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robin sax. robin, let me start with you. what do you think of the plea bargain deal with sheen? >> this is probably the biggest case for people crying celebrity justice that you've ever seen out there. i'm sure if you talk to mark, in light of his chris brown settlement, he wishes he got that celebrity deal that charlie sheen got. three months of probation. 36 hours of anger management, is not within the realm of the most lenient of lenient sentences. >> yeah, he's been to rehab several times. in 1996, he pleaded no contest to attacking a girlfriend in her home. his ex-wife, who was that -- i'm sorry. denise richardson. >> richards. >> yes. she had a restraining order against him. all this going on. as robin said, mark, not even any kind of time that he has to serve as far as the domestic violence is concerned. any counseling. what do you make of all this? >> i make that the prosecutor had a devil of a time trying to make their case. they don't give these things away easily. obviously, they had already reconciled. on top of it, she didn't want to cooperate. she was out of state.

robin -- >> look at this crowd. >> these are the folks that robin, so connected to. there's a look at that rain. that is what they're up against with the smiles on their faces and umbrellas in hand this morning. robin, we'll check back with you shortly. george off this morning. he'll be back on monday. >>> also this half hour more stories of brazilians. we talked to the family. they were hold their daughter was dead after the hospital mixed her up with a victim of a terrible accident. they mourned her for days even planned her funeral, before they learned that the woman in the hospital bed was their daughter. we're going to check in with that family. >>> we're going to begin this half hour, with something that most of us take for granted. the simple pleasure of being able to smile, being able to smell. connie culp. it was right here on "good morning america," diane sawyer introduced her to us last year. diane is here this morning. when you came back from cleveland and walked into the newsroom, i could read your face. you were so moved by her. >> we talked about the p

robin? >> okay, there, sam. thank you. >>> in this morning's "america's health," we take you to the cutting edge in medicine, technology that's pushing hospitals head-long into the future of medical care, from hand scans to robots in the operating room. and juju is back with that. >> i grew up loving "star trek." it's a guilty secret on my part. but i'm amazed how much sci-fi readers dreamed up decades ago is becoming standard today. we had robots, computers and scanning equipment, to make diagnosis better and faster and life-saving surgery more accurate. there are few things more traumatic than being hospitalized. but from coast-to-coast, medical centers are upgrading to the latest technology. and the future might be here sooner than you think. in california, el camino hospital calls itself the first smart hospital. the newest technology meets you almost at the front door. a biometric registration system, using palm scan, capturing a patient's unique vein pattern, which is linked to their medical file. extra se

robin? >> that's worth cheering about. thank you, sam. >>> next, if your company goes under, could they take your retirement with them? important tips. good morning! ♪ [ female announcer ] nutri-grain -- one good decision... ♪ ...can lead to another. ♪ ♪ ...made with real fruit and now with more of the whole grains your body needs. nutri-grain can help you eat better all day. it's a good snack. you're welcome. they grow so fast. [ woman ] i know. they do, don't they? why is carol sitting all the way over there? carol almost told evan that there are vegetables in the chef boyardee. nearly ruined their favorite after-school snack. so she's in a time-out. i hope she learns from this. [ female announcer ] chef boyardee micro beef ravioli microwave cups. an after-school snack with a full serving of vegetables. just don't tell them. shh. an after-school snack with a full serving of vegetables. no oil has flowed into the gulf for weeks, but it's just the beginning of our work. i'm iris cross. bp has taken full responsibil

