i am not a dog walker, but i have often used the services of dog walkers and spent a lot of time with my dogs in the park, and i have got to say, for example, and i am here really to speak only about the limit on the number of dogs, and no matter how much of a dog whisper a dog walker is, when those dogs come out of the car and come into the dog park and scatter and do their business, it is virtually impossible to see and act on nine dogs that are pooping at the same time, can i also agree with ms. katz that pointed up the other problems you have when you have a large number of dogs, so i would suggest that the regulations recognize some of these issues and that the number be limited a little more. supervisor wiener: they keep. ms. stevens? >> hi, sally stevens, sf dog. the route the years, we have stress six or seven dogs per dog walker. when dogs are not under control or when pooper is not picked up, it reflects badly on all of us, whether you are a dog walker or a dog owner. less than six i do not think it's economically feasible at all, because the price will go up, and it will pr

the dog walkers are fine. i watched them and introduce myself to some of them, but this has been a profound invasion of my life, and i am forced to have that dog barking all day long. i could not attend the meeting the other night at the diamond heights association. i know you weren't there, supervisor, at the invitation of track. i have led -- live there in my present apartment since 1995, so i feel betrayed by everybody because it is under the radar, and with all the calls that i made to your office, and one lady, and she said the park is here tuesday, you should probably get some plans to cope with it. i had a conference call with the planning department, some very nice ladies. their names escape me. i am not prepared in two minutes to spill my guts. i've been listening to this for years. somebody discovered apart and putting on the internet, and their dogs that are there day and night. supervisor mar: thank you, sir. your two minutes are up. >> i just have one less thing to say. supervisor mar: please wrap

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dog walker coalition. we wanted to thank supervisor wiener so much for everything you have done. i don't know if the other walkers understand 40uf6 care he has taken in considering our needs. we really owe him a great debt of gratitude. i just wanted to touch upon any kind of irritation anyone might have with the regulations. training needs to be mandatory for new dog walkers. a well behaved group reflects well on all of us. we have been condescended two or judged by private owners due to the poor behavior of an unskilled walker. these regulations are going to benefit all of us in the long run. we will be strengthening the integrity of our profession and demanding the same respect that would be given to the skills that our job demands. i want to thank scott for allowing an internship program. classroom is great, but interning with a veteran is extremely valuable for learning the skill needed for dog walking. i wanted to touch on the numbers. seven is great. eight would be better and this is why. financial

i'm not a dog walker, but we employ a dog walker for my dog to go out three times a week. so she is not a full-time client. basically what i'm afraid of, and why i am here, i am afraid these regulations are going to drive some of the small business dog walkers out of business by the seven limit cap. as you heard before, a lot of the walkers -- evidently not all of them, but a lot of them need flexibility where their client can call up and say can you come today, or not today and come tomorrow. that is going to eliminate some slots. my dogs can't go out five or six days a week to hold that slot. you have heard that dog walkers take other dogs from their grooms. if there is an emergency that arises, what are they going to do if somebody gets sick, and they need seven dogs spread around and the other walkers won't be able to accommodate that? those are issues i see. secondly, i don't see a direct correlation between park safety and the number of dogs that a dalk walker brings in. i think there are other factors, the controllability of a group, the size and age of the dogs, th

, keeping in mind that there are dog walkers who only walk two or three dogs, dog walkers who walk a lot more. and i think that there was a pretty broad -- not consensus but a strong majority of dog walkers who expressed concern that six dogs would have a significant negative economic impact on the ability of people to earn a living, to run their business. now, i think the small business commission went too far when it recommended nine. and obviously i started out with seven. i've always thought that seven or eight would be a good approach. but i do think that six would be very damaging economically to a lot of dog walkers and so i'm not supportive of going there. so i will not be supporting this amendment to go to six. i think eight is a good number. i think six is definitely too low and as the author of the legislation who spent an enormous amount of time working with all the stakeholders, i would ask colleagues that this amendment be rejected. supervisor farrell: thanks, president chiu. i don't know what the right number is here. i don't think i can find this so i'm going to defer

walkers in my company. myself and two others. the one person is our main employee, and the other person is basically her manager, does all of the scheduling, does not actually walk every day but will cover for the other person, so given this legislation, i would have to buy a dog walking permit for both of those people even though only one of them walks on a regular basis. my proposal would be something like where the business actually gets all of the dog walking permit stuff into place and then you'll have a separate tier for employees were all they have to prove it is the trading, because under all of the other regulations, i as the corporation owned the vehicle, the insurance, the liability insurance, and we add that walker to the liability insurance, so our walker does not have any of those other things, and it would be very hard for her to prove that she has all of the other stuff. in regard to the fees, i think it would be interesting to look at just like one tear basically a independent contractors a

