so nixon never made the call. and that caused uscost u us a l black votes. >> so in '68 he made sure. and also reaction to the assassination. >> yes. >> it is surprising, i mean given what you were saying earlier about nixon making civil rights kind of a civil issue for himself in the eisenhower administration. he might have seen this as an opportunity to get the black vote. in fact -- >> but, it was interesting to get the southern vote. >> it is interesting looking at nixon's position during these years, because like all politicians he has to try to court these two constituencieco. a lot of people said at a certain point he starts kind of figuring his support is going to be with white southerners instead of with black voters and is he thinking the winds are already blowing that way in '60 or -- >> he felt that g many and that the southern vote was very important to us, because eisenhowerasve sort of broken t democratic wall in the south. the nomination reagan tried to play to the south more. rockefeller was helpi

was performing so well and kennedy's guy was doing the opposite, show nixon, show nixon. was there a sense even before the thing was over as you were watching this unfold that it was not going well for him? >> no, we had no idea. neither did sall elensallenger. he and i talked about that afterward. both of us left with no way of knowing what the public reaction had been. there weren't great wires or things like that, like after the checkered speech. nixon went over to his hotel and he was dead-tired and went right to bed. i talked to him for a few minutes, rosemary wood did, then i and my staff went back to our first big job of spinning that we toll everybody we thought we won and salinger was doing the very same thing but nobody knew. anyway, we finally found out who had won was by crowds the next day. kennedy had a big increase in crowd and we had a decrease. of course, you know the story about radio and tv, you like someone on radio and kennedy on tv. >> in the sense that -- >> people listened on radio thought nixon won. it was shown in the polls and everything. people

they get back up to nixon. the whole idea was they did not want pics into sweats of the nixon people had seen them sweat profusely in the first debate. they all knew what was going on but this was about who is going to rule america by the way. >> host: chris you know as well as i do in particular today we like it to be about judgment of background. presentation, presentation. >> guest: kennedy was sweat was an calm, like a harbor dawn. the way he crossed his legs in the way he would look at nixon with that sardonic look every time nixon said something weird. sarge shriver said he won the election because of the way he looked at nixon quizzically like what is this guy story? the country was looking at nixon. his eyes would dart over. he would see those eyes darting and he couldn't stop his eyes for moving that way which is what is he did in the first debate in 1947 in pennsylvania. they had their first debate in key sport pennsylvania. they took the train back terse -- >> host: d'amico and at the nixon? >> guest

he gets in there and sort of psych out nixon. yes do i make a quick nixon years is that i want any. they go back in the room when someone says a nixon, i'll put up or he puts it. yes this mexican standoff because they are both much of an because kennedy has left open the humphrey, his primary opponent for using makeup. today everybody uses that. apparently the lighting was just brutal. you had to use make. so bill wilson put the make up on secretly in the back room. nixon comes out there with this horrible stuff called lazy sheep that this guy put on it and it's like just pouring off of him on camera. not only that, the kennedy people said they like people that were very thin. so you could see nixon's legs wobble. the new nixon was in bad shape physically and they wanted that to be seen by the public out there. they were cruel and they also wanted to make sure they had to stand the whole time and they waited until the very last minute. as the lights are about to go on, he waits and waits. he hides in the screening room until five seconds before. he says what's going on here? second

he starts to lose sight out nixon and ford in nixon and he says he doesn't want any and he says i will put on makeup on when he does so they have a standoff because they are both macho because kennedy laughed openly at humphries for using make up but today everybody does. the camera lighting was brutal you had to. so he puts on makeup secretly in the back rooms of this handsome guy still puts on the makeup so nixon comes out with this horrible stuff that is melting it is pouring off of him on camera. not only that kennedy said they wanted light currents that were very thin they knew nixon was in bad shape physically they wanted them to see that publicly they were cruel. also he had to stand the whole time and they waited until the last minute as allies are about to go on air, kennedy waits and waits in the green room until five seconds before nixon is like what is going on? the second debate city brings a temperature of turndown at 40 degrees it is in the locker he comes raising down to the basement to find a guy to turn the thermostat. there is a nixon and by standing guard and said l

