will never go to war without an fbi contingent. >> guest: and so after 9/11 you have fbi agents on the ground in afghanistan, in iraq that the fbi now has agents deployed in 80 countries overseas, most of them not in war zones, obviously, but that the fbi has grown this huge international presence such that the bureau now has an overseas force that's about a tenth of the size of the entire u.s. foreign service. >> host: 202-585-3885 is our phone number for you to join in the conversation as we talk about the role of the fbi and specifically this profile contained in the book of robert mueller, the fbi director, finishing up his ten-year term. also great history of the earlier years with j. edgar hoover inside this book if you are an officionado of that period of time in american history. mountain and pacific time zone 202 585-3886. before we do more detail on what the fbi role has become, how did this book come about? >> guest: it actually grew out of a piece i had written in 2008 profiling director mueller. as i said, he's kept this remarkably low profile. he gives very few interviews

i mean, that's where you wanted to be if you were an fbi agent. so it's only natural that john o'neill, who's-- you know, his whole life was the fbi, from what i could see-- would want to be in new york. >> narrator: in the new york office, they were still piecing together the evidence in the 1993 world trade center bombing. they'd also had new information that bin laden had been involved in the shooting down of two american black hawk helicopters in somalia. the confession of captured al qaeda member jamal ahmed al fadl told of osama bin laden's efforts to develop chemical weapons, buy weapons-grade uranium, and to spread the al qaeda network into europe. o'neill was becoming obsessed, haunted by the specter of bin laden. >> my dad had a lot of video of osama bin laden. whatever was out there was actually in his apartment. he studied him several times. watched the videos, i know, several times. >> he would watch videotapes. he would read whatever material he could get his hands on. we had a fax in the house. people would fax him information all t

check out the fbi website. we run internship programs for individuals, sometimes early as high school, people through years of college work summers in the fbi to get experience in the fbi, give us a chance to assess them. look at the website and pursue a college degree if he wants to be a special agent. many agents have eight to nine years of experience. we hire directly out of college and some out of high school. >> host: thank you very much for being here. >> guest: greta, thanks very much. >> a live picture on your screen from the politics and prose bookstore here in washington, d.c.. just a moment or two away from a discussion with don peck, a long term look at the corm and cultural impact of the economic recession. live coverage getting underway here now on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible

it was so shocking that the fbi would give me this that an fbi agent assigned to public affairs and was in on one of these interviews actually interjected and said, are you sure we can be giving him this? he or she is questioning the third ranking official in the fbi about whether this material could actually be given to me. another thing they do is create a phony bush. they will go behind the bush and towards the front door of a house and -- >> come on, come on. that's like the "road runner." >> they will. also they go to elevator school in order to learn how to take control of an elevator. so they go into an office building to bug one of the suites and ride up on top of the elevator and in the middle of the night get off. put the bugs in. they get back on the elevator, ride up and down and go out in the morning dressed in business suits. r this publication it was damn good one. those are pretty tall tales that you're telling that apparently are not so tall after all. amazing journalism. interested to get the balance of this, mr. kessler. incredible storytelling on your part and, again

profilers in the fbi? guest: stuff we talked about continues to grow. with dna, this stuff came on the scene in the 1980's and we needed a big splotch of blood or semen before they could do any sort of analysis. now it is microscopic or sub- microscopic. ng things, you cannot even see it but it is a their bread is refining the techniques and being more discriminating in our ability to find these things. host: we are showing our viewers toxicology. what does that mean, and how does that help? guest: is used in an autopsy. i took the case last year. a woman died of unexplained causes in cleveland, ohio. she got sick. when the investigation developed, nothing was determined to be the cause of death. there is the normal toxicology screen that was run and nothing came up. information developed that she may have been poisoned by potassium cyanide. we did a cycle -- we did it talks logical testing and we found out she had nine times the lethal amount of cyanide in her system. she had been poisoned. that led to he

the fbi, what lessons with the business world do well to learn from the fbi? guest: it is mission-driven. every business needs to find what is the mission they can get employees excited and motivated behind. our mission is to keep the country safe. we do that all while we all called the american civil liberties and protect constitutional rights. the mission that is what allows us to attract the best and key people excited. every business should think about what is our mission. host: i want to look at the fbi budget request for 8.9 billion. -- $8.1 billion. $81 million is in construction. 131.5 million for program 181 cements, and about new positions. three intelligence analysts seems like an odd number. how do you go about asking congress i need three of these guys and 87 of these guys? gee, it is convoluted. -- guest: it is a convoluted. three might not have been our initial request, but we will have the best we can find. we are asking for more efficiencies on the inside. if we can save money through the work we do in the resource planning office, we can then

