. >>> finalmente los republicanos y joe boehner tuvieron que ceder, pero cómo deja esto puesto a joe boehner. >>> es muy interesante, jorge, hasta este momento los miembros de republicanos que se denominan partidarios del tea party, han controlado la cámara, y han vetado a joe boehner el poder de la cámara, él cuando hizo el anuncio estaba solo, no estaba con ninguno de ellos. >>> eso lo veremos, pablo, muchas gracias, en vivo desde washington , es momento de nuestra primera pausa y al regresar, un hispano demanda al condado de los Ángeles, por supuesto maltrato policial, y se van los militares de irak, y pasa una ola de ataques, veremos qué pas ♪. 1 ♪. >>> tenemos un par de cosas sobre méxico, el gobernador de veracruz acabó el departamento de policía de del río, quedando sin empleo 900 agentes, miembros de la marina ahora patrullan las calles, veracruz es uno de los 10 lugares más peligrosos del mundo para los periodistas, según reporteros sin fronteras. >>> más violencia en méxico, miembros del cartel de los zetas, mueren en una balacera, esto pasó cuando una car

. >>> finalmente los republicanos y joe boehner tuvieron que ceder, pero cómo deja esto puesto a joe boehner. >>> es muy interesante, jorge, hasta este momento los miembros de republicanos que se denominan partidarios del tea party, han controlado la cámara, y han vetado a e boehner el poder de la cámara, él cuando hizo el anuncio estaba solo, no estaba con ninguno de ellos. >>> eso lo veremos, pablo, muchas gracias, en vivo desde washington , es momento de nuestra primera pausa y al regresar, un hispano demanda al condado de los Ángeles, por supuesto maltrato policial, y se va los militares de irak, y pasa una ola de ataques, veremos qué pas ♪. 1 ♪. >>> tenemos un par de cosas sobre méxico, el gobernador de veracruz acabó el departamento de policía de del río, quedando sin empleo 900 agentes, miembros de la marina ahora patrullan las calles, veracruz es uno de los 10 lugares más peligrosos del mundo para los periodistas, según reporteros sin fronteras. >>> más violencia en méxico, miembros del cartel de los zetas, mueren en una balacera, esto pasó cuando una carava

he made an appearance on "morning joe." >> trying to get speaker boehner is like trying to nail jello to the wall. he keeps moving the date back because he can't deal with the caucus. >> let's think about this. we have passed a one-year extension, which is what the president of the united states asked for. chuck schumer is a democrat. he should be on the side of barack obama asking for a one-year extension. that's what the president wanted, that's what the american people want, that's what the economy is demanding. certainty in the marketplace, so that's what we passed. it's just absurd that only in this town can you be, i guess, called out for doing the right thing, and the right thing is to give the american people the one-year extension, not a two-month band-aid so we can come back and play politics with this in january and february. we need to come back and get other jobs bills done in january and february and not keep doing this over and over again. this is, again, small potatoes. >> congressman kingston, we appreciate your time. thank you so much for your thoughts today. we want

joe, i start with you. the republicans and speaker boehner, he is looking at the losing end of this battle right now. do you think the reality check of losing on one of the standoffs could help him convince his conference to get in line next time there's a bipartisan deal reached? joe, can you hear me? >> sorry, yes. one of the things that happened here is that speaker boehner may have had a political loss, but certainly had a policy victory. what mike said about keystone pipeline being included in that legislation is very, very crucial because just a week ago, the president wanted a clean extension of the payroll tax and he didn't want that keystone thing. he punted it until next year. for him to have to make this decision in the next two months is really a huge concession for him that he didn't want to make. regardless of the fact it is a two year extension of the one year payroll tax. >> i'm sorry, i am so on the christmas list, i have to get out of my own head. this is truly a win for president obama. b

former pennsylvania congressman and naval officer joe sestak and former louisiana congressman bob livingston. gentlemen, great to have you here this morning. congressman livingston, i want to start with you because you served with speaker boehner. getting in and out of these political scrapes, how does he get the house republicans to the finish line? and backing good graces with middle class americans who are obviously frustrated right now with what's going on in d.c.? >> actually, thomas, i served with newt gingrich. but i think this deal right now is a goat rope. the president said he wanted a year of this tax reduction for the cost of social security, that's what the payroll tax is. the house gave him a year, the senate turns around, gives him two months, then they go home, then the house goes home, and where do they fit together? now, normally the two houses would come together in a conference committee, but evidently the senate's not interested in that and now it's become a political issue. and i think the republicans have probably on the short end of the stick on this political issue.

