henry kissinger went to china in secret in 1971. as secretary of state he prepared the visit of his boss richard nixon. he spoke to us and began by asking him whether the recent transformation keeps them up at night. >> it does not keep me up at night. i did not expect it in 1971. but it is a reality with which we have to live. crux is that a reality america should be afraid of. >> america has to live with the china that exists. whether we have to be afraid of it or not will depend on the problems we both pursue. it should be our objective to have a country with which we cooperate creatively. >> the last years have been pretty tricky. issues of trade and human rights. if you were in the white house today what would you advise president obama? >> it seems to me china and the u.s. have really -- there is no conceivable victory in the cold war between them before either side. so i had the impression -- while a lot of the media deals with alleged [unintelligible] i believe some of these differences are real, but also there is a conscien

i have a complete hate for henry kissinger. it enables me to penetrate this fog in which he is shrouded. it does not eat away at me. it does not keep me awake at night. it does not fill me with a but i do think there is such a thing as evil and the world and it is sometimes personified. there is no obligation to be ambivalent, there. >> have you changed your mind at all about mother teresa? >> why would i change my mind about her? i could not exactly a her because she was a prophetic figure, but i detested the influence that she had. i could tell you why in a sentence if you want. the very reason is that we know what the cure for poverty is. give women some control over their reproduction cycle. get them off the animal routine. the breathing machine. -- of the breeding machine. the population will decline sharply. it would never fail. mother teresa spent her entire life opposing everything that works. she opposed birth control and abortion, which she called a murder -- which she called murder. that is basically it. the reputati

i mean someone like henry kissinger for example. it's bad to let it -- it's a bit like alcohol if you'd like. it's a good servant but it's a bad master. i mean i have a completely cold hatred and contempt for henry kissinger, but it doesn't waste much of my time. it s just that it enables me to penetrate, i think, the sort of fog of sentiment and bogus reputation in which he's shrouded and protected. and it doesn't eat away at me. it doesn't keep me awake at night, doesn't poison me. doesn't fill me with bile. but i can't pretend that it's just a matter of political disagreement. i mean i think there is such a thing as evil in the world. and sometimes, personified. and i think was under no obligation to be ambivalent there. >> did you change your mind at all about mother theresa? >> what would change my mind about her? i didn't never -- one couldn't exactly hate her. because in a way she was a pathetic figure. but i detested the influence that she had. i could tell you why in a sentence if you want. well, the very reason is that she

henry kissinger, secretary gary locke, ambassador mr. muhtar kent, chair of the national committee on u.s.-china relations, ladies and gentlemen, give friends, -- dear friends, i wish to begin to thank the u.s. national committee on u.s.-china relations. i am delighted to have this opportunity to meet friends old and new, to renew friendship and plan for the future. i would like to extend a cordial greetings and best wishes to you and people from various sectors of the united states who have long supported the growth of china-u.s. relations. on this day 74 years ago, president franklin roosevelt made his inaugural speech. the road of enduring progress. he called on the american people, who were coming out of the depression, to unite as one and forge ahead along the road of enduring progress. today, the turbulence caused by the international financial crisis is receding. the world the economy is returning to growth. there still exists many uncertainties and destabilizating factors making recovery a torturous process. all the economies, in

as president obama welcomes president hu jintao from chie now for dinner we talked to henry kissinger who years ago went to china and changed the relationship. he speaks this evening about the relationship today and in the future. >> one should shouldn't protect the trade line in which china is dominant. they have a major power with its own big problems. there's no reason why we should not remain in a position of equality in some areas, superiority, maybe not. so i don't accept this. but we will no longer be as dominant as we were right after world war ii when we were the only functioning maintained country. and we have to adjust our understanding of the world into a world in which there are other countries that are capable of asserting their interests, not just because they submit to our leadership but they can make us adjust some of the things. >> charlie: a program note. we had promoted a conversation with joe schultz the former secretary of state. that program will be seen next week. tonight kissinger for the hour. maybe you want school kids to have more exposure to the arts. mayb

you'll see this in the henry kissinger relationship with him, that when they took their first trip to europe, they are in london and nixon asked kissinger took him to his hotel room late at night. and he asked kissinger to tell him what a wonderful job be done that day. kissinger at this point wasn't so in that nixon, so he will evade it on. and this became a ritual. so moynihan, in order to bring nixon over to doing some things about these things lead to donham, so we say it, that he could be benjamin disraeli, the great prime minister, 19th century prime minister of britain, who is a conservative reformer intent but queen vic tori a to do various things. but nixon was no disraeli. this was suggested that moynihan was trying to put on nixon that he would want to assume that mantle, but it was very technical. post a list or what the relationship between nixon and him. >> guest: it was a very, almost tempestuous relationship. here you had -- downtown, i don't believe in psycho biography. but you cannot do nixon, much less nixon-kissinger without getting in there had. and i'll talk abou

