robert gates was skeptical of further action in the middle east. whenever he thinks about the arab spring, he sees a deep cut to the military and their capabilities. >> we make the hard decisions that are needed to reduce the debt of america. we cannot compromise the ability to defend our nation around the world. >> the issues about where the united states may use intervention again in the middle east is multi-dimensional. the crisis is multiplying and a question about whether each case is suitable is very different. >> it is understood that there are distinct limitations on what the west can do now in the arab world. if they are military or diplomatic or economic. it may turn out that khadafi may be involved in attracting direct military intervention. >> the desire to limit military commitment has been shown in libya. after the initial attack, they scaled back. the rest of nato cannot match this. >> i am concerned that the united states is showing reluctance till -- use of the efforts at its disposal. when you are trying to correct -- protect civi

east and on american policy in the middle east. and as we think about how to deal with the winter of arab discontent and the spring of arab revolutions is seminal works on the iranian revolution and americans' response to it are well worth taking another look at. we have seen remarkable events in the last 100 days in the arab world. first in tunisia, then in egypt, now libya, yemen, bahrain, syria and i could go on and on. there is a full day's worth of discussions here. i'm going to focus, though, on the impact of egypt, on events in egypt and on what they mean for american foreign policy. i should begin by saying a word about the title. stability is, of course, is the "s" word to egyptian revolutionaries. stability has been the code word for repression, for dictatorship for the last 30 years in egypt. they are quite right in saying that. but we also have an interest in trying to see how the change will impact on stability. so with apologies to the egyptian revolutionaries, i think we should proceed forward. there are many ways to

washington support for opposition movements in the middle east and north africa could be back firing on its biggest ally israel faces actually a radical islamists hamas rockets say instability in those regions has diverted attention away from them allowing them to target israel. with millions of addicts in russia drug tests could become a compulsory in schools counselors and psychologists say it's not a solution they demand the government focus on building more rehabilitation centers which offer better treatment. for syria is just the latest part of the arab world to find itself in a state of historic flux so once he has spoken to a seasoned middle east reporter to get his view on what's happening alan hart thinks the syrian president is a prisoner to the will of his own security forces that discussion is coming your way next right here. i'm talking to alan hots who's a veteran middle east journalist who's been involved with the region for forty years as both a reporter and a conflicts with alan thanks very much for talking to me now you've been speaking we said a lot about whether m

in the wake of all these revolutions in the middle east islamists will come to our region. with this it's terrifying thing if we stand back and look how it through through egypt. the what we might call the extremists or the fundamentalist muslims they weren't in the game it was basically very ordinary people of all classes and all backgrounds. you know if the suppression goes on and on what that will do is eventually open the door to the extremists so in my view the west should now be solidly behind the street as it were to bring about the reforms in the changes they want because that is the way to guarantee that the fundamentalists won't have the oxygen if you like to come into the business it's a huge issue that. was about israel in all of this will it be less safe place in the future if you think israel has never been an unsafe place one of the greats is . another and father of all lies as it relates to the israeli palestine conflict is that israel's been in danger of annihilation i detail in the three volumes of my book it is a complete lie israel's existence has never

washington's support for opposition movements in the middle east and north africa could be backfiring on its biggest ally israel fears is actually boosting a radical islamists fighters saying instability in those regions has diverted attention allowing them to talk is right. out of millions of addicts in russia could soon face legal action for their habits with the government planning to hold them criminally accountable for other parts of the planning food making and drug tests compulsory in schools. now syria is just the latest part of the arab world find itself in a state of historic flux so as he has spoken to a seasoned middle east reporter to get his view on what's happening alan hart thinks the syrian president is a prisoner to the will of his own security forces and that interview is coming your way. i'm talking to alan hots he's a veteran middle east journalist he's been involved with the region for forty years as both a reporter conflicts resolved alan thanks very much for talking now you've been speaking with severe loss about where the mainstream media has betrayed the idea

one of them is struggling for a diplomatic solution a summit middle east experts accuse washington of steering the arab world in accordance with its own. this is a new fighting between gadhafi forces and the rebels for the libyan city of brega where a nato air strike has the story and more in this convoy i'm forty seven the capital city of tripoli joining me in a few moments and i'll bring you more. as the from the u.k. pour some more cash into the libyan campaign or many at home a slap in the government massive cuts in the public sector they say their democratic rights are being neglected. under launching a space like you see three cosmonauts blast off towards the international space station and nearly fifty years to the day since man a first ventured to the stars. a very warm welcome to you this is our live from moscow well as the fight for control over the oil rich libyan coastline continues the u.s. is stepping back from its leading role in the operation buffington will still oversee the logistics of the mission but has encouraged other nato countries to increase their military co

