lost what was it about seventy years the european union has just lost it about fifty years. and i wouldn't be at all surprised to see the same pattern i think in twenty years time there may be something that's called a european union but i think it will look very different and be much less in influential than it is today and yet becoming a member of the euro is a is still something that countries aspire to estonia well become a member in january yes i think it's only is very unwise to do that. i could see a case for a baltic currency union i mean the one and a half million people that's very very small country to have its own independent currency although quite small countries like singapore and switzerland have independent currencies and redraw the world with them but there is a case there will be case for baltic union there is not a case for a stone in my view being in the same currency union with germany aren't in greece want to have a thank you very much my pleasure. imagine your life under the big cities. eco friendly. crystal clear water. soft energy. organic food. liv

the treasury writes a check to the european union every fortnight to the sum of a two hundred million pounds now that's not the whole picture because that is basically that's the gross contribution some of that money comes back as part the overall net deal over which the treasury has a pair of limited say so that's not necessarily well spent however. if you factor in the direct and indirect costs associated with the you membership the overall bill for business and for the country could be as high as two hundred billion pounds a year the problem is that nobody knows this because there has not been a cost benefit analysis if you say you membership so there's a huge question mark there which taxpayers alliance and other organizations are campaigning to get the answer to where does that money get well a lot of it doesn't come back into the into the u.k. because the u.k. is after germany the second largest contributor to the the budget certainly in net terms and along with a small number of northern european countries it's one of the one of the few which are overall net contributors a coun

would be in any country would be were we to leave the european union which is stop breaking down the that the benefits that we could be spending the money on other than into what's basically a financial sinkhole from the u.k. taxpayers viewpoint it's just search is astonishing waste of money isn't it chair less in this sort of global economy to talk about british money for british people well not really because the british taxpayer of course is funding taxes and would naturally expect that the money to be spent on things which are of benefit to themselves i mean it's fundamentally old you know that that money and you talk about a global economy but of course the money isn't going to. say. north america it's a it's a european system it's not a global system so we're short of having a global. economy with the european union if that's what you really like a lot of politicians say that it's just not realistic to mean the e.u. wholesale but you think differently we already have with respect to the european union about ten different levels of association with the european union you have co

well the european union has gone too far european union laws take supremacies over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically we overburdened with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solved within our own laws their own politicians and westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see your nation states that can work and cooperate together and not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected. port legislation on the citizens of the u. . thank you very much indeed for your analysis and your viewpoint on that thank you that's director of think tank the bruges group joining us live there in london we appreciate your time. moscow's new mayor has been sworn in with the inauguration ceremony the city's lawmakers voted to approve the appointment of an account of the chosen by prison inventive the capital's new man in charge has been descr

union it's not like it would be the collapse of the european union quite to the contrary if we allow those. countries to set their own economic policy again and to be sovereign in their currencies we would do europe a service we're doing europe a disservice by having this artificial currency imposed on it it can only lead to political tensions like in greece where the greek population now has to suffer taxpayers germany has to suffer the only ones that didn't suffer in greece were the banks because they were fully rescued so that's to me is a deal that is not quite equitable a european central bank or recently said that countries leaving the euro is a would essentially be committing political and economic suicide what's your no not at all i mean it's of course very difficult to leave because you would have to do a lot of administrative measures you would have to prepared very well and of course international capital may be shocked for a moment but in the end was the right supporting measures it would need some preparation it would need careful planning it would need careful execution

economy with the european union if that's what you really like a lot of politicians say that it's just not realistic to me the e.u. wholesale but you think differently we already have with respect to the european union about ten different levels of association with the european union you have countries which are full members such as france you have countries which have got certain opt out such as the u.k. has opted out of the single currency you have countries which are part of the depending on the. norway you have countries which have slightly less of a kind of agreement because after countries. but have gone less less far than not such as switzerland you have countries which have got bilateral trading agreements such as canada and mexico which could be a wide range of things and are very similar in style to the e.c. had agreements accession agreement some years back without a lot of the that that the burdensome regulations and that and it provokes the attacks that when you go way down that is even a special form of association for countries like north korea now i'm not saying we shou

union you shouldn't be giving this money until the european union has gone too far european union laws take supremacies over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union and we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically we're overburdened with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solved when our own laws own politicians of westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see are you nation states that can work and cooperate together and not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected can force legislation on the citizens of the year you. your rig r.t.m. coming your way in a few minutes oil and trouble find out why they get a fuel smuggling more than iraq is endangering the lives of thousands of ordinary people plop. you nationality russian we'll look at russia's biggest q. and a session that over five years that follows census takers as far as the international space station. russ

