groves, good to have you with us. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> woodruff: so we've grown as a people but not as fast as in previous decades. >> absolutely. this is the first decade that we've gone over the 300 mark. it's a notable event for that. your mention of the 9.7% increase is also a notable thing. but that's the result of a long-run trend. of gradually slowing the growth of the population. this is very common in developed societies around the world. most of the developed world is slowing its rate of growth. this has to do with changes in fertility experiences in the population, and also even though all of these countries are experiencing immigration that isn't the... the net effect the slowing of the growth. >> woodruff: but immigration is a part of the picture. >> immigration is a part of our picture as in most developed societies. over the last ten years a rough estimate would be about 60% of the growth we experience was from the natural increase of the then resident population. about 40% from immigration. >> woodruff:

groves. dr. groves will have a presentation going to the numbers being released today. following that, secretary locke and dr. blank will return to their duties at the commerce department and we'll open it up to wait q &a session. we will alternate between questions in the room and questions on the telephone and be accepting some questions via twitter. before we get started here, i just want to introduce a short video that captures why we are here and why this is an historic moment and what happened in the past year to get to this point. >> the census is as old as the republic itself. we can watch the united states transform. we had a relatively sparse population scattered on the atlantic seaboard and we can watch a transform into this continental superpower that today is able to project so much power globally. >> and a decade, we are called upon to stand up and be counted. once a decade, the census bureau rises to that challenge. of everyevery day year the needs of your community are met. th

on the eve of world aid day people are gathering at the national aids memorial grove at golden state park to mark the milestone of the fight against the disease. heather holmes is there with this story, heather. >> reporter: julie, for the first time tonight the grove here is ill rule nailed. there are blowing, white, green and purple. it was a celebration of a 20th anniversary of the ryan white care act. landmark legislation that changed the fight against aids. diagnosed at 13, her son ryan waged a courageous fight against aids during the height of it discrimination. >> wasn't just about ryan, there's so many families that have been through this aids epidemic that they felt the same suffering and pain that i went through. >> reporter: 25 years after her son died at the age of 18, 20 years after the decide started to take aim. much progress has been made. there's been a downward trend in new hiv infections. but there is still no cure. >> one of my sons is -- he's one of my coldest friends he died five years ago. >> from friends to children. the report showed 1.8 million aids related

on the eve of world aid day people are gathering at the national aids memorial grove at golden state park to mark the milestone of the fight against the disease. heather holmes is there with this story, heather. >> reporter: julie, for the first time tonight the grove here is ill rule nailed. there are blowing, white, green and purple. it was a celebration of a 20th anniversary of the ryan white care act. landmark legislation that changed the fight against aids. diagnosed at 13, her son ryan waged a courageous fight against aids during the height of it discrimination. >> wasn't just about ryan, there's so many families that have been through this aids epidemic that they felt the same suffering and pain that i went through. >> reporter: 25 years after her son died at the age of 18, 20 years after the decide started to take aim. much progress has been made. there's been a downward trend in new hiv infections. but there is still no cure. >> one of my sons is -- he's one of my coldest friends he died five years ago. >> from friends to children. the report showed 1.8 million aids related

it has a lot of hills, there's a lot of dense groves. once you get towards the center of the park you really lose your orientation. you are very much in a remote area. there are a lot of trees that shield your view from the urban setting. you would simply see different groves that gives you a sense of freedom, of being outdoors, not being burdened by the worries of city life. john mclaren had said that golden gate park was too far away. he proposed that we have a park in the south end of the city. the campaign slogan was, people need this open space. one of the things that had to open is there were a lot of people who did a homestead here, about 25 different families. their property had to be bought up. so it took from 1928 to 1957 to buy up all the parcels of land that ended up in this 317 acres. the park, as a general rule, is heavily used in the mornings and the evenings. one of the favorite places is up by the upper reservoir because dogs get to go swim. it's extremely popular. many fights in the city, as you know, about dogs in park