john boehner, mitch mcconnell, eric cantor. call them out. >> joe madison, bill press. you guys are great. we could go all night long. that's why you're radio talkers. it's good to have you with us. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter. @edshow. we want to know what you think. >>> a quick programming note. tomorrow night democratic leader nancy pelosi will be our special guest on this program, "the ed show." we'll be talking about the gop obstruction, the democrats' plan for 2012 and a whole lot more. join us tomorrow night. we look forward to it. >>> coming up, gingrich may be in big trouble with evangelical voters in iowa. which means he might lose the caucus despite this big surge in the national polls. we'll talk with reverend carey gordon out of iowa on that. >>> the fallout continues after home improvement giant lowe's pulls its ads from a reality show about muslim americans. the mayor of dearborn, michigan, jack o'reilly, will be here x a] multi-policy discount. paperless discount. paid-in-full di

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>> well, ho ho ho to "morning joe." >> wow. thank you. >> thank you, mike. >> speaker boehner has a rough couple of hours ahead of him. "politico" learned to prevent another mutiny from his freshmen as he forced them to take this deal they didn't want to that on the conference call where he announced it, the lines were muted. they couldn't speak up. the speaker announced his decision and said we're finally going to do what we should've done before. house republicans were isolated with the senate republicans saying this is crazy with carl rove out saying this is crazy, with the "wall street journal" editorial page saying you've handed president obama a huge issue. president obama is now out there in the holiday season as a tax cutting issue. when you have all of that opposition, it was only a matter of how quickly they were going to cave. boehner knew this would be tough. he had no idea how bad it would be. the obama people knew this would be good for them, they had no idea how good it would be for them. >> no doubt about it. by

, thank you. >>> former penn state coach joe paterno is in a pennsylvania hospital after falling and breaking his pelvis for the second time. paterno is not expected to need surgery. meantime, there are new questions tonight in the jerry sandusky child sex abuse case about what a key prosecution witness heard and saw. nbc's jay gray has our report. >> reporter: tonight, explosive new allegations in the penn state child sex abuse scandal, this time from the defense. >> it seems that all of these now young men are following a similar pattern. >> reporter: attorney joe amendola telling nbc news he's ex-moplo- exploring how and how often accusers may have been in contact with each other prior to charges being filed in the case. >> is it possible that all of them reacted the same way to the abuse by staying in touch with jerry and maintaining contact with him. i find it strange and what it smacks of is some kind of collusion. >> reporter: one attorney said, they're trying to raise any sort of doubt and throw up a smoke screen. i can't speak for everyone, but i can speak for my client, vic

johnny crawford won a contest to help john boehner flip the switch to illuminate 10,000 10,000 lights on that tree. >> mark is off tonight, joe fonzi is here. >> reporter: the giants say they don't plan on making a big splash in the winter meetings but tonight they made a little one. san francisco is training a couple of players, most notably andrus torrez. after being one of the players that sparked the giants. torrez fell off this season with a 2.31 batting average. also sent to the mets is reliever ramirez. in return they get angel pagan. pagan a switch hitter to go with a .262 batting average who took over in center field for the mets when carlos beltran was moved to right and later traded to the giants. >>> the sharks have been stumbling of late and the tightly packed division of the nml. that's meant going from first place to fourth place very quickly. minnesota wild reach down tonight in their the áf bay area product coleman who was once part of the junior program. coleman's dad in the house, a former shark. take another look, you can see the effort by povelsky sloth the puck