>> okay, robin. thanks. >>> now, to washington, where a top economic adviser of president obama announced her resignation last night. christina romer will step down as chair of the economic council of economic advisers in september. this comes as we get the monthly jobs report this morning. jon karl is in washington. washington advisers insist this is a pure coincidence, that this resignation has been in the works for some time. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. and they say this is for absolutely personal reasons. she's going back to california to her old job, as professor of economics at the university of california at berkeley. and she is going back in time for her teenage son to begin high school. bit this is somebody who was one of the top spokesman for the president's economic policies, especially the stimulus. she met with him virtually every day for the last year and a half. and if you consider the departure last week of peter orszag, it's the second member of his team to be gone in a week. >>

good morning, robin. and it is hurricane earl that everyone is talking about this week because major cities from the eastern seaboard from the carolinas all to way to cape cod will be in that cone of uncertainty where the storm will go all week long. let's get to the boards. we'll show you three tropical systems in the atlantic this morning. of course, danielle the storm that passed earlier. the bright-colored one in the middle of the screen. let's show you what steers earl over the next couple of days. the hurricane center shows it will continue its track toward the east coast of the u.s. and then come up against a cold front that passes later this week towards thursday into friday all the way off the eastern seaboard. so if you're an old pinball fan, that would act as a bumper to take earl and shove it back to sea. otherwise, earl would be working straight toward the u.s. coastline so we'll be watching very carefully this week to see if earl does make the connection with that cold front. very, very impo

robin? >> sam, every couple of hours the hurricane center will be giving out information every couple hours now? >> yep. they've uped it to about every two hours. that's just the positioning of it. so everybody knows exactly where the storm is. the track, they'll do that every few hours. they won't update the idea for the track every two hours. but the position, they will. >> thanks, sam. >>> while the u.s. is preparing for earl's arrival, the storm has already hit the caribbean. that's where we find ryan owens, on the eastern edge of puerto rico. good morning, ryan. >> reporter: good morning, to you, robin. we still obviously have a little wind here. but for the most part, hurricane earl has moved away from this island, actually headed in your direction. puerto rico really just got a glancing blow. you can see for example, the boats behind me in the marina, they rode this thing out just fine. but further to the east, this storm left quite a trail of destruction. during hurricane earl tore a

robin? >> all right, sam. thank you. >>> the 20-year-old daughter of former new york mayor, rudy giuliani, was arrested on wednesday on charges of shoplifting. caroline giuliani made waves in 2007, for backing barack obama over her own father for president. now, this harvard student is in hot water and not just with her former prosecutor dad. andrea canning has more. >> reporter: caroline giuliani walked out of this police precinct with a smirk on her face, and a court date, after being charged with petty larceny for allegedly shoplifting makeup. an ironic twist that her father rudy giuliani took a big bite out of crime in the big apple. >> we have a dramatic crime decline. >> reporter: the former mayor is credited for cleaning up the streets, by cracking down on petty crimes. the very thing his daughter is now accused of. >> obviously, her father stood for law and order. and so, when it's violated in her own family, people are naturally going to think about that. >> reporter: police say the harvard theater ma

oh, robin? >> sam, thank you. >>> the 33 miners trapped 160 stories underground are getting basic creature comforts this morning. lights, aspirin, and letters from home. it takes a full hour to feed each small bag of supplies down a narrow hole to the miners. and still, no one can tell them when they will be rescued. how are they holding it together? jeffrey kofman is at the scene of the mine in chile. and joins us this morning. good morning, jeffrey. >> reporter: it's winter down here in the southern hemisphere. and it's cold. the uplifting news that the men are alive inside the hillside, is being tempered by the sobering reminder they are intombed in there. the focus is not just on their physical health. but also the mental health. on the hillside overlooking the collapsed mine, 33 flags hang in the wind. not in mourning. but of a constant reminder of the men trapped inside. this weekend, a huge drill will bore an escape tunnel half a mile down to where the men are trapped. >> they're in a hum