thanks to the stern grove association they renovated the concert meadow. it used to be a rolling grafsy area. put in a new stage and stage building. they put in terraces. we get from 8,000 to 12,000 people. and the meadow next to the concert meadow is full of people even though they can't see the music they hear it. i walked into the meadow several times and they don't even care. we do have literally events going on day and night. the concert association has kids days during the week. the performers come out for hundred 200 kids. now, the truckadero truck house gets rented out for weddings and retirement. the croquet clubs and horse shoes. 2 play grounds, tennis courts. we have from 25 to a hundred dogs here. it's like bisons going across the mid west. there are so many dogs they are covering the ground cht it's a get together. all the dog walkers know each other. if you go to pine lake day camp now, you will see 50 kids there. the r directors are wonder. >> the pine lake is natural. they take of the area around the lake. they plant natives that are drough

memorial grove. the grove located in golden gate park was illuminated for first time to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the ryan white care act. boulder will be unveiled today, honoring the late ryan white and his mother. it also recognizes the late senator kennedy who was the lead sonser -- lead sponsor. >>> these people are pedaling on bikes and their goal to raise $ donations. one rider asked why she's doing it. >> i have friends and friends' families who are directly a ffected by this. i have friends who can't get the medication they need. they have to travel a long way. >>> they are part of a team that will participate in the a.i.d.s. life cycle ride from san francisco to los angeles next june. they hope to hit today's goal by nightfall but they plan to ride until midnight. bay area cities are showing their support for world a.i.d.s. day. oakland city hall will be illuminated to raise awareness about a.i.d.s. and h.i.v. sanfrancisco city hall will also turn red tonight to commemorate world a.i

day at the grove at golden gate park. >> the grove was -- obviously, it was created during a time when a community was devastated and a great place of darkness, destroyed conspiracy and d isillusionment. >> reporter: the 19-year-old grove is an earthy memorial for the men and women who died in the early outbreak of the a.i.d.s. epidemic. this man came today to remember lost friends. >> of course today is better. i'm alive and benefiting from the therapies. but there is a they men douse loss that we have to honor. >> reporter: -- they men douse loss that we have to honor. >> reporter: public health officials say there are up to 1,000 new h.i.v. cases in san francisco county each year. >> the ma -- the majority of our infections are among gay men. when we look at the population of the men in san francisco, about 23% are infected. >> reporter: they say the a.i.d.s. day commemoration prompted more people to come in for a test. >> oh, yeah. it's been pretty busy all day, sings i got here. >> there's much more awareness now. i think kids in school. my son being in gh school, kids are much mo

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i in the community manager of the grove festival. as one of the largest parks in your district, you have always been a supporter of the festival and a supporter of stern grove. we have been the victim to countless acts of graffiti, vandalism and property damage. it is difficult to know when these acts occur, but we can only assume at night. about two years ago, that before an opening concert, vandals broke into one of our buildings and damaged the door and stole five radius. that same year, a dressing room was broken into and suffered $5,000 worth of damages. each season with countless numbers of tax of vandalism. all of these acts result in financial losses, not only for the park department, but also for the festival, at a time when neither can afford additional cost. we fully enforced enhance patrols not only in golden gate park, but in all the parks in the system. thank you for your time. supervisor chu: thank you. next speaker please. >> supervisors, my name is grant. i have served the city and county of santa cisco as the direct

right now we are at cisco grove, which is about 5500 feet. so far, not a lot of snow, but we are getting a lot of slush. take a look at the road conditions, just a sloppy, slushy stuff is what we're seeing right now. chain controls are not in effect here at cisco grove, but we'll keep heading up the mountain. >> just a few miles up the road, conditions changed rather quickly. here at i-80 about 6500 feet, the snow is coming down a little bit harder, it's not that slushy stuff, it's those soft flakes. take a look over my shoulder, can you see a lot of people chaining up and for good reason. if you look over here, right past me, you'll see chain controls are in effect. so far, on i-80, the roads are clear and it's smooth sailing for traffic. >> issues with the chains? how is it out here? >> i just haven't put these ties on before, so -- >> learn as you go? >> yeah. john says he was expecting the snow this weekend but he and plenty of others still want to make a great ski weekend out of it. and at sugar bowl, there were plenty of snowboarders an

