postal service. if you look at some old maps of america, you see that a lot of the roads that we use today started out as colonial post roads. as our nation pushed west before the railroads were built, the post office created the pony express to keep america connected with its frontiers. and the post office subsidies for air mail in the early days of aviation helped jump-start the fledgling airline industry. through parts of four centuries now the postal system has actually helped make as a nation, connecting the eric and people to one another, moving commerce and culture coast-to-coast and to all points in between. postal service has also bound the individual towns and neighborhoods together with the local post office often serving as the center of civic life. over the years, the post office has grown very large. today the united states postal service is the second-largest employer in the united states, second only to walmart. and with 32,000 post offices, it has more domestic retail outlets than wa

postal service. if you look at some old maps of america, you see that a lot of the roads that we use today started out as colonial post roads. as our nation pushed west before the railroads were built, the post office created the pony express to keep america connected with its frontiers. and the post office subsidies for air mail in the early days of aviation helped jump-start the fledgling airline industry. through parts of four centuries now the postal system has actually helped make as a nation, connecting the eric and people to one another, moving commerce and culture coast-to-coast and to all points in between. postal service has also bound the individual towns and neighborhoods together with the local post office often serving as the center of civic life. over the years, the post office has grown very large. today the united states postal service is the second-largest employer in the united states, second only to walmart. and with 32,000 post offices, it has more domestic retail outlets than wa

be drawn back and returned to the postal service allowing the postal service to pay down their very conservative retirement schedule for the retiree benefits. very conservative approach. but here as i said before the three things the auto industry needed to do. there were three things the postal service needs to do and the question is are we going to let them? i'm not interested in laying off you or anyone else lead off the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of postal the employees but i think that you resist by about a quarter of the last six or seven years that's a lot of people and maybe 200,000 or so you have about another 100,000 folks that will probably leave through attrition and people retire and say that's enough i'm ready to go on with my life and about 120,000 or so who if incentivized would have encouraged to retire would actually encourage or retire and the question is are we going to make sure we have the resources and the cash to incentivize those people but run the numbers and think about this just run the numbers for what it cost to incentivize 120,000 peopl

postal service. if you look at some old maps of america, you see that a lot of the roads that we use today started out as colonial post roads. as our nation pushed west before the railroads were built, the post office created the pony express to keep america connected with its frontiers. and the post office subsidies for air mail in the early days of aviation helped jump-start the fledgling airline industry. through parts of four centuries now the postal system has actually helped make as a nation, connecting the eric and people to one another, moving commerce and culture coast-to-coast and to all points in between. postal service has also bound the individual towns and neighborhoods together with the local post office often serving as the center of civic life. over the years, the post office has grown very large. today the united states postal service is the second-largest employer in the united states, second only to walmart. and with 32,000 post offices, it has more domestic retail outlets than wa

postal service. while magazine deliveries are also down also because of competition with the internet and the recession, 90 percent of all periodicals, about 300 million paid subscriptions per year worth billions of dollars to the publishing and advertising industries and bringing about the employment of millions of people are still delivered by the postal service. only the post office will go that last mile to ensure delivery throughout the country to everyone's address, and even using the grand canyon and snowshoes in alaska. last year, just to show the diversity, and the american people know this, last year the postal service process to over six and a half million passport applications. right now there is no other federal agency with the national presence that is ready or able to take on that task. now, why are we here today? before the homeland security and governmental affairs committee became the homeland security and governmental affairs committee it was the government affairs or government op

i mine, the postal service is big. the postal service, they handle 40% of the world's card and letter mail. pretty big. last year did they bring in any bucks? you better believe they did. they brought in $67 billion in 2010. remember, i want you to know this, zero. they received zero, i repeat, zero tax dollars. but republicans have been on a mission to get rid of it since the year 2006 when they passed an unbelievable lame duck session law. today postal workers and allies are fighting back. we'll talk to the president of the american postal workers union, and i'll tell you how it will hurt america if it survives. stay with us. so what's it going to be? eenie, meanie, miney... or more. shop less. get more. make one call to an allstate agent. our neighbors putting their lives on the line. and when they rely on a battery, there are firefighters everywhere who trust duracell. so, look for these special packs to see how you can help your local volunteers. duracell. trusted everywhere. >>> good to have you back with us toni

