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and this occurred to try to run iran iran is a different story ok go to iran is more than story iran is preparing is preparing parrott preparing for a nuclear weapons program and that is unfortunately unacceptable for regional and global security and so if iran does not desist then either saluki i've called for military action i called for it in the new york times in december of last year and that doesn't answer my question what does iran and if iran pulled out of the n.p.t. would they have the right then to pursue nuclear weapons and and if not why not ok professor marandi i'd like to go to you and we've got to come is that do you do you see any sense that i mean look i mean you know what american media very very well i mean do you see this drumbeat coming against your country attack against your country by the united states and possibly israel or israel and the united states depending on the pecking order. well first i'd like to say that i'm very disappointed in what your guest had to say effectively what he was saying was that we should murder and murder iranians and destroy parts
and this occurred to try to run iran iran is a different story ok go to iran is more than story iran is preparing is preparing parrott preparing for a nuclear weapons program and that is unfortunately unacceptable for regional and global security and so if iran does not desist then either saluki i've called for military action i called for it in the new york times in december of last year and that doesn't answer my question what does iran and if iran pulled out of the n.p.t. would they have the...
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but we did not enjoy it we have never enjoyed the special influence over iran iran has never been a comfortable partner for us so this is number one and number two i do not believe that iran will just say thank you very much we are not happy with russia's behavior and this is how we leave russia is all part of this this will not happen because iran is. isolated on the international arena iran does not have million friends in the world and they believe that russia is still a friend of iran it's a friend of iranian people it's a friend of iran as a country definitely and this is why the post and their further decisions like using military force against iran because we believe that that would be a disaster yes they have questions towards the iranian nuclear program but that does not mean they are absolutely convinced that iran while it's its obligations according to the nonproliferation treaty while the united states and their allies in nato sometimes are much more convinced than that and we know that united states and their allies sometimes make mistakes while being. much convinced on
but we did not enjoy it we have never enjoyed the special influence over iran iran has never been a comfortable partner for us so this is number one and number two i do not believe that iran will just say thank you very much we are not happy with russia's behavior and this is how we leave russia is all part of this this will not happen because iran is. isolated on the international arena iran does not have million friends in the world and they believe that russia is still a friend of iran it's...
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in iran. the regime tries to use these interviews as a sign, as they it as a sign of iran's importance in the international community the fact that everybody wants to interview him is not seen by them as the fact that he has become a mr. magoo character and has become a caricature of a head of state, they see it as a sign of importance and they milk it, and from political prisoners within the last 24 hours a gentleman who is the undersecretary in the interior ministry met with his wife and said, "tell the international community, these are all lies and i'm willing to come and show and debate and prove it is false." >> charlie: what do you do and what do all of you do and beyond those of us who are reporters, what do you do to bring the pressure of an international community to the human -- to those cases? >> i think it's absolutely essential that we continue to raise awareness. all of my friends who have been political prisoners in iran, including haleh will tell you it was heartening for them
in iran. the regime tries to use these interviews as a sign, as they it as a sign of iran's importance in the international community the fact that everybody wants to interview him is not seen by them as the fact that he has become a mr. magoo character and has become a caricature of a head of state, they see it as a sign of importance and they milk it, and from political prisoners within the last 24 hours a gentleman who is the undersecretary in the interior ministry met with his wife and...
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many iraqis were born in iran. every year five million people cross the borders between the two countries. in security in iraq, therefore, who do you think it would impact first and foremost. if it had security, who do you think it would impact first? now on top of that, is it the american troops or the iranian troops that are in the borders of iraq? is it us stationing our troops along the borders or is it the united states that has troops on both sides of our borders? on the east and west. i mean, these equations are fundamentally wrong and i think that if we can sincerely sit down and talk, these can all be talked about. mr. obama could come here, i'd gladly sit down with him and talk, we can find some solutions. i don't want to go back to the past. i look to the future. and i think that there's this problem that we need to resolve and we have to address the root cause of the problem. what is this? is the problem... what is the problem in afghanistan. where does it come from. why is it resolved? >> rose: and afg
many iraqis were born in iran. every year five million people cross the borders between the two countries. in security in iraq, therefore, who do you think it would impact first and foremost. if it had security, who do you think it would impact first? now on top of that, is it the american troops or the iranian troops that are in the borders of iraq? is it us stationing our troops along the borders or is it the united states that has troops on both sides of our borders? on the east and west. i...