en el caso de molly robins, la decisiÓn se apresuro cuando a su esposo lo diagnosticaron con cÁncer. >>hubo un momento que yo me puse a pensar y dije: "bueno, aquÍ yo estoy viajando, estoy fuera toda la semana. si algo pasa, yo no estoy aquÍ. el aÑo pasado lo que hice... >>sin emabrgo el camino de empresaria puede ser largo y a veces solitario, me confesaron, porque aunque los triunfos son muy dulces, los problemas pueden ser especialmente amargos. >>de trabajar para sÍ mismo, es que tambiÉn uno no tiene la estabilidad que tiene un trabajo que se hace para una empresa, ¿no? porque uno no sabe lo que va a ganar. a veces le va bien y a veces le va mal. >>pero, a pesar de grandes retos, tanto hernÁndez como robins, dicen que han triunfado porque son persistentes. se han preparado y han estado dispuestas a pedir y a dar ayuda. ellas nunca olvidan a su gente. >>esta es de raquel welch. >>molly robins toma la mitad de las ganancias de sus camisetas diseÑadas por famosos, a su fundaciÓn que le da becas de estudio a jÓvenes hispanos de bajos recursos. y gabriela hernÁndez... >>hab

. >>> robin roberts was back in the gulf this weekend, as well. robin was on the air as katrina hit and did not hear from her family in pass christian, mississippi. she did get word shortly before going on the air, the next morning. >> robin, i know when you left here last night and flew down you hadn't been able to make contact with your own family yet. have you done so? >> they're okay. >> they're okay? >> i spoke with robin when the two of us teamed up for a program on facebook marking this anniversary. we talked about her role that morning as reporter and daughter. >> in fact, i wasn't going to be on the air unless i found my family, and i was able to. and i thought i admit emotions in check, you know, professional, okay, my family is okay, i've got to report the news, and the sun was starting to come up and i was just looking around me. and this is an area where i've lived since 1969. my father was at the air force base. we moved here then, we never left and i couldn't recognize some of this. where i am right now five years ago was rubble. my

i'm robin roberts. >> and i'm george stephanopoulos. it's wednesday, august 18th. and this morning, the holdout. a lone juror saves rod blagojevich of conviction on the most serious corruption charge. federal prosecutors promise to try again. the former governor fights on. >> i didn't break any laws. i didn't do anything wrong. >> this morning, a juror speaks. we have the inside story of the holdout. >>> terror aid. muslim extremists move in on the victims of the pakistan flood. and new concerns in the u.s. has food and water become the new weapon in the fight against terrorism? >>> the incredible egg recall. 228 million eggs have been linked to salmonella poisoning. how can you know? what can you do if a tainted egg is on your breakfast table this morning? >>> a new twist in the search for kyron horman. the stepmother's best friend breaks her silence. why she is supporting terri horman and her role in the investigation. >>> good morning, everyone. a very narrow escape for the former governor of illinoi

good morning, linsey. >> reporter: good morning, robin. people are finally starting to dish the details this about top secret event. this morning, "the washington post" said the couple's first dance was choreographed to the song "at last." and the details just keep on coming. these are the kinds of pictures typically found in a book that begins with "once upon a time" and ends with "happily ever after." from the floral gazebo to the harp in the corner, chelsea and marc had the classic storybook wedding. ♪ 'cause i love you ♪ >> reporter: the frank sinatra song that she danced to with her dad says it all. her dad was close to tears and biting his lip as he walked his only daughter down the aisle. her mom beamed in her oscar de la renta full length fuchsia gown. for such a big wedding, very few details leaked ahead of time thanks, in part, to the couple's wedding planner bryan rafanelli who told "the new york times" sunday that he required confidentiality with all of his vendors, saying this is how i run my business, protecting the priva

his kids say he's robin hood. the jury says if he's guilty, he could spend the rest of his life in prison. we'll hear from the dad and the daughters this morning. in a "gma" exclusive. andrea canning is bringing us that in a little bit. >> we look forward to that. >>> we will talk about training your dog. how is your new dog doing? >> daisy is -- ali's doing a very good job. i've been a little awol on the training. but ali's doing great. >> and training is very important. and we have someone coming along in the last half hour. find out how this dog's owner taught him to obey her every word without saying a single word. oh. >> she's amazing. she says you have to understand how dogs think, feel, and see. that's coming up in our next half hour. we got a big aw for the dog from the crowd here. >> it was the goat. >>> first, to juju with the news. >> good morning, george and od ningne.rning, george and we begin in iraq, where this morning, at least 60 recruits for the iraqi army were killed in a suicide attack at a bag