called save america's postal service dot org. the postal unions have gotten together and they'll be holding rallies in all 50 states and the district of columbia. you can go on the their web site, save america's postal service dot org. tuesday september 27th. the locations will be announced two days from now. >> stephen: are you sure they're going the happen? what if it rains or sleets or snows at night? >> funny you should mention that. i worked for the post office for 20 years. there were blizzards. there were hurricanes. and we opened a day or two afterwards as most, whereas my internet service provider recently was down for a week in our area code. i was calling india every week, calling tech support trying to find out when i would be hooked up. the post office kept delivering the mail. [cheering and applause] >> stephen: they will be missed. phil rube, you thank you so much for joining me. "there's always work at the post office." we'll be right back. [cheering and applause] i'm really glad we took this last minute trip! you

i mine, the postal service is big. the postal service, they handle 40% of the world's card and letter mail. pretty big. last year did they bring in any bucks? you better believe they did. they brought in $67 billion in 2010. remember, i want you to know this, zero. they received zero, i repeat, zero tax dollars. but republicans have been on a mission to get rid of it since the year 2006 when they passed an unbelievable lame duck session law. today postal workers and allies are fighting back. we'll talk to the president of the american postal workers union, and i'll tell you how it will hurt america if it survives. stay with us. so easy, you just need campbell's cream of mushroom soup to make them and a hungry family to love them. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. and a hungry family to love them. [ boy ] hey, i thought these were electric? uh, it is, yeah, it's a chevy volt. so what are you doing at a gas station? well it still takes gas to go farther. but you're not getting gas. true. not this time. uh, don't

the postal service. you mean to tell me after 235 years of a successful run to helping americans communicate with the truth, all of a sudden this congress back in 2006 is going to decide we're going to change everything? no. it's all about the money, it's all about going after and attacking unions, and it's all about destroying a great institution in this country that they think they're going to be able to privatize later on down the road. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. will republicans be successful in killing the post office? text a for yes, text b for no to 622639. nbc.com will bring you the results later in the show. what can this congress do? we're talking about 125 jobs on the chopping block right now. you heard isa. he thinks it's a human problem. counselor lynch has introduced hr 251 to eliminate the 75-year pension obligation. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be with you, ed. >> i want to make sure america gets this story, be

the postal service turned 200 years old in july. the conventional mail use has dropped precipitously in recent years. volume is down 22% from just five years ago. a decline which is expected to continue. driven in part by stiff competition from carriers such as fed-ex and u.p.s. that's left the agency facing losses of more than $8 billion for the second year in a row. post master general patrick donahoe has responded with a series of cost-cutting proposals. among them, eliminating saturday delivery. and closing up to 3700 local post offices, most of them in small towns. replacing them with automated centers operating out of local businesses. donahoe has also proposed laying off as many as 120,000 workers, nearly one fifth of the agency's work force and pulling workers out of more expensive federal pension plans. pre-funding retiree benefits have cost the local service $21 billion in the last three years. all those moves would require congressional approval. for more on what's at stake for the postal service-- and on whether your mai

be drawn back and returned to the postal service allowing the postal service to pay down their very conservative retirement schedule for the retiree benefits. very conservative approach. but here as i said before the three things the auto industry needed to do. there were three things the postal service needs to do and the question is are we going to let them? i'm not interested in laying off you or anyone else lead off the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of postal the employees but i think that you resist by about a quarter of the last six or seven years that's a lot of people and maybe 200,000 or so you have about another 100,000 folks that will probably leave through attrition and people retire and say that's enough i'm ready to go on with my life and about 120,000 or so who if incentivized would have encouraged to retire would actually encourage or retire and the question is are we going to make sure we have the resources and the cash to incentivize those people but run the numbers and think about this just run the numbers for what it cost to incentivize 120,000 peopl

service to fully funded within a ten year period which means that the postal service is five point five billion dollars you know in the hole before it sells one stamp each year. but it's as outrageous as this is it's not all of what's been done to the postal service. by. congressional mandate the the guy who wrote this legislation tom davis says one of his major lifetime donors tom delay the the floor whip one of you has won his lifetime done major life and honors one of the top four dollars as i recall denny hastert the speaker of the house at the time it was one of his top fifteen donors as i recall of the top twenty might that have something to do with this post like out of the enhanced one act or was this just you know ideology let's just take down the post office or was there some actual general reason to do this. well i think the long term goal of many. people in the planning of this has been to eventually privatized the postal service because they know that it's an essential service even in the internet era and that irked them is that the postal service has six hundred thousand w