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the future of iran. ahmadinejad, and change. chile, and iran. next. funding for "charlie rose" was provided by the following. >> over a century ago, gottlieb daimler wrote four words tharp a -- that were a promise to himself and to the world. a promise to invent the first automobile and to keep reinventing. to build the type of cars that define true performance while never sacrificing their true beauty. and to introduce innovations that help save lives and the planet. four simple words mercedes benz lives by to this day. the best, or nothing. that is what drives us. >> additional funding provided by these funders. >> and by bloomberg. a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. ♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." ♪ >> charlie: sebastian pinera was elected president of chile in january with a mandate to create jobs and bolster the economy. he is chile's third richest citizen. 13 days before he took office, his country suffered one of the most devastating earthquakes in recorded history. he dubbed hi
the future of iran. ahmadinejad, and change. chile, and iran. next. funding for "charlie rose" was provided by the following. >> over a century ago, gottlieb daimler wrote four words tharp a -- that were a promise to himself and to the world. a promise to invent the first automobile and to keep reinventing. to build the type of cars that define true performance while never sacrificing their true beauty. and to introduce innovations that help save lives and the planet. four...
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and of course from iran so far we have been seeing very mixed messages from saying that iran's doors of cooperation and dialogue are open and we also heard the radian president say that he believes that if the united states tries to launch some sort of attack on iran's uranium facilities that would mean want war. reporting from new york at the u.n. summit there now look at some other stories making headlines around the world at least ten people have been killed in a bomb attack in the iranian town of. about twenty others were injured the bomb detonated during a military parade as the country marked the thirtieth anniversary of the beginning of the war with iraq a provincial governor believes that kurdish separatists are behind the attack. china has demanded that japan release the captain of a fishing boat was detained in the east china sea the country's premier wen jiabao has threatened to take action against japan if the situation is not addressed the chinese vessel crashed into two japanese coast guard boats near taiwan two weeks ago the crew were arrested causing beijing to suspen
and of course from iran so far we have been seeing very mixed messages from saying that iran's doors of cooperation and dialogue are open and we also heard the radian president say that he believes that if the united states tries to launch some sort of attack on iran's uranium facilities that would mean want war. reporting from new york at the u.n. summit there now look at some other stories making headlines around the world at least ten people have been killed in a bomb attack in the iranian...
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iran is the only part of the n.p.t. that cannot demonstrate the peace the peaceful intentions of its nuclear program. and those actions have consequences obama didn't mention the solution other countries see but. must destruction through resolve in the middle east as well as been busy each united nations security council resolution this would of course require the us to acknowledge the nuclear weapons israel is believed to have so when obama opines there what unites us as human beings is far greater than what divides us in order to convince the united nations of that the u.s. may need to start truly playing by the emerging rules multilateralism is the international face of democracy lauren lyster r t new york. a lawyer and lister joins me live now from our new york studio to give us even more details on this story now lawrence so in your report we heard a lot of what barack obama had to say and a lot of it focused on global cooperation countries working together multilateralism now in that sense you know if we think of
iran is the only part of the n.p.t. that cannot demonstrate the peace the peaceful intentions of its nuclear program. and those actions have consequences obama didn't mention the solution other countries see but. must destruction through resolve in the middle east as well as been busy each united nations security council resolution this would of course require the us to acknowledge the nuclear weapons israel is believed to have so when obama opines there what unites us as human beings is far...
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it's iran's nuclear activities. no one expresses fear about iran's nuclear activities in the region except the zionist regime and the fear of some american authorities. we are not seeking the bomb. we have no interest in it. and we do not think it is useful. we are standing firm over the issue that both the zionist regime and the united states government should be disarmed. the threat to the world are the bombs that the u.s. government and the zionist regime have. if they think that by propagating against iran that they can basically change their opinion, they are wrong. we will pursue it in all international organizations. we will discuss in the review process. the zionist regime was required. the document ratified by the ntp review conference to address its nuclear arsenal. so the u.s. government too must pursue this idea to ensure that the zionist regime's nuclear arsenal is eliminated because this regime is an illegitimate war-waging country. it has also proved that it does not have sufficient control over its n
it's iran's nuclear activities. no one expresses fear about iran's nuclear activities in the region except the zionist regime and the fear of some american authorities. we are not seeking the bomb. we have no interest in it. and we do not think it is useful. we are standing firm over the issue that both the zionist regime and the united states government should be disarmed. the threat to the world are the bombs that the u.s. government and the zionist regime have. if they think that by...
