pakistan because in pakistan the military has the absolute authority and if we see over the past two years the military has sideline the civilian government we saw after bin laden's killing the . government of president zardari has just subordinated all the foreign policy to the military and when it comes to the key and vital decision making about pakistan's foreign policy is the military which just makes the shots now this is unfortunately over the past week it and indeed since the inception of relationship between the two countries over the past five years the united states has banked on the pakistani military and there's no one has not helped in a significant way this have alien government and democracy in the country which is good for their for pakistan and also for security in the region and it's time to change. that policy to continuous engaging and continue to support the civil. civilian government and also this is a civil society in pakistan which are working for the progress of pakistan and on the ad a hand get a tough ally with the military establishment. and sit a clear ca

right now regarded pakistan policy and also engage in afghanistan it should engage with pakistan if pakistan continues if pakistan brings a change in this policy and stop supporting the militants but if pakistan continues despite your nice a should have a plan b. and that should be to contain the bad actions of the pakistani military in the future ok robert it's not possible because you've written many occasions that american policy towards the pakistan of the region in general is really seriously flawed. yeah and i guess what i would say is that it's find it to say that the u.s. ought to be. trying to support civilian governance in pakistan and trying to act as a brake on the actions of the pakistan military part of the difficulties here however is that the civilian political authorities in pakistan are a pretty unlovely bunch. the lack of political support they're highly corrupt. these are not necessarily the the sort of people on whose side we want to be playing unequivocally so there's a huge difficulty there the other difficulty is that many people tend to assume that well look

tribal areas again passion in the future about wali pakistan hold of a pan pakistan has told them go away from something with that with pakistan is what you told them that whatever understanding secretly existed between us that is now out and if pakistan does not cooperate. drone attacks cannot go on there maybe just one or two but the scale at which they are taking place now it is not possible to maintain that again so pakistan has now all the advantages of pakistan and not to put conditions number on india will not be in the stroller the proxy power because that will create and i'm warning this for the russians and for the regional countries if india gets a place larger than life in afghanistan you have another state of israel in there and it will create problems for the whole region probably iran for. translation countries for pakistan and particularly for china so this is going to be a lot of problems ok now that is one what pakistan must said by assad must say that there will be an even handed policy between us secondly pakistan must not insist pakistan must be open of course go

my first book of pakistan was banned and pakistan. given what martin said, this program is not banned in pakistan. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> coming up, making each holds a news conference in new york city. on c-span2 and, it is "the "ommunicators appea. tomorrow morning, paul tonko talks about extending the payroll tax holiday. then senator johnny siakson. and then announcement of the postal service that it will cut services to reduce costs. live tuesday at 7:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. >> it is so convenient to listen to c-span with the free c-span radio app. you get all three c-span television networks. you can listen to our interview programs. c-span, available wherever you are. find out more at c- span.org/radioapp. >> now today's white house briefing. topics include negotiations of congress on payroll tax cuts, the arrest of the faa's administrator, and the downing of a military plane in iraq. this portion is 20 minutes. [unin

and if pakistan is not on board then the taliban aren't going to be on board the taliban and if pakistan wants to cooperate then there's a degree to which they can force the taliban's hand maybe not completely maybe not on the afghan side of the border although probably on the afghan side of the border but they could definitely definitely change the security environment now that question what to do about pakistan and whether or not their withdrawal from the conference will make it as some people have said utterly meaningless to discuss afghanistan's future is a different question and frankly europe and the u.s. might have to begin to more explicitly place pressure on the pakistanis to investigate a number of options that they potentially have not so much on the cutting assistance side because the west does have a legitimate interest in making sure for instance that pakistan's nuclear weapons are secure but there's a number of creative options that could be investigated among them allowing india to begin to fill some of the security vacuum that's going to be left by the west allowing othe

my first book of pakistan was banned and pakistan. given what martin said, i hope this program is not banned in pakistan. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [indistinct chatter] >> in a few moments, newt gingrich posed a news conference. in about 15 minutes, a look at the federal employee health benefit program. the news coverage of monday's meeting. on "washington journal" we will talk about the date doc the debate over extending the payroll tax cut. -- the debate over extending the payroll tax cut. then we will discuss the postal service's decision to reduce service to that cost with bernie becker. live on c-span every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> pay you a dollar an hour for your labor. it is the most expensive an element. have no environment controls, no police controls, the retirement -- no retirement, you do not care about anything but money. >> ross perot's book about trade issues. the businessman made two attempts for the presidency. the f