johnny crawford won a contest to help john boehner flip the switch to illuminate 10,000 10,000 lights on that tree. >> mark is off tonight, joe fonzi is here. >> reporter: the giants say they don't plan on making a big splash in the winter meetings but tonight they made a little one. san francisco is training a couple of players, most notably andrus torrez. after being one of the players that sparked the giants. torrez fell off this season with a 2.31 batting average. also sent to the mets is reliever ramirez. in return they get angel pagan. pagan a switch hitter to go with a .262 batting average who took over in center field for the mets when carlos beltran was moved to right and later traded to the giants. >>> the sharks have been stumbling of late and the tightly packed division of the nml. that's meant going from first place to fourth place very quickly. minnesota wild reach down tonight in their the áf bay area product coleman who was once part of the junior program. coleman's dad in the house, a former shark. take another look, you can see the effort by povelsky sloth the puck

tide decided to take the battle right to some of the politicians themselves yesterday representative joe walsh ran away from those protesters down the steps inside the capitol today they headed to the offices of john boehner and mitch mcconnell but do you think that our politicians that actually give the protesters a minute of their time stand face to face with the people that they're supposed to be representing and whose interests they're supposed to be legislating yeah right and that's because they're scared they're scared of the people and what they actually think which is we know from recent polls is a whole lot in terms of congress congress is only has an approval right now of what eight percent that is an all time low and that is pretty pathetic and politicians might be afraid of talking to the protesters face to face at the end of the day and fortunately they're not scared what should affect the most which are the upcoming elections because the only opinion that matters to them there is that the big money donors the special interests exactly the powers of people marched against to

joe johns has the fun, next. . back then, he had something more important to do. he wasn't focused on his future but fortunately, somebody else was. at usaa we provide retirement solutions for our military, veterans and their families. from investments... to life insurance... to health care options. learn more with our free usaa retirement guide. call 877-242-usaa. >>> denver broncos quarterback tim tebow seems to be a hot topic. certainly you've heard of tebowing. but he had stayed in the political realm at least until last night. listen, rick perry. >> there are a lot of people out there, understand it, that said tim tebow wasn't going to be a very good nfl quarterback. there are people that said, well, he doesn't have the right throwing mechanisms. he won two national championships and that looked pretty good. we were the national champions in job creation back in texas, but i'm already for the next level. let me tell you, i hope i am the tim tebow of the iowa caucuses. >> joe johns, political pop. politicians and the old sports analogy. do they ever go togethe

. >> joe johns reporting from iowa in contrast the current speaker, john boehner, we've seen him cry on several occasions. >>> president obama isn't planning to just let republicans have their day on tuesday. an official says the president will speak to his aiiowa supporters in a web chat as results come in. in 2008, then candidate obama clinched a surprising eight-point win in the iowa caucuses, which put him on the road to winning his party's nomination. >>> ron paul is surging through iowa right now, hoping to fuel his dra matic campaign momentum, but he may be rolling the dice with a surprising new front-runner status. paul is about to take home to his home state of texas to spend the holiday weekend with his wife, while many of his rivals will stay in iowa, hoping to seize on any last minute openings. monday though, ron paul will be back in iowa with some new fire power. his son, the kentucky tea party favorite, the senator from kentucky. rand paul. ron paul may be at the front of the republican presidential pack right now, but there's growing concern among some conservatives wh

the grand bargain with boehner and obama, that failed. the super-committee agreement, that failed. why is this so difficult? because a year ago the sense that america was cutting spending was the way washington was going. a huge push behind the tea party to do that. has that now suffered a set back? >> you know, if you just cut 1% a year for the next seven years, which mike enzi, my colleague from wyoming introduced that piece of legislation, i cosponsored, you would balance the budget. we could do this. this super-committee was supposed to cut only 1.2 trillion over the next 10 years at a time when we're going to spend about $40 trillion. any family in america could do that. you would think that the government, bill, would be able to do that as well. washington is failed. you say why did the super-committee fail? they asked chuck schumer, the senator from new york if that would help the president if the super-committee failed, he said, yes it would. i wonder how committed some people were on the other side of the aisle to get a solution. when the president wants to run against a d

democrat joe manchin says the tax cut hasn't worked. >> we tried the payroll tax cut. i support it. i won't double down on a failed policy. >> in the house, john boehner says he favors extension with one requirement. >> republicans are ready to work with the president and the democrats to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance temporarily. but they must be offset with spending cuts elsewhere. >> continuing the growing debt, a year after the bipartisan simpson-bowles plan was revealed it should have been adopted. >> yet, that was rejected out of hand by the white house and others. >> reporter: after both republican and democratic plans failed tonight, perhaps we will be one step closer to compromise. although the christmas holiday, some 3-1/2 weeks away it has to come quickly before the tax holiday expires. bret? >> bret: more on this with the panel. thank you. president obama's performance on the economy may be the determining factor in his quest for re-election next year. chief white house correspondent ed henry reports on what the president is saying now about that.