obama began with an outdated and conventional view of the middle east. and defining the arab-israeli conflict. this was the classic american view of the region but i thought it was unfortunate. the bush administration had made the conceptual breakthrough after 9/11 in saying that the arab-israeli conflict was not central. the of problem was the stasis of autocratic regimes. the bush administration cannot pursue this to the end and it lost its nerve after a while. and understood the region differently. the obama administration started with the mistake of going back to the old philosophy. as a result, they were taken by surprise by this uprising. there are many people who was -- were saying that this was untenable. experts are trying to tell demonstration that change was inevitable. demonstration did not listen. in every country, where this change has exploded, the initial impulse seems to be to resist the idea that change is inevitable or desirable. obama was quoted as saying you cannot allow yourself to be behind the curve. hillary clinton's first statem

i'm talking to alan hots he's a veteran middle east journalist he's been involved with the region for forty years as both a reporter and a conflicts resolved alan thanks very much for talking now you've been speaking with a lot about where the mainstream media has betrayed the idea of democracy in the middle east in its reporting do you think. oh i think it has totally betrayed democracy because there's a political reality to the face. no american president. and only an american president masses in american president has the leverage to require israel to be serious about peace. he's never going to use that leverage on this because there's the control of the zionist lobby in congress he's never going to use the leverage even if he wants to until he is pushed to do so by informed public opinion one might say by demonstrations a real democracy and actually the problem in america and frankly in europe but most of all america is the most citizens are too uninformed and misinformed to do the pushing and that is frankly because the media has been complicit. with zionism in suppressing the tr

security forces put down on rest in the middle east with rubber bullets tear gas and other nation and they've got plenty the u.k. was still selling arms to libya just four months before colonel gadhafi turned on his own people the government ministers approving a deal for sniper rifles bullets take out. very very strict set of guidelines that say where where it is likely human rights violations might say place you're not supposed to sell the weapons and i would say looking back through a number of credible sources including amnesty international but it was always likely always very very likely the equipment supplied to colonel gadhafi would and could be used in the brutal crackdown of support for test. arms exports is big business in the u.k. valued at nearly twelve billion dollars in two thousand and nine now a highly critical report by m.p.'s exposes the scale of u.k. arms sales to some of the world's most brutal regimes the libyan export licenses were some of the most valuable according to the reports the u.k. sold nearly three hundred fifty million dollars worth of arms there in t

more insight into the ongoing unrest in syria he spoke to a veteran of middle east reporter alan hart says the country's president who runs out of himself as a reformer is most likely a prisoner to the will of his own security forces to stay with us. i'm talking to allan hawks he's a veteran middle east journalist who's been involved with the region for forty years as both a reporter and conflicts resolved alan thanks very much for talking now you've been speaking with a loss about whether the mainstream media has betrayed the idea of democracy in the middle east in its reporting do you think how this. oh i think it has totally betrayed democracy because there's a political reality to be face. no american president. only an american president masses every american president has the leverage to require israel to be serious about peace. he's never going to use that leverage. unless he because of the control of the zionist lobby in congress he's never going to use the leverage even if he wants to until he is pushed to do so by informed public opinion one might say by demonstrations of re

[applause] >> what do you make of the current situation in the middle east? >> there is an easy topic. it is very dangerous. i think it took a lot of people by surprise and has a lot of bad potential. if you go back to december of last year at don't think anybody in the administration was worried about the prospect of egypt falling out of our coalition and becoming a hostile actor in the middle east. now they have to think about that. that is extremely disturbing because we had it good for 30 years with respect to egypt. if you go back before the camp david accord you have a situation where from the founding of the state of israel there were four conventional wars fought over that featuring israel and its backers against various coalitions of arab states. the genius of the camp david accords was if you take egypt out of the occasion there is no other group of arab states that could get together to threaten israel because egypt has the location, the manpower, and any other group without egypt in there. they couldn't do it realistically. it was a very smart fai