so, i actually -- thank you, robin. thanks so much for that. >> nice belt sam. >> thanks. >> is that george's belt? >> i'm not going to say whose it is. let's get to the boards. let's start with a twitter of manitoba. impress your friends with the determine caronal mass ejection. if you want to sound smart today. you get one more opportunity at it. usually the northern lights are in the extreme northern latitudes. it's now possible to see them in the northern u.s. most states. here's some strong storms from des moines through chicago to columbus. this is on the northern line of the big heat in the country. we see the storms develop along the front. and the front will drop south. and this is again, sounding smart. >> caronal mass ejection. >> very good. all that weather was brought to you by dairy queen. robin? >> and has a crown, to boot. thanks, sam. >>> now, our series mom & dad, we need to talk." we're talking about different generations having different values. and if your parents values are different from the one y

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robin, come on. i wanted to ask you also, when i was looking at one of the affidavits in the case, i was struck that the secret service was involved in this. not only the feds. but the secret service, as well. i started putting two and two together. i know they can freeze bank accounts. but is there another reason why this is a federal case? >> well, the los angeles county d.a.'s office would love to have this case because, really this appears to be a case where there is a ton of evidence. and the federal officials here in los angeles are notorious for only taking cases where there are lots of -- where there is a lot of evidence, where there is a lot of proof. and the biggest difference in this case, and probably why it went the federal route, besides the fact that it appears to be a lot of proof and evidence, is that the mandatory sentencing is much greater. and the punishment is much greater. thus, hopefully, insuring that the celebrities won't have to testify. and that there won't be a trial. >> i

robin? >> all right, clayton. thank you very much. >>> we're going to turn now to a man involved in this manhunt from the beginning. chief deputy u.s. marshal fidencio rivera, who joins us from phoenix. very good to see you under these circumstances. and we know so many officers were involved all across the country in trying to track down this couple. and it comes down to one alert forestry service officer. tell us about his key role in this. >> he was working near the mt. baldy wilderness area in the northeastern part of the state when he came upon a vehicle in an area that was not supposed to be at. >> and he was alert enough to take down the license plate number. and that really helped. >> that was a great help. he took down the plate number. they ran the plate number. and it came back a stolen vehicle out of new mexico, stolen somewhere nine santa rosa, new mexico, where the homicides took place. >> and then after three weeks of searching, everything went down pretty quickly. >> that's the way these things wor

and robin wright, an author and journalist who has covered iran since 1973. she's now a fellow at the u.s. institute of peace. her latest book is "dreams and shadows: the future of the middle east." welcome to you both. welcome back. so rob in beginning with you-- robin, beginning with you, what do you make of this, how significant of say development is this for iran's total nuclear program? in other words, should washington be alarmed here? >> well, bushar has never been the subject of u.n. resolutions it is for peaceful nuclear energy. but it does come at a very important time psychologically. the united states is trying to get iran to suspend nuclear-- uranium enrichment which can be used for a weapons program. and it comes at a time that we are all trying to figure out what is next. iran won't cooperate chkts is there a chance for diplomacy. are you beginning to hear the drumbeat of war already about iran. so psychologically the opening of this plant brings all of this home at the same time. >> warner: how do you see it. >> i would say that is largely acc

and next is -- [cheers and applause] >> next is robin black. >> hi, robin! >> oh, ok. i had to know. this is called "eviction notice." the police turned us away. 11 years old eating baby food. days warm like the occasional free matsoff from next door. no plates the cups were yoplaits. i stepped on a nail taking my sister through the yard the drinking from beer bottles that tasted like warm quarters the i caught fleas from cookie puss sleeping on my stomk keeping us both warms. at that age i lost the comfort from lies. stranded on a crescent move, floating in a sea of ash littered with diamonds the i swallowed past lives to spit these alternate futures. >> one more big round of applause for our very talented apprentice program. fantastic. >> the person i am excited to meet her. her book is called, my miserable, lonely lesbian pregnancy. please, partake our free pens. andrea. >> thank you for wearing my buttons. it comforts me to see sad faces. my miserable, lonly lesbian pregnancy. tonight i am going to read, to snip or not to snip. >> conception. i drive to the califor

