like ladybird johnson which is who she is sort of named after. >> jimmy: is she really? why? >> because we were listening to npr, i'm smart, and right after my husband and i got married and ladybird johnson had just passed away and there was sort of an amazing beautiful story about her and her beautification projects and how she was just sort of this incredible american woman and my husband turned to me and said, that's such a great nickname, lady bird. call a kid birdie. that's so cool. and we kept it, like, in the back of our minds. when i was pregnant. p, he was really gunning for birdie. i had a whole thing -- >> jimmy: with a shotgun or -- >> no, but i had a whole thing about how since i grew up with the nickname it's really hard to name your child like that's a name and then call her birdie. every first day of school and your substitute teacher and you have to constantly -- which is what i had to do the whole life. so if we're going to call this kid birdie, it's not anything but birdie. >> jimmy: her legal name is birdie? >> her legal name is birdie lee silverstein, yea