future of the postal service. but next, a discussion about washington gridlock. we will be right back. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> now get regular updates on what is on the c-span networks with c-span now on twitter, a quick program information and which event our lives and links to help you watch. it is easy to sign up. it just go to twitter.com/ cspannow. >> he founded several labor unions and represented the socialist party of america as a candidate for president, running five times. the last time from prison. eugene debs lost but the changed political history. one of the 14 men featured in the new weekly series "the contenders." live from his home in indiana, friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. it a preview about him on the special website for the series, c-span.org/thecontenders. >> you should always start with an assumption if a politician or a ceo is saying something, they are not telling you the truth. they may be telling you

postal service. let's begin with how many union workers you represent.. >> guest: we represent approximately 220,000. we have 250 some thousand in about two dozen active right no. we represent the clerks that word for windows, that sort the mail, the drivers, the mechanics, and the maintenance employees. host: there is a lot of debate about the future of the postal service. congressman darrell issa has legislation to reform it. senator john mccain has introduced a companion legislation similar to that legislation. are you willing to make concessions, and what are they? guest: we just went to negotiations and made a lot of compromises. representative lynch has a bill in congress which has 220 code- sponsors, -- co-sponsors, which will reform the post office. on the other side, senator carpenter has introduced legislation that would support the postal service. john mccain's rubberstamp of darrell issa's bill will help destroy the post office and layoff toyota thousand people. host: what are the concess

postal service to the brink of insolvency. a number of things involved, clearly the internet age marked the slow death of the postal service. e-commerce, all sorts of transactions online. prices have not risen, they are not making more money. the postal service does not get anything more than what it owns through the services. and clearly, the recession has brought it to this really rather dire point. >> can the postal service actually compete? >> in order to compete, it has to take some extraordinarily drastic measure. we are presenting a plan to lay off 110,000 people and it wants to double that figure. a large chunk of that will be through redundancies. that has the unions up in arms. it is completely counter to the relationship with the union that has existed in the past. it means the closure of 3000 institutions. a lot of post offices will have to go. all sorts of measures that people will find hard to stomach. >> do people actually care? all i get in my mailbox is junk mail. >> this is going to be a big battle. probably

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postal service leave at that time? and what those reasons apply today? >> thank you, senator. in the 90's we looked at leading but there was a decision i think it is pretty much the same decision that happened to the fdic the fasb economy rules would have required us to put the health care cost on our books. since then the fact that we are pretending, that issue is no longer an issue than it was back then. what we decided to do with exploring the option is to see if we would be able to take the cost down through the plan. i do not disagree at all with the director. this is something we have to study carefully and i think we have to study it jury quickly because what we are proposing is not unlike what any other large corporation does when you go out on to the open market and get the best price for the health care plan. let me assure you this i do not want to do anything that would have a negative effect on the employees or their retirees. we want to the right thing and we are trying to figure out how to manage the cost

postal service consider cuts to slash a few deficits. it may affect a lot of people. >> and bay area transportation leaders are eyeing a new gas tax and you have >>> look at the temperatures across the country. everybody feeling the fall. there are some areas that were in the 90s a couple days that are now in the 60s. we have 50s around seattle and portland. good news if you are travel by air, all major airports running on time. any time this weekend if you are traveling go to abc7news.com and check out flight tracker. it's at the bottom. >>> snail mail could end up being slower. u.s. postal service wants to make sweeping changes including one that would end overnight delivery of first class mail. here is lilian kim with the story. >> u.s. postal service goes through 157 billion pieces of mail a year. in five years, mail volume has dropped 43 billion pieces. >> we're seeing less and less mail. we also are seeing idle equipment standing by with no mail to run through it with employees with less work to do. >> the recession, and postal ser

the postal service is in trouble. not only because it's running a $9 billion deficit but because the world has changed. the rise of fedex, ups and e-mail giving mr. mailman a run for his money and he's losing. the post office delivered 171 billion pieces of mail in 2010, that's a big number, but down 20% from 2006. but that's the least of its problems. the postal service is also required to deliver mail wherever it's sent no matter what. and by law, it is forced to pay for retiree health costs for the next 75 years. i tell you this because the postal service says it can't make the $5.5 billion payment for retiree health costs this month and is now in danger of defaulting. the postmaster general will be asking the senate for help today. maybe the answer to that plea is in our talk back question this morning. the question for you, is the postal service obsolete? facebook.com/americanmorning. i'll read your comments later this hour. >> in this country, congress is in charge of the purse strings for the postal service eve

