i don't think there are a lot of details about mr. holmes. my understanding is mr. holmes was a graduate student and dropped out of his graduate program recently. it's not clear why that happened. if he was having some kind of psychiatric problems that might have affected his studies, his ability to go to school. brevik was angry with norwegian society. i think he had what i call a wicked rage for recognition. also some of the school shootings we have seen. we see this phenomenon. these are very angry individuals. they don't know what to do with their anger. they do have a need for some attention. some recognition. they often feel powerless, helpless. and this is sort of their acts are often their last way to have trying to express their feelings. >> i was wondering about this. you talked about perhaps about motivation for this. is there anything that suggests that's the case or is it something that that's the pattern you have seen before? it could be a a lot of motives for this. how do we know attention would be one of them? >> in the case of mr. holmes i can't spe

holmes or allegedly did mr. holmes or the actual gunman, if it's not him, sit there and spray this theater? >> good morning. i heard you guys talking about that briefly. i don't know. i know the call came in at 12:39. i'm only guessing the calls started coming in immediately after the shooting started. i have been asked how long it took us to get here. this theater is literally two blocks away from the main police headquarters. we have numerous officers in assignments scheduled to get off at 1:00 a.m. we had a bunch of officers in the area. witnesses said it seemed like an immediate response. i'm guessing less than a minute. to answer the question how long he was shooting, i don't know. witnesses did state it went on for k-- i'm trying to think of the words. but it lasted quite some time. was that ten seconds? i don't know how long that was. >> i'm sure for some of them it end es up in slow motion. every second feels like a minute. >> exactly. >> explain what officers are doing now. i know you set up at an area

i have no idea if that's what went through mr. holmes' mind in this case. that is the kind of thing that's really common. >> they have the self-awareness to recognize you're suggesting how they might sound. >> right. >> is there a pitfall? people are scared to talk to folks who they think potentially might be dangerous or maybe they just don't take the time. is there a pitfall to avoid when talking to someone that you're concerned about? >> yes. don't give your opinion. and that's the biggest mistake people make is we give our opinion. when somebody says things like i don't really want to talk about this but i think the cia has got us under surveillance, you know, my eyes and other people's eyes get wide at least with what i used to do and we try to reassure the person. instead, pardon the expression, but i learned frankly to shut up and listen. you don't have to agree with the person. you shouldn't lie and agree with the peon. just don't jump to looking incredulous or doubtful or judging what they're telling you. and what you'll find is they'll open up. an

apprehended mr. holmes in the back of the theater. >> across town, one more threat. the shooter's apartment boobwash trapped full of trip wire and bottle of unknown substance. >> we could be here for hours or days to figure out how to get in there. we're concerned about getting in there to get whatever evidence there is. the pictures are disturbing. it looks sophisticated in terms of how it's booby trapped. >> in southern california, the shooter's family offer remorse. >> they are cooperating with law enforcement and they ask for your patience, indulgence and respect at this time. >> reporter: bret, at the suspect's apartment, three miles from here, we are told authorities may go in less than two hours to put their own device in there and set off whatever is inside. once again, they have a number of bottles inside, filled with liquid intertwined with wire. what appears to be boobytraped. they look through windows. robot and bomb sniffing dogs. they want to try to start to

the warning signs are things like we're hearing about in the case of mr. holmes. sudden change in functioning, withdrawal, becoming isolated. sometimes that can be confused for depression. the easiest wave to find out is to engage the person, talk to them, ask about the change in their behavior, spending a lot of time alone. how you're feeling. are you feeling sad or blue? >> it's interesting because i think that that particular issue had a lot of people wondering this week. many people with mental illness may not recognize that they themselves have it and refuse offers of help. i mean, how do you -- how hard should an average person push? say it's a family member, for example. what is someone to do? >> i'll speak first personally. as a family member, i had a brother, high brother henry, had schizophrenia. his illness emerged very, very slowly. i was 21, he was 28. he had actually been ill since the age the 24. and i thought his problem was he was lazy, he was -- giving up on life, he was immature. in fact, he was exhibiting what are called the common negative sym