metrorail will honor the marc tickets for the shady grove station if you get over there. brunswick 870 is 24 minutes late and 890 now 23 minutes behind schedule. joe. >> thank you, jerry. well, an especially cold night for some people who were forced out of their apartments overnight. fire crews were called to this building in the 400 block of muddy branch road for an electrical problem. when they arrived they realized it was caused by a water leak in the basement. firefighters cdemned the building after determining it was unsafe. ride-on buses were brought in to keep the people warm until they could find a place to stay. still no word whether residents will be lowed back into their apartments. >>> a man is behind bars accused of threatening to blow uphe metro system. he discussed it with friends on facebook. tracee wilkins joins us live from arlington with more on this story. tracee, good morning >> reporter: eun, good morning. th alleged conversation on facebook is what drew the fbi's attention to this after the friend reported it. she was saying the conversation became

plunging temperatures as far down as florida where the citrus groves are serving frozen orange juice. i'm katie couric. also tonight, the president calls him a true giant of american foreign policy. remembering the man who helped bring peace to bosnia, veteran diplomat richard holbrooke. with u.s. policy in afghanistan undergoing a major review, we'll look at the toll the war is taking on the americans fighting it. and from boom to bust, why so many baby boomer marriages end in divorce. captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news world headquarters in new york, this is the "cbs evening news" with katie couric. >> couric: good evening, everyone. for much of the country it's a very good night to be inside. in the north, lake-effect snow is burying areas around the great lakes and arctic air from canada is bringing uncommon cold all the way down to the deep south. a look at the low temperatures, records in some places, tells only part of the story. mark strassmann is in the heart of florida's citrus-growing country and, mark, farmers there are understandably worried tonight. >> reporter: t

just a week ago, cold weather ruined some trees on his 350-acre grove. florida produces $9 billion in citrus every year, and one bitterly cold night could potentially snuff out hundreds of millions of dollars in crops statewide. >> this fruit's in jeopardy tonight, i know it is. >> reporter: back here live, the winds are whipping out here tonight. john arnold said that's a bad thing because it wipes out the heat in the groves. he said he'll be out here all night long checking on the trees and the fruit. live in clermont, lake county, ryan hughes, channel 9 eyewitness news. >> winter weather across the country is impacting central florida travelers tonight. >> since about 7:30 tonight, there have been about 25 flight delays either taking off or landing at orlando international airport. channel 9's mark moyle found out cold weather not only creates problems for travelers but also for workers at airports across central florida. those working on the planes can't wear gloves. >> reporter: they cannot wear gloves all the time because they have to use their fin

one of the early pioneers became mayor of pacific grove in 1931. dr. dooly -- platt did make five miles of score line off limits to fishing. >> that saying another turning point was a creation of the monterey bay aquarium. this is profit the nonprofit is housed with a mission of inspiring ocean conservation. >> no one had grown kelp in captivity. a lot of the folks in the aquarium business told us one, you can't do it z two, who wants to see brown sea weed, anyway? >> the success of the exhibits is giving rise to a generation of action. cindy walter is the daughter of a fisherman and a local restaurant owner trying to raise awareness about sustainable prablg tiss. that means her menu doesn't include items like sword fish, tuna and shark. >> 75% of the fish sold in the united states is sold under restaurants. and so that makes chef and owner of the restaurant, makes them the gate keeper to ocean health. >> today monterey bay found an economic and environmental balance arks louing nature and people to co-exist and thrive. >> nobody would be allowed to ta

for the second time in two weeks, an overnight freeze hit citrus groves, coating fruit with ice. florida's citrus industry is worth $9 billion, squeezing up 75% of the country's orange crop and 40% of the world's orange juice. analysts say it's too early right now to know exactly how much damage was done by mother nature's low temps. the weather is predicted to get warmer in the next few days, but growers say they're worried about future frosts, which could really damage their crops. >> tom: as erika mentioned, pump prices have jumped more than 10% since labor day. this week an opec oil minister said the world can handle $100- a-barrel oil. and our next guest says get ready for gasoline at $5 a gallon. john hofmeister is a former president of shell oil. he's the founder of citizens for affordable energy. >> he join us us tonight. john, welcome to nightly business report. >> thank you. >> you predict $5 a gallon by 2012. why so high? >> all the conditions which led to $5 gasoline in california in 2008 have returned. except they've returned under a different setted of circumstances