nixon is going was going on here? second debate here in washington, nbc studios, nixon gets control. so he brings the temperature of whom can't afford to decrease. if if a meat locker. academies with bill nelson, my source on this. he goes on to the basement and changes the thermostat. as a nixon guy a synagogue in the thermostat. he says if you don't get out of the way the thermostat, return back to 65 or 70, i'm calling the police. they had another spin at there and ended up compromising on the temperature. the whole idea was they did and what in this way. so the nixon people at seeing him sweat profusely in that debate and they said were not going to let this happen again. this is about who is going to rule america by the way. >> guest: do you know as well as i do that today it takes to be about ideas and judgments and background. presentation. >> guest: kennedy was spotless, called. the way he crossed his legs in the way he would look at nixon but that sardonic look every time nixon said something weird. his broth

. >> i was a speech writer for president nixon. one of the of safire, brewing an ann of gergen -- and of course there were a the lot of memo written in connection with any presidential speech. so must get memorandum in connection with it. will you get it at the archives, this is more of an extrick aches of -- >> time will tell. >> you like those things, do you not? >> i lie the fullest possible record of any presidency. >> do you know that there is a school of thought that there should not be a paper trail because the situation the way it is in america today politicians are trying to trap other politicians that rush, is that -- does that become an enemy for you, those who maintain that they should not have a paper trail or those who use the shredder? >> the interesting thing it speaks to your generation and mine because we are ate same generation. paper trailers and shredders are things of the past. electronics records have become the major -- we have two major companies now developing pot times of the system that we call the elect

muskie was so strong, and also you have to remember that nixon -- not nixon, but lyndon b. johnson, was the standard bearer in 1968 until he decided to drop out. humphrey did not get into that race until lbj dropped out. he did not have the apparatus to go on. i think he probably would have been a good candidate. >> colorado, bud. you are on the air. >> thank you for taking my call and thank you very much for doing this series. we're talking tonight about one of my very favorite americans. the very first campaign that i was ever involved in. i have always been rather amazed at how much this country dismissed senator mcgovern and was willing to reelect richard nixon. i read jules witcover's book of the year it came out, while i was in college. i could not quite get it. i think the senator has proven himself over decades to be a very great american, and i'm really grateful for c-span presenting this program. >> jules witcover. >> i would agree with the caller that mcgovern was an underrated, under appreciated candidate. he was up against a candidacy, nixon's, that was very ag

. >> i was a speech writer for president nixon. one of the of safire, brewing an ann of gergen -- and of course there were a the lot of memo written in connection with any presidential speech. so must get memorandum in connection with it. will you get it at the archives, this is more of an extrick aches of -- >> time will tell. >> you like those things, do you not? >> i lie the fullest possible record of any presidency. >> do you know that there is a school of thought that there should not be a paper trail because the situation the way it is in america today politicians are trying to trap other politicians that rush, is that -- does that become an enemy for you, those who maintain that they should not have a paper trail or those who use the shredder? >> the interesting thing it speaks to your generation and mine because we are ate same generation. paper trailers and shredders are things of the past. electronics records have become the major -- we have two major companies now developing pot times of the system that we call the elect

. >> i was a speech writer for president nixon. one of the of safire, brewing an ann of gergen -- and of course there were a the lot of memo written in connection with any presidential speech. so must get memorandum in connection with it. will you get it at the archives, this is more of an extrick aches of -- >> time will tell. >> you like those things, do you not? >> i lie the fullest possible record of any presidency. >> do you know that there is a school of thought that there should not be a paper trail because the situation the way it is in america today politicians are trying to trap other politicians that rush, is that -- does that become an enemy for you, those who maintain that they should not have a paper trail or those who use the shredder? >> the interesting thing it speaks to your generation and mine because we are ate same generation. paper trailers and shredders are things of the past. electronics records have become the major -- we have two major companies now developing pot times of the system that we call the elect