i'll talk with nuclear weapons expert joe sarinsioni. tweet us your thoughts using #edshow. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we're going to go now live to capitol hill. john boehner is speaking right after the republican caucus meeting. here it is. >> would take care of those doctors who treat medicare patients. the reduction in their payments. solve that problem for the next two years. and extend unemployment benefits with reforms for a year. exactly what the president asked us to do. our members do not want to just punt and do a two-month short-term fix where we have to come back and do this again. we're here, we're willing to work. we will appoint conferees and we hope the senate will appoint conferees. because we're willing to get the work done now and do it the right way. lastly, it's become clear that what the senate did pass is going to cause job creators all kinds of problems. as we saw a report that came out today by those who actually run payroll systems, that there is great confusion about the way the senate bill's put toget

>> time for "morning joe." right now time for chuck and the daily run do you. >> today house republicans will reject the plan to extend the payroll tax cut, but procedurally. # speaker boehner said it's not a fix. why is this any different than what was passed this year. we will talk to both sides of this debate. hit after hit from mitt romney's negative ads. they admit the onslaught is taking a toll and calling on republicans to hold their fire. two weeks to go until iowa, please listen. before there was 9-9-9, the man was slowsly associated with a flat tax. he joins us to weigh in on the debate and the former presidential candidate tells us what he thinks. it's tuesday, december 20th and this is "the daily rundown." let's get back to the first read of the morning and believe it or not, we start on capitol hill. house republicans started after a two-hour meeting that the members will not vote on the payroll tax deal for now. the two-month extension that they call kicking the can down the road. >> our members d

. >> joe, isn't the republican party always about tax cuts? why do the republicans that are being seen as somewhat obstructionist at this, why wouldn't they be fully on board, as john boehner is? john boehner says he will, and he's not able to corral all the republicans in the house. >> republicans are not across the board in line with or against this tax cut. in general, republicans always support tax cuts because we believe that it's better for americans to have more money in their pocket, because when they have more money to spend, they spend it and they invest it and that's good for the economy. right now we know that our economy is struggling. but i think some republicans would tell you that the big challenge becomes whether or not we can afford it at this time. and then if we consider the fact -- what we've seen on the part of democrats is the effort to create this class warfare. you've got a lot of small business owners who -- for the first time in their lives are making a good income and they're being told they have to pay their fair s

. >> welcome back to "morning joe," 21 past the hour. that was the speaker of the house, john boehner with his thoughts on grover norquist and republicans in congress. joining us now, managing editor for "the hill," bob cusack. and staff writer for "the hill" russell berman who writes about grover norquist refusing to remove the names of house members who have disavowed his attacks. >> are we talking about grover again? >> we are. >> what is this obsession about grover? seriously, grover. >> grover, grover, grover. >> it's all about grover. >> my 4-year-old likes grover. that's a different grover. >> that's a different grover. >> yes, it is. is it like afghanistan, where republicans are quietly saying this is kind of more difficult than i thought and we really kind of wish -- >> no, no, it's not like that. it's grover. grover is one guy -- i like grover. i sang grover's pledge. but i did go around and shake -- oh, my god, i signed grover's pledge, will i be able to go back on the pledge with grover -- the pledge is not -- and we'll get t

and many of its members are as frustrated with john boehner, the speaker as he is with them. we're going to talk to two tea partiers about how the gop managed to hand the president a huge victory that could have been theirs. plus joe biden stuck it to mitt romney in an op-ed piece saying mitt romney would double down on the very policy, the economic policies that actually caused the great recession. we're going to talk to the "hardball" strategists about what romney and the other republican hopefuls need to do between now and the republican caucus, january 3, to seal the deal. >>> also, what republican turned down desperate pleas he run for president won't say know when it comes to being a v.p., that's in the "side show," and it's our last show before christmas. that means it's time for the new york magazine critic david and me to go over the issue. we start with president obama playing "hardball." michael steele is here, and he's dressed in fine christmas fare. bob, you're in your usual suit. i see no sign of christmas on you, except -- >> it's red, it's red, chris. >> red,