memorial grove. the grove located in golden gate park was illuminated for the first time last night to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the ryan white care act. ryan white was diagnosed with a.i.d.s. at 13 fought a courageous battle with a.i.d.s. discrimination in the late 1980s. ryan's mother spoke at the e vent. >> it isn't just about ryan. there are so many families that have been through this epidemic. they felt the same suffering and pain that i went through. >> during today's noontime on -- observance there will be a memorial for ryan white. >>> 7:16. now that the pentagon has released its report on the don't ask/don't tell policy, senate democrats want to hold a vote on repealing that policy this m onth. defense secretary robert gates, wants the senate to act before it adjourns this month. gates says there is an urgency to act because the courts could invalidate the policy without warning, leaving the military with no time to prepare for the change. >> i'm determined to see if the law is repe

host: last call for robert groves, from baltimore. caller: i have a question regarding redistricting as it relates to the 2010 census. look at the states where the population might have shifted. if you can answer this, why are the district's gerrymandered? could there be a case uses for the results of the senses to make the case that the district's need to be more square and true and truly represent the people? guest: this is truly out of my domain of authority. i do know that the data we are given can be analyzed by anyone. in some states, citizens commissions have been appointed for the redistricting process, in an attempt to address the issues you have raised. in other states, this is a straight political process, it would be subject to negotiations. the ability with cheap computers now to form geographical boundaries to achieve all sorts of desired ends is almost unlimited. this will be an interesting decade redistricting, but it is not part of our job. host: robert groves, director of the census bureau, how much longer will you b

host: last call for robert groves, from baltimore. caller: i have a question regarding redistricting as it relates to the 2010 census. look at the states where the population might have shifted. if you can answer this, why are the district's gerrymandered? could there be a case uses for the results of the senses to make the case that the district's need to be more square and true and truly represent the people? guest: this is truly out of my domain of authority. i do know that the data we are given can be analyzed by anyone. in some states, citizens commissions have been appointed for the redistricting process, in an attempt to address the issues you have raised. in other states, this is a straight political process, it would be subject to negotiations. the ability with cheap computers now to form geographical boundaries to achieve all sorts of desired ends is almost unlimited. this will be an interesting decade redistricting, but it is not part of our job. host: robert groves, director of the census bureau, how much longer will you b

host: last call for robert groves, from baltimore. caller: i have a question regarding redistricting as it relates to the 2010 census. look at the states where the population might have shifted. if you can answer this, why are the district's gerrymandered? could there be a case uses for the results of the senses to make the case that the district's need to be more square and true and truly represent the people? guest: this is truly out of my domain of authority. i do know that the data we are given can be analyzed by anyone. in some states, citizens commissions have been appointed for the redistricting process, in an attempt to address the issues you have raised. in other states, this is a straight political process, it would be subject to negotiations. the ability with cheap computers now to form geographical boundaries to achieve all sorts of desired ends is almost unlimited. this will be an interesting decade redistricting, but it is not part of our job. host: robert groves, director of the census bureau, how much longer will you b

i looked around shady grove where i saw flashing lights earlier. right now i don't see anything as far as disruptions. clearly the volume is beginning to peck up. heads-up along the way. word of a broken down vehicle reported to be in the right travel lane. ken ill worth, looking pretty good so far. picking up volume as you make your tri from maryland, northeast washington, lanes available there. outbound moving along nicely. metro, vre, no delays. marc, brunswick 870 is 20 minutes late. 890 is 8 minutes late. >> thank you, jerry. >>> 5:42. new technology that will let local people know when their streets are plowed. >>> a daring height at a casino. >>> next, a terrifying standoff caught on videotape. what police say drove a man to open f ♪ ♪ ten thousands of xmas cheer ♪ ♪ ten thousand watts glow brightlylear ♪ ♪ the colored lights will shine sincere, ho, ho, ho ♪ ♪ ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ♪ >>> 5:45 is your time now. here's a look at the top stories we're following this morning. i agents arrested a northern virginia man teatenin