it down yeah and at the time nixon actually had two nominations that had gone south that were turned down by the senate so it isn't clear at least to me whether nixon had a plan when he put powell on the court although i've heard a theory about the first two nominations being set up so he could get powell but i i don't know about that and so i have to say he had to know lewis powell was well known he was head of the american bar association various stablished lawyer as i said on the boards of all of these companies well known in virginia and nationally as a distinguished lawyer frankly just always corporate lawyer who's a very soft spoken southern gentleman he was indeed everything everything you hear about him he's described as you know mild mannered and gracious and i'm sure he was he just had a very corporatist sort of state of mind but you know the same day nixon nominated lewis powell he had to open and he nominated william rehnquist the conservative and these two actually turned out to be very different justices the conservative who we think of as the conservative william rehnq

turned it down yeah and at the time nixon actually had two nominations that had gone south.

nixon put him in the cabinet as hud secretary. >>> think romney has the father's dna? of course he has the dna! >> he's very driven. he's a handsome man. he's a successful man. [not understandable] >> yes, he is, father is a tremendously committed -- [everyone talking at once] >> very poor? >> his fact came out of poverty but his father got rich very, very fast. >> but his father was truly self-made. [everyone talking at once] >> if you listen to mitt romney on the campaign trail the stories he tells about his family are all about his dad and his dad rising in the world because mitt doesn't have access to the stories about himself. but the taxing is utterly confounding because you could have seen this coming a mile away, and it's been romney's weakest moments in all the debates the last two, when he has been asked about his tax returns when it's usually fluid speaker starts falling all over himself. >> look at the rockefellers. i think wealth is a plus in the political arena by reason of appearances. these people have made the american way. >> it is, john. jack kennedy

coming in his third or fourth campaign and saying, there's a new nixon. it's newt coming in and say, i'm not going to be a dirtball guy this time. this time i'm going to do it clean. we're going completely legit this time. then mr. pure, mr. nice, he's killing him with trash ads, all night long, all day long. >> yeah. >> meanwhile, not getting his fingers dirty. wouldn't you get mad? >> i would. i would be furious. and when i saw romney on "morning joe" saying, well, we can't tell them to stop, because we'd go to jail for that, it was ludicrous. of course, it's true -- >> on another occasion, he said he could have told them to stop. >> of course it's true you can't coordinate, but there's nothing in the law that -- >> well, as the rumor mill would have said, more of the raw seat of the hurricane. he's going after liberal judges. where we going here? >> welcome to south carolina and new hampshire. >> look at the base, i'm not saying it's what he's going to do. newt is ready to go after romney tomorrow night and sunday. >> the positive campaign is over. a l

coming in his third or fourth campaign and saying, there's a new nixon. it's newt coming in and say, i'm not going to be a dirtball guy this time. this time i'm going to do it clean. we're going completely legit this time. then mr. pure, mr. nice, he's killing him with trash ads, all night long, all day long. >> yeah. >> meanwhile, not getting his fingers dirty. wouldn't you get mad? >> i would. i would be furious. and when i saw romney on "morning joe" saying, well, we can't tell them to stop, because we'd go to jail for that, it was ludicrous. of course, it's true -- >> on another occasion, he said he could have told them to stop. >> of course it's true you can't coordinate, but there's nothing in the law that -- >> well, as the rumor mill would have said, more of the raw seat of the hurricane. here's newt again in his own description of his own campaign. he's doing some trashing here right in this interview. and his take on why the tea party can't stand romney. let's watch him, again. >> well, what was it like sitting in that hotel room, watching these

they get back up to where nixon, and they didn't want nixon to sweat. the nixon people saw him suite, and they were not going to let it happen. they knew what was going on. this is about who is going to rule america by the way, and this is going on. >> sam donaldson talking about his new book,

