was a wikleaks investigation of the release of documents. are you doing a damage assessment? >> we are doing a damage assessment. i think also today diplomatic security is assisting in forensic analysis of the hard drives to just determine -- to verify the fact a leak took place and also to see if we can identify where we are potentially compromised. >> which hard drives? more than one? are they in baghdad? >> they have been brought here. >> there is more than one? >> i want to say it is more than one. >> i have a question. on monday -- it was a little hard to tell from your response just how grave a concern there is about the release of disinformation. is this ext

africa and that south africa gave up its atomic weapons program. the threat, my friends, in iran is crystal clear. and its regime closes in on a nuclear weapon. so a crystal clear response by us is urgent. while i support this bill, much of this legislation unfortunately is a muddle. good sanctions, good sanctions in this bill are weakened by delays and by the possibility of waiver after waiver. for this, the obama administration gets the main blame. from the beginning it has insisted on excessive leeway to implement new sanctions. it doesn't want to be forced into dramatic actton. so, yes, we do provide the tools with this bill, they're in there. but there's little guarantee that those tools will be used. for example, the house bill aimed to target iran's energy sector. yet with this conference report, a foreign oil company could avoid even the investigation required to sanction it for at least one year. the many companies from china and elsewhere rapidly building iran's energy facilities today will be surely exempted from these sanctions. this re

[applause] and we have the charges d- affaires from south africa. [applause] i hope i have hit everybody i am supposed to. this is a wonderful evening. i want to thank joe gildenhard for my tenures at the center. i came to the wilson center planning to be here about four or five years and i have stayed 11 or 12. one of the principal reasons i have stayed is because i have had the honor to work with joe. i will tell you how loyal joe is. he is so loyal that he is here tonight when his grandson or grand daughter is graduating from high school. by golly, that is really something. we appreciate your leadership, joe. [applause] tonight, we welcome the chairman of the federal reserve, ben bernanke, to the center. he is an addict -- academic thinkers and policy maker in the tradition of woodrow wilson. he is a world-class scholar and like wilson, a princeton professor. dr. bernanke has become one of the country's most important and most respected policy makers. he happens to be greatly indebted to woodrow wilson. one of wells in's major legislative achieve

., whatever [laughter] all over south africa. now i have said "ass" at the npc. great. -- he was talking about the early 1950's, when the british parliament and the burning of -- banned the burning of coal in open fireplaces. he said they thought their way of life would collapse, yet within three years, no one remembered that they used to burn coal in open fireplaces. it was a regulatory decision by a responsible governing body that set the standard. also with regard to this question, and i do want to pitch some of the questions to john, because it is his area of expertise. the definition of leadership -- taking responsibility to enable others to achieve purpose in the face of uncertainty. what is certain is that blowing up mountains is not appropriate. that must stop. some of the other technologies, i frankly think or little less -- are a little less uncertain then this questioner -- than this questioner put forward. has anyone read van jones' amazing book? there are solutions out there. john? >> [inaudible] [ashley humming] >> i think right now, with regard to

africa. you all would not discuss issues of substance when it comes to israel. why is that? it has over 200 nuclear weapons and we are concerned about iran with zero nuclear weapons. anytime anything comes up about israel you all shutdown the conversation -- c-span, all of the network news, none of you would discuss anything negative about israel. why is that, sir? host: the views of jimmy from south carolina. more about helen thomas. she agreed to about out of the commencement speech at walt whitman, high-school, in bethesda, maryland. president obama today will be speaking at a high school in kalamazoo, michigan. take a look at the front page of "the new york times" on the oil spill. the headline in many papers -- coast guard seized the cleanup lasting into the fall. damage will continue after the well is capped, according to admiral thad allen. a bit from the story -- jefferson, new york, veronica, on the democrats' line. caller: thank you for taking my call. all right, she might have spok

i would counter that by asking you, would you call apartheid south africa a democracy? if everybody does not have the same rights and privileges? if it -- is a democracy that some people cannot drive down the same road? palestinians are not allowed down the same roads. when they go to catch a bus, israelis, they have little shelters. palestinians are not allowed to use those. they have to stand out in the rain and wait. their vehicles have to balance down dirt road off of the sides of a los superhighways that is a role created for their -- settlements, which are illegal. they are not supposed to be there. it is against international law to build a permanent settlements in occupied territory. host: another comment, and you can join the conversation on line at twitter.com/c-spanwj. this is the cover story of the latest edition of "the national journal." the president, who traveled to chicago over the weekend, is even do was washed out, as the president told people it may not be safe because of the lightning. the story in "the washington post" -- on a state -- day of small