my first book of pakistan was banned in pakistan. given what martin said, i hope this program is not banned in pakistan. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> in a phone moments -- in a few moments, newt gingrich's press conference in new york city. then president obama encourages congressional support to extend the payroll tax cut. then defense secretary leon panetta on u.s.-israel relations. later, we will reair the forum on pakistan. a couple of live events to take about tomorrow on our companion network, c-span3. the senate judiciary subcommittee on the courts will look at allowing television cameras and the supreme court. witnesses are scheduled to include arlen specter and the chief judge of the fourth circuit court of appeals in philadelphia. at 2:30 p.m. eastern, a hearing on the supposed merger between pharmacy benefit managers. the ceo's of both companies testified before the senate judiciary subcommittee on antitrust and consumer right

between us secondly pakistan must not insist pakistan must open of course goldenbridge must be left open if they want to withdraw it is good for pakistan the sooner they go the better for pakistan and for everybody else also in the region except india and except israel now if they agree that we should be given the same skater's nuclear status as india it will lead to more demand because that says sword always hanging on pakistan's nuclear. and we should say we have we had a declared deal killer power you have to accept our position put us in the nuclear club along with you and other countries this is another condition third condition that we should put to them that please tell india that if they want a most favored nation state of whatever it is they must certainly kashmir issue according to the will of the people it's human rights issue it is the right of a nation and they are simply ignoring it because america is not interested in settlement of kashmir issue. and finally we should say that your embassy here is not it's a war time embassy within are your fighting. and you have main

pakistan is not an ordinary country it's not a large part of understand pakistan can resist and then whole region will be turned into an inferno it will light a fire which they will not be able to control so i don't think it is possible for them to do think of that pakistan has now announced it is cutting off supply routes and demanding that the us vacates the shamsi air base and with the international forces continue its operation to twenty full team do you believe the americans will attack pakistan's tribal areas again passion in the future about wali hold of a pan pakistan has told them go away from something with that with pakistan is what you told them that whatever understanding secretly existed between us that is now out and if pakistan does not cooperate. drone attacks cannot go on there maybe just one or two but the scale at which they are taking place now it is not possible to maintain that again pakistan has now all the advantages not to put conditions number on india will not be in the stroller the proxy power of the calls that will create and i'm warning this for the rus

what happens in pakistan, and i have a lot of friends there. what happens in pakistan is very hard to explain in a rational logical sense because the conclusion that i draw, are this is a country that is hell bent on self destruction. given the fact -- >> charlie: hell bent on self destruction. >> i'm not taking advantage of -- let me put it another way. i'm not taking advantages of many opportunities that we and others have presented to them that would dramatically transform and help transform their society and move it forward in a more peaceful way not only in internal conflicts but external. >> charlie: part of the conventional wisdom is isi maintained relationship with the network because they want to have a player in afghanistan if things go bad. >> well ... >> charlie: they do things that are not in our interest. >> think that that is absolutely correct. but i will go a stepurther and say that the isi is not independently of the general. >> charlie: so therefore the buck stops with him. >> for rose that they suld explain perhaps at some p

policy toward pakistan. we want the more democratic country, but we also want a government that can deliver anti-terrorism cooperation on the ground. in practice, we always choose the latter. which means we cozy up to the military and overlook its destruction of democracy. but the only way to get real cooperation is by helping pakistan move from being a military state to a more normal country. if washington continues to bolster pakistan's de facto military dictatorship, we will get a dysfunctional nation where the public fed propaganda by the military establishment continues to vent its anger at washington. the arab spring holds a key lesson. when washington props up a dictatorship because it needs foreign policy support from it, it builds up wellsprings of poison and anti-americanism within that society. and one day, that will erupt. for more on this, you can read my column in this week's "time" magazine. meanwhile, let's get started. >>> mr. papandreou, thank you >>> mr. papandreou, thank you for joining m

and pakistan well it kind of blossomed in one nine hundred forty seven when pakistan seeks alliance with western forces to counter india in one thousand nine hundred eighty u.s. and pakistan helped train the armed forces against soviet the soviet invasion of afghanistan but things got rocky in one nine hundred eighty eight when president bush suspends economic and military aid to pakistan ten years later the us imposes sanctions after pakistan test fired nuclear devices that's forward to two thousand and one right after the september eleventh attacks george president george w. bush declares war on terror and pakistan promises to help in two thousand i'm president obama announces af pak strategy to destroy al qaeda havens with an pakistan and afghanistan and more recently in two thousand and ten the us ramps up drone strikes to record numbers and hundreds of pakistani civilians reportedly killed in the process back in may u.s. troops assassinate osama bin laden on pakistani territory and in august of two thousand and eleven pakistan gives china the remnants of the u.s. helicopter that wen