holmes has told you about her son? >> mrs. holmes has not told me anything about her son. i don't have any other statements about that. yes, sir. >> she indicated she was worried about it. >> did ycould you read the stat from the family for us? >> no, i will not read the statement. you have written copies of it. i will also be sending copies to the media distribution list. >> does the family have other siblings? >> we're not discussing that at this point. >> do you have any idea of the moefsh a motive and why he was in colorado? >> he was in colorado attending school, and the investigation is very early, and that is the purview of the agency in colorado. we have no comment on anything related to the incident in colorado. >> do you know how long he's been attending school in colorado? >> i do not. i have no information about the motive or the shooting or the investigation at this time. yes, pauline. >> do you know if colorado authorities will be coming here to talk to him? >> i have no information about that. it would make sense, but i have no information about that. >> it'

mr. holmes lives at 1690 paris street. we responded up there fairly quickly after we identified him. our investigation determined that his apartment is booby-trapped with various incendiary and chemical devices and apparent trip wires. so we have an active and difficult scene there. it may be resolved in hours or days. we don't know how we are going to hane that. we have evacuated residents to a safe distance. it includes five buildings in the area being evacuated. we have been asked how many folks were in the theater. we can tell you there were four showings of the batman movie. all of them were sold out. we have interviewed close to 200 witnesses. as to how many people were in the theater, that's the best i can tell you. caution about social media. please, as responsible journalists, be careful. we are analyzing all social media that is out there about this event. i can tell you that we are already finding that there are a lot of pranks. there is even someone who called a national media station and represented to be me.

did mr. holmes have a complete mental breakdown. it's possible. the probability exists that mr. holmes has associated himself with a character in the batman movie. be it the ridler, the joker, or maybe even one of the s.w.a.t. members of the local police department. he was armed with body armor, helmet, goggles, gas masks, cs gas, weapons. it's all a part of his 15 minutes of fame, if you will. >> and you had pointed out earlier too that he was arrested without incident and that's important. >> that's very important because in most cases the perpetrator does what? suicide by police, he allows the police to shoot him or he shoots himself. he didn't want that to happen in this particular case because he wanted to be here to tell his story. >> he wants to it play out. >> he wants to tell them not only did do i this, did i commit this crime my apartment is bobby trapped. you don't want to go there either. >> what are you thinking of when you see the police trying to go into this apartment. >> they have to be meticulous and bring in the experts of the experts. no question about it. >

he was just walking. >> mr. holmes was apprehended outside in the back of theater. he was apprehended with three weapons. >> holmes immediately surrendered. police observed his hair was dyed orange. he told them, i am the joker. he also told them the movie theater, his apartment, and his car were booby trapped, just like the comic book villain would do. a full hour after the rampage began, the story broke over the airwaves. by then, 18 ambulances were there, triaging the victims and transporting the most serious cases to six local hospitals. 12 people killed and 58 injured. 70 victims in all. so many, the police turned the back seats of their cruisers into makeshift ambulances. >> back is full of blood. don't know if that matters or not. >> full of what? >> blood. >> by 2:00 a.m., holmes' apartment block was evacuated. as the bomb squad started assessing the booby traps. they were extensive. >> we don't feel safe but we don't have the expertise to enter. >> reporter: today inside dozens of hospital rooms, survivors tried to make sense of this. >> it was fully calcul

we know that mr. holmes is apparently a highly intelligent individual burr where does one get all of this information to be able to booby trap and rig this apartment the way he has. pardon me, according to some reports from our mike tobin out there on the ground that this guy holmes spent two months planning to massacre. >> sure as a medical ph.d. student he has a vast understanding of chemistry. combine that with publications on the internet, such as the anarchists cookbook, you might understand how he would arrive to this. >> and they were already able to disarm a trip wire and an a couple of other contained explosions there. and again, i want you to tell me if you can, captain. what are some of the dangers that still could possibly lie ahead for those bomb squad officials out there trying to disarm this highly sophisticated booby trap apartment there. >> again, i think the highest threat comes from the multiple layers that one can expect from this type of a booby trapped apartment and as well as an

we have no other criminal history on mr. holmes. this event began at 00:39. so 39 minutes after midnight, the first calls came in to 911. i'm told by a colleague, you could describe it as hundreds of calls coming in. within roughly one minute to a minute and a half, police officers were on scene and apprehended mr. holmes in the back of the theater. there were approximately 25 officers on scene within minutes. they spent besides searching the theater a good portion of their energy on taking victims and placing them immediately in police cars and driving them to local area hospitals. in the end, with the assistance of our colleagues and law enforcement in this community, there were around 200 officers on scene here. mr. holmes was apprehended outside his white hyundai parked in the back of the theater. and he was apprehended with three weapons in the car. and one was left at the scene inside the theater. the weapons are as follows, assault rifle, a remington 12 gauge shotgun and a 40 caliber glock handgun. we believe those three weapons were used in the scene.

