rick perry will opt out. good luck. if rick perry opts out and the people who die prematurely because they opted out of healthcare, they will have no hope. but they like texass hospitals and tax payers will still have their freedom. freedom to move to another state. freedom to move to one that has compassion that wants its citizens to live a healthy and productive life, wantses hospitals to be world class and wants its hospitals to get what they paid for. governor perry if you do opt out of healthcare reform, you won't have to secede from the union. instead, i reckon come election time texans will is he succeed from you. it's a good thing that we have women in washington like jacki speier fighting the radical republican agenda. congressman speier, welcome back inside "the war room." >> governor, it's great to be with you. >> jennifer: now great to have you on. thank you for joining us. now let me get right to the vote. there were five democrats who joinedepublicans today in voting to repeal obama-care. how do you feel a

is there is place for rick perry in a romney administration? >> i think there is a place for the governor to be talking to governors like myself. a host of governors who are having very successful economys in their state, we all have good relationships with hitt, so i suspect he will have that really good back and forth with people with practical knowledge of how you keep the american economy going and you allow states to compete against each other. i suggest to you on the medicaid issue. if they want to have all across this country, people with better access and more affordable health care, block grants of the states back, not one size fits all like we're seeing out of washington dc. >> rick perry, congratulations once again. we want to remind you you can now go to cnbc.com, go to top states, and you can let us know what you think on twitter. we'll be back here from austin, texas tomorrow to look at some of the individual categories and get reaction again. texas, america's top state for business. >> thank you for that, a quick shout out to my

rick perry suggested that romney be as, quote, as conservative as you can be. as mitt romney heads to ohio today, it did not help that two supporters took campaign off the message. former governor john sununu apologized for saying this. >> the men and women all over america who have worked hard to build these businesses, their businesses, from the ground up, is how our economy became the envy of the world. it is the american way and i wish this president would learn how to be an american. >> then bloggers pounced on former senator john mccain when asked he did not choose mitt romney as a running made in '08. he told "politico" because sarah palin was a better candidate. why did we not take the other people? why didn't i? because we had a better candidate. we have chris and john with us this morning. good morning. >> good morning. >> john, we have this long list of high profile republicans who are saying romney should release taxes and get it behind him. there are reports that people in his camp are divided about this. do you think the national review is right a

and i think rick perry, this move helps that. on the other hand, it doesn't look like romney wants to replay that card. it doesn't help him because right now people want somebody who's going to pull the country together and just sort of move this and implement it, not obstruct it. and republicans are starting to look like obstructionists on this, i think. jon: well, so the federal government is holding out this candy here, states, we're going to pay for all of your medicaid needs until 2020, and after that we're going to pay for 90%. now, sounds great, but we all know what the budget situation is in this country. who's to say that in 2020 it doesn't become 75% or 60% or 50%? >> well, but by opting out and saying we're not playing and letting the federal government come in and set up the exchanges, rick perry's letting happen exactly what he doesn't want to have happen. he's letting the government, the federal government have more control over health care in his state. more impact on it. so what a lot of this is about the politics

michele bachmann called him a chameleon and rick perry called him a vulture capitalist. if republicans are saying these things about your nominee, what do you expect the democrats to say? >> hogan, is the concern with the returns that he is far wealthier than we realize, or is the concern he paid, he perhaps paid a far lower rate than many americans would be comfortable with? >> well, being on the inside of one of these campaigns, craig, i can tell you, there is no lack of strategy advice from the peanut gallery. those who aren't in the race and don't have the facts you have behind the scenes. i'm not exactly sure what they're not wanting to show, but, look, this has been an issue throughout his political career and obviously that campaign is smart. they know what they're doing to a large degree, as we could argue that. but i think they know what they're doing here and they've made the political calculation that what's in those will hurt far worse than the attacks for not releasing them. that's where we are today. >> keith boykin, how do you think this tax return stuff p