they get back to where nixon -- the idea didn't want nixon to sweat so the nixon people saw him sweat profusely in the first debate and it is let this happen again and what was going on, this is about who is going to rule america and the stuff is going on. >> ab in the suits but abc news sam donaldson interviews chris matthews on jack kennedy:elusive hero at 10:00 eastern on c-span2's booktv. >> now a panel presents a history of politics in the film industry examining the impact hollywood has played on the american political landscape. >> good evening. pleasure to see for a discussion of hollywood:left and right. i will be introducing the distinguished panel. i am louise steinman, curator of all-out and program director of the library foundation los angeles which presents all these programs. some of your members of the library foundation. the library foundation presents almost 80 or 90 all-out programs a year plus literacy programs, reading programs and if you want to be, member of the great work of the los angeles public library please give me a run of our staff members tonight and w

there was nixon making his speech. >> yeah, i've seen the tape of it. >> you see me looking like i'm sick. >> ray parson told me before i saw the speech that it is not as bad as everybody made it out to be and that although there's definitely some anger and resentment, there are also moments of coherence and are these contained. but it is another one of these classic moments of nixon on television having this very important effect on his career. >> actually, when i went back in the campaign in '69 i decided i bet better read it. ever since that moment i just go to mexico with my friend bob wilson and his wife and my wife. so when i read it again it didn't sound as bad to me. >> well that's what price said. he reread it or he watched it again. >> but the effect, he was an angry man picking on a couple reporters and richard burkeholtz was his principal target. >> but again it is impromptu. he is a man known for his preparation and being so careful. >> this went contrary to everything he had agreed to from the moment he got up in the morning. he just on an instant took the advice and we

they like nixon, bush, dole. they field worn in, scuffed a little, sure the shine is gone, but look how comfortable they feel. romney, nice fella, reagan put him in the cabinet, something to do with housing and that urban affairs. republicans don't do urban affairs, but somebody had to do it. the boy got scuffed up, too. that was good for him. made him a regular guy. this time mitt romney feels just right as a candidate. no rough edges, just good old mitt romney. i have a feeling that rick santorum or newt gingrich will have a hard time breaking into the line. it's his turn, and let ace face it, everybody else in the party seems to get it. is this democracy? well, not if you mean some wide-open thing when anyone can get into the game, not like the democrats when anyone can

tell us how william jennings bryan and nixon affected the dollar in their own times. >> richard nixon would roll over in his grave to be compared to william jennings bryan. in a fundamental way they were aiming for the same thing. william jennings bryant became the spokesman of the populist movement in the 1890'ss and at the heart of the populist movement was a belief that the financial system of the united states was tilted against farmers specifically. ordinary people generally but farmers specifically. they had a very specific complaint, namely falling prices for farm products. the price of corn went down by half between the 1870s at 1890s. cotton was a little more. this was a very serious problem for farmers because farmers typically operate under conditions of that and debtors are seriously disadvantaged when prices fault. if you are a $100 when week is $1 a bushel you have to grow 100 bushels to pay it back. but if it is $0.50 you need 200 bushels to pay it back. the fundamental goal for the trick behind managing a money-supply is to get the money supply to grow at the same rate

on richard nixon, you list him as mixed/negative. >> guest: oh. yeah, nixon... c-span: what is that? what is... >> guest: nixon is hard. not only that he came in--sort of in the middle ranking, i think. didn't he? >> guest: on both--on both scales... >> guest: if i'm re--recalling that... >> guest: he was mixed on both scales. >> guest: ...in that situation. >> guest: mm-hmm. mm-hmm. >> guest: but then that he had--and other biographers have dealt with this situation with nixon. this isn't off the wall. i mean, our--while we're trying to use our own analysis to categorize these presidents, others have talked about nixon in this way too, i think, as negative, as being conflicted about perhaps public opinion goals, success. c-span: were you surprised going in--i mean, you did a lot of analysis. when did you start looking at this data and say, 'oh, i didn't realize that was the way it was happening'? >> guest: the way it was going to work out? c-span: yeah. >> guest: the thing that i found most intriguing, and it shows up in that table and other places, too, the vi