, the dog walker muffed at least three years of experience as a walker. you can't have a brant new dog walker train a new one. it lowers the threshold for dog walkers into the regulated cat combore from walking four or more dogs to two or more dogs. i got feedback that it would be unfair to distinguish dog walkers and require only those walking four or more at a time to get a permanent, so it has been lowered to two. in terms of publishing the names of people who violate the ordinance. that will be limited to people who violate the ordinance three or four times in a 12-month period. in other words, serial violators. the big popic of discussion is the number of taugs. there has been a debate between six and eight for a while. the legislation compromises at seven, but i welcome feedback today for people to expression their issues on that. and i look forward to hearing from my colleagues to see what they think about it. i will note that the golden gametime national recreation area and presidio trust have contacted me. they are going to be implementing their

there are so many non dog walkers that are walking dogs. in terms of enforceability, if you are a part officer, and you see someone walking two dogs, you would not know if that person is a dog walker, but if it is odd or six dogs, you have a better idea. displaying this on a lanyard, we do not think it is enforceable, asking the committee to move this back to the original for those walking four or more dogs. those are what we are proposing. the maximum number, as i mentioned, was amended by the committee, 8, 9 with a personal blog. since then, i have received and a substantial amount of input from dog owners, dog walkers, and a number of my colleagues who expressed that that is too many dogs and that that is not acceptable, so i just want to put that out there that i do not see that we will have support at the full board for eight plus 01, so when we are done here today, we can have a discussion about the appropriate number of dogs, and i do have a suggestion. i am going to suggest that we keep it at 8 instead of the nine, and i think that

commissioner walker: i understand that. the goal, we want policies that encourage the project to happen as well. using the leniency as an incentive to build is always better, rather than another extension at the end. maybe there is a graduating -- you want to encourage people to build as much as you can. and that is the goal. commissioner hechanova: when is the provision under the category of ownership that could change? if there was one toxic project for building, and the transfer of ownership, does that automatically transfer also? is there a requirement for reapplication? >> the project runs with the property. with the owners. in other words, if you want to sell your project to another commissioner, you can do that. the entitlements are the same, no extra requirements to change ownership on a project, except to let us know. commissioner hechanova: on a transfer of title or deed, would need to be updated to who has applied as the owner of the building for the permit? >> yes. commissioner murphy: the new owner would have t

i worked closely with various dog walker groups, with individual dog walkers, with dog walking businesses, with dog owner organizations, with the spca, which is supporting this, with animal care and control, rec and support. the dog walker, dog owner groups as well as the spca are supporting this legislation. we had two hearings with a lot of feedback at the land use committee. also a well-attended hearing at the small business commission. this legislation would set basic standards for professional dog walkers by requiring training or apprenticeship, by requiring certain safety standards for equipment and for vehicles, require dog walkers using city property to have a permit from the city. in addition, this would limit the number of dogs that a professional dog walker can walk at one time on city property to eight. a couple of things, first of all, the number of dogs has been a continuing topic of discussion . there was a long debate between six and eight dogs. when i introduced the legislation i compromised and put seven. when it went to the small business commission, the small business

which might explain why governor walker is in texas today begging for more money for the latest on walker's quote disc on his quest for cash in the recall effort against him i'm joined by john nichols washington correspondent with the nation magazine john welcome to the show it's good to be the two so. what's walker up here right now he's down in texas right what's he doing down there well visually he's down there to speak to a group called the texas public policy foundation now this foundation isn't really like some noble group that gives money to poor folks it's really a texas variation on the american legislative exchange council the group that the koch brothers another stone and passed it anti-labor and i democracy legislation in the states so walker is down there officially giving a keynote speech telling these people how to pass and labor laws but in reality he's gone back to texas which has been the source of more than ten percent of all of its campaign fundraising since the reply recall effort began e's raised more than five hundred thousand dollars out of texas by most estimates an

scott walker still seems sure of himself. at least he sounded that way this morning. >> we're going to get a chance to do what's never been done before, have a chance to be elected twice in the same term. >> you know, maybe he will be elected twice in the same term. with guys like hank greenberg and the cook brothers behind him, a billion percent, all the other motivated billionaires he has on his side, john nichols wrote about how 10% of the money that governor scott walker is known to have raised to stop the recall effort against him, 10% of that money has come from texas alone. with all that money, governor scott walker can presumably raid infinite money and maybe he will win when the recall election happens, consider the bigger picture of what is going on. 2010 was a huge year for republicans, not just at the federal level but particularly in the states. in 2010, republicans swept in office across the country. state legislatures, and governorships in particular. and then they started governing in the states accordingly. i

how involved is walker? how could he not know if his office is 25 feet away from alleged illegal activity? >> well, and remember also, we're talking about tim russell here, who was in so much trouble a week or so ago and is listed in this complaint. his name's all over it. tim russell was for a decade scott walker's wingman. the guy who was at his side in everything that he was doing. another person who's listed in this, all over it is the guy who went on to become governor walker's chief of staff. and the woman who was charged with four counts of misconduct in office, it went on to serve as a fund-raiser for governor walker's campaign and was working for that campaign, right up until recent days. so it's hard to imagine the governor didn't know about this. i think it -- >> yeah, how does it affect the recall? >> it becomes a much bigger story. you know, most of your viewers have watched the debate what the governor walker did with the labor unions. they're very conscious of that as a central issue. but in w