to me which is our exports to the european union but actually cover one hundred percent of the u.k. economy eighty percent of it is internal ten percent is to the rest of the world so one hundred percent of the economy is paying the price of ten percent of what it's meant to regulate so that's one perspective the second thing is if you just look at the not the the cost of the regulations but the simple physical cost and the membership fee that is the equivalent of forming a chain along appear and dumping a block of gold off the end of it every one hundred seconds. it's a gold ingots every hundred seconds just cast into the watery depths and in terms of schools and hospitals which is something the u.k. desperately needs to upgrade what about that now it's about a new hospital every three days i think it pays for the world family in two days i think it's something like every five days is the equipment to repairing every single cathedral in england and when we were doing the research for our book ten years on which it looks hypothetically at where the u.k. would be in any country we wo

while european countries are fighting to slash their budgets the european union itself is often more cash that's running billing larger states which resent paying for the problems of smaller nations they're pushing for strict new penalties including the loss of voter rights for countries which break the budget rules about lisbon treaty amendments is set to dominate a meeting of heads in brussels and very soon very soon will come back to our top story with more details on that. a pakistani born american has been arrested for carrying around surveillance on the washington d.c. metro was part of a suspected terror plot for two med is accused of providing support to people he believed were al qaeda members but who were actually f.b.i. agents and u.s. counterterrorism officials said there's no indication ahmed was ever in touch with real militants but still the incident has helped to stoke fears of so-called homegrown terrorism in the u.s. and does artie's marine airport found out critics say the f.b.i. may not be fighting terrorism so much use and trapping vulnerable humans. may two thou

economy with the european union if that's what you really like a lot of politicians say that it's just not realistic to mean the e.u. wholesale but you think differently we already have with respect to the european union about ten different levels of association with the european union you have countries which are full members such as france you have countries which have got certain dr such as the u.k. which is opted out of the single currency you have countries which are part of the you can economic area such as norway you have countries which have got bilateral trading agreements such as canada and mexico there's even a special form of association for. countries like north korea now i'm not saying we should have a form of association with the year that pyongyang has but we're simply saying if you have ten different ways of of trading and allying in a series cheating with with the source and you have to do opinion there's a mechanism in there somewhere which is appropriate for any country and it doesn't have to be for membership we live in a world they don't we which is essentially do

union and european politicians don't appreciate that. and i would say that really there's a lot of emotions obviously between the personalities in russia and in georgia but i don't really feel that that has overlapped too much to the european union i also feel that they're currently. this government is also different than the previous one and that the kind of kind of very strong support that he received in washington under the bush administration has also shifted now. do you think andrei that the reason for that simply just said is that is that the new book will project is really buried by the europeans. by one thing so i don't think so i mean i see more in the book of the road political issues on the economic levers of course for europe as for their budget and also be diversifying of the local all of grassroots are is very important of course for this is the economical party and the military i mean people are politic part of that is of course europe doesn't want to depend on we want to europe or mostly or more only on russia or mostly o

union have caused the european union toet into trouble with monetary issues. t turkey in this global crisis is the only country thatidn't intervene in the banking system. when welookt t government anbudget deficit, they' already abe t criteria of the european union. so as saidore, turkey among the 27 member states of the european union is at a better position. >> rose: weonclude this eveninwith michaeandelbaum, a profrsoat joh hkins university who wrien a n book about america called "the frugal superpower." >> sooner or later there is going to be a consensus that we've got to deal with this debt because we won't be ae to borrow our way out of it and kick the can down the road. and when that happens, i believe everything in politics will change including foreign policy. >> rose: the actress who plays lisbeth, turkey's economic goals and nversation about amica and its enomic issues when we continue. maybe u want school kids to have more expore to the arts. maybe you want to provide meals for the needy. or maybe you want to help when the unexpecd happens. whateve

union we just shouldn't be giving this money at all what the european union has gone too far european union laws take supremacies over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union and we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically overburdened with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solved in our own laws their own politicians but westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see a europe of nation states that can work and cooperate together but not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected can force legislation on the citizens of the u. . and that was robert all the director of the think tank the bridge group talking to be a little earlier from london while some more news coming in for you here on r t in italy three policemen were injured in the protests as opposing the dumping of rubbish from naples close to their turn security forces were trying to break a blockade by lo

union we just shouldn't be giving this money at all while the european union has gone too far european union laws take suprema see over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union and we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically we overburden with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solving our own laws our own politicians but westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see a europe of nation states that can work and cooperate together but not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected can force legislation on the citizens of the e.u. . and just to remind you got plenty moon stories at our website home so let's have a want to catch your eye on a lot. of. the traffic the pollutions find out what went wrong advice in your calls what exactly people years ago in our daily refinery interesting learn from. the past our correspondent brings us their account from a russian all ti

