president marshall: yes, sir? >> commissioner, if i may, we were talking about september 1, and i think september 1 we already have the control special, and it is a disciplinary matter that was orderered back september 1. president marshall: the community was going to take a look at some things that were written down and had been on the list for a while. they were making priority zigs about them. >> yes, sir. can do. i wanted to make those notes about september 3. we already have the agenda. it is a matter of items set for that agenda. on the subject of agendas, the city attorney pointed out, our item 6-b, we have never made it an action item. it has always been a discussion item, and that's what resulted in the origin of our priority list. i mean, we could rework the agenda to include an action item on such things so the decision is made right then and there. president marshall: i don't think we have any action items tonight? >> we do have some, but not under item 6. if you look at heam 6, none of what we've been

president marshall: 6-a? it normally gets assigned. >> i'm wondering if we can reverse items a and b, if the president will allow that, because under b i would like to address something pertaining to the assignment of cases. president marshall: ok. to make things easy, i will accept these two cases. let's make things easy and do it that way. >> commissioner, before we leave 6-a, i should announce the demigs will be holding a special election other than city hall, and that's next week on august 25th, next wednesday evening, the commissioner will hold its community meeting at the tende rloin, and we will hearp comments from neighborhood residents and businesspeople in the area and also tender loin -- tenderloin station captain, joseph garritty. president marshall: a community meeting. it's been a while. >> 6-b, the scheduling of items identified for future commission meetings. president marshall: anybody? commissioner kingsley: there are two items. i think we're all -- it seems like we're in agreement in terms

president marshall: item 8? >> 8 would be a vote to hold the closed session. >> commissioner dejesus: second. >> commissioner, it is 10:52 p.m., and the commission has closed session. moving to item 10, the vote to elect to disclose any or all of the discussion held in closed session. >> move for non-disclosure. >> then we will return to item 3. >> i think we should move to keep the remaining items on the calendar. every item that is remaining, i think we should continue those matters to the next police commission. >> i have a quick thing. i do not think we need to vote on this. i think we need to get this done between this meeting and the next one -- the hiring of new commission staff. i need to let you know that we would like to request that a chart -- that hr put up a help wanted sign. i do not think we need to vote on this. commissioner dejesus and i will tell hr. we don't need to hire anyone. we just need to put up a notice. commissioner hammer: i want to second commissioner mazzucco's motion. we could agre

president marshall: if there are no more speakers, then this item is closed. go right ahead. >> i didn't have to take these pills this month. i was able to make food. canibus is a medicine, and i can't lose it. [inaudible] president marshall: all right. this item is now closed. i want to thank commissioner dehey suse for bringing it -- dejesus for getting it to our attention and get tg approved. >> -- commissioner dejesus: i want to thank the department for everyone working together on this issue. thank you. president marshall: we will then move the agenda back to item number one. we'll go back to the regular agenda. the clerk: mr. president, item 1. sir, we'll give the room a moment to clear. 7:11 peam. that is public comment. this is where members of the public may address the commission for a period of time determined by the chair. subject matters that are within the jurisdiction of the commission but do not appear on the agenda. >> thank you, lieutenant. this is general public comment on issues that

president marshall: ms. brown? thank you. >> commissioners, i am a block captain of the tenderloin and a 30-year resident of the tenderloin. i would like to thank all of you for coming to our neighborhood. it is nice to see you here. i would like to thank the captain. i have known him since he started out. i have one thing to say. i was not brought out here. the tenderloin police district has the highest arrest record, the highest narcotics arrest record, the highest narcotics prosecution record, and the longest sentences of any district in this city. we are unique. this neighborhood is proactive. the police department is proactive. the men and women of our department and the station deserve a round of applause for that pro-active work. thank you. president marshall: next speaker, please? >> commissioners, i don't live in this district, but i have e- mailed the captain of the station. i would like to have the newsletter's continued. it reminds us when the meeting is going to be held. i have not gotten my station's