there was a report overnight about a person who was an acquaintance of mr. holmes. we have since contacted that person. we are trying to contact every person who was an acquaintance of mr. holmes to find out as much as we can. that's all that was. i think, based to what i know, i would describe their relationship as incons quential. but we did speak to that person last night, as part of a massive investigation. in the days and weeks ahead, we hope to speak to everybody who knew mr. holmes. >> reporter: i know there is much investigating to do. can you tell us why do you think this happend? >> oh, i can't begin to explain this. i can't explain any of these shootings. they are unfathomable. >> reporter: is the suspect being cooperative? >> let's put it this way. whatever he might be telling us is not for public discussion. but he is represented by an attorney and he is not speaking to us at this time. >> reporter: there are reports that his gun, the ar 15 he was firing in the theater, that it jammed and in some ways, other people are alive because of that. can you con

it has a contained communications from mr. holmes a doctor fenton that mr. holmes asserts of privilege. holmes is expected to be formally charged on monday. dirichlet's we tended to restock descendant of run successful the university says it cannot comment tuesday ongoing gag order. will we do know is that the doctor did obtain grants to study schizophrenia. >>> and warner cbs news centennial colorado. a famous comedian paula does for a joking about the shootings here's the dinka said in los angeles. harry in a dozen of hitler for of party in england for a halloween and people us all met we're not crime-fighter's we're just a sustained. >>> private investigators solving a case faster than the police? also many people and hiring the zero detectives to do the dirty word. did waves face of stocks hitting new low howl adults could be contributing to the sides downward spiral? experts did lead to an 98 his the world's oldest living libyan the one thing is bay area man remembers most about the games aside,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, playing field cbs reporter tony lopez s

owed not only the viewer but also mr. holmes the innocent one a full retraction on the air. this goes into too good to check, couldn't wait, didn't even apologize. >> does nobody stop and think maybe we ought to check this out before we go to air with it? >> that is the interesting question about this episode. everybody makes mistakes but where were the editors? where were the people who would say maybe we ought not to put that on the air whether until we found out whether or not there is another jim holmes which there was whose e-mail was overflowing and whose phone was ringing off the hook and he never got an apology from any one at abc. >> after the gabrielle giffords shoeing there was some effort to pin that event on the tea party sarah palin and the ads she had taken out, all of which was wrong. >> it is completely distasteful. you have the horrible tragedy and people are jumping to try to say let's blame it on a tea party or a political party. at the same time you had breitbart cite sizing this and by the way this guy might be a registered democrat. they are doing the

>> judge, we've advised mr. holmes (inaudible) >> thank you, mr. king. >> reporter: the hearing's purpose was to inform holmes of charge he is would soon face. >> you've committed the offense of first degree murder, a class one felony under colorado law. >> reporter: the prosecutor will file those charges by next monday and the public defender is expected to soon file a motion for a mental health evaluation-- routine in these cases. >> you shall refrain from contacting, directly or indirectly communicating with the victims. >> reporter: this is holmes' mug shot. the 24-year-old suspect is being kept in solitary confinement. prosecutors say they do not know if he is on medication which might explain why he looked dazed. at times almost dozing off during the 12-minute hearing. holmes did not seem to make eye contact with anyone in the room. five members of victims' families came to court to see the proceedings. among them, ian sullivan, the father of six-year-old veronica moser sullivan, the youngest victim. >> in a case like this, the investigation

holmes to dr. fenton that mr. holmes asserts are privileged. >> this morning, there are some questions about holmes' psychiatrist. dr. lynn fenton was by the board. some of the shooting victims remain hospitalized this morning. >>> back overseas and what may be the decisive battle in the syria's civil war. heavy fighting is reported there this morning. government forces are pounding the city. a u.n. official says 200,000 people have fled aleppo. >> reporter: demolished tanks and rubble littered the streets of aleppo on sunday after troops pounded areas held by rebel forces. the president's troops say they have recaptured parts of the country's largest city. u.s. defense secretary said asad's latest attack proves they lack the legitimacy to rule. >> i think it ultimately will be a nail in asad's coffin. >> asad's regime struggling to maintain power over the last two weeks now. but on sunday, government forces declared victory in damascus and used heavy artillery in aleppo. >> the key right now is to continue to bri