union we just shouldn't be giving this money at all with the european union has gone too far european union laws take supremacies over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union and we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically we overburdened with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solving our own laws our own politicians but westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see a youth of nation states that can work and cooperate together but not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected can force legislation on the citizens of the e.u. . thoughts there from robert from the british camp. there is they saw moscow's new boss sergei sabean and sworn in president medvedev pick a former governor of one of russia's oil which regions from a short list for his candidacy was later approved by city lawmakers are to his alice hebert reports on the mayor's first day in office. surroga

in response to european union is helping to train troops to counter the militants. we have a report from a training ground in you've done that. >> an irish soldier with an unusual mission, training recruits from somalia. close to 1000 soldiers are being put through their paces at this remote military the european union is funding the training in an effort to help stabilize war-torn somalia. young conscripts would often have had little experience of war. these ones have known nothing but conflict and some of them have the scars to prove it. >> our first day, we ask them if they of injuries. some of them to have entry wounds and exit wounds on their person. so, yes, they have plenty of experience in war fighting situations. >> on the streets of the capital, a fight for power that is relentless. the militia wants to overthrow the government. linked to al qaeda, they are attracting the hottest -- jihadists from around the world. they fear it is only a matter of time before a terrorist attack is carried out in britain. >> somalia has become a safe haven for terrorists. y

union we just shouldn't be giving this money at all while the european union has gone too far european union laws take suprema see over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union and we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically we overburdened with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solved in our own laws our own politicians but westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see a europe of nation states that can work and cooperate together but not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected force legislation on the citizens of the u. . well still to come on the program the latest from the front line of the global currency war financial analyst max kaiser and stacey herbut discuss whether the u.s. will be missed by the world if it becomes the first casualty of this financial conflict where you can find out more about that in the cause report in the next hour. glass has got

the european union in nato. they have influence and they have their own opinions and russia is not a total indifference to their positions i think that's a danger and should also take account of the russian stance it's an open secret that the arrangements we are trying to reach are related to other organizations including nato and the european union at the school do you think that the document . mean we have a bombshell effect or is it just routine politics. the russian president is not the only person who thinks about how to build relations inside the european union inside of the greater europe so to speak from the point of view of restoring imbalance of interests there are other leaders who are thinking about that everybody knows about. the eighty as nicolas sarkozy was borat a so-called concept of security from russian colleagues with regards to the creation of the common european perimeter of security in the various levels of security within a vast european space and that is why in this respect all president

now russia's relations with the european union and nato come under scrutiny next in our interview. hi mr coffee it's good to have you with us today over. the image of modern russia evokes fear in many europeans what does all the prejudice come from. this but with indeed i sometimes notice that russia in the eyes of europeans is a country that in essence continues the tradition settled by the soviet union or something like that but i don't think this approach is entirely correct russia is a completely new country it has a new foreign policy it has gone through substantial reform but there is no longer any difference in ideology between russia and the rest of the world the reason for all this prejudice as i see it is the fact that we still bear the legacy of the cold war we can't get rid of it. my generation grew up in a time when it was absolutely obvious that the world is split into there was the world of the warsaw pact and the nato world or a western world in an eastern world for this dog was still lives on in the mind of some people especially in the west it's very difficult to

union we just shouldn't be giving this money at all with the european union has gone too far european union laws take suprema see over british law over the laws of every member state within the european union and we've worked out that it causes a lot of damage economically we overburdened with regulation as well as handing too much money to brussels really british law in britain should be solving our own laws their own politicians but westminster should have precedence over those in brussels that's what we want to see we want to see a europe of nation states that can work and cooperate together but not be governed by the institutions of the european union based in brussels which no one has ever elected can force legislation on the citizens of the u. . and a few minutes report from one of the world's fastest developing countries but which is also among the worst for sex trafficking in india where hundreds of thousands of desperately poor girls are given hopes of a better life but ended up as sex slaves and. the makers of the movie made the world laugh at us. world. because exxon comedy

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apart the european union is to collapse. the russians have made friends who would be successors. but in fact we are really working with various formats so i will give you an example stay in moscow for just a few decent now and then i'll have to return to brussels. highlevel expert conference to be held in a totally different form that this time it will be russia poland and germany so we are trying to build triangles. tents because this is what consultations are all of . us when you have twenty eight or twenty nine states in one form and like the nato council each step. given a few minutes at the most to express his point of view. four minutes are used to form something different so narrow formats is where the actual work is done and they help finalize agreements that have been reached. standing behind. russia and europe which is something that you don't deny that the new york times for example writes the name reason is desire to distance russia from china on the contrary the british newspaper the times says that it's an attempt to tear off europe from america writes british histo