the events in the middle east under lie the effect that al qaeda is on the losing side. president obama said small man on a wrong side of history and that is a good way of looking at them. >> we have an opportunity for your questions. please wait for the microphone to come to you before you post your questions so the viewers will be able to hear what you are asking. let's start over here. >> we heard that war is the answer in some cases. i wonder if we could hear from both of you on your view if war is the answer,. >> i started to talk about this a little bit. i am ambivalent about it because the year may be point that we need to -- you can't kill civilians with impunity. i think obama gave a pretty good speech explaining why he did it. here is the problem. this goes back to what dwight eisenhower worried about. once you start these wars it is hard to know where they stopped. in this case we wanted to make it a fairly limited narrow thing. let's save these civilians from slaughter by joining with our allies and bombing libyan troops. but president obama made it clear tha

waffle has changed reaches across the arab middle east and all when there's a new doctrine. in indonesia oh geez available in the ground zero for sure it's a mediocre job the ritz carlton hotel a little hotel in the film the millennium hotel in china you can.

well, i hope you understand what is happening in the middle east. we're going to show you a timeline here in a few minutes. it will show you that many of our, many of our politicians in washington, i believe, are in bed with the enemy. c'mon. ♪ ♪ >> glenn: a lot to do tonight. try to move as fast as i can. this is a show that you really want to dvr tonight, because we're going to jam through a lot of information. have i even said hello, america? hi. an outspoken prominent uber-liberal war critic has come out and slammed obama's military assault on libya. they said even if the country has a tyrant, even if that tyrant is butchering his own people, if the country poses no imminent threat to the united states or to his neighbors, then getting involved amounts to a dumb war." actually wasn't talking about this president's war. he was talking about george bush's war. that was said in 2002 by the then state senator barack obama about the iraq war. now as president obama is doing things he doesn't have that same opinion. he's launched a murky military

. >> host: the greater middle east you're talking about. >> guest: some people use the middle east to include any islamic country. some people use it for arabs. it's a british term for a great deal of use. i am interested in the area where the united states is waging war which is iraq, afghanistan, pakistan, parts of iran, the battle of the united states. there's three balances of power in the region, the arab-israeli come here on iraq and the pakistani. each one of them destabilized over the ten years. and the arab israeli relationship barring some german the change in egypt over time. israel is so dominant that it can create new realities on the ground and there is an indifference to what the united states really says very often. and afghanistan, the united states is asking pakistan to do things to create instability that weakens pakistan, that potentially created the independent regional power in india that the united states may not appreciate in the long run and of course they invaded iraq has destroyed the iran iraq what is the most immediate issue which is for getting nuclear we

the middle east and north africa. the bond arabic winter has begun to thought. for the first time in decades, there is a real opportunity for lasting change. a real opportunity for people to have their voices heard and their priorities addressed. this raises significant questions for us all. will the people and the leaders of the middle east and north africa pursue a new, more inclusive approach to solving the region's persistent political, economic, and social challenges? will they consolidate the progress of recent weeks and address long been denied aspirations for dignity? or when we meet again in one year or five years, will we have seen the prospect for reform made and remember this moment is just a mirage in the desert? these questions can only be answered by the people and leaders of the middle east and north africa themselves. the united states does not have all the answers. in fact, we are struggling to thrash out answers to our own difficult political and economic questions. but america is committed to working as a partner to help unlock the region's p

middle east unrest has taken the blame but some drivers we met don't blame middle east unrest. >> they have the highest profits ever yet they are saying they are not making any money. >> monsters. you know they are the ones that are clocking the dollarsen on us. we have no choice, there's nothing we can do about it. >> people start to make money on the gas, they buy oil and not for use but to just speculation. >> reporter: president obama acknowledged last week that specklators are helping drive gas prices up as they did in 2008. analysts add a bad hurricane season could drive prices through the roof to yes $6 a gallon. in san francisco, i'm john sasaki, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> we checked how today's prices compare to the national high. it's 35-cents lower than the record high of $4.58. that record was set in june 2008. >>> we're hearing new stories tonight out of the tornado ravished area of missouri. for the first time today, many saw some of the 750 homes destroyed up close. the st. louis airport has reopened but as dan simons reports it will take a lot longer for residents to reco