did the fbi catch all the suspects? did the fbi let one of them walk? and did the fbi make a mistake putting blame on a pizza delivery man whose secrets blew up in a parking lot. >> it was a hot thursday afternoon. jean hyde was expecting to see her brother at a party that night, but she had on er rand to run, a quick shopping trip on peach street. but there was trouble. police had blocked the road. cops and cars everywhere. she turned around and went home. it was only later that night, watching the 10:00 news, she learned what that traffic was all about. >> my kids are sitting on the couch and then the story airs of a bank robbery. and a man came into the bank a bomb on him. >> you are recognizing -- >> my brother sitting there with a bomb on him. and i'm thing, the police have him. they'll find out who did this to him. then as it goes on, it is like, brian exploded. the bomb went off. brian is dead. and i'm like, i can't believe this. >> after the explosion, one of the first things the cops did was look inside his car. and they found these. meticulous

the fbi, counter-terrorism, and the patriot that guest: it does not change the fbi's jurisdiction. we do not go into anyone's home without a warrant. a search warrant will get you in, so will a court order, based on probable cause. in the national security are been a, you have to have foreign intelligence surveillance court, with probable cause, to move forward and gain entry. the fbi is not breaking into homes, willy-nilly, and it is not seizing anything willy- nilly. caller: in my opinion, let me say this, i live in washington, d.c., when he was in the thing, 1968 through 1972. the fbi infiltrated all of the peace movements, the school that i went to, i would not trust the fbi if they told me of water was wet. i will tell you why. if they were serious about protecting this country, they would cover the southern border. 30 million people are walking across and no one has detected anything? 30 million people walking across that border? who else is coming in? host: someone writes in -- guest: people distrust the government in times when things are tough. a major terrorist attack, pe

on wednesday, key programs on the fbi -- of the fbi. today we begin the series with ronald kessler, author of the new book "the secrets of the fbi." the first chapter is about the tactical operations unit. what is that? guest: it is a euphemism for bugging and wire-tapping. about 20% of the book is devoted to this. i could not believe the fbi would give me this. in my first interview on the subject with the person in charge, and wondered if he the one of us would be arrested -- i wondered if either one of us would be arrested. someone questioned whether the third-ranking fbi agents should be giving me this. i am still amazed. when someone asks me how i get them to talk, i usually say that i would water board them and that worked well. host: has this unit been around for a long time? guest: in terms of the sophistication and size and this particular name, it has been in recent years. they break into homes, offices, and even indices -- embassies to plant bugging devices without getting caught and shot as burglars. in an embassy, they coul

wedne wednesday the programs sdof the fbi -- of the fbi. today we begin the series with ronald kessler, author of the new book "the secrets of the fbi." the first chapter is about the tactical operations unit. what is that? guest: it is a euphemism for bugging and wire-tapping. about 20% of the book is devoted to this. i could not believe the fbi would give me this. in my first interview on the subject with the person in charge, and wondered if he the one of us would be arrested -- i wondered if either one of us would be arrested. someone questioned whether the third-ranking fbi agents should be giving me this. i am still amazed. when someone asks me how i get them to talk, i usually say that i would water board them and that worked well. host: has this unit been around for a long time? guest: in terms of the sophistication and size and this particular name, it has been in recent years. they break into homes, offices, and even indices -- embassies to plant bugging devices without getting caught and shot as burglars. in an embassy, they coul

the fbi, counter-terrorism, and the patriot that guest: it does not change the fbi's jurisdiction. we do not go into anyone's home without a warrant. a search warrant will get you in, so will a court order, based on probable cause. in the national security are been a, you have to have foreign intelligence surveillance court, with probable cause, to move forward and gain entry. the fbi is not breaking into homes, willy-nilly, and it is not seizing anything willy- nilly. caller: in my opinion, let me say this, i live in washington, d.c., when he was in the thing, 1968 through 1972. the fbi infiltrated all of the peace movements, the school that i went to, i would not trust the fbi if they told me of water was wet. i will tell you why. if they were serious about protecting this country, they would cover the southern border. 30 million people are walking across and no one has detected anything? 30 million people walking across that border? who else is coming in? host: someone writes in -- guest: people distrust the government in times when things are tough. a major terrorist attack, pe