skip that and go to 66, well, we will look at shady grove road. some snow cover but the roads have been treated and mdot is on stand by around town if they find any icy spots they will be out there. we will look at the area roadways at 5:25 once again. >>> our time is 5:19. >>> bad news for nationals fans. baseball's biggest free agent pitcher is returning to one of his old teams. >>> plus, we'll tell you what happened in a game that bret favre could not play in. that's coming up in sports. >>> time for the question of the day. 11 days until christmas and the question is about our favorite cia mass movies. >> according to a recent survey, the majority of your american neighbors selected in the number one christmas movie of all time. >>> it is coming down at a good clip. there's some slippery roads and temperatures will only get close to 30 degrees. peggy, andrea? >> thank you. >>> one day was not enough to keep bret favre's amazing streak alive. >> plus, a top maryland assistant is being courted for a head coaching job elsewhere. brett haber has t

. >> at hulk and grove, that sound the the automatic -- it helps people cross the street safely. >> now we have a successful pedestrian signal. >> i push the button, i get an audible message letting me know that i need to wait. when it is safe to cross, not only am i going to get an audible indicator, this button is going to vibrate. so it tells me it is safe. there is the driller sound and this trigger is vibrating. i am not relying on anything but the actual light change, the light cycle built into it. >> it brings san francisco from one of the major cities in the u.s. to what is going to be the lead city in the country. >> city working on all sorts of things. we are trying to be new and innovative and go beyond the ada says and make life more successful for people. >> disability rights movement, the city has the overall legal obligation to manage and maintain the accessibility and right of way. with regards to the curb ramps, bounded by a groove border, 12-inch wide border. for people with low vision to get the same information. the shape of the domes, flush transition between the bo

the grove that we're at right now is one of the northern most groves annual not a lot of groves like this in this area of florida. there are a few up north up of here. waiting to find out how they fared in all this. it might not be good. to answer your question, no. i don't recall this early there being a freeze and consecutive years of freezing. usually we go several years without a freeze here in florida at all here. we have two consecutive years and might be worse from here. this could be one of the worst years i have ever experienced here. >> steve barrett, we sure appreciate you reporting for us. keep us updated, steve, please, as you get more information. we'd love to talk to you again. >> we will. >> thanks, steve. >>> senate could see a final vote on the tax legislation today. then the house gets it and that could be a real fight. meanwhile, 2 million jobless americans holding their breath this week. waiting to see if congress reups the benefits for 13 months. more than 15 million people are out of work in this country. american morning's john roberts and kiran chetry spoke w

it started before 1:30 this morning on a building at oak grove road. that is claudine wong is to tell us why firefighters say this was set intentionally. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, pam. there is nothing left of this building. you can see behind me it's just wreckage at this point. we want to show you the pretty incredible pictures from the fire fight. this was a tough fight for firefighters. they got the call after 1:00 this morning. a security guard saw the flames shooting out. they got here and it took them 90 minutes to two hours to get the fire out firefighters say it was rocking and rolling and they couldn't get inside. they had to put water on it from the outside. it's a bit of a mystery when the fire started. this building has been vacant for 25 years. 25 years ago it started to house a restaurant. walnut creek police did tell the investigator that every so often they do have transjanuaries in and out of here. we do know there should have been no one inside. there should have been nothing that started this fire. what is happening t

they're roost at harden wood until february. >> they're very pretty, though. >> pacific grove. that's the next place to check on the monarch butterfly.

three below in minooka, sugar grove, kankakee and lowell, indiana. and it's 19 right now at o'hare headed for a 20-degree high today. only in the teens yesterday. 19 at midway airport. 21 at blue island and 15 in northwest suburban mchenry with the windchills right here plotted for you on this man. well, here are the lake snows. still blowing into areas of michigan and indiana. they shifted east where the epicenter of the snow is laporte county and stark county and berrian county still in the snow. areas little farther east are getting in on the snow right now. look at some of the totals here. in indiana it's 50 miles southeast of chicago's loop and about 12 miles east of valparaiso, indiana. they have 33 inches of snow out of this. westival, illinois, 29 inches. laporte 25, too. that's the city. one of the outlying communities had 24/7. new buffalo and berrian county michigan, 18, three. and kings bury indiana had 15.1 inches of snow and blue around and it's still doing that. but not with the gusto it did the last couple of days. this is our model f