. >> a respected elder statesman introduced him -- former secretary of state henry kissinger. >> if our country's work ttether, most of the problems that are before rest will find a creative solution -- that are before us will find a creative solution. if they do not, then there is no possibility for one side or the other achieving a success over the other. >> there is still much that divides the economies. they need each other to prosper. that is the message of this ate visit. >> i spoke to our washington correspondent, and began by asking for more about what was talked about at the meeting. >> president who is on a very tight schedule, but congressional leaders managed to ask questions concerning human rights. they asked a lot about intellectual property protection, which is very important for american software companies. at least the house members were running out of time. but the senate members in the meeting after that managed to ask some questions about currency issues as well. all the hairy issues for president hu. you can say this was a less enjoyable meeting and the state dinne

henry kissinger to the ball for who so how much of it is just talk and exactly how much of it is talk with china because if you look at the next headline strong china growth boosted by nearly one trillion pounds of loans so china's economy grew by ten point three percent in two thousand and ten but it turns out that quote the banks are lending more than twice as much as they were before the financial crisis and they're also printing new money money supply is up fifty percent from a couple of years ago according to elsa thornton an economist at i.h.s. global insight in beijing well who is really the new ronald reagan and in china now you've got three hundred million chinese yuppies this is just like the one nine hundred eighty s. except they're chinese up bs they're chappies and they're out there spending money that they don't really have and projects that don't really exist in the hopes of an economic growth that will never materialize well and if you look at what they're doing with this money supply how the money supply is growing and why you'll understand that they're adopting the s

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henry kissinger wrote in "the washington post" that we should not start a cold war with china. if you try to create a new cold war enemy, that is going to happen. host: james mann, what is the model between china and russian relations? guest: i think what the caller means is that he thinks the united states model for dealing with china is the united states model for dealing with the soviet union. i don't think that is correct. the relationship is entirely different in lots of ways, good and bad. we have not had a relationship as we do with china now where our economic relations are -- and trade relations are so close and so interdependent. that is a fact of life that we did not have with the soviet union. frankly, i don't believe this whole idea of the cold war mentality. i think that is a false charge that people make any time there is either conflict between the united states and china or the united states is pursuing something in its own interests that they would like the united states to back off of. host: rick, go ahead. caller: my question was more about green technology.

. >> a respected elder statesman introduced him -- former secretary of state henry kissinger. >> if our country's work together, most of the problems that are before rest will find a creative solution -- that are before us will find a creative solution. if they do not, then there is no possibility for one side or the other achieving a success over the other. >> there is still much that divides the economies. they need each other to prosper. that is the message of this state visit. >> i spoke to our washington correspondent, and began by asking for more about what was talked about at the meeting. >> president who is on a very tight schedule, but congressional leaders managed to ask questions concerning human rights. they asked a lot about intellectual property protection, which is very important for american software companies. at least the house members were running out of time. but the senate members in the meeting after that managed to ask some questions about currency issues as well. all the hairy issues for president hu. you can say this was a less enjoyable meeting and the state di

it is when i first started realizing the people that were around me as a child were like a henry kissinger and other later figured out who he really was. i thought he was a scary old guy who talks to young brats and then i realized he was a prominent fixture in american history. that is where it started. amazing, beautiful memories. i don't have any real memories of south carolina. people ask me about that as well. but parents kept me very sheltered. beautiful memories is where it all started. i wanted to get a house in new hampshire for the state and people and nation's status. that is much vitamin why sarah palin won't be president. you have to earn the vote. people go to town halls two pour three times, really take that right very seriously. it is where i start to understand the political process. i understand the electoral process which is somewhat rare and that young age. beautiful memories. i was very lucky as a child. >> we are curious to know what your own aspirations life might be and what with you would like to bring your legacy to fruition? >> i do not.to run for office. i talke