don't talk to the fbi. although ciar removed the poster once the media reported on it it reflects a larger and troubling pattern. when the terrorism commission legislation was moving in 1998 and ciar's own words asked muslims to contact leaders of the house senate committee and urge them to amend or eliminate the new legislation that would create a national commission on terrorism this was not successful. regrettably the recommendations sent to congress in june of 2000 were generally ignored until 9/11 when 3,000 people were killed including 2 dozen from my congressional district. let me be clear. terror -- ciar is counterproductive and hurting the american muslim community. i raise concerns because we are to successfully counter domestic radicalization law enforcement will need the active engagement of the muslim community. i have a recommendation to address the challenge of domestic radicalization head on. i commend the fbi director robert muller and all men of the fbi and others for the outstanding work

the fbi today searched his connecticut home. officials say shizad told them he acted alone but that he recently learned how to make bombs in his native pakistan. >> we always have to be vigilant because in the eyes of terrorists, new york is america. and they want to come back to kill us. >> as americans and as a nation we will not be terrorized. we will not cower in fears, we will not be intimidated. >> reporter: it was two street vendors that alerted authorities. >> president obama called me. what was the best is he did not let the secretary call me, he called me which made my day. >> reporter: shizad bought a one way plane ticket using cash. >> you and i can buy the ingredients we need to make a bomb, we don't but others will. >> reporter: prosecutors released video of an fbi test that showed what might have happened the previous may if that car bomb in time square had exploded. according to court documents the test used the exact same materials found in the incident including 250 pounds of amonium nitrate all inside an suv.

what is not surprising to me about this is that the fbi has a new suspect. this happens all of the time in this case. there has been over 1,000 suspects an persons of interest. >> people have confessed, they just made up stories. >> there are a lot of db coopers out there. but what is unique is that the fbi has passed along a fi fingerprint sample, but that is different, but from my reporting the forensic evidence that the fbi completed from the plane, itself, is not great and partial and a lot of of reason to doubt that it could actually be matched to secure, close the deal once and for all that this is the guy. >> as i point out, this is a frag fragment of a fingerprint, and do we know how or why they discovered it in the first place? >> well, we do. when this plane landed in reno november 24th, 1971, the fbiing as dusted all of the plane and the dusted the bathroom and the walls and what they found was a lot of fingerprints and a lot of people on the plane. they looked at the inflight magazine and found at lot of partial fingerprints and believed that the

specifically one that the fbi should be taken out of the domestic and mi5 created. i'd like your comment how well prepared we are ten years later and specifically whether the fbi has over come that hurdle or you still would recommend that? >> a third recommendation without of the wmd commission or finding inspite of all of the thing that is we have done to improve our security since 9/11, that our adversaries have been moving at even a faster pace. therefore, the margin of safety has been declining. not enlarging a sense of 9/11. as to the fbi, i personally continue to feel that like most of the countries in the world, including the countries that are reputed to have the best intelligence services, such as the israelis, and uk, that we would be well served if we had a separate agency that was assigned singularly to domestic intelligence as opposed to having the fbi take that on. and there are a number of reasons. i guess the most immediate reason is just competence. we found the number of instances significant number of the 12 were instances where the culture of the

the fbi is continuing to say that they will block full enforcement. we were surprised last week to learn that during the update of your various priorities that there was some discussion of this topic. we appreciate the dedication to these issues. we have provided them with answers. we have had our conversation and kept them updated. we were stunned to see last week, i am going to quote the chief, there is no portland resolution. i am not sure the source of his information. that has the mayor of's signature on it if you need it. the attorney that signed off on it is not allowed to do so. it was not and the assistant u.s. attorney. it was the u.s. attorney. that was the top federal judge for oregon. he was not transferred. he is still there. i checked today. we quoted his press release back in may. if you like a copy of this press release, here it is for all of you endorsing the resolution. he is a top federal official in oregon. he testified at the hearing in february before the portland city council with the general counsel for the fbi. the top lawyer

