because pakistan continues to. stand continues to lose in terms of economic costs in terms of the social cost i think sometimes that is not emphasized on enough so we continue to lose in many many ways but some times the rule that is put on pakistan is a rule which is understandable which defies logic so to speak because if the first country to benefit from is stable understands pakistan and the first country to lose from in you know unstable understand is also pakistan so pakistan stick a very high and that is what is commonly believed that yes pakistan sticks are very high but pakistan sticks are very high in having stability in afghanistan not instability in the stand so we have maintained and we stated very clearly that it is really for the one people to determine what course of action they want to take in any way possible whether they want to have strategic alliance a country a country b. it's a sovereign country we must respect them as that but pakistan's rule in any way can only be there to support of i thin

the collaboration that pakistan has had in the last ten years pakistan has paid of a heavy price for that but it is also a fact that pakistan inhibits the region inhabits the region and will continue to have the street and this region has some serious problems the region has some serious problems put into terrorism and pakistan has always maintained that it is important to have collaborative joint efforts to be able to rid the streets and rather than follow sort of unitary approaches. in how we want to rid the street and you mentioned. the price of your involvement in afghanistan has been pretty high many thousand of your citizens lost their lives millions of people have been placed there estimates that it cost your country around seventy billion u.s. dollars but we often hear criticism about pakistan's or all. involvement in afghanistan found the american side do you think the united states treats you fairly. i would like to answer that question by seeing the. two solid robust partnership is that each able to live or operate within the bounds of what is. believed to be you know what

pakistan. she's the youngest foreign minister and of all that has to deal with some of the toughest security challenges he not rabani khar pakistan's foreign minister is joining us now on r.t. thank you very much for your time minister it's been more than ten years since pakistan joined the u.s. military operations in afghanistan do you think that was the right thing to do you see if. you would you know things look very different but of course. the collaboration that pakistan has had in the last ten years pakistan has bit of a heavy price for that but it is also a fact that pakistan inhibits the region inhabits the region and will continue to have the street and and this region has some serious problems the region has some serious problems but into terrorism and pakistan has always maintained that it is important to have collaborative joint efforts to be able to rid the streets and rather than for law sort of unitary approaches. in how we want to rid the streets and you mentioned. the price of

in pakistan. sports with. hello welcome to the latest sports news and here are the headlines this thursday afternoon staying put china's for lexie agrees to stay at russian champions the need for another three years while moving on fabio capello quits as england manager the months before the european championships leading tottenham boss harry redknapp to succeed him under fashion victim russian side who takes a step closer to beating you only took sixteen with a narrow loss to all money in. that first football and a coach to china's plenty has signed a deal to stay at the st petersburg side until twenty fifteen the news is a boost for the russian champions who are preparing to host benfica in the last sixteen of the champions league next week well this is the furthest the club have ever reached in the competition and continues the successful lessons had since joining from roma back in two thousand and nine winning back to back russian premier league titles over the last two years so they are currently six poin

when you see that image, you have the leaders of iran, pakistan, and pakistan, what do you think goes through the minds of u.s. officials that you used to work with it? >> iran has in the past hosted the presidents of afghanistan and pakistan but it has usually been in tehran. this is the first time that pakistan has brought tehran on board. it is suggested that with the relationship between the united states and pakistan in its decline, pakistan is looking to iran in order to help them manage their relationship with afghanistan. i think that they are banging together in order to protect their assets. >> this is coming at a crucial time. we have hamid karzai going into this meeting saying that his government was having talks with the taliban. what does he hope to gain? >> he was stretching the truth. these are still between the u.s. and the taliban. president karzai wanted to send a signal that i am already talking without you and i want you to deliver to the table. there is a lot of tension between pakistan and afghanistan. that is why they need iran in order to manage afghanistan. >

so pakistan stick a very high and that is what is commonly believed that yes pakistan sticks are very high but pakistan sticks are very high in having stability in that one is not instability in the understand so we have maintained and we stated very clearly that it is really for the one people to determine what course of action they want to take in any way possible whether they want to have strategic alliance with country a country b. it's a sovereign country we must respect them as that but pakistan's rule in any way can only be there to support of i think seeing that pakistan is cause of the problem and is creating trouble is an imaginary solution it is an imaginary blame it is an imaginary looking for an answer but the real solutions to real problems have to be faced you know on the ground now as we all know that the united states has been taking on a lead role in this military operation why do you think with all its military power and the resources that are invested into this campaign why anything. results are not that impressive as a few there could be i think i'm not the right

it... these are unfair allegations on pakistan. pakistan has done so much. we have lost over 3,000 soldiers and officers in this war. we have cleared so many areas. so many al qaeda leaders have been apprehended by our intelligence agencies. of course, there was a sharing of intelligence with the... the other side, as well. so, with these kind of performance and record, if still someone is not... not satisfied, then we are not to be blamed in this. >> smith: but frontline's investigation found that taliban leaders still move freely around the country. my colleague, stephen grey, made contact with a taliban commander operating from pakistan. he arranged to meet him just outside the capital, islamabad, not far from where osama bin laden was killed last may. the commander told us how dependent the taliban is on sanctuary in pakistan to wage war across the border. >> grey: and is the border hard to cross? >> frankly, we don't know on any given day what side the pakistanis are on. there is overwhelming evidence that, you know, even as the pakistani government tak