so they get back up to where nixon -- the whole idea was they didn't want nixon to sweat, so the nixon people had seen him sweat profusely in that first debate, and they said we're not going to let this happen again. this is about who's going to rule america, by the way, and this kind of stuff's going on. >> this weekend, abc news' sam donaldson interviews chris matthews on "after words," saturday night on c-span2's booktv. >> once again trgs u.s. senate is about to gavel into session, they're meeting in a quick pro forma session, no legislative work expected today and it's likely, again, to be very quick. now we go live to the u.s. senate floor. the presiding officer: the senate will come to order. the clerk will read a communication to the senate. the clerk: washington, d.c, january 10, 2012. to the senate: under the provisions of rule 1, paragraph 3, of the standing rules of the senate, i hereby appoint the honorable mark begich, a senator from the state of alaska, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. the presiding officer: under the p

and a turning point in the watergate scandal took place 38 years ago today, when president richard nixon refused to handle over tape recordings and documents. nixon would resign presidency later that year. >>> and happy birthday to nfl hall of fame coach don shula. the winningest coach in college football turns 82 today. happy birthday. >>> all day long, stay on top of the very latest developments on those stories and others as they break on msnbc. tonight, watch brian williams with nbc nightly news. >>> and what's coming up on "today" show. after last night's tight race, gop front-runners mitt romney and rick santorum speak out in live interviews. donald trump weighs in and will be unveiling the new cast of "celebrity apprentice." keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports, and much more. i'm veronica de la cruz, thank you for watching. your first stop of the day on your nbc station. have a terrific wednesday.

. >>> up now, missouri governor jane nixon delivering the state of the state. jane nix-- this about 50 minute. introduce me? >> when they get seated. please seated. ladies and gentlemen, the governor of the missouri, jay nixon. >> thank you to the legislative leaders, judges of our supreme court, lieutenant governor and state officials and you a tall members of the general assembly. it's an honor to be here this evening joined by the love of my li life, my wife. we are zoinjoined by members of family throughout the gallery. over the last year, my missouri communities have braved unthinkable haunthink able hardships and nonmore so than jov evelin. time and again the people of missouri have met those challenges with unwaivering strength and determination. a few months ago on the first day of school in joveln, i met a remarkable young man named quinton anderson. he is a senior at joplin high school. he is a science wiz and hopes to create new vaccines some day. graduation day this year will have a very, very special meaning for quinton as it will for so many in jo

one was richard nixon, and the other was lyndon johnson. and, actually, it was the other way around, sorry. anyhow, they were incumbents. they were way ahead in the polls, and they had no reason to debate, and they just said no. there was no way of putting pressure on them. and the only reason they started again in 1976 was because gerald ford, who was the incumbent but, he was 20 points behind. and i interviewed him about this. i asked him, why did you do? he said, it was the only chance i had to gain ground on jimmy carter. because otherwise going the regular way wasn't going the work. so he challenged carter to the debate which was unheard of. and carter agreed. and he, they came within three points. i mean, it worked from -- then ford, of course, had a problem in one of the debates where he said the soviet union didn't dominate eastern europe. that hurt him. but, basically, the debates helped him gain ground big time on, on carter. and, but more importantly, it established the fact of presidential debates. there were, you know, and no c

and nixon did that because you have to do those things. and we didn't attack china, we didn't attack russia, we didn't attack pakistan or india. the israelis got their nukes partly from the united states. so i think the united states should engage the iranians to try to prevent them from going nuclear. i'm not sure they want to go nuclear. i don't think the american intelligence agencies have no firm data that they're going nuclear, so i would engage them. i would have taken a look at that turkish/brazil proposal, you know? >> host: uh-huh. >> guest: and also, look, they're not a threat to the united states of america, for heaven sakes. we've got thousands of nuclear weapons -- >> host: they haven't invaded anybody in 250 years, but they have been invaded by saddam with our backing -- >> guest: with our support. [laughter] >> host: put the shoe on the other foot. >> guest: well, i agree -- >> guest: they're scared of us. >> guest: well, i think they are. i believe they are, and i think they were very apprehensive when this story broke. i t

