bowen, secretary of state, john chambers is the ceo of cisco, and nbc bay area's garvin thomas is on the ground floor with backstage details for us. >> reporter: jess and tom, one of the interesting thing about the debate is they asked the audience here to be in their seats by 5:30. an hour before the debate began. so what you have are some heavy hitters in california politics sitting around for an hour, waiting around with nothing to do but talk to each other. could be as entertaining as the debate. now as to what folks want to hear about, we have a gentleman here, director of the field hall. mark, we've heard a lot from these candidates about each other on tv. what does the voter want to hear now? >> well, they'd like to know how the state's going to get out of the budget mess that we're in. and neither candidate really has fully addressed that. they're dancing around the issue. it's a hard one to address because really it's really administering pain. whether you're going to make budget cuts or tax increases, not something voters really like to hear. so the candidates are avoiding