ron paul and rick perry and the national review. >> rick perry may not have realized he was talking about his party. you have to cut rick a little bit of slack here other than that, republicans are looking at this the way normal people are. >> yeah. one of the few times that's happened. they are saying, you know come on. get on the program here. >> and of course, so the romney campaign trying to shift back. right trying to go change the subject. they send out john sununu as a spokesperson. >> that was effective. >> saying, i wish barack obama would learn to be an american? this is a replay of 2008, you know, in my book "the obama hate machine" i called it the otherin of barack obama. they try to paint him as not american, foreign, different. >> look they at least changed the topic for two hours until sununu had to apologize. he has done this with regularity though. he would pop out there over the past couple of years and make comments that were just a little bit over the line of what acceptable even in the lower standards that now dominate our political discourse and, of course, he under

calls now from right for mitt romney to release his tax returns, we saw there rick perry. founded by the late william f. buckley, conservative legend perhaps there's not a publication that personifies the gop establishment, the wing of the party that mitt romney is part of. they said this, quote, release the returns. john kerry actually released returns from 1999 through 2003 and also released tax returns during his senate runs. as for teresa heinz, romney isn't the wealthy spouse of a candidate, but the candidate himself n 2008 john mccain released two years of returns, but he has been filing out financial disclosure forms for decades as a senator. what does mitt romney do on this issue where he's getting this much flack from the people that are closest to him? >> i think a lot of people thought they would try to ride this out. he has this trip internationally with -- themed around the olympics, then maybe make the vp pick. this story might go away. that might be something that they're still counting on, that they might try to do. you're right, the national review, that i

we reported earlier that governor rick perry will be in nevada today campaigning on behalf of mitt romney. just a note, romney is not expected to be in attendance at that event. at the top of the show we asked you why are you awake? pr

now if you are a donor to rick perry, you don't care because you are rich. you don't care about the 26% of the population that doesn't have insurance. but over a quarter of the population not in great shape would be helped tremendously. that's 6.6 million people in texas. you think rick gives a damn he doesn't give a damn. >> deliver health care for our citizens -- >> how is that? >> every texastan has access to health care. it is not going to work it is a failed system block grant back to the states if you want success in health care in the country. >> you mentioned that texas is really a magnet for a lot of folks. are you able to hear us okay? >> yes, i can. >> he had another great point to make about health care. he just forgot it. the reality is texas would only pay 3% of the bill. the federal government would pick up 97% of the bill and he still won't take the money even though his citizens need it desperately. now that's a dangerous clown that's hurting the people in this country. all right. so i guess, perry wins. congratulations. now when we come bac

in the form of rick perry and this gentleman, mr. romney says that he'll repeal and replace obama care. i haven't heard one person tell me what they're going to replace this with. explain. >> to be fair, they have come up with ideas. just ideas that won't work. things like selling insurance across state lines. >> we know that works well. >> torte reform. >> none of those are addressing the core issues, which is cost of health care or the uninsured. >> first million people. >> right, so they have talking points, but they don't try to address those problems. i just want to come back to how the health care law is changing politics now. have we've seen the polls move, how we'll move after implementation. we haven't seen a lot implemented already. now, the debate is do you want stuff taken away from you. many don't understand what's in this law, but they certainly don't want things taken away from them. this whole debate will get framed up for these governors along with states that do take this funding, where this law is being implemented

opes rick perry has a penchant for getting things wrong and this issue is no exception he has paid attention to how do you paid attention to the brennan center is the most recent meticulous research he found is unique take on election integrity is anything but common sense so let's take a look at what conclusions this report came to over one point nine million voting age texans live more than ten miles from id issuing offices that's twelve point seven percent of the state's electorate and more than half of those don't drive cars so this isn't a state with one of the lowest levels of investment in public transportation then there's the fact that no idea issuing offices are open on saturday and in the rural border region sixty one percent of the voting population is hispanic and nine of the eleven idea showing offices are only open once or twice per week to top that off twenty two point four percent of the area lives below the poverty line so the need to free i.d.'s which the state does provide but the cost of obtaining a birth certificate which you need to get an idea in texas is twenty two d

i think some of these governors, not rick perry but some of them will come around. easy to say it now when the law isn't in effect, before an election. once the hospitals and some of the other parts of the health care industry start lobbying for these provisions, i think some of the more reasonable governors to the extent there are reasonable governors left in the republican party, will come around. >> ezra klein makes that point, too, which is that sometimes historically, these sort of bigger entitlement programs, social welfare programs, take awhile to get adopted. arizona only in i believe 1982, being the 50th state to adopt medicaid, 16 years after it was first implemented. >> politically, even beyond reasonableness, just political, the political calculus at a certain point, unless they decide in these states not to provide health care for poor people, which is possible in some states, it's going to become incumbent upon them to say let's take this federal money temporarily with no strings attached in order to help us balance our budgets and supply health care.

