military strike on iran's nuclear facilities whether alone or in concert with israel could set back iran. 's nuclear program for four years but it still would not guarantee that iran would not eventual acquire a nuclear bomb why is that it's because the technology of iran already has some pieces and parts they need to acquire from overseas but unless you can guarantee that you can kill off everyone in iran that has knowledge of these programs and their ability to produce these basic components such as aluminum rotors you can't guarantee that that the program can never be restarted so you can destroy what they have now but their ability to rebuild that even if you can make it take a very long time to rebuild that's what can't be destroyed what kind of long term military commitment with the u.s. have to make to ensure that iran would never be able to build a nuclear bomb i mean it would be similar to what happened with iraq the only way to ensure a country does not acquire a nuclear weapon is to is to forcibly change the regime and go in on the ground occupy yes that's the that's the only

iran will defend itself. our hands are not tied. iran can defend itself. the second issue is, by principles, we do not mix the zyonists in our political considerations, in our political equation. and the third is that after all, the zionist regime is threatening iran. why is there silence in the world in this regard? the same international community that the lady mentioned, why are they-- why are they sitting silent in respect to threats against an autonomous country that is a member of that community. why should they not condemn it? please allow me to tell you the fourth point. why should the zionist regime establish a red line for the united states government's policy with iran. who are these people. please, someone tell me who these people are. >> rose: it's not the issue they are establishing for the united states government, it's the issue they may have for themselves. and why do you continue and every conversation to refer to them as a zionist regime rather than the state of israel? >> well, not you personally but does the united states government, w

role in dealing with iran for several years now what would the significance be of an agreement by iran and the white house to meet and hold talks. well that is significance i mean this is this is long overdue they should have been talking in yuma latterly a long time about how. it's really the mistrust between the u.s. and the iranian government itself that is the problem so i would i would count this is good news actually if this were happening unfortunately it's all actually mirrors though everybody wants to make sure that they look tough instead of looking towards more of a peaceful solution to issues that are going on today. it's a very good point especially when you talk about and you sort of look at polls in terms of what the majority of the american people want and that is not war not using military action if it's you know working with them having talks to try to come to some sort of an agreement you know we have seen over the last few months patricia an increase in sanctions against iran against countries that do business with iran the white house has said these sanctions were

and negotiating with iran to the current situations we find ourselves in with iran? >> i would like to say that we have learned something, but i'm not sure -- i'm not sure what we've learned. if you look at our relations today, they are not very good, and we are right now in a very -- when the iranians are in a very dangerous place there is a lot of talk of the war and a lo? of talk about air strikes and?? ?d iranians nuclear program.?? being the eternal optimist that? ibm, i didn't think that we??? would be in ?such a bad place? even after what had happened in? ?79? and 1980.???????? when we flew out of tehran on?? ??planes if you would have?? asked me, i would have said in? five years, seven years, ten?? years at the most, tempers will? cool.??????? we and the iranians will realize that w?e have the mutual inter? that we have things to talk about with? each other, not?? necess?arily his friends, but ? countries, as states do because we talked to many states with?? which we are not friendly.??? from time to time we talk to?

and iran's inflexibility on the issue has been open to debate in iran but, again, the iran supreme leader ayatollah khamenei is reported to have said that syria is a front line against the united states, and we're not going to back down in syria because if we back down in syria, we'll be next. so we can't expect a lot of flexibility in iran's policy towards syria. we can expect the iranian regime -- especially the revolutionary guards -- to support al assad as much as they can. .. >> he embarrasses iran. he criticize the regime of bashar al-assad and implicitly criticized the iranian regime for its support of syria. this was an embarrassment for the iranian leadership to the point that they changed the translation on television. he criticized syria and iranian television about bahrain. so trying to save face basically. but we've seen that each of this is not necessary going to follow around policies in the region. in fact, the egyptians have capped their distance from tehran. they have not resumed relationship and there's a lot of tension between the two countries on some issues. in addit

iran should not obtain a nuclear weapon iran may not have a nuclear weapon and israel continues to push washington to back action against iran obama and romney on all that far apart on the issue in the pre-vote campaign and more on that certainly and other stories after a short break. nineteen iranian channels have been banned in the countries that's called iran for not tolerating free speech among other things well played lads well played i love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning personally a bit of censorship doesn't bother me that much because there has always been censorship and there were always be censorship if there are any words or symbols or opinions that could get you bumped off the air or legal trouble in your country then guess what you have censorship sorry to say it but that's how it is i don't mind a country saying that there is something so antithetical to their way of life that it must be banned i'm fine with that that's your business in your country and you should be able to protect your culture and your values but the light in me and tell me that you live censorshi