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russia shelves the supply of missile defense systems to iran falling into step with the latest sanctions. and we bring you the latest from the united nations summit. meeting says he'll need each other and should work on missiles of. iran by the international community to resume talks we'll bring you all the latest updates from new york and. broadcasting live from our studios in central moscow this is certainly glad to have you with us the arctic's untapped natural wealth is a source of great temptation for the countries surrounding the ice cap is estimated that billions of barrels of oil lie beneath the sea and the arctic nations are keen to secure their share some of the finest scientific minds have gathered in moscow to make sure a different kind of cold war doesn't break out. reports. fifty billion tons of oil one thousand trillion cubic feet of gas that's enough to supply the entire world for more than a few years and it's just an estimate of what's hidden in the arctic sea bed the underwater riches of the north pole are a temptation for the five arctic states russia the us canada no
russia shelves the supply of missile defense systems to iran falling into step with the latest sanctions. and we bring you the latest from the united nations summit. meeting says he'll need each other and should work on missiles of. iran by the international community to resume talks we'll bring you all the latest updates from new york and. broadcasting live from our studios in central moscow this is certainly glad to have you with us the arctic's untapped natural wealth is a source of great...
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and of course from iran so far we have been seeing very mixed messages from saying that iran's doors of cooperation and dialogue are open and we also heard the radian president see that he believes that if the united states tries to launch some sort of attack on iran's uranium facilities that would mean more war also a lot of media attention focused on the meeting of the middle east quartet as well was really positive news from them. well uh positive or not we're going to have to wait and see but definitely we saw an outcome when these talks of the quartet were held between russia the u.s. the e.u. and the united nations basically the main outcome has been an urge to wards israel to extend its freeze on settlement construction in the west bank and gaza and the reason this is important is because this has been one of the main milestones in the talks between israelis and palestinians because the palestinian people have been seeing them that if settlement construction there continues israel can forget about dialogue and this is of course something that's absolutely essential to trying t
and of course from iran so far we have been seeing very mixed messages from saying that iran's doors of cooperation and dialogue are open and we also heard the radian president see that he believes that if the united states tries to launch some sort of attack on iran's uranium facilities that would mean more war also a lot of media attention focused on the meeting of the middle east quartet as well was really positive news from them. well uh positive or not we're going to have to wait and see...
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that's definitive one part of iran's nuclear program they're saying that what iran has shown us we have seen that's not saying that the entire program gets a clean bill of health and that's the concern about iran is that it's doing certain things that it opens up to the i.a.e.a. and then it's doing other things that it doesn't open up to the i.a.e.a. so it opens up the peaceful part but it hides the weapons part ok professor marandi could i go to you in toronto would you agree with that i mean on one side there is clarity another side there isn't clarity that's what our guest is saying. well no i would disagree with what your guest says the i.a.e.a. has never claimed that iran has a military program in fact as we've seen over the years no evidence whatsoever has ever been given to show that iran's program is anything but peaceful and you have to take into account that the international atomic energy agency its board is highly influenced by western countries it is not a democratic body and despite the fact that it's not a democratic body iran allowed intrusive inspections for over two ye
that's definitive one part of iran's nuclear program they're saying that what iran has shown us we have seen that's not saying that the entire program gets a clean bill of health and that's the concern about iran is that it's doing certain things that it opens up to the i.a.e.a. and then it's doing other things that it doesn't open up to the i.a.e.a. so it opens up the peaceful part but it hides the weapons part ok professor marandi could i go to you in toronto would you agree with that i mean...