commission president joe marshall? president marshall: present. vice president mazzucco present. commissioner dejesus: present. commissioner chan: present. commissioner hammer: present. commissioner kingsley: present. president marshall: this is the regular meeting of the san francisco police commission, wednesday august 18, 2010. would you please call item 1? >> item 1 is approval of the minutes from the regular meetings of april 28, 2010, and may 5, 2010. president marshall: those minutes are in your packet. if there are no changes, i will take the motion for approval. without objection, so ordered. item two, please. >> item 2 is the consent calendar, under which we have four items. the second quarter status summary report of officer shooting investigations, the second quarter for ron discharge review board findings, the quarterly report by the department and office of citizen complaints regarding policy proposals, and the office of citizen complaints monthly comprehensive statistical port january through july 2010 and january through july 2009. president marshall: some of thes

commissioner hammer: that's all i had, commissioner marshall. president marshall: anything else? all right. the next issue is commission office staffing. commissioner kingsley: i will explain. commissioner dejesus and i talked with the offices and they gave us an additional arm for commissioner reilly who has worked hard on our docket of cases. basically, weigh want you to review these options and vote on which one you prefer. so for the legal assistance option, and of course, you can vote for neither of them, but this is the proposal here. for the legal assistant, the salary is about the same as the court clerk, so the salary doesn't make much of a difference. the experience this person would have is they have parallel studies, the associates degree, with six months work in a legal setting. their skill they generally have, or tracking system for adjusting claims, cornedse and communicates with attorneys, they analyze depositions, and briefs, affidavits, they conduct legal research, they help with legal research and staff and legislation. that's the qualification for legal assist

president marshall: item 8? >> 8 would be a vote to hold the closed session. >> commissioner dejesus: second. >> about four years ago, [inaudible] look at how beautiful this was. there is our relationship to the planet. these regions are the wealthiest, the most powerful. that really has impacted the planet. it is almost impossible now to go anywhere and had it really be completely dark. there are very few locations that you can find. that means our relationship to the sky, there is a way where we dominate the sky. we cannot see anything really. we are blinding ourselves in a way. >> you can look at the images, they are beautiful.

president marshall: item 8? >> 8 would be a vote to hold the closed session. >> commissioner dejesus: second. >> commissioner, it is 10:52 p.m., and the commission has closed session. moving to item 10, the vote to elect to disclose any or all of the discussion held in closed session. >> move for non-disclosure. >> then we will return to item 3. >> i think we should move to keep the remaining items on the calendar. every item that is remaining, i think we should continue those matters to the next police commission. >> i have a quick thing. i do not think we need to vote on this. i think we need to get this done between this meeting and the next one -- the hiring of new commission staff. i need to let you know

president marshall: any last speakers in general? fub comment -- public comment une -- closed. >> a couple years ago because we lacked supervision the sergeant was given extra tasks. he was never taken awhich from the dog detail, he was never taken away from the assignment. if it was going to be shut down, i would be the one to do it. i did not do it. it will always be manned by personnel. it will always have the dog unit. the department's position that we had never, ever shut it down, we weren't going to shut it doufpblet -- down. somehow this information -- herndon is retiring in 11 months. weerdog going to bring new people in there. that unit will always be thrfment i will be -- there. we will not be shutting it down. i am giving my word. this unit will not be shut down. it was never going to be shut down. the article in the paper happened before they asked us. this operation was never, ever going to be shut down. president marshall: we can't really engage in public comment about this. and tuling actually it probably should have u

president marshall: thank you. hamilton p hamilton lam i want to thank -- commissioner hammer: i want to thank commander crenshaw, too. >> i have practiced in front of the dog court and i have been in front of the dog court. officers were excellent at the vicious animal court. they are well versed regarding canine behavior. they were there consistently so they got the feel of it. they knew what was going on. their decisions were fair and balanced. i think they were compassionate at the dog court. i am sorry to hear that sergeant herndan has retired. i think we should recognize the valuable service that these officers have given to san francisco. 6 -- commissioner dejesus: also, i want to thank you, captain barrett and ms. katz for collaborating and meeting with the community and coming up with some ideas. i wasn't at the meeting, so i wanted to ask some clarification. officer hicks, are you going to be a hearing officer, or will there be rotating hearing officers? i'm not sure. >> i am the hearing officer. i think

