>> dana: no. introduceness matters and i think you will see a lot of that discussion in the next nine months. the question comes down to what kind of country are we going to be this how are we going to pay for it? in the last four weeks the campaign turned to do we like the system we have with improvement or go to something different like europe? >> greg: it's about turning into belgium, isn't it? >> bob: it's not. there are a lot of things in belgium that are very nice. >> dana: fries. >> greg: it's not the food. >> kimberly: waffles! >> bob: first, the debt total up to 61%. 39% of the country considers themselves moderate. it's there that the presidential election are won and lost. one. two, conservatives, there are a lot of type of conservative, moderate conservative to the wing, my brother here. this is trey wingo. i'm not sure that you say it's hard right conservative. that is is not what it means. it's been a big disparity. this is a center right country. i'll accept that. >> greg: that is a

>> bob: i agree with dana. the timing -- i think he is overexposed. >> dana: absolutely. >> bob: when you get something like this, he can't win no matter what he says. particularly with you. if he said no, i didn't make any mistakes you'd open the show and say look at arrogant president of the united states. if you are going to be in a situation like this, you are never going to convince a wing nut like you. >> eric: said once a day, once an hour, every day. >> bob: don't you second guess yourself in a while? i second guess you once a day. >> kimberly: frequent flier miles on that. >> eric: he is doing the same one. >> kimberly: over and over again. this le minds me when he said he's lazy. what is wrong with the poor guy? >> dana: what is wrong with the media asking the stupid questions. >> bob: change the suspect. >> eric: ready for this? >> bob: food stamp president. >> eric: provider in chief says it's not his fault. use skyrocket 40% in three years. guess who he blames? the hint, his middle starts with a "w

>> dana: yes. you get moved around. >> dana: landing an oprah interview, even though her show is not on the abc network anymore, whatever it was, it's on her own network. having oprah decide that you are going to get an interview with her is a big deal. if you go to 2000 when al gore and george w. bush did interviews with oprah, a lot of people independents in particular said they looked at the interview and said they liked george bush more in that one. chris christie comes across in the interview as somebody you could have confidence in. you think maybe in 2016, he might be ready to run. >> eric: funny you say that. he did say that in that interview, that she asked why not now? >> bob: he would be more ready. >> kimberly: i don't think he thinks he can beat obama. >> bob: everybody has the same problems as al gore does, mitt romney. they were cast from the same mold. neither one of them can be inspiring. romney trying to inspire people? >> dana: i am looking for experience and ability. >> bob: wha

. >> dana: that's right. we talked about when cain left the race, whether or not it helped gingrich in iowa. >> eric: here is a very interesting question. rick perry drops out at what, 11:00 a.m. newt gingrich guess to the poeum at 1:00 p.m did rick perry -- they must have known it was coming? >> dana: they would have known last night. >> eric: why not stay in? >> greg: wait a minute. he didn't drop out. he suspended. >> my point is if this was so damning to newt, why wouldn't -- maybe rick perry would have had conservative vote -- dabs you kno -- >> dana: we're going to talk about 2012 politics after the break and then we talk about rush limbaugh because he took on bob beckel about comments on "the five" yesterday. we'll hear from rush direct. it will don't forget to e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back to "the five." more palmetto state politics. now competing for the conservative vote in south carolina, mitt romney is leading in some polls, gingrich and santorum. they have

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>> dana: that is not the question, bob. if president bush had done what president obama did, believe me the left would be screaming from the rooftop about abuse of executive power. there is a reason it's getting headlines. it's unprecedented. there is a question of whether or not it's even legal. but let's also remember what it was for. it was for the person that is going to head the consumer protection whatever it is going to be called now. >> bob: consumer watchdog. >> dana: political thing. talk where he made the announcement. this white house sent president obama to ohio to a high school. in front of high school students makes unprecedented decision. and tells the high school students that the republicans want to ruin the country by taking away all the safety regulations. >> bob: that -- >> dana: at a high school. >> bob: he happens to protecting them against the guys on wall street that ripped them off. now, the republicans are behind him and trying to stop it. that means that the republicans are trying to do away with

>> dana: i don't think so. if you look back, i don't think john mccain used ads from hillary clinton attacking barack obama in that pray mare. i don't think it's effective. it will be ads. >> eric: listen to the next s.o.p. romney is stepping it up and going after it. take a listen. >> we're not choosing a talk show host. all right? we are choosing a leader. choosing a person who somebody the leader of the free world. the free world should lead the entire world. speaker gingrich has also been a leader. leader for four years as speaker of the house. at the end of four years, it was proven he was a failed leader and he had to resign in disgrace. >> greg: romney calling newt a talk show host. has mitt looked in the mirror lately? he is a perfect talk show host. talk show host hair. >> kimberly: like maury povich. >> greg: people want newt to change his personality, but it's impossible. cagney can't become lacey. >> dana: batman can't be robin. >> greg: tango can't be cash. >> dana: but people say they want him to