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and then convinced iran wants it. and if we all are reasonable and if we all recognize that there are security interests of iran just like there are security interests of other countries in the region, if we recognize that iran must cooperate, we fully remove any reasonable doubt, any doubt at all regarding its nuclear program. and if we engage iran on these grounds, if we develop a package which would oblige iran to do what we all wanted to do, at the same time which would oblige us to accept iran as an equal partner in regional issues, i think would be the best solution. and by the way, i know that president obama for the second time recently again indicated his desire to engage with iran. and i hope this would be third and i hope this would be followed up, at least a meet that we had in new york with the three plus three group indicates there is a very strong desire while using the pressure on iran but also a desire to engage iran and we will do this we will try to explain to iranians that this is first of all in t
and then convinced iran wants it. and if we all are reasonable and if we all recognize that there are security interests of iran just like there are security interests of other countries in the region, if we recognize that iran must cooperate, we fully remove any reasonable doubt, any doubt at all regarding its nuclear program. and if we engage iran on these grounds, if we develop a package which would oblige iran to do what we all wanted to do, at the same time which would oblige us to accept...
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anything in iran is negative according to the united states only thing that iran has yet to be accused of by the united states is global warming and perhaps that will come up later on but i think what is more important is anything to do with iran taking hostages with iran killing marines in lebanon with marines attacking military views and why do you. think you are you know i think you actually are a war actor you know you're very kind of the bad and that's why they have a problem with you know i think i think you i think you have a problem with your history classes in the united states iranian american relations didn't begin with the embassy takeover they began with the united states overthrowing the national government in iran through a coup d'etat installing a puppet shar and then draining the country's resources for decades. well you can watch crosstalk in just over an hour here on r.t. and i will be on to our next story of long standing pledges to eradicate world poverty and hunger are sharp focus of the u.n. summit in new york also on the sidelines of the meeting middle east peac
anything in iran is negative according to the united states only thing that iran has yet to be accused of by the united states is global warming and perhaps that will come up later on but i think what is more important is anything to do with iran taking hostages with iran killing marines in lebanon with marines attacking military views and why do you. think you are you know i think you actually are a war actor you know you're very kind of the bad and that's why they have a problem with you know...
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iran has not. been severely ron has not supported hamas scuse me i mean i didn't introduce her to arista terrorizing around the world i think you should allow me to say wait a minute and you can read i'm really going to. go read lame is false go ahead professor marandi has an ally is defending its own country against the country a regime is designed this apartheid regime that has occupied this country and still continues to occupy parts of lebanon israel today on a daily basis. its airplanes go over lebanese airspace and the israelis can constantly provoke the people of lebanon hezbollah has succeeded in expelled you can see that these are people in this drama still people territory. no the iranian support groups that helped to liberate their own country which is called lebanon and beyond that the iranians were the victims of a war that the americans and the europeans were behind it they supported saddam hussein they gave him weapons of mass destruction i myself was a victim of two chemical attacks
iran has not. been severely ron has not supported hamas scuse me i mean i didn't introduce her to arista terrorizing around the world i think you should allow me to say wait a minute and you can read i'm really going to. go read lame is false go ahead professor marandi has an ally is defending its own country against the country a regime is designed this apartheid regime that has occupied this country and still continues to occupy parts of lebanon israel today on a daily basis. its airplanes go...
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it's the same with iran. the consequences of confronting iran are, you know, i don't like to think about them. but we have to think about them. because the consequences are of not con friday nighting them and leaving them with nuclear weapons capability is also a problem. we live in a era of low predictability and tough decision-making. >> warner: tony blair, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> brown: and now we move from the perspective of a world leader to that of a businessman who is struggling to make peace on a smaller scale. special correspondent fred de sam lazaro reports from israel.- eporter: once upon a time this factory in central israel was a small kitchen selling a few jars of sun-dried tomato spread to delis in israel. then in 1992, founder benish got a visit from daniel, a recent law graduate and tomato spread fan. >> three people were working me and another two workers, and he came with a jar that he bought in a supermarket. he said this is yours? i said, yeah. he said i like this the most. i
it's the same with iran. the consequences of confronting iran are, you know, i don't like to think about them. but we have to think about them. because the consequences are of not con friday nighting them and leaving them with nuclear weapons capability is also a problem. we live in a era of low predictability and tough decision-making. >> warner: tony blair, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> brown: and now we move from the perspective of a world leader to that of a...
