it was also mr. barrios making sure they're in physical condition and yes, of course, keeping the miners in good mental health. it's been one of the main focuses of the rescue teams on the surface over the last two and some months, playing a vital role. >> it's good to, i think dennis o'dell is standing by with the united mine workers of america. as we watch the second rescuer, how difficult is this for each rescuer? >> going underground making a trip -- >> i'm sorry, we have your audio now. go ahead. >> okay. there's some risk involved. i mean, these guys are trained professionals in what they do, and so, therefore, you know, they're going to take extra safety precautions in their approach, but there's always, like we talked about before, a risk. i was sitting here watch this whole thing unfold, and i'm thinking about when you and i first met at sago, and then we went through that event and we saw crandal canyon and upper big branch and now we're watching this unfold. you know, hopefully operators a