africa or somewhere, that's one thing. but when you've got centrifuges spinning and the iaea already tells us iran has probably enough enriched uranium for two nuclear weapons and the centrifuges are still spinning and we're still trying to talk to other nations in the world about getting onboard with our sanctions and israel is more at risk every day and not only have we not gotten other nations to get onboard with sanctions, russia has cut a deal, they're going to provide them their best antiaircraft weaponry, it's coming to iran. and the days are growing and building and we're putting all the wrong pressure on our dear ally. and some know that in this body that i've been pushing, all three terms i've been here, what i titled the u.n. voting accountability act, one of these days i'm going to get it to the floor for a vote. i got it as an amendment. we had other 100 votes on it, that was in 2005, i'm hoping to get it to the floor as a bill, at some point to bring about sanity to our foreign assistance policy. but it says

and i read an article in the wee hours this morning that south africa is getting the first snow in decades. so, anyway, but apparently the global warming movement realized this was a problem and i read another article sometime back around this time that indicated, you know what? we've been saying carbon dioxide trapped the warmth in, but it may be, since the planet maybe cooling, maybe it makes the sun's rays bounce off of the carbon dioxide so maybe co-2 is to blame for the cooling. so they realized that the planet's cooling and you want to blame co-2, you're going to have to change the name. because global warming doesn't work if the climate is actually getting cooler. so, they started calling it climate legislation rather than global warming legislation. so that's why the referred to this way and that's why senators like senator kerry down the hall are referring to this climate legislation. but anyway, going back to the article, it saas, quote, kerry never got to have his photo op with b.p. chief executive, tony hayward, and other regulation friendly corporate chief tans. within days re

africa found out this week with the snow down there. but, anyway, it turns out that on april 22, senator john kerry, democrat from massachusetts, was on the phone with allies in his push for climate legislation and told them he was rolling out the bill that very day with three oil companies, including british petroleum. they were supporting him on his climate change, global warming bill, and they were supporting the white house, and so, of course, they were reluctant to jump on the oil company that was being such a big help to them. but what we found is once they saw that the united states was angry and that this was going to be nothing but trouble, well, they were willing to throw their friends under the bus and put their boot on their throat and wanting to kick some rear ends. and we had a meeting today in our natural resources committee and we had the new acting director of minerals management service. we had the new acting inspector general of department of interior, and i was asking that, you know, since we had hearings a few years

africa, and new zealand. while there is usually background noise in these meetings, a hush falls when the national park service is at the microphone because everyone knows that the park service will speak knowledgeably and credibly about the conservation of these sites, and about how local communities can help with conservation and benefit from the economic dividends they can provide. for many years, the park service's, under both republican and democratic administrations, has given credibility to u.s. delegations at these meetings. there are likely many reasons for this international respect for the parks service and the united states. in large measure, it appears to be a return unsound investment made by the u.s. government in international programs such as the peace corps partnership in 1972, which grew into the largest volunteer conservation program in the world. the park service's international seven -- seminar at comparable success, and continues to bring long-term benefits of good will and no technical

you cannot approach japan in the same way that you approached south africa. you cannot approach sell africa in the same way your approach india. you cannot approach india in the same way that you approached china. we are individualized in our approach to the countries. we are going to reinforce the existing trade agreements that we have. agreements do not matter unless there are agreements that are binding. if for whatever reason our trading partners are not living up to their responsibilities, we will call them on that. we need to expand additional free trade agreement. we of three that we are working on, and we need to continue that and look for other opportunities for bilateral trade. we also have to encourage multilateral trade opportunities, which is one reason why the president is going to spend time on a trans- pacific partnership, in an effort to see if there is an opportunity for us to expand trade opportunities in that part of the world. we also have an approach to biotechnology. this is an important component of agriculture in america. we want to m

we consistently go back to south america. we are committed to working in south america for another two years. with africa, we are building capacity there on the i.p. crime side. they're very committed and we're very committed to working in africa. we have run quite a bit of operations in east africa. we had colleagues from east africa, over and talk about their experiences. we are able to evaluate what was effective. one of the biggest things that came -- out came -- and the issues -- on the was an absence of see. legislation for intervention. we do evaluate these operations. constantly keeping in through our private sector people who deserve our support. we have recognized that given the nature of our organization and the work that we do and our limitations of staff, we need to better at that. that's why i'm hoping this college ill be a mechanism for doing that. in terms of the operations, we have a very comprehensive evaluation process. also, apply those in other areas. the other side to it is in africa. until we started wo

i cannot believe there's a country in europe, in asia, in africa, in south america or on the north american continent that would not say that if you breach this blockade that we have in place for our own security, we will confront you and stop you. but that blockade exists for a reason. to keep weapons out of the hands of hamas, a terrorist organization dicated to the destruction of israel and to random attacks on israeli civilians. mr. wiener has been pointing out the map. probably most of us on this floor have be to the town. some of us have been in the gym that is an armed camp where is the only safe place for the children to play. some have been with me. the attack on israeli civilians has continued without abatement. i don't mean that it hasn't lessened from time to time, but never has there been a time when israelis felt that the violence was concluded, because hamas has made it clear that it will not conclude. hamas dedicated to the destruction of the israel and the random attacks on israeli civilians. the blockade was launched with the cooperation of israel's neighbor egypt when ham