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iran has those. missile or anti air. three hundred almost and secondly russia has made it very clear that indispensable of reposts mong with the united states and indispensable of this decision to. purchase nevertheless. overall partnership affiliations with. russia to get decisions to start or. plant quite recently showing that corporative relations with iran persistent will develop food that russia does not limit in any way political dialogue with iran and the meetings and you know summits go on and so on and so forth russia does not subscribe to the united states to create an illusion of your own an isolation from the international system so on and so forth so the approach is really balanced and . the real distribution of. all right thank you very much for your insight that was a dimitri simes from the think tank the council on foreign and defense policy in russia. and now some of the finest scientific minds are in moscow to make sure a different kind of cold war doesn't break out they are working
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will be a serious blow to iran's defense capability. iran is startler dependent on a contract on its contract with most call if it wants to provide security for its airspace and there is no other way to get similar missiles but to purchase them from russia russian as three hundred complex it's not only missiles the launch pads it also read our facilities and so on is the state of the art equipment and international experts all agreed was there i guess it will for the relations with current us with the judge regime in iran but i think the iranian authorities have to understand the message the message from international community here they have to change something in the attitude towards the outer world and they have to think twice before going on with their nuclear program this is r.t. from moscow coming up just ahead of the program the summer lovers and summer fighters but. others are simply fighting from them find out how vigilante groups are saving young couples from persecution. poverty and hunger it sharp focus of the u.n. summit in
will be a serious blow to iran's defense capability. iran is startler dependent on a contract on its contract with most call if it wants to provide security for its airspace and there is no other way to get similar missiles but to purchase them from russia russian as three hundred complex it's not only missiles the launch pads it also read our facilities and so on is the state of the art equipment and international experts all agreed was there i guess it will for the relations with current us...
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but as discussion of iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a u.n. meeting in new york the media blitz against it has been launched and then has been the main target of the pricey ad campaign the president going to judge himself to his report no it has been to investigate what you think of the build up. just. call it a september tradition the president of iran visits that the apple. angry protesters school on his arrival are going to the state is this. is the biggest area. and. people being hurt there wasn't a blizzard you don't get people to the hospital it is the dr no right now to bill you need don't show it in there is that it. or you read there would be dos mahmoud ahmadinejad may be the most hated guest at the hilton. but the world leader americans love to vilify is also the most visible face in manhattan courtesy of this organization united against nuclear iran a number of people don't understand the extent to which you can agree just violator of human rights his they don't understand seriously the dangers of a nuclear armed iran and the purpo
but as discussion of iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a u.n. meeting in new york the media blitz against it has been launched and then has been the main target of the pricey ad campaign the president going to judge himself to his report no it has been to investigate what you think of the build up. just. call it a september tradition the president of iran visits that the apple. angry protesters school on his arrival are going to the state is this. is the biggest area. and. people being...
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and is discussion of iran's nuclear program takes the floor to u.n. meeting in new york the media blitz against it has been launched and i have been the main target of the pricey campaign is president i'm going to charge him so well to these were important. i don't know just. call it a september tradition the president of iran visits but the apple. angry protesters school on his arrival i am going to do so because this. is the biggest area. and there are people being hurt there doesn't represent the iranian people it must be honest to drive know right now to bill you need on show didn't is that it. or you'll be there mahmoud ahmadinejad may be the most hated guest at the hilton. but the world leader americans love to vilify is also the most visible face in manhattan courtesy of this organization united against nuclear iran a number of people don't understand the extent to which an egregious violator of human rights here is they don't understand seriously the dangers of a nuclear armed iran and the purpose of this ad campaign is to raise awareness of t
and is discussion of iran's nuclear program takes the floor to u.n. meeting in new york the media blitz against it has been launched and i have been the main target of the pricey campaign is president i'm going to charge him so well to these were important. i don't know just. call it a september tradition the president of iran visits but the apple. angry protesters school on his arrival i am going to do so because this. is the biggest area. and there are people being hurt there doesn't...