which is -- c-span: where the fbi, was the fbi racist? >> guest: absolutely. absolutely. and the higher political regions. see, i think there's a very -- i have some fbi characters in here who are heroes but most -- c-span: like? give me -- >> guest: like joe sullivan. the man who sold several of the case is -- down in st. augustine, florida, which is one of the unsung stories of this purpose. and then he went over to mississippi. he was the model for the inspector earthshine on the long-running fbi serious. and then he was a no-nonsense, and like most of the agents they don't go in there with a ambition to do political work which means listening to your friends and planning propaganda and going around prying into people's lives. the dillinger solve cases. so you have a -- a delicious or a painful conflict running in this era. you have the most spectacular political misuses of the fbi going on at the same time as the fbi is trying to solve new kinds of crime and confronting the klan down in south at that time when they were almost -- attw

profilers in the fbi? guest: stuff we talked about continues to grow. with dna, this stuff came on the scene in the 1980's and we needed a big splotch of blood or semen before they could do any sort of analysis. now it is microscopic or sub- microscopic. ng things, you cannot even see it but it is a their bread is refining the techniques and being more discriminating in our ability to find these things. host: we are showing our viewers toxicology. what does that mean, and how does that help? guest: is used in an autopsy. i took the case last year. a woman died of unexplained causes in cleveland, ohio. she got sick. when the investigation developed, nothing was determined to be the cause of death. there is the normal toxicology screen that was run and nothing came up. information developed that she may have been poisoned by potassium cyanide. we did a cycle -- we did it talks logical testing and we found out she had nine times the lethal amount of cyanide in her system. she had been poisoned. that led to he

color abuse is one of the died lines of the fbi? -- what the guidelines of the fbi? guest: correct. caller: then why are there so many shootings of black persons in our communities that cannot be justified and no one from the federal government has been prosecuted? none of these police officers from the u.s. attorney's office? guest: prosecutions have been done. one is to protect the national security of the united states. the biggest dog in the ring is counter-intelligence. the next is to preserve civil liberties. when we look at the civil liberties, it is important to look at how we are doing that. that is done very aggressively in every field office. host: democratic caller. detroit, michigan. you are next. caller: good morning. what i would like to ask up in detroit, michigan, in our newspaper they have pictures of terrorists and that we should be on the lookout for. they came into our office. we all called the fbi and said that they have to watch the planes. also, they were caught at 4:00 in the morning. 3:00 or 4:00. they were let go. host: what is your -- caller: what they sa

we will complete our series on the fbi, today's fbi, looking at cyber security. we will be right back with governor daniels. >> the july 20 un declaration of famine in somalia was not made lightly and reflects the dire conditions of the people. is based on nutrition and mortality surveys. on the basis of the data verified, we estimate that in the last 90 days, 29,000 somali children have died. nearly 4% of the children in southern somalia. our fear is that the famine conditions in those two regions will spread to encompass the entire eight regions of somalia. even if they are good, we could bear witness to another wave of mortalities in the south due to water-borne diseases. >> watch more of this hearing at the c-span radio library. >> in a city that averages 250 murders a year, a former detective and investigative reporter take on the tough questions -- why do we callebs? it is one of the books which are featuring -- why do we kill? it is one of the books we are featuring this weekend. steve brill talks to a former education secretary. get the complete schedule

the fbi says he didn't show up. after waiting two days, the mother called authorities for help and an amber alert was issued. >> he wasn't using a cell phone or credit cards. >> reporter: investigators believe that the toddler may be in danger but would not elaborate. >> he may be a danger to himself or maybe to madelyne. if that is the case, i will always err on the side of caution to get the proper notices and investigative resources out there to track him down. >> reporter: 2-year-old madelyne is not in danger says the family, saying that he's a great father. his brother says this could be about custody. his brother wants shared custody of his daughter, not just visitation rights. something he says his brother deserves. families say they're divorced. the girl is 2'8", and has brown hair and brown eyes. the father is 5'6", 160 unders. he is a u.s. citizen, driving a green 1998 toyota forerunner with this license plate. investigators say the pair already have a five-day lead and they want to find them. the fbi is a