robin, come on up, robin. >> hi, there. i am a small-business owner. we are a new food startup, but we emerged from the food culture. we have been involved with emobile food cart around the city -- with the mobile food cart. it is incredibly san francisco and in its thoughtfulness in nature. -- san franciscan in its thoughtfulness and nature. in terms of creating a new center and helping the city make this land more valuable for future use, and the ability to advance micro enterprise, which is so very san francisco, as well. so as a small-business owner, i just wanted to say that this is a fantastic path for the future, and we're very excited to contribute. president maxwell: well, good luck. i plan to get some ice cream. >> hi, i am jim, and i am here representing the neighborhood association transportation planning committee. about one year ago, we had a presentation that was brought to was for alternative uses on the parcels, and the hayes valley farm and other projects were represented. all of them were very, very enthusiastically received at the f

the same on the taxpayers' money i mean i see you have a real serious this the world needs to turn up robin hood should the rich be taxed more for the benefit to everyone else and what kind of. if six. what lies beneath the u.s. administration goes to great lengths to get its hands on the alleged russian arms dealer to boot testing the limits of international law as they push for his urgent extradition. big apple of discord to build a mosque at ground zero in new york opinion some say she was just a way of drawing attention from america's economic struggle. prince a self-proclaimed boils to of the russian president from the kremlin saying it's his given right to rule the country. the sports news is next now with the topic. at all welcome. to the europa league group stages after a six one aggregate win over. have a three two deficit to overcome against the young boys in their champions league play off on wednesday. and take your pig in the spots we can name the russian premier league choosing a favorite from our goals go already. so there's got most scoring to group stages of the europa leag

we love robin williams. [ cheers and applause ] very funny guy. he celebrated by doing a 20-minute routine about his cake. [ impersonating williams ] "oh, look at the flames. it's like it's a bunch of people trying to get frankenstein out of the frosting, yes. thank you, yes. oh, i feel like jay-z. i got 59 candles but a wick ain't one, yes. thank you." [ laughter ] "yes, it's a lot of fire. even the head of bp's going, 'stop wasting fuel,' yes. thank you." [ laughter ] yeah, robin, just -- we'll blow out the candles, you -- [ laughter ] hey, guys, listen to this. there's a new bill here in new york that would make it easier to report abusive bosses. yeah. you think people are gonna do that, higgins? >> steve: no. who would do that? i wouldn't do that. i'm not gonna do that. >> jimmy: huh? [ laughter ] what'd you say? >> steve: nothing. >> jimmy: what'd you say to me? [ crying ] >> steve: i didn't say anything. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that's right. you didn't say anything. [ cheers and applause ] and finally, "sports illustrated" just reported that

. >> larry: robin williams. >> oh, it's a beautiful thing, yes, thank you. the kids at home going -- where's larry? what's up? kick and chain and hello. hi. oh yes. thank you. >> larry: you know about robin williams? never remember anything he did. try to repeat the next day robin williams' jokes. >> 100 of them. >> larry: i know. let's do one more adam sandler, one you did. >> okay. he has like three levels. mumbling adam like, good to see you, buddy, all right. how are you doing, pal? crazy voice and -- and then he does the screaming where he goes -- shut up! >> larry: was that -- you said your mother liked the way you did that? >> yeah. >> larry: did you imitate family members? did you do your aunt? >> yeah i would just do like i think i would be in my room and do impressions of my dad and do grandpa and my dad was very -- my mom, performers in the house. they have house parties and we're irish and that's what irish people do. they get together, they have a good time and someone sings a sad song and then cry and then go to sleep. maybe there's a fight. >>

