it is too different, from aretha franklin, ray charles, ll, duke. there is no panicle. -- there is no pinnacle. i would say the most influential people in the last 50 years of american music. that is something, i don't know how it happened, because you cannot plan that. you cannot make that happen. you have to just do what you know what to do and hope that somebody says dewitt with me. it -- and hope that somebody says do it with me. it is like with fright, and paris, i was the musical director for their records. somebody called and said mr. sinatra wrote once you to bring the whole house down, 55 musicians, to monaco for a sporting club for a fund-raiser for sinatra. i did not even know him. it was like a dream for an arranger. we went down, i got a call one day. the first guy to call me q -- q, i heard that phrase in that you did for count basie. it was a waltz. he said i like the one that you did. in 4-4. would you consider doing an album with me and count basie? i said, man, are you kidding? you better believe it. i worked with him from 1964 unt