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that is my opinion as far as the postal service. host: from "the wall street journal," this morning. host: wheaten, illinois. caller: good morning. god bless america. i want to leave my memory to those who lost their lives at the pentagon and the world trade center. but i want to get to this postal thing. bottom line, this is what is going on in america today. we dropped prices on shipping and moving these, the post office will definitely benefit. more than that, like the woman from california said, if you have been in a post office lately, they do it -- they just do not care. they act like you are doing them a favor by coming to them. these people just do not care. they are union employees. they have their jobs, they have their benefits, and they just do not care. if they start losing their jobs, it will get their attention. more than that, we need to stop bashing all of the millionaires in this country. a millionaire pays my salary. not the guy down the street. these big businesses pay our salaries and actually employed the people

postal service in danger of defaulting. we will tell you what needs to happen to prevent a shutdown. >> change is coming to a san francisco institution. not everyone is happy. we will have that story coming up. >> we have some labor day tech online deals coming up. >> the lynn mccarthy was watching this pair rampaged through his or toyota pre as. he described happens. >> we cannot believe there was a bear inside of our car. it locked itself in. most of the damage was on the >> the bears took his paw and pushed the gear into neutral. the car started rolling. it slid down the driveway, across the street into another cabin and was wedged between rocks and the porch. it was 3:00 a.m., we have just woken up. what happened was to amazing. >> the bear must've been attracted to the aroma of food still lingering in the car. the food was already taken out of the vehicle once the family arrived at the cabin. the good news is no one was hurt. the pair was able to get away. >> a look at our extended forecast, warmer weather on tap for t

postal service is in. it's an interesting dynamic because you certainly have a strong union, you have certain union contracts that are being upheld, and that's putting pressure, he says, on the postal service. the postal service doesn't get any federal money. what position are you in as chair of homeland security and government affairs to help the postal service? what do you think the government would be willing to do or not do to keep the u.s. postal service around? >> yeah. you made a really good -- i mean, the postal service has been here since the 18th century. it's an american iconic institution. there are more people working for the post office than any private employer in america but walmart, and the postal service has more locations than walmart, starbucks and mcdonald's combined. but it's come up against the internet, and it's losing business dramatically. the recession, of course, has hurt as well. it's going to run an over $8 billion deficit for the second year in a row. and though it's separate

postal service a lifeline, but maybe he shouldn't. it's all part of the president's larger plan to cut $3 trillion from the deficits over the next ten years. first the president would allow the postal service to raid $7 billion from an overfunded pension account in order to avoid financial collapse. the agency is facing a serious cash crunch expected to hit its $15 billion borrowing limit in a couple weeks which is why the president also wants to give the postal service more time to make a $5.5 billion payment to a health care retiree fund due at the end of this month, two weeks. the white house plan would allow the postal service to end saturday mail delivery and raise stamp prices another two cents. the president is against letting the postal service void union contracts. the postal service itself proposed layoffs as a wave cutting it costs. republicans are slamming the white house plan especially the part about using $7 billion from its extra contributions to the pension plan. they say instead this plan uses accounting gimmicks. th

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the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it.

postal service wants to eliminate 35,000 workers. that doesn't sit well with some customers. >> this is a good job. if somebody lose this job, they might lose their housing and so many stuff going on behind this e-any change to mail delivery needs congressional approval. they hope lawmakers go along. >> we are fought going away. not cholesteroling down. not out of business. we are doing this so that we can stay in business. >>reporter: postal service has 5 74,000 career employeeings. nation second largest civilian employer after wal-mart. in the news ramp, 7 news. >>> thank you. secretary of state hillary clinton says she is optimistic about the reless of 2 uc berkeley graduate held in iran. at news conference in san francisco she said despite the delay she believes shane and josh will soon be relessed. >> i'm going to count on the iran an government fulfilling the announcement that was made by the the leadership of the country and hope that it can be expedited and we can see their release very soon. >>reporter: him if they are invol

service being in dire straits the postal service would be fine profitable in fact if it weren't for a bit of poison pill legislation slipped into pay into place during the bush years the requires the u.s.p.s. to set aside over just a ten year period and have cash to pay the health benefits of retirees for the next seventy five years seriously post office has to pay billions a year into a fund to pay for retirement health care for employees who are not yet even or no other government or corporate group or agency has ever been asked to do this it was purely to create a crisis in the postal service so republicans could demand that it be broken up and privatized a gift to their campaign donors to the private delivery services and create a crisis that did according to the postmaster general of the postal service will be broke by next summer unless the federal government can step in and take action but the action being proposed is darrell ises republican house plan it creates a special board that can lay off employees even if they're protected by collective bargaining agreements basically

and the postal service doesn't have the money. the agency does not receive tax money. >>> and there are new problems for a japanese automaker. honda is recalling almost 1 million cars worldwide to fix problems with power windows and computer systems. the affected models are the fit sub xwakt, fit aria, and crv crossover. no injuries have been reported. >>> retails are expecting a solid holiday season. not great but pretty good. the shopping center trade group predicts a 3.5% increase from november and december. and that could spar hiring and the economy. consumer spendininis such a big part of the nation's economic activity. >>> and a german wireless provider is taking preorders for the apple iphone 5, even though apple has not said there will be one or even when. but most people expect the 5 to be released later this month or possibly in october. deutsche telekom wants to avoid bottlenecks. >> getting a head start. >>> when we come back, a possible sighting overnight of moammar gadhafi. has he b bn spotted on his way into hiding?