are in africa. there are more practicing anglicans in the nation of nigeria alone than there are in great britain. that is a clear indication of which way the winds are blowing. once you change the subject away from the culture wars to other issues, things like the ethics of free market global capitalism, war and peace, race relations, the environment, the arms race, all of those issues that we are accustomed to thinking up as social justice are peace and justice concerns, you will find a need and potatoes consensus in catholicism in the global sow that by our western standards, as remarkably progressive or liberal. since april 2003, the date of the u.s.-led incursion into iraq, i have probably interviewed 300 catholic bishops in the global sow. i have never found one, not one who was not profoundly convinced that the u.s.-led invasion of iraq in 2003 felt our church's test for a just war. you may agree or disagree with that. i am just trying to describe the climate of opinion. the practical reality

america, brazil, maybe off of africa. and they will never come back. when they leave, we lose the jobs that are now held by americans that work on the rigs. we lose the jobs of all the people that work on the supply chips -- the supply ships and all of the steel manufacturing and everything associated with that industry. your point about mr. soros an illustrates the point that we have a lot at stake. we have american jobs, the american economy at stake, and if we act irrationally, if we enact an overly broad moratorium, not based on things like the weather -- not based on things like whether or not a given oil well is safe, there are long-term consequences for jobs and america and the economy as a whole. host: representative john shadegg, thank you for being here. when we come back, we'll talk with ed schultz, msnbc anchor and the author of this book called "killer politics." we will be back to talk to him, but first, a news update from c- span radio. , coming upon 9:15 here in pashington, d.c. stanley mcchrystal is in wa

there is using it all over africa. they have used it in south -- in central louisiana. >> once this is planted, it grows very rapidly. within three months, you could not pull out of the ground. the root system would be about 7 feet and three months. what happens is it maintains itself where it is very resilient. it stands up well against flooding come up against drought. it can go for long periods of time in water, without water. you can burn it. but it will grow back. it takes the nitrates and phosphates out of the soil and water. it takes the heavy metals out of the water. >> in this case, with our weapons being inundated with heavy crude, this would be ideal to not just plant on the sand berms we want to build but as we build back our wetlands, this would be the perfect plant species to put into the wetlands because of its ability to be able to take in those hydrocarbons to almost clean the area. >> we are not sure how much of the hydrocarbons that could clean at this point. that is an unknown. we know it can withst

there is using it all over africa. they have used it in south -- in central louisiana. >> once this is planted, it grows very rapidly. within three months, you could not pull out of the ground. the root system would be about 7 feet and three months. what happens is it maintains itself where it is very resilient. it stands up well against flooding come up against drought. it can go for long periods of time in water, without water. you can burn it. but it will grow back. it takes the nitrates and phosphates out of the soil and water. it takes the heavy metals out of the water. >> in this case, with our weapons being inundated with heavy crude, this wod be ideal to not just plant on the sand berms we want to build but as we ild back our wetlands, this woulbe the perfect plant species to put into the wetlands because of its ability to be able to take in those hydrocarbons to almost clean the area. >> we are not sure how much of the hydrocarbons at could clean at this point. that is an unknown. we know it can withstand some

the northern part of africa, look at the problems with drugs, ridiculous, and south america. everyone is afraid to talk to north korea. i think it is unevenly handed the way we have to decide when and where we will choose to spread freedom in the world. host: "the financial times" this morning. karzai still key to success of the mission. that is "the financial times." on our republican line from new york is gary. go ahead. it's a time to get out of afghanistan? -- is it time to get out of afghanistan? caller: i would like to leave this decision to the troops. it seems like they get avoided every time -- either political or public. and the troops -- it seems like we should have somebody polling for our troops because who has a better vision of what is going on there than them? host: in fact, if you are active duty personnel, to 02-628-0184 is the number to call. the next call comes from jack in baltimore on our independent line. caller: thank you for c-span. we can't get out of afghanistan. i think we are only fighting half of the enemy. i believe the representatives of afghan

the use it all over africa. it is used in central louisiana but not in south louisiana. once this plant is planted, it grows very rapidly, within three months. you would not be able to pull out of the ground. the root system grows six or 7 feet in three months. it will maintain itself and it is very resilient breed it stands up very well against flooding, against drought, it can go for long periods of time in water. it can go without water. you can burn it and it will grow back. it takes the nitrates and phosphates out of the soil and the water. it takes the heavy metals out of the water. >> in this case, with our wetlands being inundated by heavy crude, this would be ideal not to be able to just plant on the sand burns we want to build but as we build back our wetlands, this would be the perfect plant species to put into the wetlands. it would allow us to be able to take in those hydrocarbons and almost clean the area? >> we are not sure exactly how much of the hydrocarbons it would exactly clean. that is in on number did we know it can withstand some. we would like to