-pakistan relations. this is about 50 minutes. >> covering pakistani affairs, having served as a south asia bureau chief for the post, from 1999 to 2002. that's when i got to know her. she was also bureau chief in kabul from 2002 to 2004. she's continued to follow events in the region very closely as reflected in her new book, "playing with fire, pakistan at war with itself". which she paints a vivid portrait of the country and its many problems. bruce riedel on my far right, a senior fellow here at brookings and himself a leading authority on south asian affairs. career cia officer, bruce has served in many senior positions in the u.s. government including as a senior director of for near east and south asian affairs at the nsc during the clinton administration. he was an advisor to the obama presidential campaign on south asia and shared an inneragency review of u.s. policy toward afghanistan and pakistan during the early months of the obama administration. he is the author of his own recent book on pak

afghan government believes a lot of the insecurity is coming from pakistan, that pakistan has a lot of taliban and peace talks, and they would have seen pakistan here at this conference. obviously pakistan has boycotted the conference because of the border incident. the afghan officials are still saying that they are still confidence that they could get a lot of international support for the country, despite the fact that pakistan is not here. some are asking why there's one incident in order to boycott this, given that so many pakistans have been killed in the last 10 years. i mean, what are you hearing there from the difference political groups? >> well, if you speak to the afghan president's office, they will tell you pakistan has been arresting several top taliban commanders in the last two to three months inside pakistan because they were involved in peace talks with the government of afghanistan. they would also tell you that pakistan wants to have what they say is a strategic depth in afghanistan, that groups are their proxies. of course, pakistan denies that, but the afghan

and pakistan looks to beijing for support after last month's deadly drone attack leaves ties with the u.s. in tatters. clare broadcasting live from moscow you're watching our carriage. well in this day two decades ago the world's largest country ceased to exist the fall of the soviet union meant the end of the cold war and the birth of a dozen new states but twenty years on the collapse of the u.s.s.r. raises unanswered questions he explains. even today many generate their own explanations for the fall of a global goliath but some putting it down to the role of just a few. ok for two reasons. the nineteen ninety one august coup was a turning point in the country's history with images of yeltsin standing on a tank creating a new hero yet for most here even that wasn't seen as causing a fatal crack in the soviet union. very sudden and. shocking i mean there were people even months before who were shoring us that this was going to go on forever so all the billions and billions and billions that the us and put into intelligence and forecasting all proved to be completely useless the colla

pakistan has been be genes best for the history of the people's republic of china increasingly pakistan. has a certain strategic value to china certainly as for you all know pakistan's relations with the united states are in difficulties because of the nato attack on military outposts last month and washington d.c. refused to deliver the kind of apology demanded by be pakistani government and the same time it is very significant and the top chinese diplomat when he was in pakistan he met the president and the prime minister the army chief of staff arguably them. most powerful soldier in pakistan as well as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the head of the into services intelligence so it seems that sign would be would have been ours to give more military aid to pakistan to balance against the weakening ties between pakistan and the united states and it's also possible that number they play a certain mediating role between the military and the government and certainly tensions between the tool have been high in the recent year also. two decades ago the soviet union fell apart

pakistan has. a certain strategic value to china because of the completion of the highway as well as the almost completion of the port china certainly hopes that it can prove lend names to pakistan then open up seedlings to the indian ocean and bring the good voiding the overcrowded straits of malacca obviously china is no longer interested to side with the united states to pakistan against indows soviet our lines as in the days of the cold war but pakistan remains a very important ally of china in the region as person b. when the tire central asian region becomes more important to china in strategic as well as in energy supply terms now within the last ten years especially china has been encroaching on the u.s. economic dominance do you think it challenges the charges that opposes to washington and now go beyond just being financial ones. well i don't think pakistan this willing to give up a military a as well as you can be a from washington to be replaced by a system from china but certainly as w

-pakistan relations are tricky these days. soon, pakistani children will be introduced to the american hero that will make inroads that only u.s. politicians could dream of. elmo is coming to pakistan. there is a locally made a version that is soon to air. the $20 million has been allocated to the project. >> ♪ >> meet the cast of pakistan's "sesame street." elmo is here, but he is surrounded by new friends. a pakistani village has been created on said, full of local characters and local concerns. here is the star of the show, cricket mad, energetic, and curious. she says that the puppets are like family. >> i feel like they are my sisters and brothers because i am telling them a lot of stuff. >> do you think that the children who watch this show will learn a lot? >> they will get more educated. >> they hope the strong female lead will win over the next generation in this conservative society. >> generally, the girls take a step back. she is really strong headed and captain of the cricket team. she's not afraid to ask questi

i would like to extend my sincere condolences well sometimes sorry isn't enough pakistan is hitting the brakes on its relationship with the us closing key supply routes to afghanistan and now russia might have to do the same if the us keeps taking advantage we'll dig into the root of the problem. and while the american military deals with literally roadblocks so you have got it share a financial potholes to deal with on the bumpy road to recovery but with threats mounting of a credit downgrade is the e.u. on life support. it's tuesday december sixth five pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching our t.v. well we begin tonight with a question is the u.s. close to war with iran tensions between tehran and the west continue to escalate recent events show both countries are engaging in a dangerous political game just this past weekend iran claims to have shot down a u.s. drone flying over the country on the same day explosions outside the british embassy and bahrain this after the u.s. claimed iran is behind a plot to kill a saudi ambassador to washington right here on u.s. soi