when i started realizing that the people who were around me as a child like henry kissinger. i later figured out who he really was. i thought he was a scary old guy with a deep-. as i got older i realized it was a prominent picture of american history so that is where it started. amazing, beautiful gorgeous summaries. i don't have any real memories of south carolina. people ask me that as well. my parents are awesome at keeping the sheltered. i have beautiful memories. i wanted to get a house because i have an affinity for the state. in new hampshire you have to earn the vote of the citizens. it is where i learned to love voting and understand the political process. it is somewhat rare. beautiful memories. i was very lucky as a child. >> i would be curious to know what your own aspirations might be and to bring your legacy to fruition? >> i do not want to run for office. i could not get elected. i talked too much. i am too onerous. i tell my life story to cab drivers. anything you want to know. i am an open book. i swear all the time. i don't think a woman like me could get e

for this gathering of businessmen here in washington, former secretary of state henry kissinger expected to introduce the chinese president. this is live coverage on c-span2. >> thank you. welcome. i am john frisby, president of u.s.-china business council. i have one housekeeping item. you all have headphones to listen to the translation in front of you. if for some reason it's not reason -- working, raise your hand and we will swap it out. join me in welcoming the chairman and chief executive officer of the coca-cola company. [applause] >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. welcome to our luncheon in honor of the president of the people's republic of china, the honorable hu jintao, and our distinguished guests from the china delegati delegation. our two cohosts today, the u.s.-china business council, and the national committee on u.s.-china relations are delighted and are honored that you could join us on this historic occasion, mr. president. we all recognize that the u.s.-china relationship grows more important every single day. and just the last few months, we have witnessed an u

. >> rose: henry kissinger on this program expressed the idea that he might have said the international uproar meant china was paying a price for that attitude. >> actually, you know, many countries, more than 100 countries, support our position. >> rose: my impression is on on the vital question of currency and appreciation, what china is saying, as it has said, is we understand the relevance of this issue. but the appreciation, because of what it means to us, will have to take place slowly. am i stating the position correctry? >> i think, you know, in the joint statement, we have reafirmed that the reform of the exchange rate reform will continue. but-- and the u.s. has reafirmed its readiness to watch the if exchange rate of the dollar. so i think this is-- there is something we will continue to do and we hope the u.s. will do what you need to do. >> rose: i thank you for your time. it's great to have ow this program again. and i hope that we can continue the conversation in beijing. >> thank you. >> rose: on wednesday hu jinto met with c.e.o.s at the white house. disagreement over c

it's when i first started realizing the people as a child henry kissinger, i figured out who he was. i thought he was a scary old guy. then i learned he was a prominent fixture of american history. it started when i was 14. i don't have any real memories of south carolina. people ask me that as well. i think my parents were awesome at keeping me very sheltered. but beautiful memories. it's where it all started. and i wanted some day, you know, get a house in new hampshire. because i have such an affinity for the state and the people and the nation status. it's actually why -- that's my argument for why palin won't become president. new hampshire, you have to earn the vote. people go to town hall to pick the candidates. they take the right seriously. it where i learned to love voting. it where i understand where learn the political process. i understand the electoral process. it's rare. it started at a young age. beautiful memories. >> thank you. >> thank you. i was very lucky as a child. >> i think we were curious to know what your own aspirations might be and in what way would you l

kissinger and say, well, those two, it just demonstrates those scandinavians have a real sense of humor. [laughter] but anyway, so one of the reasons roosevelt went to war is was to scratch this historical, school itch. there were other elements. there was the feeling on the part of some americans that the country, the economy had outgrown its consumer base. for the first time in american history by the 1890s, american, america's economy could produce more than american consumers needed to consume. in an agrarian age when farming is the basis of the economy, well, you don't have depressions because people, their needs are greater than their productive capacity. but when you emerge in the age of industrialization, of economic modernization, it's just the opposite. the productive capacity is greater than the consumptive needs. the first serious industrial depression in american history takes place in the 1890s. and can americans look at this, and they say, boy, in the first place, this is something new. because now we've got this problem where we can produce more than we can consume. so w