john boehner said he's not as conservative as people might think he is. how do you respond? >> i think he's referring to the millions of dollars in negative attack ads that were run during the '90s, the time magazine cover depicting newt as scrooge breaking tiny tim's crutch. newt really does care about solving problems for the poor. he approaches it from a conservative way. he's much more in the jack kemp wing of the conservative movement that really tries to elevate the poor using pro growth policies. so i think that's what he's referring to. there is a bit of a caricature out there and that's one of the things that during the general election, people will finally be able to see, independent also say, this is a guy who has a lot of good ideas about how to eliminate income equality in america. he's proposing different solutions than what you might hear out of the obama administration and from democrats. >> shannon: ray, for now, that strategy seems to be working. mr. gingrich pulling well ahead of your candidate right now in a key state in iowa. how do you plan to close the

. >> joe johns, cnn, washington. >> certainly was an incredible year and it's not over yet. >>> it's no secret that congress' approval rating is lousy. just how bad is it? >>> also, we're getting word that speaker john boehner will address the payroll tax situation. >>> first, the karma bus takes out two he grinches who were accused of stealing during the holiday season. turns out they went to the parking lot and discovered someone had broken into their car, stolen their other items. apparently what goes around really does come around. here's your 15 minutes of fame. and now it's up. people with a machine. what ? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it ? hello ? hello ?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello ? ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense. you'd do that for me? really? yeah, i'd like that. who are you talking to? uh, it's jake from state farm. sounds like a really good deal. jake from state farm at three in the morning. who is this? it's jake from state farm. what are you wearing, jake from state farm? [ jake ] uh... kha

host: joe, independent from long beach, new york. the >> call i was listening to your guest this morning -- caller: i was listening to your guest this morning and you did not ask him what i would like to ask -- if this is such a good idea, why just passed for two months? passive for a year. if it is such a bad idea, let's not pass it at all. i never heard of a good idea only being passed for two months. that is the most inane things i have heard. host: we have two members of congress coming up, representatives lankford of oklahoma and congresswoman allyson schwartz, and we can ask them in those very questions. so, stay with us this morning. sean, republican from maryland. caller: we get into the smaller picture but if you look at the bigger picture, when my party came into office, but first thing we said was our goal is to limit this president to one term. it was not to save the country from a depression, to work collaboratively to give us a brighter future but it was to prevent this president, who had not done anything yet, who had

joe, an independent in long beach, new york. your thoughts. >> caller: i was listening to your guest this morning, and i -- you didn't ask him the one question i would have liked to ask. if this is such a good idea, if this is such a good idea, why just pass it for two months? let's pass it for a year. if it's such a bad idea, let's not pass it at all. but i've never heard of a good idea only being passed for two months. that is the most inane thing i've ever heard. >> host: joe, and we have two members of congress coming up, representative lang todd from oklahoma, and congresswoman allison schwartz. so we can ask them those very questions, so stay with us this morning. >> caller: i'd appreciate that. >> host: all right. >> caller: merry christmas. >> host: maryland, go ahead. >> caller: you know, if we look at the bigger picture, when my party came into office, the first thing we said was our goal is to limit this president to one term. it wasn't to save the country from a depression, it wasn't to work cooperatively to give us

president obama on the default of the four trillion dollar bargain as eric cantor walked away from the joe biden talks. the list is 1 mile long. right now they are walking away from the middle-income tax cut for 160 million americans. >> i have a question. you said earlier today that he thought john boehner knew what the right thing to do was. earlier you said you're not sure he was for a cut. >> he was for this before he was against it. he was against it before he was for it. what explains that? the american people. mr. mcconnell was not as enthusiastic. he said we're going to put it on the floor because the american people have been pulling in support for this proposal to give stability to middle-class families so they will have an opportunity to support themselves and help grow the economy which economists says this will do. i think while he knows the right thing to do, that is why he came out and said it this deal, this agreement to give a middle- class tax cut some certainty for the next 60 days was a victory. he told his caucus came back, the members, the tea party faction, and said