the middle east. and what we really should be doing is reorienting our foreign policy to asia and the pacific. well, surging 30,000 troops into afghanistan countered that strategy as a lot of people out. similarly getting involved in libya could certainly contradict that strategy. in a sense they keep getting if you can in this regional word but they want to unstick the united states. >> charlie: it is said with respect petraeus very much expanding the special operations in afghanistan which is kind of the war of the future i suspect they're talking about. and secondly, that annettea had used the aic in a kind of a para military way. so those two strains of the same thing are becoming awe scentant. what the cia has done and of fan stan -- you're absolutely right about that. one thing i will say about petraeus going to the cia. there has not been a good track record for the generals and admirals in this administration taking on civilian roles. jim jones, obama's first national security advisers was not

prime minister david cameron led a junkets to the middle east to flaunt the wares of british arms dealers i can't imagine who was in the prime minister's office and said to him look you can organize dictators. for decades they've spent most of the weaponry shooting up their own population that was a really good time to go and try and sell them some. some more i can't imagine what damage. people say. the people who are integrating. protesters at the moment reports also say the government misjudged the risk of selling on's to countries like egypt and bahrain but many would go much further one of the things that you've seen is a characteristic of british aid around the last ten years has been the provision of this highly militarized security sector so exactly the opposite of that of trying to stimulate we are providing the means by which those countries regimes can come down democracy since the violence began more than a thousand people have been killed in libya and twenty six killed and a thousand injured in bahrain so stansell evidence gathered by reports also suggests much of that damage

people said to me from the middle east taking offense. how come you never include the middle east when you talk about great things. they immediately think i deliberately, i don't like the middle east. the answer's pretty straightforward. the two population, large population countries in the middle east that matter iran and egypt. when i see evidence of things changing the leaders or the people want to engage with the rest of the world, then i start to get interested in it. and that's partly how i'm looking at this remarkable short period that's evidence so far of what's started in tunisia and egypt. >> charlie: in previous political campaigns in the united states, a phrase has been used as cheap labor. what's the implication of the cost of labor. >> you know, two things. international trade is a win/win. most people don't believe it, particularly those that are some in the disadvantaged areas. >> charlie: because factories close in their home towns. >> we l benefit. and the key is flexibility and education. the next phase of this is that

and trying out over the unrest in the middle east and africa is still supporting crude the brand land is trading around one hundred twenty two and a half dollars per barrel and is an over one hundred and eight dollars. the plan liberalization of the european gas market has come under fierce criticism at moscow's international energy forum in germany trouble from the center of international energy studies says forcing supplies to give up control of pipelines in europe is akin to exploration. but there is a problem with the pipeline so we should build in one thousand nine to supply. the many companies my grasp on first of all which you are actually demanding huge investments in that very difficult time you're a member and currently we are told to just relax and forget about your sense of these are not your innocence anymore so it looks really like a sort of fix appropriation thank you very much you're free to do it. now let's have a look at how the stock markets are performing here in russia markets are down for the second day this week as for decline in new york the wise exodus losing

prime minister david cameron led to junkets to the middle east to the wares of british arms dealers i can't imagine who it was in the prime minister's office and so time look. when these dictators. for decades they've spent a certain amount of the weaponry that you gave them shooting up their own population and there was a really good time to go and try and sell them some. i can't imagine what damage when people see british weaponry in the hands of the people who are invading. the moment reports also say the government misjudged the risk of selling arms to countries like egypt and bahrain but many would go much further one of the things you see this occur it's a risk to the british aid around the world over the last ten years has been the provision of this highly militarized security sector so exactly the opposite of what we're trying to stimulate them and see we are providing the means by which those countries regimes can come tell them democracy since the violence began more than a thousand people have been killed in libya and dozens killed and a thousand injured in bahrain circumst

east and on american policy in the middle east. and as we think about how to deal with the winter of arab discontent and the spring of arab revolutions is seminal works on the iranian revolution and americans' response to it are well worth taking another look at. we have seen remarkable events in the last 100 days in the arab world. first in tunisia, then in egypt, now libya, yemen, bahrain, syria and i could go on and on. there is a full day's worth of discussions here. i'm going to focus, though, on the impact of egypt, on events in egypt and on what they mean for american foreign policy. i should begin by saying a word about the title. stability is, of course, is the "s" word to egyptian revolutionaries. stability has been the code word for repression, for dictatorship for the last 30 years in egypt. they are quite right in saying that. but we also have an interest in trying to see how the change will impact on stability. so with apologies to the egyptian revolutionaries, i think we should proceed forward. there are many ways to