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states tackles iran's uranium facilities other things that the mahmoud ahmadinejad has said that iran is open for dialogue and then he was saying that this format of five plus one is not exactly the best way for iran to cooperate so really no details worked out yet but at today's meeting the five plus one try to come up with the next steps that they would take if iran sits down for negotiations. well as discussion over iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a u.n. meeting in new york a media blitz against it has been launched in manhattan now the main target of the costly ad campaign is president obama did the job himself artie's muddy the portnoy has more. to do just. call it a september tradition the president of iran visits the big apple. angry protesters school on his arrival i am going to say please this. is the biggest area . and there are people being hurt there wasn't a blizzard around people you must be honest it drives know right now a good bill you need don't show it didn't is that it. or you'll be there more to the oas mahmoud ahmadinejad may be the most hated guest at
states tackles iran's uranium facilities other things that the mahmoud ahmadinejad has said that iran is open for dialogue and then he was saying that this format of five plus one is not exactly the best way for iran to cooperate so really no details worked out yet but at today's meeting the five plus one try to come up with the next steps that they would take if iran sits down for negotiations. well as discussion over iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a u.n. meeting in new york a media...
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anything in iran is negative according to the united states only thing that iran has yet to be accused of by the united states is global warming and perhaps that will come up later on but i think what is more important is anything to do with iran taking hostages with iran killing marines in lebanon with marines attacking military views and how do you. think you're going to. hear a war out. of the bed and that's why they have a problem with the no i think i think i think you have a problem with your history classes in the united states iranian american relations didn't begin with the embassy takeover they began with the united states overthrowing the national government in iran through a coup to installing a puppet shar and then draining the country's resources for decades. across talk on r.t. in just over an hour's time. the u.s. has vowed to expand cooperation with russia on missile defense global security and conventional limits in europe these were discussed at the russian nato council on the sidelines of the u.n. summit in new york he's honest in situ and it brings us more the majo
anything in iran is negative according to the united states only thing that iran has yet to be accused of by the united states is global warming and perhaps that will come up later on but i think what is more important is anything to do with iran taking hostages with iran killing marines in lebanon with marines attacking military views and how do you. think you're going to. hear a war out. of the bed and that's why they have a problem with the no i think i think i think you have a problem with...
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sanctions on iran. talks are gripping the big apple as world leaders brainstorm how to eradicate global poverty and ensure peace in the middle east. you're watching r t coming to you live from the russian capital balkans in the program and also our top story the arctic's on tap natural wealth is a source of great temptation for the countries surrounding the icecap billions of barrels of oil lie beneath the sea and the arctic nations are keen to secure their sure now some of the finest scientific minds of gathered in moscow to make sure a different kind of cold war doesn't break out of a has more. all of the countries that have an interest in the stake in the arctic namely russia the united states canada and two scandinavian states all of them have a very big interest and of course all want a bigger piece of the pie that is the untapped seabed full of natural resources oil gas various minerals so the arctic is a very tempting piece but so far all of the sides that have a stake and have a potential claim
sanctions on iran. talks are gripping the big apple as world leaders brainstorm how to eradicate global poverty and ensure peace in the middle east. you're watching r t coming to you live from the russian capital balkans in the program and also our top story the arctic's on tap natural wealth is a source of great temptation for the countries surrounding the icecap billions of barrels of oil lie beneath the sea and the arctic nations are keen to secure their sure now some of the finest...
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now to two years ago at the pentagon has has been reportedly developing plans of attacking iran how realistic is that what i think everyone goes in option quantity from the lowest the highest level you know that's that's natural because iran is not a normal country seeking to acquire nuclear weapons and iran is a country whose president of the ready said it wants to wipe one of its neighbors off the mark so you can't talk about iran in terms of just a country developing a nuclear deterrence it's a danger to its neighbors and indeed as it develops long range missiles to a much wider and wider area and frankly when i go to moscow i find people more school even more concerned than the americans are about a nuclear iran because iran and terrified of the missile sites they're much closer to the russian border than the united to the american by. so the rhetoric might be different but we have all got a common interest in helping the people of iran to escape the states for dictatorship to stop and to stop iran being a menace in the most volatile region of the world now here we're analyzing
now to two years ago at the pentagon has has been reportedly developing plans of attacking iran how realistic is that what i think everyone goes in option quantity from the lowest the highest level you know that's that's natural because iran is not a normal country seeking to acquire nuclear weapons and iran is a country whose president of the ready said it wants to wipe one of its neighbors off the mark so you can't talk about iran in terms of just a country developing a nuclear deterrence...