kissinger, back in 2006, on the '30s and a version of reykjreykjavÍk got together and decided to start an effort to move toward eliminating nuclear weapons. there is now the real possibility, and i think it can be an increasingly possibility in the future, that subnational groups can get their hands on some sort of nuclear weapons or kind in that circumstance deterrence seemingly has no value at all. and under those circumstances what could we threaten such a group with. the other thing we could do was hope we were able to apprehend them, stop them before they set off whatever device they had. so from the point of view of the four horsemen, and i mentioned that because my opinion is my opinion, but those men at least had major expense in government. they saw that change as very important, and as recent to move to zero as quickly as possible. >> richard, do you really think the iaea and the u.n. are capable of brokering a deal diplomatically about nuclear weapons? if they can't, who's going to do it? how do we do it? >> the activities that have been a part of the nuclear test ban treaty

former diplomat, henry kissinger and madeleine albright, christiana report from abc news and business executives who talked about from walt disney, goldman sachs as well as members of the diplomatic community. former governor jon huntsman. what stands out from these 225 people who are in the list for tonight's dinner and what does that tell you about our relations with china? >> guest: actually i think, as steve mentioned earlier, this is a fairly typical list. your cultural luminaries, often people -- jackie chan is on here. a popular figure. >> host: barbra streisand. >> guest: barbra streisand well known in relations -- you have big business people. some are friends of the president and others are just there because of their major roles in china. so jeff and now from ge. ge has an enormous set of businesses in china. yet some people from the u.s. administration to deal with china. of course you have a lot of chinese who are at the dinner. what struck me and this is a minor point come but what struck me as there are no former u.s. ambassadors to china with the exception of winston b

but unfortunately and this is why the so-called four horsemen, george soros, bill man and henry kissinger back in 2006 on the 30th anniversary of reykjavÍk got together and decided to start an effort to move towards eliminating nuclear weapons, there is now the real possibility and i think it is going to be an increasing possibility in the future that subnational groups can get their hands on some sort of nuclear weapons and in that circumstance deterrent seemingly has no value at all. under those circumstances what could we threaten such a group with? the only thing we could do was hope we are able to apprehend them and stop them before they set off whatever device they develop. from the point of view of the four horsemen and i mention that because my opinion is my opinion but that those men at least had major experience of government. they saw that change as millennial. that is very important and reason to move as quickly as possible. >> do you really think the iaea and the u.n. are capable of brokering a deal diplomatically to remove nuclear weapons? if they can't, who is going to do

the chinese president has introduced by former secretary of state henry kissinger. this is half an hour. pplause] >> mr. president, distinguished guests, before i say anything else, let me congratulate president hu jintao on his successful summit in washington, which i'm sure will be marked as a turning point that starts the cooperative dimension in dealing with the important issues that are before us. when we finished the communique announcing my secretisit, he turned to me and said this will shape the world, and it did. the opening of relations between china and the united states after so many years of separation did change the world. since then, eight american presidents, for generations of chinese leaders have worked on this relationship. and when i think of the chne leaders from which chairmen mao who unified the country to with deng xioaping who started an opening to the who implemented one of those concepts in difficult periods and then to president hu jintao, who developed and built on the achievement of its predecessors and came to a situation that both ins

he had a group of people that he would talk to occasionally, like henry kissinger and alexander haig, dimitri simes for russian affairs. he didn't spend a lot of time on the telephone. c-span: what was the day like for him near the end? guest: well, he was an early riser. he would get up about 5:00, 5:30 in the morning. he would take a brisk three-mile walk. he would eat a very spartan breakfast. he would read the new york times, the wall street journal every day. and then he would come into the office about 9:00, and he would go through his mail and handle any scheduling and calendaring things that he needed to take care of, any administrative things. and then he would usually call me in for a bull session to just talk about whatever was on his mind -- foreign policy, american policy. c-span: what did you learn that you're going to use in your own -- i mean -- by the way, when's your ph.d. going to be finished? guest: that's the never-ending process. i've just begun research on my dissertation, so i suspect maybe two more years. c-span: now you're at columbia. guest: yes. c-span: and