as waves of public rage sweep through north africa and the middle east world powers jump on that as many analysts say in an attempt to direct the waves of unrest in a way that's most favorable for them in libya forging relationship with the opposition so that if gadhafi goes their people there to do business with syria popular wrath gather steam some experts say western powers might see the advantages of getting involved there to. these three countries iran and syria are the main countries that will not align themselves with the magical to the global power elites or the western powers interested objectives in more power for good in the middle east as for example egypt will do or used to do with hosni mubarak and definitely kuwait saudi arabia syria is iran's closest ally in the region and the cost to support the remark in syria after income was mentions of you ran syria is obviously a strategic ally for ran in the in the region and without syria iran loses their their bridge their land bridge to lebanon and they're hit hezbollah in force and so of course hezbollah would suffer if the syr

she focuses on the middle east and south asia. so thank you to you both for being here. brian katulis to you first, we heard these bahrai saying they think the u.s. is treatinging what is going on in the middle east differently that it is promoting deming october see, pushing for democracy in libya, in egypt. but it's been much less agressive in bahrain, are they right about that? >> of course they're right. and of course i think the white house is correct in how it's operating here. they have a difficult balancing actment and i think president obama has been quite clear on his speech in libya, that there wasn't going to be a cookie cutter, one size fits all approach. dennis mcdonough said that our actions in libya should not be viewed as setting expectations or precedence about how we approach these. because this is the traditional clash between values and interest. and in bahrain, you know, if there was a priority of our policy in the middle east before these uprisings, it was containing iranian influence. and there was a perception that one of these pillars of contain

i've interviewed many muslim brotherhood leaders and members in the middle east and outside the middle east and said the movements history and read widely in writing davis keith entries and ideologues. i want to use my five minutes to speak about the muslim brotherhood and post ibaraki chip. but before beginning, i do want to say chairman myrick i've watched two of your videos on the moose on brotherhood and i have two reactions to that. the first is i think you are concerned with the muslim brotherhood will implement sharia law or further the cause here in the united states gives far too much credit to the brotherhood and not enough to our american culture and institutions, which i think is prudent durability in the face of all kinds of great challenges if communism was backed by a world superpower could make no dent in our armor, i hardly think the muslim brotherhood, which is an organization of popularity in the muslim world which is no great power behind it can. as a scholar, but also somebody who's lived in the middle east and the west, i know well what the islamists and what they

we should not be in the middle east. these people leave their and come here and cannot even build a mosque. as far as the economy, america is not broke. it is all b.s. it is greed versus greed. for example, every time the gas price rises, they should rise the cost of living or pay me more money. every time we want to get into conflict -- i guarantee you, if we start drafting people, we will get out of all of these conflicts. if gas prices of penny and we have to pay every employee more money, gas prices will come down. we have no gas situation. it is speculators sitting there with computers. host: we have a lot on the table. thank you for calling in. guest: i think on gas prices, you have a multitude of factors. the events in the middle east. one issue is the improvement in the global economy. what happens is, when the economy gets better, people are consuming more energy. that typically drives up prices. you also have a situation in terms of the decrease in domestic drilling, which is also a factor. it is not just about

the new york what role of a plane in the middle east -- what role are they playing in the middle east? guest: it has been extraordinary what qatar has done. al jazeera has played a role in the arab world. they have the the u.s. military presence. they have decided that for many -- they have contributed to an opening of discussion and dialogue in the arab world. it is an important thing. they have also avoided being involved in the unrest that you've seen elsewhere. host: we're talking about co- authors of this new book. we're talking about the new book and also the unrest in the middle east and northern africa. mike is a democrat. are you there? oops. i think we'll have to wait to see who else calls and. in.to see who else calls an caller: you folks are extremely knowledgeable and i appreciate your time. what i like to know and i've been trying to find out, where is -- need the palestinians -- would need another hanan. was an excellent representative. we need her. guest: she's still very prominent in palestinian society, but less so on the international stage. she was a leading spokes