every year we look at the marshall swift index and attach a local modifiers. it comes to you to consider whether to adopt or not, revisions to cost schedule. this year, nationwide, there has been a decline in construction valuation under the marshall swift index. not necessarily -- well -- when me and my team study valuation, if we were to adopt a wholesale change in the marshall swift, we would see a reduction in cost evaluation. we do not recommend that for a number of reasons. we do not believe it accurately reflects san francisco. we have seen an increase of about tuition -- the valuation, not the total amount of construction, the cost has not declined significantly. our service cost, secondly, have not proportionally declined either. they have stayed the same or gone up. my recommendation, even though i provide the documentation, my recommendation is we defer consideration of any adjustment or modification of cost of tuition until next year when we get the next cost valuation from marshall swift and then reconsider what our trends and costs are. the goal

president marshall: i know. i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i would suggest that whatever we are going to do, we take care of it quickly now because time is short and i am not going to be here for the rest of the closed session, and if it is something that pertains to something i have worked on, i would appreciate doing it quickly now. president marshall: we have a motion. we have a second to move into closed session? without objection so ordered. commissioner dejesus: i think if she's saying there is an open matter -- >> we should do it at this point in time. president marshall: that's the problem, if we do that, we'll never get to this. we may not get to these others. >> ok. fine. president marshall: moving to closed session. >> the moving party was commissioner pan and the second was commissioner dejesus. police commission will move into closed session at 8 >> before we continue, is there something special about reopening an earlier -- >> no. >> we can move to item ten, which is a vote to elect -- whether to disclose any or all

president marshall: we have a full agenda tonight. we may be here when you are on -- when you are all gone in bed. but might still be here. we are taking an item out of order. the agenda says there is a special order right at the top. we are going to continue the call of item number four. >> thank you. before i proceed, let me introduce the assistant chief of police and the director of the office of citizen complaints. we are moving to item four, the presentation regarding the sf pd's medical marijuana policy. president marshall: present the presentation of the department first. >> thank you. standing before you is the commanding officer of the investigations bureau. he will give the power point presentation and be available to answer any questions regarding the medical marijuana presentation. that is if he can get the computer to work. [laughter] >> good evening, president marshall, commissioners, director, and chief. i am the commander of investigations with the police department. i am here tonight to talk to you about the police de

president marshall: anymore speakers on this particular issue? yes, sir. >> good evening, commissioners. my name is david owen. thank you for addressing this issue. i spent number of years coming in and out of this room in a different role at the board of supervisors. at the time we were regulating supervisors. there was one commission i have never spoken before. thank you for the staff in your department who are working so closely with various folks in this community. it is laudable. i work in a slightly different capacity. it is the same collect yiffs of various sizes and various parts of california. one year in san francisco and elsewhere. i want to stress there are many areas of cultivation which fit in the structure legally for how this should occur. i want to encourage you as this process goes forward to consider what some other juries dicks have already done. san francisco in 2005, when we led in this area, were leaders. san francisco and oakland were inventing the idea. the determine "dispensary" didn't exist. now there are many areas tha

president marshall: commissioner mazzucco. vice president mazzucco: we spoke last week about the homicide issue. i agree with you that no homicide is a good homicide. reality is that the entertainment commission has control over these venues. we are responsible for the procedures and policies of the police department. in my conversation with with you we talked about how we can get this on our radar screen. in our discussion i said i would like to have some indication from the police department, how much is this nightclub activity a drain on our resources? and commissioner dejesus and i talked about this. that's where we come into play. it is a drain on our resources. the comment you made to me on these weekend nights there are 14 or 15 or 16 of these parties that brings out police activity, and i am told you have to move police facilities into these district stations. the police department and the resources are front and center of this. we -- what are we doing with policing these events. so i called you. i was very concerned