we have no other criminal history on mr. holmes. this event began at # 0039, so 39 minutes after midnight the first calls came in to 911. you can describe it as hundreds of calls coming in within roughly one minute to a minute and a half police officers were on scene and apprehended mr. holmes in the back of the theater. there were approximately 25 officers on scene within minutes. they spent, besides searching the theater, a good portion of their energy on taking victims and placing them immediately in police cars and driving them to local area hospitals. in the end, with the assistance of our colleagues in law enforcement in this community there were around 200 officers on scene here. mr. holmes was apprehended outside his white hyundai parked in the back of the theater. he was apprehend ed with three weapons in the car. one was left at the scene inside the theater. the weapons are as follows. they are a 15 assault rifle, remington 870 12-gauge shotgun and a glock handgun. we believe those were used at the scene and another .40 ca

mr. holmes was apprehendsed outside. a white hyundai parked in the back of the theater and he was apprehended with three weapons in the car. one was left at the scene inside the theater. the weapons are as follow. an ar-15 assault rifle. a remmington 870 shotgun and a .40 caliber glock handgun. we believe those were used in the scene and another glock handgun was found in the car. we're not sure if that was also used in the scene. i imagine i'll be asked how many rounds were fired. any my answer is we have to capability of calculating that number. our best account on injuries is that 71 people were shot. 12 are deceased. two died at area hospitals and ten are deceased in the crime scene at this time. we're making best efforts to identify and remove those ten. there are many critical patients and i'm not in a position to give you any update on the 59 who were injured. we believe that as part of this assault mr. holmes set off two devices to distract the crowd. they ignited in some form and released some sort of irritant o

' attorney mr. holmes was a psychiatric patient of dr. fenton and his communications with her are protected. that attorney is now trying to get ahold of that package and the contents of which according to cbs news supposedly describe how holmes would kill people. the information is privileged according to holmes' attorney, confidential, and should not be in the hands of police. i want to tell you this, that on monday school officials including the campus police chief did answer some questions and i want you to specifically listen to this exchange i had with the police chief regarding the holmes interaction with campus security. >> did your department or any of your officers have any interaction with this student whatsoever? >> i don't have any information on him at all. >> did you do a records check on him? >> yes. and as you already know, i think it was a traffic ticket from aurora. that's it for us, them, and everyone. >> nothing ever brought him to your attention in any way? >> we've had no conta

holmes. (inaudible) all let me correct not record, i did not shake his hand because he did not walk at commencement. 4,000 others did but not mr. holmes. >> neuro science is one of our more rigorous majors in the biological sciences and with that they study obviously chemistry and physics, and, also, brain anatomy and physiology and psychology and how we all behave, so he was focusing in the areas which is strongly emerging academic areas across the country. a very fascinating field. (inaudible). >> i do agree. it is ironic. >> i think the part for campus like ours is a community like ours, at the end of the day, we stick together, in good times and bad. the overall field i have received so far today on campus and in our community is one of not only shock and horror, but support of each other and those who knew him directly or worked with him to make sure that they go through their grieving process. at the end of the day and all day long, quite frankly, our campus is embracing the families an

holmes. mr. holmes will be advised of what he is in custody for and what they're investigating and the charges most likely to be brought. >> and the district attorney, i understand, is carol chambers. she's pretty tough, i understand. two of the three people already on death row in colorado have been put there in part by her. >> she is the elected district attorney. i don't know whether she's going to be the one assigned to actually prosecutor the case, but the decisions to be made about what should happen, what charges will be filed and what punishment they will pursue will be made by her, at least in the short run. of course, she is term limited and come november there will be a new elected d.a. in arapahoe county that will be the individual that will then make the decisions on how to proceed. >> do you expect her to seek the death penalty? >> well, i'm sure it's going to be a very serious consideration, but district attorneys, those are one of the most important decisions they do make. i think