and others a protege of governor rick perry. they will wait to see how much power the tea party has in this race heading into november. and co-host of top line and abcnews.com, rick klein, great to see you again. thanks for being here. >> hi, dane huh. >> why should anyone across the country care about what's happening in texas now? >> it's two conservative republicans against each other but the tea party on one side and the establishment on the other. ted cruise is up-and-coming politician. anyone gave him a chance when he entered the rays because the popular lieutenant government was in the race. he had a lot of the establishment on his side but has ted cruise upended expectations. now he is favored going into the voting. it would be a big test for the tea party if they were able to pull it off. it would be a maturation of the tea party movement. >> what was it policy wise or politically that separated him from dewhurst and made people want to follow him? >> it's really politics even more than policy. both men are staunchly co

rick perry's not going to carry water for mitt romney. the conservative movement is not going to carry any water for romney because he's done nothing but try to destroy many of their candidates in the last two election cycles. this is why he's not going to get some of the political cover that will george w. bush got in the past. you're seeing that in some of the analysis that conservatives are giving of the romney campaign. we're being far more honest about romney than we were about bush. if you were the romney campaign, i'd say i will release my paper trail when the president relations his. where is his college transcripts? where is all the transparency what he did before he was in the illinois state sneempl are you kidding me. >>> margie, you believe that that is a fair equation here on one breath, you say that governor romney needs to be more transpare transparent. he is running for the highest office in is this country. the american people need to know more about his tax returns and you are saying this. aim not saying this. this is wh

of years as governor rick perry has done practically nothing when it comes to health reform in texas and today as a consequence texas ranks dead last among all fifty states when it comes to health care delivery twenty five percent of the population of quarter of all texans are uninsured and the state ranked weak or very weak in nine out of twelve categories according to a recent study by the agency for health care research and it's also causing a fiscal crisis as texas hospitals absorb more than four point six billion dollars in unpaid emergency room medical costs since so many people in that state don't have health insurance and during the reagan administration reagan pushed for a mandate that if you show up and i help in a hospital emergency room you must be cared for so in other words if you're sick stay the hell out of texas other than the e r's a state that republicans in congress want to emulate when it comes to health reform but that's not all today's obamacare vote means it also means that republicans are we've four months to go until the election. fully committed to crashing

rick perry will campaign -- texas governor rick perry campaign for romney. >> pepco will answer tough questions today. they will come from the d.c. council and it is about how the utility's responded to last month's storm. this comes amid a proposal that could prove costly. john gonzales is live at the wilson building with more on what we can expect. >> may be some irony here. this is the day when pepco was supposed to find out if its rate increase would be approved. instead, the utility company will face tough questions from the city council and could eventually face a hefty fines. >> majority of residents that the better part -- spent the better spart in the dark. >> they never prepared for anything. >> pepco recruited response teams from around the country and canada, trying to keep up with the devastations the storm left behind. officials say this latest weather emergency highlighted just how weak the utility company is when it comes to being prepared. >> it was terrible. they did not know whether they were coming or going. they could not make a reasonable prediction. >> officials

perry done texas who this week announced that his state is going to opt out of obamacare that he will not set up free market health insurance exchanges to give millions of texans access to affordable health care that he will not take billions in free money from the federal government to expand medicaid to cover an additional one point eight million low income taxes and that's because he like the republicans in congress who voted today to repeal obamacare they have a better idea when it comes to health reform message passing vouchers or to do nothing at all for twelve years as governor rick perry has done practically nothing when it comes to health reform in texas and today as a consequence texas ranks dead last among all fifty states when it comes to health care delivery twenty five percent of the population of the order of all texans are uninsured and the state ranked weak or very weak in nine out of twelve categories according to a recent study by the agency for health care research and it's also causing a fiscal crisis as texas hospitals absorb more than four point six billion doll