one of the greatest fbi mysteries of all time. the new witnesses who may finally solve the amazing d.b. cooper case. the only unsolved hijacking in american history. >>> and glimpse of heaven. our bob woodruff and others shining a light on what they say happened when they almost died and then returned. >>> good evening tonight. the heat across america is claiming more e d more casualties. at least 100 people have died and, as we said, emergency rooms are overrun with people reeling and seeking help. 165 million americans across 18 states are under the crushing dome of heat and humidity. temperatures topping 110 degrees. and all told, 2,700 heat records were smashed in july and still more are being broken in august. abc's abbie boudreau is in dallas tonight, where it topped 100 degrees for the 32nd day in a row, and she tells us, young athletes are in special danger. >> reporter: heat this intense sends 6,000 people a year to emergency rooms across the untry. young people are especially at risk. the cdc calling heat illness during

later, the fbi is still searching. over the years, more than 1,000 suspects have been scrutinized and several phony death bed confessions. it began in 1961 with a passenger calling himself dan cooper, threatening to blow up this airplane. he escaped somewhere over washington state. cooper and a ransom of $200,000 in cash parachuted into history. vanishing into thin air. no one knows if the hijacker sur viefd. some believe db cooper was inspired by dan cooler. the fbi does it a new lead from a credible source, which points to a possible new suspect. the item obtained is being tested for fingerprints by the fbi lab. a that might prove difficult. >> when the happened, the era of dna was not upon us and agents really don't out to preserve this evidence in the way that we do now. >> still this may be the best clue since 1980, when an 8-year- old boy in washington state discovered nearly $6,000 in cash during a family picnic. >> my son ran up and said wait a minute, daddy. he raked a place out in the sand and there it was. >

with my fbi background, it started in 1995 in the cleveland office of the fbi in terms of the public-private partnership where companies, not just aviation sector, but across the board could share information in a trusted client type of setting online where if, for example, there had been a cyberattack on xyz company, they could share what the method of attack was, if there's attribution where the attack came from, and things like that without identifying who xyz company is so others could learn from that and take precautionary steps, so that's the model that this question is referring to they worked very well at least from my perspective, and the feedback, i think there are many models like that in public-private realm, and the question becomes from a tsa perspective, is there information that can be used by us collaboratively that helps inform our decisions as to the best possible security provided most first timely, so that's why we've come back to. >> uh-huh. chris? >> sharing of information has improved significantly over the years, and tsa sponsors, as nick mentioned, industry represen

fbi changed the paradigm for help fbi investigations were conducted with the focus on prevention. >> we will leap forward to tsa. you spent your fbi career trying to catch the bad guys. at tsa it is much more preventative. you hope to never have an incident. can you talk about that transition? >> the fbi changed after 9/11 to become more preventative to make sure another 9/11 did not happen. they have been working across national and international communities. that had changed in the fbi post-9/11. the mission at tsa is similar, focusing on prevention, but also the idea of the resiliency aspect of that in case there is another attack. it is the same with natural disasters or anything else. >> their previously had been criticism of the tsa not having a big enough work force or one that was not trained enough and the money was not being put into the resources that you needed to safely say that everybody was secure as they traveled. is that the case now? >> i think there are many ways than tsa and the department of homeland security and the fbi and other agencies can go about their work

i would hope all law enforcement officials follow the lead of the fbi director. al qaeda realizes that the measures we put in place over the last 9 years make it very difficult to launch a large-scale attack against our homeland from outside the country which is why they altered their strategy and using people living legally in the united states. these include new york city subway bomber and u.s. army maj hassan , and whose father is a witness today and dozens of individuals associated with the somali terrorist organization out of bob --al shaabab. . let me thank the witnesses for giving up their valuable time to be with us today and special thanks to mr. bledsoe. these brave men have endured suffering no one should go through. their courage and spirit will put a human face on the court islamic replicas -- radicalization inflect on good families especially those in the muslim community unless we put aside political correctness and the fine who are enemy is. as we approach the ten year anniversary of the september 11th attacks we cannot allow the memory of that tr

i know the fbi can't either. can you give me a timeline when they may know definitively based upon evidence that they have and you provided if, in fact, this man, was your uncle d.b. cooper? >> they may never be able to prove it, brooke. >> really. >> in order to prove it they have to place him on the plane. he has been gone since 1999. to find a fingerprint of his that's still in existence would be really hard to do. the fbi told me that there were no fingerprints as part of his military record. he had been arrested once for some minor, i don't know what it was he had been arrested for at some point a long time ago and there were no fingerprints with that. and his wife, his widow has something of his, possibly his letter working tools because he was pretty -- >> a coligrapher. >> he crafted many things. maybe his leather-working tools are there and i know the fbi is going back to his widow to see if there's anything that has a fingerprint that they could -- >> have you talked to his widow? do you know her? >> no