>> in most middle east countries there are elements of al qaeda. it doesn't mean they are part of the government. doesn't mean they are the majority. doesn't mean they have major influences in the country in which they reside but, yes, it's a concern. we know they're there. they in the past the libyan al qaeda element provided fighters in iraq to target u.s. citizens. that didn't mean it was part of the libyan government. 140 tribes. 30 of which are politically active. we need to know a lot more before we give them advanced weapons. >> would you like to see arab special forces unit in a lead role rather than the cia on the ground? >> special forces and intelligence collection are two different things. special forces on the ground are designed to go and hit targets and causing some chaos if you will for the enemy. if arab league is putting those types of forces on the ground, the rebels could certainly use that help and support from the arab league. i think what you see now amongst rebels is better organization. one of the good things that's happene

while several of them have been swept away by popular revolutions across the middle east and north africa for decades they cling to power with u.s. support and the help of dc's k. street home to the biggest and most powerful lobbying firms in the world capable of transforming libyan leader moammar gadhafi from this mad dog of the middle east as a. revolution to a partner in talks ties between. take over our last term in recent years perhaps the best cinderella tale i'm k.-street is that of oil rich equitorial getting denounced as one of the most repressive regimes in the world for its torture extrajudicial killings and political prisoners teodoro yang brought to power in a military coup thirty years ago and claiming to have been elected by ninety seven percent of voters in two thousand and nine recently dropped one million dollars to hire lobbyists many davis davis was former president bill clinton's lawyer during his impeachment proceedings and enjoys close ties with secretary of state hillary clinton in his days and came here for years and finally. to endure and. went from despise the o

i think it's not going to bring democracy to the middle east to have u.s. british and french deliberate intervention to destabilize the region is not going to bring anything let alone democracy i think this is a massive upheaval an attempt at what some people in washington call creative destruction i think is very uncreative and they simply want to grab the oil and they want to grab the wealth of the sovereign wealth funds that are some of the biggest capital sources on earth today put them under direct london and new york control thanks very much indeed author of a century of war anglo-american oil politics and the new world order joining us live in frankfurt thank you time thank you. but it's now a just a few hours to go before barack obama is expected to announce big changes to his national security team he said to be preparing to bring in a new defense secretary head of the cia commander in afghanistan and a new ambassador to kabul u.s. army colonel an experiment and right says washington still stuck in a bush era military mentality it's the recycling o

continuing on rest in the middle east means continuing bad news for oil prices today oil futures jumped to their highest level in two and a half years with brant crude passing one hundred twenty dollars a barrel gas prices in the u.s. average three dollars and sixty six cents today and that's up almost thirty percent with this time last year so can we expect these prices to keep going up or could factors aside from a settling down to libya help things like obama's promise of more offshore drilling here in the u.s. and b.p. already apply for more of those calls contracts are discussed with me as our correspondent laura lister lauren very happy to have you back in the d.c. studio you are new york now one hundred twenty dollars a barrel for crude that's definitely not a small job but it's not cheap opec on one hand has said that they don't feel the need to have a meeting of these are extraordinary measures but we do know that the u.s. has its own oil reserves that the president could tap into that he needed to but i mean how high would the price up to go in order for that to happen well so

the new york what role of a plane in the middle east -- what role are they playing in the middle east? guest: it has been extraordinary what qatar has done. al jazeera has played a role in the arab world. they he the the u.s. military presence. they have decided that for many -- they have contributed to an opening of discussion and dialogue in the arab world. it is an important thing. they have also avoided being involved in the unrest that you've seen elsewhere. host: we're talking about co- authors of this new book. we're talking about the new bk and also the unrest in the middle east and northern africa. mike is a democrat. are you there? oops. i think we'll have to wait to see who else calls and. in.to see who else calls an caller: you folks are extremely knowledgeable and i appreciate your time. what i like to know and i've been trying to find out, where is -- need the palestinians -- wod ed another hanan. was an excellent representative. we need her. guest: she's still very prominent in palestinian society, but less so on the international stage. she was a leading spokesperson i

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east and in china and meanwhile u.s. corporations put up those firewalls to do business in countries that censor the internet do you see an irony there i don't i mean corporations aren't are beholden to capitalism never holding to their shareholders i would expect them to just couto to whatever us government policy as well but we see a relationship and we've seen as for squad some time between the u.s. intelligence agencies and google and others obviously they they know who butters their bread and they're going to do the what the agency asked them to do or in the military the pentagon so you can put out the fire walls and take them down it depends on the situation i would say that the u.s. right now would be very interested in creating a firewall on bahrain for example i really want to say more u.s. corporations already censor the internet and leave the government behind oh absolutely absolutely where we want to support that regime because we have a huge naval base there and want to keep it there same thing with saudi ar