the state of texas governor rick perry said, oh, the answer is the voting right act is inconstitutional. we don't need it any more. it's hold history. but they would have a better argument if they do in the keep passing laws that would make it heart to vote. >> eliot: rick perry was going to include the justice department--michael wadl man president of the brennan center of justice. thank you. >> thank you. >> eliot: it will take more than votes and fractioning a lot of money. more than you've ever seen. sir... excuse me, excuse me... can i get you to sign off on the johnson case... ♪ we built this city! ♪ don't let food hang around. ♪ on rock & roll! ♪ [ orbit trumpet plays ] clean it up with orbit! [ ding! ] fabulous! for a good clean feeling... eat. drink. chew orbit. vanguard: the documentary series that redefined tv journalism. >>we're going to places where few others are going. >>it doesn't get anymore real than this. >>occupy! >>the award winning series "vanguard" only on current tv. >> eliot: mall factors on wall street just love to blame their problems on the prosecutor

for you and rick perry to argue about. >> we fight. he is the competition. he is absolutely the competition. they have done such a great job. they've just been doing it so long. he's won the "ceo" magazine survey eight years in a row now. we're number two. i told him next year -- comes out in may -- next year, we'll clearly be number one. texas is the competition. >> governor, you had a huge bump in your popularity up to over 40%, and now it's back down. do you understand what the heck's going on down there? do you pay attention? could you be re-elected today? >> oh, i don't even think about that. i'm doing what i ran on. i mean, i won because i said i'm going to hold government accountable, reduce the size and cost of government, reduce taxes, go after jobs. everything i do, i talk about how we're going to get our state to be the number one place for jobs. this election, like mine in 2010, is all about jobs. people need jobs. we still had 800,000 people out of work, but we've dropped the number of people on unemployment from 568,000 t

like i said rick perry. >> sean: race card is about serious. i don't think bill clinton ever got over it. >> i talk tuablgsd to him monday he had a fund-raising thing. secretary of state is the most important job of the administration. >> sean: you wrote this line, it's the economy stupid. i agree with you and middle-class we agree on that. >> i hope so. >> sean: romney says it's still the economy and we're not stupid. here is the question, are we better off economically than we were four years ago and five trillion dollars in debt. >> we were 750,000 jobs, we were losing them per month. had this recovery had been everything we hoped for? we find out financial crisis was very tough. we've had a really understandably but half a million public sector jobs here. >> shep: so less americans working now than what obama took office? >> private sector jobs are up. they got more private sector recovery, more than the recovery of 2001 at a comparable time, more private sector jobs. it's an insufficient pace, i completely agree with that but that is a fac

. >> rick perry -- know him from regular on fox news. a well-known democratic party strategist. is the victim of a crime. >> we are very concerned about him. >> surveillance video shows them whileg into the 7-eleven on the phone. lays some things down on the counter. a police report says the guy in the white shirt is a suspect. at one point you see him swipe a .ell phone he confronts them and even the guy's pants. the guy said would come will knock you out. when mercer leaves and then describes what he saw. >> when the man came outside, just knocked him out cold. head on the concrete. >> bob has known a mercer for 15 years. >> he has a heart of gold. >> a police fire calls the man under shirked a person of interest. families, it is nice. is safe. >> friends of david say he was severely and is the hospital tonight. is just part into barely get move it around at this point. eventually he will be ok. >> thank you. new at 11:00 we are hearing the tape from the mother of dez after she says her son attacked her. made that callt on saturday. her arms whens on police showed up. she says

