the uri, you didn't go to uri, though, you went to wellesley. and then you went on from there to where? >> oxford. university. >> how many years were you there? >> one. >> what did you study? >> theology. >> then where did you go? >> i went to new jersey. >> and what did you study there? >> at princeton i studied the origins and history of ancient christianity. >> you taught in a number of institutions. would you list those for us? >> i taught at princeton briefly, i taught at u.c. berkeley, university of pittsburgh, for a year i was at the hebrew university at jerusalem and currently at boston unive >> you have? >> yes, indeed. >> i got my degree in '79. >> you're the professor of the appreciation of scripture, you've been doing that for what? >> since '90. >> for nine years. three books to your credit? >> that's true. >> i notice that you retreated from some of your statements from your first book, "jesus of nazareth, king of the jews." what changed in the 11 years between the publication oftwo b. >> my first book was "from jesus to christ." a

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if you heard exactly the same story and uri liberal, you would -- and you are a liberal, you would say that we need license plate police. when making the reagan fell, -- reagan fell, we went to the electrician at the london shipyards. he became the head of solidarity. we went to poland -- he spent three years in jail fighting the soviets. we ask the question. what was the decisive moment in the collapse of the soviet empire? they both said, it was nine days in june of 1979 before ronald reagan was elected. he was not collected until november of 1980. -- not elected. what happened in june of 1979 was that pope john paul the second, the first polish pope in history, went back to poland and led a nine-day pilgrimage. during the nine-day pilgrimage, he aroused so much emotional belief, religious belief, that the peoples of poland began a 10-year struggle. five months later, the berlin wall fell. we made a movie called "nine days that change the world." in making this movie, i was struck with how similar we are. the pope goes to the warsaw, it is an enormous crowd. they looked around and th