. >> steve: it wasn't robin sacks? [ laughter ] i'm just wondering. >> jimmy: "castration, by robin sacks," no. [ laughter ] not by robin sacks. >> steve: okay. >> jimmy: look at this. look at this -- just look at the cover, even. great job on that cover. if this type had a volume, it would be -- [ yelling ] "castration!" [ speaking normally ] "the advantages" [ whispering ] "and the disadvantages." [ laughter ] the advantages are so much bigger. victor t. cheney is definitely pro-castration, which is definitely creepy. [ laughter ] he must introduce himself at dinner parties. like, "hey, vick cheney." and people, "hey, did you say dick cheney? the ex-vice president?" and he's like, "no, vick, with a 'v'. or, perhaps you heard of my book -- [ yelling ] 'castration!' the advantages [ whispering ] and the disadvantages.'" [ laughter ] and then, whoever he's talking to runs away, because they're so creeped out. let's move on. i just have to say again, these are real books. you can buy them anywhere. oh, this is a great bo

robin hood tax ben can i go to you on this one here there is it's called the no brainer. we get four hundred billion to six hundred billion dollars a year and we can use it for charities we can use it for the environment. popular it's growing in popularity in europe it's even going to be discussed at the g. twenty i mean how viable is this kind of tax on financial transactions because again it's a real populous nervy thing because of the banks and bankers what do you think about it ben well i think in general it's not a good idea to tax angry we need smart tax policy not just you know knee jerk reactions to what's happening and i'm not convinced that a financial transactions tax is the right way to go i think that's still up in the bay and i don't have a strong feeling one way or another but i do think that there are better taxes that we can levy like i said earlier a tax on carbon emissions a value added tax scott brought up the fact that every country in europe has every developed country has a value added tax the reason they are every country has a value added tax is b

follow and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle does the world need the return of robin hood should the rich be taxed more for the benefit of everyone else and what kind of global financial system is necessary that goes beyond protecting and enriching individuals and banks. to. discuss whether taxes taxing the rich would help i'm joined by benjamin harris he's a senior research associate at the economic studies program at the brookings institution and we have scott hodge he's the president of the tax foundation and curtis do bay he's a senior policy analyst at the heritage foundation and another member of our cross talk team on the hunger all right benjamin if i can go to you first and then a number of states in the u.s. and a number of countries in the european union and elsewhere are in acting or trying to enact millionaires taxes soak the rich make them pay during this time of economic crisis of economic turndown is that the right strategy is i just populism or is it something or something to it the rich should pay more because they have more. well peter let me just start by sayi

barack obama's raising money for robin carnahan. why? >> i need another vote. it'd be helpful. >> he knows robin carnahan will rubber stamp the pelosi-reid- obama liberal agenda: >> woodruff: which highlights the question some vulnerable democratic candidates are surely asking themselves-- can a push from the president do more harm than good? former republican congressman tom davis says it depends on where they are. >> the president maintains a strong popularity among african americans. to get a democratic base model that helps elect democrats, he can be very helpful. on the other hand, among independent voters, particularly in the south and the midwest, and the west, at this point, he's probably a liability. and candidates want to run showing their independence, not the fact that they will be obama robots. >> woodruff: richard norton smith agrees it's a tricky question for democrats facing serious challenges. >> its a question of the level of visibility. how visibly do you want to be associated with the president? you certainly want to be associated with the p

of these people my uncle, my grand mother and so forth, all were from a town land called outside of robin. when i was growing up i would hear the names. and they would conjure the sense of another world i was no longer a part of but was connected to. i think the -- i came to the brink of this sort of, you know, really quest gradualy by hearing the names. the other experience i had when i was growing up is music in my grand mother's house. my grand mother live on the first floor of the apartment building the door was open. everyone in the apartment building stopped there after work. they would stop for a drink and play polka, not polka, poker. and lynched to john gibbons play an accordion on his wooden leg. you had the sense of people having come over if not in mass by a great number to this other place with a kind of echo of that place being transposed into the world that became my world. so that of my mother's side of the family. my father's side was more mysterious. over time i heard stories of lost aunts and saint john >> new found land which is not where they are from and a deeper ech