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. >> rick perry, in the highly- anticipated entry of his race -- >> you may know david mercer from regular appearances on fox news. he is a well-known democratic strategist. sadly, he is now also the victim of the brutal crime. >> we are concerned about him. >> surveillance videos show mercer walking into the 711 while on the phone on thursday night. he laid things down on the counter. a police report says the guy richard is a suspect. at one point, you see him take a cellphone that belonged to mercer. mercer's soon confronts him. at one point he touches the guy's pants to see if the phone is their. >> the guy said, i will not two @. >> soon after, the suspect leaves. when mercer leaves, a witness describes what happened -- >> when the man came outside the man in just knocked him out cold. he hit his head on the concrete. >> he has no mercer for 15 years. >> david mercer has a heart of gold. >> besides the one suspect, a police fire called the man in the white undershirt a person of interest. >> people were going around. >> a job kids, family -- it is nice. it is safe. >> palau -- david me

perry is a good example because he initially, you saw the sort of rick perry of governor making sense on the hpb vaccine initially and he back pedaled from it, turned around and did a jump-shot to pro tend the hpb vaccine was a bad idea because somehow it became government encroachme. you saw the politics impact people's health in that. >> exactly. the texas legislature much like the u.s. congress spent as much time trying to eliminate poverty as they do trying to make sure women don't get abortions, then there would be no poverty in texas. they pay 80% more than others in other states because they are covering the uninsured. this expansion would alleviate a burden for folks who are already buying their own health insurance. >> let me reinforce that. the taxpayers of the texas are going to pay this. the economy in tax is going to lose because they are turning down billions and billions of federal dollars they need and spend billions on uncompensated care for those with low birthrate babies that will cost a fortune. it's the taxpayers and the citizens of texas and their economy, and we

he picked rick perry early on. the national debut and response to the state of the union address fell flat. all three do meet the age limit of 35 to become vice president. john breckenridge came close to that. others are teddy roosevelt and richard nixon. >> we are getting into the super secret vetting process of the campaign. let me bring in ashley parker who talked to people on the inside. fascinating article, ashley. besides of reviewing questionnaires, you report team romney is considering the candidate's speaking style. tell me about that. >> obviously that is the not main criteria. in people we talked to for our story, that was one thing they were mentioning. they are watching the footage and in addition of how do they happened the hecklers and is there a voice grainy or inviting? >> speaking style is important. would that rule out somebody like chris christie? he gets people wound up, but it's a little in your face. >> exactly. we had a story today on governor christie. one of the things that people were say

rick perry will also campaigned for romney for a first time in a public event in nevada. >> investigators are trying to find out more about a suspicious device found on board a delta jet. the airplane was found -- was bound for madrid and returned to j.k. last night as a precaution. it was evacuated and the bomb squad called in. there was strange wiring in the bathroom but no explosive device was found. cleaning solvent is blamed for another scare in the air. some crew members aboard southwest airlines jet that took off from north polk became ill yesterday. crewmembers were taken to the hospital for observation. hazmat determined the source of a problem. the passengers then headed to their destination chicago, on another jet. >> wells fargo shells out millions in a settlement with the justice department over racial discrimination. >> and the ceo of jpmorgan chase is back in the car seat this morning. -- back in the hot seat this morning. >> happy friday. jpmorgan chase is up with their second quarter results this morning. and ceo jamie dimond will try to restore confidence. jpmorgan chase

(laughter) how is that possible that texas-- texas-- six shooters, conservatives, george bush, rick perry, how is houston electing a gay mayor? no offense. (laughter) >> no offense to all of you and the rest of the world but it was an international media sensation when i was elected but houston elected me six times before they elected me mayor. >> stephen: maybe it was a fluke! (laughter) >> six times. and they knew every time. i'm good at what i do. and houston is very tolerant of a lot of things. they want to know what you can do, not who you are, where you're from. >> stephen: they knew? you didn't hide this? >> no. >> stephen: so your staff said just get it out there. >> i was a lesbian activist before i became mayor. i was a good candidate for mayor and they elect med six times already. >> stephen: can you get married in texas? >> sure i can get married to you if you weren't already married. (laughter) >> stephen: i'm flattered. (laughter) can two women get married? >> no. >> stephen: do you have a partner. >> i do. >> stephen: what the... what is she called? >> well, i call her kath