. >> sacramento fbi says he not only has friends here in the bay area, but what they call resources. he would want to quote, avail himself of, but won't elaborate on what that means. instead, you're looking at the last recorded images of samen and his two-year-old daughter, madeleine, at a grocery checkout in sacramento. that was last saturday morning. it's also the same day the fbi tells cbs 5 he was notified he lost custody of his daughter following a bitter divorce. but the girl's mother did not report her missing until tuesday, telling the fbi it was not uncommon for her ex-husband to return the girl late following a visit. after three days of searching his home in this upscale sacramento neighborhood, his job and acquaintances, the fbi believes this case is fraught with danger because he has gone, what they call, dark. >> he wasn't using a cell phone. he wasn't using credit cards and considering a child of tender years of two years of age, we thought it was necessary to issue an endangered advisory. >> but family members down played danger. instead believing he wants what he was

it's also the same day the fbi tells cbs 5samen was notified he lost custody of his daughter. the girl's mother did not report her missing until tuesday, telling the fbi it was not uncommon for her ex-husband to return the girl late following a visit. but after three days of searching his home in this upscale sacramento neighborhood, his job and acquaintances, the fbi believes this case is fraught with danger because he has gone dark. >> he wasn't using his cell phone. he wasn't using credit cards and considering a child of tender years of two years of age, we thought it was necessary to issue an endangered missing advisory that went out to 600 different agencies through the state of california. >> family members down play danger, instead believe he wants what he was denied, custody. >> he's an excellent father. he walked her several times that i have seen. very great father image. very close. very protective. >> he is 5'6". weighs 160-pounds with black hair and brown eyes. madeleine is 2'8", 28-pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. >> the fbi goes on to say that he is drivin

the fbi believes she was abducted by her father and they may be here in the bay area. don knapp on what happened that may have led the father to take off with his daughter. don. >> reporter: the most common case of child abduction is a parent taking a child usually in a bitter child custody dispute. in this case authorities believe this child's life is in danger. concern continues to grow for the safety of a 2-year-old girl last seen with her in a sacramento supermarket on saturday, august 6th. both father an daughter have disappeared and the fbi says both could be in danger. >> he may be a danger to himself or maybe even to the child. >> reporter: the father learned over the weekend that he had lost his part of the joint custody arrangement he had with his wife. the court granted the mother full custody. the father is believed to be drying a green toyota forerunner. the child has brown hair and eyes. when the girl was not returned by tuesday the ex-wife went to the police. >> it is not uncommon that he is a day or two late. she felt waiting a day or two was not a big

the fbi seized the diamond during an undercover investigation. so if anyone's looking for any, you know, christmas gifts for me or anything, that could maybe fit the bill. >>> charlie's angels icon is being immortalized in plastic. check out the farrah fawcett barbie doll. featuring her feathered hair. fawcett passed away in 2009 after a long battle with cancer. >>> looks like it's going to be a lovely day around the bay area once these low clouds and fog burn off. roberta says that's going to happen. little bit afternoon and we're going to see sunshine all around. if you're heading out, should be lovely. inland, going to make it up into the mid-80s today. thanks for making early weekend edition part of your saturday. starting off our weekend, our next newscast is at 5:30 this afternoon. i'll be back for that. i'll be back here as well tomorrow. enjoy your saturday. t list for saturday morning news, xxx call x8689 before 8am 86 after 8am ,,,,,,,,

cooper, criminal the fbi has been hunting for 40 years. the ht has a credible lead, the man who called himself d.b. cooper hijacked an airliner over washington state in november 1971, parachuted from the plane with $200,000 in ransom money and was never seen again. an fbi spokeswoman says an item belonging to a possible suspect is undergoing forensic testing, called a promising lead but investigators caution that they have not yet cracked the case. >>> coming up your weather on this monday morning. >>>? ports one of the very best in baseball flirts with another no hitter in detroit. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil now and maybe up to four in a day. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. way to go, coach. ♪ ♪ today is saturday ♪ salad on saturday ♪ fruit on friday ♪ throw a ball thursday ♪ water, water wednesday ♪ touch your toes tuesday ♪ ♪ let's move monday ♪ swap a snack sunday announcer: 60 minutes of physical activity a da