the postal service has made a number of policy proposals allowing the postal service to restructure its health care system and make it independent of federal programs. we need to accelerate workforce reduction by as many as 220,000 employees. >> jon: oh, that's how, you're just going to lay off 220,000 postal workers. what would go wrong with that? [laughter] after all, the phrase "going postal" is virtually synonymous with reacting well to bad news. [laughter] it is no surprise that the post office is struggling, it's an insane business model. someone comes to your house, takes something you've written, and brings it to a person that you want them to give it to anywhere in the world for like 50 cents. oh, but it's going to take a couple of days. ites amazing. i'm surprised the post office has lasted this long. there was a company in new york called urban fetch.com, a door-to-door delivery service for your whims, like amazon meets domino, a service people too high to go out and get things but not too high to want things. so you would go online and you would order it. this is true. you w

patrick donahoe told congress that the postal service is running out of money to pay its bills. but he's not looking for a handout, he wants something else. nancy cordes is our congressional correspondent. nancy, how did the post office get in so much trouble? >> reporter: well, scott, first and foremost it's because demand for the bread and butter product for the u.s. postal service, first class letter mail, has dropped by a whopping 36% over the past five years. now, partly that's because of the bad economy, but mostly it's because americans are plain and simple switching to e-mail, they're paying their billings online and sending invitations on line. >> pelley: what's the postmaster general asking for? >> reporter: well, in the immediate term he wants congress to postpone a payment that's coming due at the end of the month for the postal service for $5.5 billion. but in the long term, he wants authorization for a host of things: approval to drop saturday delivery, to slash work force by 120,000 workers and to close about 3,700 postal offices around the country. >> pelley: one

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postal service wants to eliminate 35,000 workers. that doesn't sit well with some customers. >> this is a good job. if somebody lose this job, they might lose their housing and so many stuff going on behind this e-any change to mail delivery needs congressional approval. they hope lawmakers go along. >> we are fought going away. not cholesteroling down. not out of business. we are doing this so that we can stay in business. >>reporter: postal service has 5 74,000 career employeeings. nation second largest civilian employer after wal-mart. in the news ramp, 7 news. >>> thank you. secretary of state hillary clinton says she is optimistic about the reless of 2 uc berkeley graduate held in iran. at news conference in san francisco she said despite the delay she believes shane and josh will soon be relessed. >> i'm going to count on the iran an government fulfilling the announcement that was made by the the leadership of the country and hope that it can be expedited and we can see their release very soon. >>reporter: him if they are invol

service he postal service, a loft your postal work done, colocate them. that service in one place. that's more convenient to the consumers. that's what the postal service wants to do. the last thing that the postal service has too much of is mail processing centers. they have over 500 of them around the country. they argue it's probably twice the number they need and they need to be able to reduce those. the postal service also needs to be treated fairly and they have been paying into civil service retirement system for many years for some of their older employees, and more recently another more recent federal employee retirement system for the newer employees. two separate audits done by segal and company and a consulting company called hay group some have concluded that the postal service has overpaid its obligation into the civil service retirement system by $50 billion or more. they've estimated they have overpaid to the federal service retirement system by about $7 billion. postal service has asked to be reimbursed for those overpayments and would li

the government gives no money to the postal service. the government has some laws in place about how the postal service has to operate. a lot of small state rural state senators want the postal service to be able to operate within localities in their state that make it very labor intensive. they have very generous benefits. i saw an amazing statistic when i was doing my research for this story that 80% of the cost of the u.s. postal service is labor. if you go to ups that number is 53%. fedex, 32%. unless they have some real labor reforms in terms of the pengs system, which is another thing the postmaster general is going to ask today, if they can make changes by laying off workers or reforming their benefits or even closing branchs, they're not going to have enough money to operate into the summer and they'll be in for some dire straits. >> no layoff clause that postal worker unions were able to negotiate a number of years ago. that hasn't helped the post office. >> reporter: correct. >> is the political will there to make some dramati