>> i'm sorry. >> governor rick perry is not a member of the immediate yachlt he is the governor of texas and he said yesterday, no matter who you are or what office you're running for, you should be as transparent as you can be. do you disagree with governor perry? >> well, norah, i heard the clip you played just before i came on. his words were within reason. i think releasing a few years or two years plus the one coming up is reasonable given the past practice. >> i mean, there is this. that is, the governor who can is simply answer all the critics of those who say he has something to hide. then move on to the economy. the issue he wants to talk about. >> well, charlie, look, the fact is when you have the tax returns that are released, a lot of information comes out understandable, but there's no credible claim that mitt romney's done anything wrong. >> why not let him prove that and show that he, like other candidates, is prepared to show you exactly the kind of tax rate he had been paying and why. and that, in fact, he's proud of the success that he has had as an earner, as a busines

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this comes as rick perry will campaign for mayor romney for the first time. as for the president he has local supporters lined up for hours to pick up tickets to a campaign rally over the weekend. they picked up their tickets at his campaign headquarters in fairfax county. mr. obama is hosting a rally at centreville high school. virginia remains a key battleground state. >> coming up, the made in china controversy. the olympic uniforms were all made overseas. find out who wants them all to be burned. >> a puppy is killed when somebody dropped a cement block on his head. now, a big break in the case. >> local lawmakers want to slap hefty fines on pepco. [ obama ] i'm barack obama and i approve this message. [ female announcer ] every won who believes decisions about our bodies and our health care should be our own is troubled mitt romney supports overturning roe versus wade. romney backed a law that outlalaws all abortion -- even in cases of rape and incest. and that's not all. i'll cut o off funding to planned parenthood. [ female announcer ] for women planne

texas governor rick perry, a former republican rival says that romney should be as open as possible. meantime on the other side we've got republicans criticizing the obama campaign for what they're saying about mitt romney. john mccain calls the campaign disgraceful for targeting those tax returns and targeting romney's time with bain. hi calls it chicago style and sleazy. meantime former new hampshire governor says that he shouldn't have said that president obama learns to be an american. what he really meant is he needs to learn the american formula for business. lynn? >> tracie potts for us in washington. tracie, thanks so much. >>> to utah where a southwest airlines pilot wanted in connection with a colorado murder attempted to steal an empty plain from a small airport. the man then killed himself after he couldn't get the plane off the ground. nbc's kurt gregory has the details. >> reporter: a sky west pilot's plans to steal a plane was thwarted. the 40-year-old had parked his motorcycle, jumped a fence to the airport, gained access to a sky westjet and started its engines. acco

you combine that with rick perry. rick perry couldn't remember three federal agencies. mitt romney can't remember when he left bain capital. you keep having kind of, you would expect at this point that the romney campaign would be in fourth gear and they seem to be stuck in second gear. i think the appearance was awful for him. he cannot get out from always these stories about investments in swiss bank accounts and cayman islands. the point karen was make iing at signing papers when he was or wasn't at bain capital. they can't get into a consistent message about what they want to do for this country and it is really one of the most ineffective campaigns you've seen at this point, particularly that he sewed this up in march. >> i love this going on between you two. thank you so much. >>> coming up on "hardball," more on mitt romney's outsourcing legacy, but fresh predictions on who will take the is that the next year. >>> next, did mitt romney profit off booze? stay with us and check it out. >> and i'm going to work to reform and save -- >> it was a calculated move on hi

texas governor and alleged romney supporter rick perry had this to say. >> no matter who you are or what office you're running for, you should be as transparent as you can be. with your tax returns and other aspects of your life. >> and the editors of the conservative national review wrote, romney as a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. this guy has really boxed himself in. he told the country two years of tax returns, that's all you're going to get. there's an arrogance to that, don't you think? just like romney told andrea mitchell last year he wasn't considering releasing any returns. >> and with regards to my tax returns, why, time will tell. that's not something i'm planning today, but never say never. >> but if you were president, it's not that hard to make a commitment, if you're elected president of the united states, you would release the tax returns. every president does. >> if i become president, then i'll consider that. it's a little premature for me to be talking about that at this stage. >> is there some