strategy was to launch all of our weapons against all of the targets in the soviet union, china, poland, czechoslovakia, and romania. the administration said, we need a more refined strategy than that. from what i can tell, our policy on cyber war strategy is very similar to the curtis lemay strategy foreign strategic nuclear war. -- strategy for strategic nuclear war. we need a strategy. it needs to be discussed publicly the way they discussed strategic nuclear war. we need academic participation . we need to know the legal implications of cyber war. are they the same as the laws of our conflict? are there things that are off- limits? how can you be sure when you launch a cyber war that it will only hit the target? i talked a little while ago about stuxnet which seems to have been targeted on those centrifuges, but also caused a communications satellite to stop working. there are issues of collateral damage. finally, let me suggest that, when we think about cyber war, we need to think about cyber arms control. i know all of you who have done arms control will immediately say, there is a verification p