>> dana: hold on. i said i think they should release it and get it over with, but i don't think you pay more than the law requires you to. there is not a single liberal that says i volunteer to pay more than mitt romney. >> that is the reason we ought to not have the capital gains tax. they don't get away with paying less -- >> andrea: why doesn't president obama reform the tax code? if romney made $1 million last year and -- >> andrea: >> bob: can we get back to the point? the point is he has not released his taxes. he has to release his taxes. >> the point is -- wait a minute. >> we need patrick cox of tax masters to come here. >> greg: let's be honest. half of america is not filing tax returns so they don't know what a tax return is. we should explain what it is. a thing you fill out. it's like working out a tip with the restaurant meal but the restaurant really sucked. >> andrea: can i say something without you biting my head off? please? >> bob: of course. >> andrea: greg made a point. a lot of am

dana, you're right -- >> dana: i want to understand, eric. how can you as a conservative question the character of somebody like john edwards, and then turn around and say it's a liberal media fault? >> eric: we talked about this yesterday in the break. how can you compare john edwards who stole money from his campaign and -- >> dana: that wasn't the reason that "people" magazine and "national enquirer" went after him. not the reason. i'm not comparing the two, i'm just saying on a character level when you are trying to make a distinction, you either have to have -- you know we all decide, it doesn't matter to me or at all or it does matter and that is something you factor in your decision. >> bob: i side with dana on this. the story has been out there about newt's infidelity and came in great focus when he took on clinton and we found out after the fact he was having an affair at the same time. open marriage, people may not make a distinction. they say he handled the whole thing with the open marriage question. that's what it was. it's not a

>> dana: what? >> can you imagine playing without aned a yens or going to a football game and not clapping? you want to get involved. that is what has been wrong with the republican party, no one invigorated the base the way newt has in the last couple of debates. try one without that and see how it feels. last night didn't feel good. i don't blame him. i don't think i would either. >> dana: it's good because you listen to policies and say well, wait. i don't know if i'd be for that, or i could be for that and hey, that makes sense. >> greg: listen to what newt said on "fox and friends" earlier about this. he wasn't happy. >> i wish in retrospect i protested when brian williams took them out of it. it's wrong. he took them out of it because the media is terrified that the audience will side with the candidate against the media. we will serve notice on future debates, we are just not going to allow it to happen. the media doesn't control free speech. people should be allowed to applaud if they want t

. >> dana: okay. greg? >> greg: i want to apologize about the couch. >> dana: rumors that you were on my couch. >> dana: my one more thing i was in the hallway coming up to do "the five" and i ran in to governor chris christie. they know the camera adds ten pounds? no, it adds 100 pounds. he looks skinnier in person than he does on tv. and speaking of tv, he will be on "hannity "tonight but not on "red eye" though i asked him many times to be on "red eye." he went be on "red eye." that ticks me off. i have been a champion of the big boned. >> bob: because your table falls over. >> dana: that is true. "red eye" is a great show. i recommend it. i saved the best for last. >> eric: this is a fun one. joe biden is talking in san francisco. doing a speech. he stands up and goes the giants are going to win! the new york giants are going to beat the san francisco 49ers? not one of your worst gaffes ever. i saved it. look at one of the worst gaffes ever. >> a man i'm proud to call my friend. a man who will be next p

dana said that. >> dana: i didn't. i said they invest more than anybody else. >> eric: only 23 years in the oil industry here. the amount of money that we subsidize the oil -- fine, take it away. it's not a lot of money. believe it or not republicans, take it away. as long as you pull back. scale back on some of the measures green energy measures which spending we're dwarfing money spent on the oil company loopholes in the green energy field. think about this for a second. we loan brazil $3 billion. $3 billion to drill. we loaned colombia $5 billion to refine oil. there is $8 billion. that's about the same amount of money that our u.s. oil companies are being given or are being allowed to write off on this. >> bob: what does that come down? >> eric: if you want to close loopholes on domestic american companies. >> bob: sure. >> eric: close loopholes on countries drilling our oil. >> bob: i'm not arguing with you about that. i'm saying let us not anymore subsidize the rich big oil companies. that's all i'm saying. >> gr

>> eric: always. >> dana: solyndra. >> eric: always. >> bob: you can argue -- >> dana: and government spending. >> bob: are you ever going to let it go? i didn't think you would so. that you said it. >> bob: reality is about these ratings are somewhat meaningless. can i go back to what you said in the opening? we are arrogant. we are arrogant. >> eric: in a poll he apologized for the arrogance. >> greg: let me make a point. the idea that arrogance is based on our own success and capitalism is a rising tide that raises all bolts. socialism is an attempt to legislate the tide. the big is venture dependency. we are in a country trying to create innovate i ways to get the public addicted to the government teeth so the government can expand. >> kimberly: do nothing and get somethg ee entitled. >> eric: really, really big -- >> bob: you ought to be -- [ overtalk ] >> bob: you are against social security and medicare. >> eric: i'm saying it's getting bigger and bigger. kim, isn't the ultimate test -- this was a carter, reagan idea. are you better off than you were three or four years ago? >>