in it the former nixon adviser argues that america is suffering from a moral and social collapse that may be permanent. he discusses his claims with ralph nader, consumer advocate and four-time presidential candidate. >> host: good day. pat buchanan today on his book, "suicide of a superpower: will america survive to 2025?" i'm going to give you a television eternity, pat. take three minutes and explain your thesis or theses -- you actually have more than one -- and what would you do about that? >> guest: well, one of them is i don't think the united states is going to be the last and lone superpower by 2020. i think china's rising so fast, it's going to be a military virtual equal of the united states and an economic equal, so we're going to a bipolar world. secondly, i think the american state, the nation-state, the government is in deep trouble, ralph, and cannot balance its budgets or secure its borders or win its wars or stop the hemorrhaging of its manufacturing base overseas. we lost six million manufacturing jobs in the first decade of the 21st century, some 55,000 factories s

that was my nixon! no! no! you don't deserve my nixon. (laughter). (laughter) (cheers and applause) do this now or face the full night of our secular multicultural society. it's a... no, that's not a president. it's a world where christmas will have to share statehouse rotundas not just with jews but with hindus, buddhists, wiccans, santeria, atheists and, of course, muslims. (laughter) we will fight until we live in a world where free americans everywhere seek not validation of their religious beliefs through macy's signage. where nonsectarian greetings are not seen as diminishing the the most ubiquitous two-month holiday immersion since caligula's birthday party. (laughter) until that day, i wish you and your family in this season a happy and heart felt end of the fiscal fourth quarter. (cheers and applause) >> jon: welcome back to the show. honestly, we're just recovering from herman cain dropping out of the race. you may have seen my writers' retithatrkews of herman ca's withdrawal. >> no! no888 it's not supposed to happen this way! >> oh god, oh

they did not want nixon to sweat. nixon had seen them sweat profusely. they said it would not happen again. this is about who will roll america. >> he interviews chris matthews on his new book "jack kennedy, elusive hero." >> in this place, it will stand for all time. monuments to those to father the nation and those who defended it met a black preacher with no official rank or title who somehow gave voice to our deepest and most lasting ideas. >> president obama is joined by civil-rights leaders and the king family for the dedication of the martin luther king memorial. also, a civil war scholars look at the direction of the war. sunday at 3. now john kerry became a vocal opponent of the vietnam war. >> in a few moments, debbie wasserman shultz on the 2012 campaign. then it mitt romney campaigned in south carolina. after that, a fund-raising event with president obama in chicago at the university of illinois. >> debbie wasserman schulz on the new hampshire primary in 2012 campaign. shoes at a political forum for she was at a political forum. this is abou

my dad and i and sister told us how the rnc and richard nixon had photographs of john f. kennedy going in hotel rooms with other than women. is nixon going to use these photographs against kennedy to win the election, and my father said no, and he shouldn't. it is not our jobb to get in the personal life. it is our job to find out if he is president of the united states of america. your personal life is your personalife. so many people in that room went through divorce and tragedy and as newt gingrich said. and i take personal life and move it to another block if you will other than the political life because that is what my father taught me. with bill clinton lying under oath it matters. >> you are right. but he was not our guy. we'll go after their guy and not go after our own guy. and that is always a problem in politicings. i have been consistent with it all of these years and so many people talk about reagan and the party wants to be like ronald reagan. it is like the 10 commandments and only follow sevenof them. >> if you are lucky, myself include. more after it is

he is the first person in 12 to mtert. >> and you said it's more nixon than reagan. >> totally more nixon than reagan. >> rose: what are you seeing? the numbers? what do they tell you? >> we haven't had a shift like we've had in the past week and a half in a long time. maybe gary hart in' 4, who was someone who ran against walter mondale who was seen as a dull establishment candidate at a time when democrats were undergoing a lot of trauma. and he had a very long nomination contest with mondale but ultimately lost. that is one scenario for romney who still does have some tactical advantage these caucus states in february should be good for him. he's well organized. michigan is a good state for him maybe arizona which votes in february, there are mormon voters and so forth. so if he can hold his ground in florida, too close to call or if he win there is that might give him an advantage he does have a lot of money. he does have the support of the establishment for the most part, although that's kind of a mixed blessing in some ways now. we have a surrogate attacking gingrich as a part of th