>> we have had a troubled relationship with pakistan. by letting this collapse the way it has and applying pressure, it has not worked and clearly it is providing new opportunities for both pakistan and iran. it is much better for them to be engaged pakistan and keep them away from iran and create a certain stability. >> there is obviously speculation about what will happen to iran, and the potential is re the attacks of the nuclear program. -- any israeli attacks on the nuclear program. was there any discussion about that? >> there is a lot of sensitivity because there is a lot of anti- americanism and pakistan. if it comes to all our -- if it comes to a war, you will see strong support for iran and pakistan. that will complicate the situation as well. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> yesterday, the united nations called for syria's president to stand down and for the violence to end. it looks like that message has fallen on death ears. in the capital of damascus, a five people were killed outside a mosque. -- it looks like that

the collaboration that pakistan has had in the last ten years pakistan has.

so again do we want to repeat the mistakes again clearly pakistan doesn't think so and pakistan has got to go to that it is illegal. counterproductive just last week. and i've heard reports was like to the media that pakistani security forces and maintaining contacts with. terrorism and extremist organizations that are operating in afghanistan as far as i understand there was it when. an allegation that they're supporting them financially. is this true first of all this is not a need to report we were told by need to at least that this is a. single person not report but is being the country and the single person. pretty much. all the border because this is not a new accusation or allegation which have been made and the specific context of the mention where with the taliban of alter intelligence agencies i think every intelligence agency in the world particularly the ones which are working in of on some indian style with one group or the other and all of them at some level and these does are now pretty much out in the open because people are openly talking about that so i think just crea

what about afaaia you talked about pakistan and the debates going on within pakistan. were you able to talk to any of her members of her family in karachi? her family did not cooperate with me. i did -- i did have contact with her former in-laws from her first marriage and her first husband so i did get to know them a little bit and learn from them something what aafia had been like before she disappeared. i also got got to know some people in boston who had known her as a student and as a young scientist and mother. >> host: and what is the impression? was there any hint that one day she'd turn out like she did turn out? >> guest: well, in a way because she was well-known in boston as a student, at the fundraiser for jihad. she started out during the bosnian civil war and she was raising money for the bosnian mujahedeen defending the bosnian muslims and then she -- as time went on, she began to see the united states as the enemy of muslims. so people who knew her well -- people who knew her in boston knew that about her so it wasn't perhaps that surprising. >> host: n

that pakistan inhibits a region. the region and will continue to have in this region and this region has some serious problems the region has some soup.

pakistan says it is committed to non-interneerns pakistan but the document has brought that commitment into question once again. >> yes. very, very strong allegations in this report. not just material support. for the table. across the border but also specifics about where senior members of the afghan table and their relatives might be living right next to the intelligence agencies and there's one line in that report that talks about relative of the hakani network a wing of the table livering right next to the offices right near islamabad but as you said the government here basically brushed off these allegations and they will undoubtedly claim the intelligence is flawed in this report, but as you say, it's looking more and more to the outside world that their claim of non-interference in afghanistan is simply a lie. >> we've sort of been here before, haven't we? >> what is the sense of the people in pakistan? do they feel that the intelligence services do work closely with the table? -- with the taliban? >> i think there's some recognition from the public that there is this going on a

the new pakistan ambassador to pakistan a very articulate woman. my own daughter is one of them come a ph.d. from cambridge became the first ever director of the center in the world of cambridge. the of the one at georgetown, cities are muslim women, american, british, whatever, but they are still living in their own traditions and comfortably adjusting to the world. now the danger is conceptually if you remember the center the average reader who knows little about islam and has so much controversy and debate and discussion particularly in the united states the danger is that they may think that is only their offer that the muslim women are either completely extremist and want to block the west and kill people and so on and on the other hand, they want to reject islam, said you think that there is a danger of an effect pushing the reader into that trap on the intellectual trap of missing out the main street or the central? >> guest: i don't think so because i talk about that in the book as you know that one of the frustrations that muslim women hav