pakistan. has a certain strategic value to china certainly is for you all know pakistan's relations with the united states are in difficulties because of the nato attack on is a military outpost last month to washington d.c. the fuse to deliver kind of policy. i guess then the government and the same time it is very significant and the top chinese diplomat when he was in pakistan he met the president the prime minister the army chief of staff arguably the most powerful soldier in pakistan as well as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the head of the into services intelligence so it seems that china would be would have been ours to give more military aid to pakistan to balance against the weakening ties between pakistan and the united states and it's also possible it's high number to mediating role between the military and the government and certainly tensions between the tool. in the recent year also. two decades ago the soviet union fell apart leading to a major change in the world'

pakistan is reportedly considering imposing a tax on the u.s. and nato supplies going to afghanistan through its territories was shot down last month cross border a nato airstrike killed twenty four pakistani soldiers will ations between washington and islamabad hit a new low after the incident let's discuss the situation i would prefer the senior bowl to our bureau of best good journalism in london many thanks for joining us here on. the pakistani prime minister has said the country is seeking new rules of engagement with washington is that what the reported tense plan is all about and this so what with these new rules do you think well according to the report from the go and the rules pakistan's thinking of including to impose a tax on all trucks and tankers person through pakistan basically shipping us supplies through pakistan to afghanistan that's about two and a half thousand trucks a year according to the guardian and parks i'm talking about the turks of about one of thousand dollars per truck and that seems to be part of a broader packag

seriously degraded their relationship now with saying pakistan. is taking action they've ordered the u.s. to get out and take care of your own along with them is this a sign that pakistan is now more willing to stand up to washington. well i think you know we have to realize first of all that the pakistani state is not a monolith in fact we can do is guys down the middle there is an enormous military and intelligence establishment the general staff and the i ask that has for decades been either in fact it's war and the government pushing out of popularly elected civilian governments or it's been a sort of an interstate that really runs the country from within that's the relationship that is the most direct that this point to the process then there is the relationship with the elected civilian. government that not actually is pretty good not withstanding the remarks you just heard from the prime minister. so if the highest rank continues to go down how what does that mean for the war on terror i know there's fear that the pakistani military might c

in pakistan. and in that camp, there are many kids that are previously were going to school and now they have no school and the cost to help them go would be about one month per month per child. fifth grader 20 bucks a year. first grader five bucks a year. they get their food in the back on the mess tenth and then on the left is an extreme place where people get indoctrined into a violent islam. because of international lack of help for those kids to get implicated these kids are here. there's another camp here. osama bin ladins first assistant. spent two-years in gann tan know bay in cuba and he's running large camp and just down that the united states, 212 mash units. what's going on is they're agenda is to get people to be dependent and indoctrinate the violent islam. unfortunately we're a nonprofit in the states if we go into the camps or talk with anybody there we're affiliating with a terrorist organization and shut down by the, irs so we created a viral incubator for terrorists similar to w

and pakistan relationship is on life support so what happens in tie between the two countries collapsed completely. and if the massacre of the us doesn't want you to know about thousands of taliban prisoners of war killed and then burry both by the dirt and paperwork because according to the bush administration all is fair in the war on terror. and speaking of all it's fair bring on the waterboarding and enhanced interrogation tactics that's right the u.s. senators don't see a problem with returning to our tortured past. it's thursday december first seven pm in washington d.c. i listen while you're watching our team. well we start this hour with what could be one of the worst atrocities in the war on terror yet many americans don't even know what happened this month marks the ten year anniversary of the mass for that so police and afghanistan it has been a dash to lately is located in the desert of northern afghanistan near shore gargan charges that enough and warlord took custody of south of the taliban prisoners from u.s. forces and then allowed them to die witnesses say that prisoner

and pakistan moves to become buddies with beijing as ties with the u.s. whether following november's dead leaving drone attacks. you're watching our tear a very warm warm welcome it's eight am here in the russian capital and this is lucy catherine of reporting for you now on this day two decades ago the world's largest country ceased to exist the fall of the soviet union amend the end of the cold war but also the birth of a dozen new states but even today the collapse of the u.s.s.r. raises unanswered questions as artie's own. explains. even today the many generated their own explanations for the full of a global goliath but some put down to the role of just a few. true rich gorbachev. the nineteen ninety one august coup was a turning point in the country's history with images of yeltsin standing on a tank creating a new hero yet for most here even that wasn't seen as causing a fatal crack in the soviet union it was all very sudden and. shocking i mean there were people here even months before who were shoring us that this was going to go on forever so al