the fbi will not officially comment. but sources familiar with the case said marla cooper prompted the latest flurry of investigation. robin? >> pierre, you talked to her mother. what did she tell you? >> reporter: yeah, we talked to her mother last night. and she basically confirmed that she was telling her daughter just a year or so ago that she thought that the uncle, l.d. cooper was, in fact, d.b. cooper. >> all right, pierre. we'll have more from you in our next half hour. >>> joining us live is "gma" legal analyst dan abrams. so, if this lead really does pan out to be true, it's huge for the fbi. >> remember, this is the only history. hijacking in u.s. every other one they know who did it, et cetera. so, this would be enormous. but it's also because, as pierre pointed out in his piece, this has the makings of a movie. the whole story about parachuting out the back, never being able to find him with all the money, clues left as this investigation has gone on. so, certainly the fbi is saying publicly thahathis is not

the fbi stopped its investigation as well. for patricia phillips, not having any answers was little comfort. and being on the boat only clouded her feelings about what miles claimed. >> i don't see how it could have possibly happened according to his story. >> the explanation that makes most sense to investigators, that miles planned the murders and hoped to escape to a new life abroad with his brother's money and identity, is unthinkable to his father. >> i just can't even begin to put it together, to understand how it could happen, as far as premeditation, that's not even a question, that's not possible. >> but it was the physical traces of her children on the boat that pierced their mother's heart. >> i started removing what remained of miles' and brian's personal things. the sense of putting my children in body bags and dumping them in the garbage. it was very, very disturbing. it was heart wrenching. it was -- in a way, it made their death more real than anything else has. and i thought it was already real to me. >> what'

when they went through the records, the fbi said it was more like $1.5 million. the giants released a statement yesterday saying, "we're working with the federal authorities to ensure this matter is thoroughly investigated and that any wrongdoing is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law." she has two federal charges against her and is expected in court on september 30. she is no longer working for the giants organization, needless to say. >> not surprised. thank you, anne makovec live at the ballpark this morning. >>> a date set for barry bonds to be sentenced for obstruction of justice, on december 16. bonds was convicted on one count in his federal perjury trial back in i'm he could get up to 10 years, but federal guidelines actually call for 15 to 21 months. and by the way, the judge in the case has sentenced other athletes in similar cases to just home confinement with no jail time. >>> after nearly a year, federal investigators say pg&e is largely at fault for that deadly pipeline explosion in san bruno. the ntsb says a power outage caused a pipeline t

the one big case where the fbi did not get their man. marla cooper says she now remembers s conversation with her father before he died in 1995, that she didn't fully understand at the time. >> my father made a comment about his long lost brother, my uncle l.d., and said that he thought he was still alive, but hiding from the fbi. and i questioned why he would be hiding, and he said, "don't you remember, he hijacked that airplane?" a couple of years ago, my mother made a similar comment. >> reporter: why have you decided to come forward? >> actually, i contacted the fbi as soon as i was sure of what i was remembering were real memories. there's a crime that's taken place that hasn't been solved and i'm the only person, as far as i know, who knows what happened. >> reporter: marla was 8 at the time of the hijacking. >> my two uncles, who i only saw at holiday time, were planning something very miseconomy vous. they left to go turkey hunting. thanksgiving morning, i was waiting for them to return. >> reporter: the flight was hijacked the n

profilers in the fbi? guest: stuff we talked about continues to grow. with dna, this stuff came on the scene in the 1980's and we needed a big splotch of blood or semen before they could do any sort of analysis. now it is microscopic or sub- microscopic. ng things, you cannot even see it but it is a their bread is refining the techniques and being more discriminating in our ability to find these things. host: we are showing our viewers toxicology. what does that mean, and how does that help? guest: is used in an autopsy. i took the case last year. a woman died of unexplained causes in cleveland, ohio. she got sick. when the investigation developed, nothing was determined to be the cause of death. there the normal toxicology screen that was run and nothing came up. information developed that she may have been poisoned by potassium cyanide. we did a cycle -- we did it talks logical testing and we found out she had nine times the lethal amount of cyanide in her system. she had been poisoned. that led to her h