holmes to mr. fenton that mr. holmes asserts are privileged. holmes is expected to be formally charged on monday. ♪ ♪ today, funerals were held for three of the shooting victims, including 18-year-old a.j. boyt. he graduated high school in may. tia anthony would have attended art school with him in the fall. >> the fact that he was an artist and he was so young, just so young. >> reporter: she came to remember him at this memorial across the street from the site of the shooting. relatives of another victim, alex sullivan, was also there. they told us alex is in a better place, but they said pray for the family and friends he left behind. we tried to reach dr. fenton today but were unsuccessful to get any comment from her. the university said it can't comment because of the ongoing gag order. scott. >> pelley: anne awe know dr. fenton's a psychiatrist, but does she have a spocial? >> reporter: the university won't say, scott, whether she has a specialty, but we do know she's been given grants in the past to study constituencies sc. >> pelley

with regard to mr. holmes a lot of questions about motive. we're not going to talk about motive but i will reassure you that again with the assistance of our friends in the fbi, the fbi behavioral analysis unit is fully plugged into this investigation, and those folks are very, very talented at what they do and over the coming weeks and months they'll be working very closely with us to try and figure out what his motivation was. but again, whatever we find out in that arena we'll present that in court and that'll be to help us in terms of getting justice for the victims. now, back to the paris location i just want to emphasize, the question was asked earlier. again, we talked about motive. we talk about defenses. we talk about deliberation. make no mistake. okay? this apartment was designed, i say, based on everything i've seen, to kill whoever entered it. okay? and who was most likely to enter that location after he planned and executed this horrific crime? it was going to be a police officer. okay? make no mistake about it. what was going o

mr. holmes, do you have any question about that initial advisement? >> thank you, mr. king. pursuant to crs 181001 we are to enter a mandatory protection order. my violation of the protection order can constitute in a new criminal offense and/or contempt of court. it is the order of the court you shall not harass, molest, intimidate, retaliate against, or tamper with any witness to or victim of the acts you are charged with committing, shall vacate the home of the victim, stay away from the home of the victims, and stay away from any location the victims are likely to be found. you shall refrain from contact, being directly or indirectly communicating with the victims, shout out possess or control firearm or other weapon, shall not possess alcoholic beverages or controlled substances and it is the further order of the court that you are not to commit any new offenses. if you would approach, please, ms. pearson. i just signed a mandatory protection order. give a copy to mr. holmes and acknowledge this right on the record. >> charges which are request -- >> we are asking for a

holmes to dr. fenton that mr. holmes asserts are privileged. mr. holmes was a psychiatric patient of dr. fenton and his communications with her are protected. "outfront" tonight, drew

holmes to dr. fenton that mr. holmes asserts are privileged. mr. holmes was a psychiatric patient of dr. fenton and his communications with her are protected. "outfront" tonight, drew griffin, who has been investigating this story. good to see you. let me just ask you what you think the significance is of this package, the letter and the court filing, where they're saying this is privileged. >> well, i think the significance is we now know that holmes, this person who's accused in this horrendous crime, was seeing a campus psychiatrist before the shooting took place, erin. and what does that entail? we don't know. there will be a lot of questions not only from prosecutors but from so many families as to what that communication, what that treatment was for. what was holmes telling his doctor about what was going on in his head? and the logical question is, what, if anything, should or could that doctor have said or done to try to intervene in what was this horrendous event. >> with her there, right, that there could have been images of someone shoot

holmes to dr. fenton that mr. holmes asserts are privileged. mr. holmes was a psychiatric patient of dr. fenton and his communications with her are protected. "outfront" tonight, drew griffin, who has been investigating this story. good to see you. let me just ask you what you think the significance is of this package, the letter and the court filing, where they

mr. holmes, do you have any questions about that initial advisement? >> judge, we've advised mr. holmes [ inaudible ] further advisement in this case. >> thank you, mr. king. pursuant to sr-c 18 you're under a mandatory protection order. any violation of the protection order can constitute a contempt of court. it's the order of the court you shall not harass, molest, retaliate against or tamper with any witness to or victim of the acts you are charged with committing, shall vacate the home of the victim, stay away from the home of the victims, and stay away from any of the locations the victims are likely to be found. you shall refrain from contacting, directly or indirectly communicating with the victims, you shall not possess or control firearm or other weapon, shall not possess or consume alcoholic beverages or controlled substances, and you are not to commit any new offenses. mr. pearson, if you'd approach, please. i've just signed a mandatory protection order and give a copy to mr. holmes and acknowledge his receipt under record. -- request -- charges, which are request -- >