i talked to elaine jennings from small small potatoes. just a lot of the other business owners in my community and everybody seemed to feel the same way. a lot of us, like me renterred commercial space that's mixed use and upstairs residence whfment they come to me, i can recycle them the same day. but the residents for upstairs that sits for weeks and customers stepping over them and for my restaurant it created an issue because it clogged the opening. so it's pretty -- it's pretty bad. and it's kind of like if i started a business selling t-shirts with ads on them of sports wear makers and just threw them all over san francisco. it seems like that would be littering but it's kind of the same thing the phone book does. it's just accepted for some reason and i think it shouldn't be. so i support the legislation. thanks. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners. commissioner o'brien, i will try not to make you nasty guy here. i'm peter dylan representing the yellow pages association tonight, speaking on behalf of the pres