dana? >> dana: when bob says the reporters don't necessarily want this over in south carolina because they need something to talk about. that is also true for somebody at the white house. if you are in that position as press secretary, because all of the reporters there are talking about the 2012 election. you as the president's press secretary aren't really supposed to talk about the election so much. you're supposed to push that over to the campaign and focus on the business at hand. but it's really hard to do that unless you're disciplined to say i'm not doing that. call the campaign. next question. but it's hard to do in the briefing room. >> bob: i'm not trying to suck up here because i love her so much. if but i were the current press secretary take out tapes of tony snow and dana perino and realize what it means to have a short answer. dana didn't want to say this, because she said it in the break. she said the longest answer -- it was too long. >> dana: it was long. >> kimberly: it

captioned by closed captioning services, inc >> dana: hello, i'm dana perino with andrea tantaros, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: our top story, developments on the campaign trail. first, newt gingrich's second wife maryanne sat down with abc news in what is called explosive interview that could trouble his campaign. a preview. >> i said newt, we have been married a long time. he said yes, but you want me all to yourself. calista doesn't care what i do. >> what was he saying? >> asking to have an open marriage and i refused. >> he wanted an open marriage? >> yeah, that i accept the fact he has somebody else in his life. >> you said? >> no. no. that is not a marriage. >> dana: despite the revelations, gingrich still got rick perry's endorsement today. he announced he is dropping out of the presidential race. >> today, i am suspending my campaign and endorsing newt gingrich for president of the united states. i believe newt is a conservative visionary who can transform our country. we have had our differences which

>> dana: salt. when we come back, we have the favorite segment one more thing. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk. but think about your heart. 2% has over half the saturated fat of whole milk. want to cut back on fat and not compromisen taste? try smart balance fat free milk. it's what you'd expect from the folks at smart balance. ♪ ♪ >> juan: time now for one more thing. last night at the debate, i'm in midst of all this hooting and hollering greg was talking about. booing me and all of that. they're talking off the mic, i'm getting up. so i think now i'll turn and see the audience. it turn, there is a large group of people there saying hey, juan williams, canvy your autograph? can i have a picture with you? i realized i work for fox. these people love fox news, and i'm wearing a fox news uniform. >> dana: and a red tie. >> juan: one more thing? >> andrea: they didn't do it at npr? >> juan: no, baby. different kind of mob. [ laughter ] >> dana: occupy. okay. >> andrea: pau

>> dana: that was denver, colorado. i can't get my hair to be that big now. >> kimberly: i love your hair like that. >> dana: i don't have the yearbooks anymore. it moved around lost them. it asked my mom to find a picture. that is not the picture in the yearbook but taken at the same time. array of selection. >> greg: were you voted most likely to be d dana perino? >> dana: that would have been an accomplishment. it offense the speech team. >> kimberly: me, too. >> bob: who is that movie by the jetsons, the -- >> kimberly: west side story? >> bob: you look like the lead of "west side story." >> kimberly: take it as a compliment. >> eric: we don't hide from cruitmy, greg. you look scott baoish, maybe. >> greg: that was a respected -- it's a dickey only the front part is real and you put it around your neck. >> kimberly: did everybody wear a tux? >> greg: everybody. >> bob: why did you wear your hair like that? >> greg: it was 1983. >> kimberly: your picture is freaking me out. i don't know what is going on there. i'm sl

>> dana: yes. yes. that is questioning somebody's bravery and courage and saying that barack obama had more courage and bravery and you know what in order to kill usama bin laden. it's like i just don't think romney would have done that. how can he say that? >> andrea: ryionny, no -- the i, democrats say this is obama's change. but he didn't change anything. he kept the bush policies in place. the seals -- >> bob: they got more of al-qaeda than bush in three months, in the entire time they were in the white house. >> greg: bob is right. but that is the only change that people like. all the change he promised, the progressive far left stuff he can't talk about because everybody hates it. the only thing that worked for him was conservative principl principles. gitmo. >> bob: do you think everybody hated that you could get college loans at lower interest rates? >> dana: i hope they keep on this. >> eric: generic republicans, that is polling, bob. we're not making this up. >> bob: you've got real candidates

>> dana: it's tough. at this point in the cycle last week before iowa, we did something on friday that 41% of the people are undecided going to iowa. i don't think it's true in new hampshire. they have to pull a rabbit out of their hat. there is a tricky thing, you don't want to be angry, you don't want to be too nice. you want to attack but don't want to destroy the other person unless you are newt gingrich, which could be interesting watching on saturday night. i'm going to pop some popcorn and get milk duds ready. >> bob: back-to-back debates. saturday night and sunday morning. >> brian: this is what i would do. this will impress you if you go on the campaign trail, you might want to make me an offer. if i am doing this debate, i am telling everyone not named mitt romney, talk to the people of south carolina. i don't -- new hampshire is lost. you are down by 24. if you are jon huntsman, pack up and i might not show up. he i thought would be registering in double figures by now. >> kimberly: brutal. >>

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