former secretary of state henry kissinger will introduce the president. live coverage of that gets under way at 12:30 eastern here on c-span2. >> tuesday president obama delivers the state of the union address to a joint session of congress. c-span's live coverage begins at 8 p.m. eastern with our preview program followed by the president's speech at 9. then the republican response and your phone calls live on c-span, c-span radio and online at c-span.org. you can also watch the president's address on c-span2 followed by reaction from members of congress from statuary hall. >> this weekend on american history tv on c-span3, historians discussed the first age of terror, domestic terrorism of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. from the american historical association conference. learn of the century-old traditions of preparing for presidential and military horse-drawn funeral caissons and greg carr explains how former slaves escaped and started new laws. experience american history tv on c-span3 all weekend, every weekend. see the complete schedule onl

former diplomat, henry kissinger and madeleine albright, christiana report from abc news and business executives who talked about from walt disney, goldman sachs as well as members of the diplomatic community. former governor jon huntsman. what stands out from these 225 people who are in the list for tonight's dinner and what does that tell you about our relations with china? >> guest: actually i think, as steve mentioned earlier, this is a fairly typical list. your cultural luminaries, often people -- jackie chan is on here. a popular figure. >> host: barbra streisand. >> guest: barbra streisand well known in relations -- you have big business people. some are friends of the president and others are just there because of their major roles in china. so jeff and now from ge. ge has an enormous set of businesses in china. yet some people from the u.s. administration to deal with china. of course you have a lot of chinese who are at the dinner. what struck me and this is a minor point come but what struck me as there are no former u.s. ambassadors to china with the exception of winston b

kissinger. because of a conflict of interest he was taken off the commission. if you look at fred fielding and the white house counsel, he took the place of harry admirers, who was not appointed. he sat on the commission, as well as his law firm representing a gentleman that embezzled in my community here on long island. all of the records pertaining to the case were in building #7, which happened to be farther away from the twin towers. host: that is a lot to respond to. guest: as far as the 9/11 conspiracy, it is clear that 19 hijackers were the people behind it. he talked about eisenhower and the military-industrial complex, he was spot on when he talked about that in his speech. i have borrowed from that and referred to the homeland security industrial index. some of the crazy ideas that they come up with in that building, some of the people that work on k street are very profit motivated by an funding their projects. what happens is a lot of money gets wasted in your family is not any more

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kissinger. because of a conflict of interest he was taken off the commission. if you look at fred fielding and the white house counsel, he took the place of harry admirers, who was not appointed. he sat on the commission, as well as his law firm representing a gentleman that embezzled in my community here on long island. all of the records pertaining to the case were in building #7, which happened to be farther away from the twin towers. host: that is a lot to respond to. guest: as far as the 9/11 conspiracy, it is clear that 19 hijackers were the people behind it. he talked about eisenhower and the military-industrial complex, he was spot on when he talked about that in his speech. i have borrowed from that and referred to the homeland security industrial index. some of the crazy ideas that they come up with in that building, some of the people that work on k street are very profit motivated by an funding their projects. what happens is a lot of money gets wasted in your family is not any more

kissinger was in the room and brzezinski. there was a shooting war in georgia a couple of years ago. there is no canadian democracy promotion agency with an office in georgia. we were blind, deaf and dumb. there is a scurrilous attempt by the government of belarus to steal yet another election. that canada's ambassador in warsaw has a credit haitian because our policy is we don't talk to the belarusian government which means we have, we have no capability there. our american friends have learned you never know where the next flight or the next opportunity is going to come from so your diplomatic corps has to be present and active and have freedom of maneuver around the world, and our last few governments i think have deluded themselves into thinking you can shrink the world into productive will threats and opportunities. it just ain't so. >> very quickly. >> as quickly i think it is really clear that in the question of afghanistan, the way canada has served in that has an incredibly important for canada and on principles that

kissinger was in the room and brzezinski. there was a shooting war in georgia a couple of years ago. there is no canadian democracy promotion agency with an office in georgia. we were blind, deaf and dumb. there is a scurrilous attempt by the government of belarus to steal yet another election. that canada's ambassador in warsaw has a credit haitian because our policy is we don't talk to the belarusian government which means we have, we have no capability there. our american friends have learned you never kw where the next flight or the next opportunity is going to come from so your diplomatic corps has to be present and active and have freedom of maneuver around the world, and our last few governments i think have deluded themselves into thinking you can shrink the world into productive will threats and opportunities. it just ain't so. >> very quickly. >> as quickly i think it is really clear that in the question of afghanistan, the way canada has served in that has an incredibly important for canada and on principles that i