over now to 270 on the southbound side where there is an accident reported near shady grove road. it's on the northbound side and be aware of that activity there as well. now out to the beltway. things look good overall around town. if you're planning to head over to northbound i-95 it's just a delay now from the prince william parkway up into lorton. you're okay up into springfield and no problems on 395 again but those icy conditions over at the 3rd street tunnel. if you're planning to head over on to the trains, marc is experiencing some delays on the brunswick line. lines 870 and 890 up to 30 minutes late this morning. otherwise metro and vre are on time. coming up in my next report, we'll look at beltway in maryland. >>> coming up on 6:03 at top of the hour. let's get a check on some of the stories happening today. >> the senate is expected to take a final vote on the tax cut deal. it's a compromised reach between the president and g.o.p. house democrats are considering changing the bill before they vote on it. >>> two months after a deadly beating outside the club dc9 is set

bob groves to give us that exciting news. [applause] >> thank you. i am proud on behalf of all my colleagues at the census bureau to report to the american public the 2010 census national and state population council and the apportionment results for the u.s. house of representatives. as you have heard, this is the 23rd time this country has done this. at that time, we were just a nation of 3.9 million people in 1790. this is the time when all of us come together to count ourselves and make possible critical steps in a democracy. we begin this release with the revelation of the national population count, the official count of the u.s. as of april 1, 2010. the population on that date is the cumulative effect of generations of americans are growing and moving throughout the country. this first graphic tracks the growth of the 50 states, even reflecting the populations of territories that later became states. 100 years ago, in 1910, there were 92 million people in this country. by 1970, the population had more than doubled. 10 years ago, the resident po

there is no more meaning here than the crested moon holds towards a dying grove of date trees. i am for the arabic, for the transcription of the arabic, zato dates over fire-baked bread. the twin rivers have already called for us a history. our poets have already explained to us the desert. by what right have you come? who have you have seen the rustic crane in the tree, no chimes but for its delicate wide beak, ushers an intemperate reprieve? 33 beads on a string, why pretend to know beyond the presence of click. thank you. please welcome gale sher >> the first one is why did she care? why did she care, she wondered, laying aside the book. a dim light could be seen possibly from a cabin reaching in not for the word, but for the space which a time. fat drops driven violently side ways. the man's mind into which she tossed herself becomes a bird. fly away, bird. fly south where you are needed. letters moved, she could barely make them out. the sky moved, hanging bluntly. a circle swayed toppled to the sea. to you, sea, i chant and to the one with ears, hearing you into me. this

people that gathered in golden grove park say one goal still eludes them. >> none of us thought that we would be standing here in 2010 without a cure. but we have made strides medically to keep individuals alive and keep them sustaining a quality of life. >> organizers also awarded scholarships to three bay area high school students for their essays on the aids epidemic. >>> almost 30 years ago the center for disease control issued a report about a strange outbreak of pneumonia among gaymen in los angeles. cases of the mysterious illness were cropping up here in san francisco. the disease did not even have a name. and we now know it as aids. dr. kim mulvihill joins us with how this has evolved over the last 30 years. >> when you think about 30 years ago, to have hiv, the virus causes aids. that was pretty much a death sentence. by the height of the epidemic here in san francisco, nearly 13,000, mostly gay men, had died. a lot has changed. >> reporter: last night in golden gate park, light cut through the dark. tiny votive candles illuminated the grove in honor of the 20th anniversary

they were disguised in a banana grove, hard to detect from the air. >> this is where they concentrate. and now, they are going up the coast. >> this is a typical jungle bordering here in columbia -- colombia. one less libor tory, one less shipment to new haute -- one less libor torrent -- laboratory, one less shipment to the u.s. or britain. >> yesterday, we reported on the conflict in somalia. there are links to al qaeda. there is the human cost of this fighting. one of the worst refugee problems. access to refugees in neighboring djibouti, but thousands demonstrated for more than 20 years. >> somalis fleeing the violence further south. they are arriving with little else but hope. the tiny state of djibouti has become a major springboard for somali refugees. at the border, a group of new arrivals from mogadishu. every day, dozens of somali refugees made their way here. many are destined to remain here in camps in djibouti, many for years. others make the short crossing picket against the gulf. -- make the short crossing note on the gulf. he says a shell landed on his home, killing al