plan designed to pressure iran to come back to the table i mean is. this is a desperate measure by iran because of these crippling sanctions or you know do you think there's a whole lot more to the puzzle here i think at the end of the day these niggas these nuclear negotiations are really more joe political in nature you know the same definitely a horrible toll on the population my own family included is is is feeling these these sanctions i think it can be used as a way again you know to bring both sides to the table but what's interesting is that you know congress in the wall is the one that has a knack of these these sanctions and so it would take legislation to repeal them you know additionally they've implemented these sanctions for a whole variety of reasons not just the nuclear program ostensibly you know the human rights violations that iran has committed or it's you know quote unquote global support for terrorism and so it's hard to see how the u.s. administration obama's administration would repeal these sanctions piecemeal if if iran had s

number two with regards to iran and the threat of iran, there is no question but a nuclear iran, a nuclear capable iran is unacceptable to americans. it presents a threat not only to our friends but ultimately a threat to us to have iran to have nuclear material, nuclear weapons to be used against us or to be used to be threatening to us. it's also essential for us to understand what our mission is in iran. that is to dissuade iran from having a nuclear weapon through peaceful and diplomatic means. and crippling sanctions are something i called for five years ago when i was in israel speaking at the conference. i laid out seven steps. crippling sanctions were number one. and they do work. you are seeing it right now in the economy. absolutely the right thing to do to have crippling sanctions. i would have put them in place earlier but it's good that we have them. number two, something i would add today is, i would tighten those sanctions. i would say that ships that carry iranian oil can't come into our ports. i imagine the eu would agree with us as well. not only ships couldn't, i would s

the issue is iran iran's independent iran is a country that will not bow down to the western powers and the europeans and americans want to run to near like saudi arabia like most. of the other countries in the region. and beyond perhaps but but i think what it merely does is that a turn to ronny and away from europe in the united states for a very long time iranians have much more incentive to build friendly relationships with asian countries with latin american countries with african countries and there is no look there's very little incentive anymore to work with europeans especially the way in which they treat the run it's even young iranians who study abroad more more than ever before are travelling asian countries to study rather than europe and on the other hand i think this disgust many people outside of iran and many countries would take this into account that western countries could use the same tool against them on other occasions to put pressure on them to make them abide by western demands so i think there will be a lot of incentives for independent countries to to do t

everything goes to the banking sector in iraq. >> in iran. >> iran, excuse me. when that is targeted, hospitals are having a hard time getting medical equipment. there are reports cancer patients aren't getting medication. iranians are bringing their children for treatment to the uk. do we want to be responsible for that? it's not addressing the hypocrisy of nuclear enrichment from countries that have nuclear powers that have been shown to use nuclear weapons. we are not talking israel. we are singling out iran. it's an issue that comes up. >> should we do nothing? >> we need to look at iran's nuclear capabilities. iran can't have them but israel can have them. india and pakistan can have them. >> those are already done. are you saying that let's assume iran does not have a nuclear weapon, should we do nothing? >> who puts us in charge. once aran is done, they are off the hook? >> a president that wants to go to global zero. >> start with our own nuclear weapons. >> we still have to -- i mean if iran gets a nuclear weapon, saudi arabia is going to buy one, then

asks what's so wrong about bringing iran to the negotiating table. and r.t. is counting down until the presidential debate number one between president obama and governor romney that's already gotten plenty of other attention something that you won't see on network news the third party debate but don't worry we've got you covered we will have a preview of that coming up. it's monday october twenty second four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for example and you're watching our t.v. . we want to get this hour with a closer look at the aftermath of the u.s. led war in iraq there is new information out that over the last few years there has been a significant rise in miscarriages and also in birth defects and babies in that country according to the environmental contamination and toxicology bulletin in the past seven years the number of babies born with major birth to facts increased by more than sixty percent and forty five percent of pregnancies in cities studied and in miscarriage this is one of several studies that finds direct connections with military a

iran. and dr. parsi is the author of an award-winning book, the secret dealings of iran israel in the united states, published in 2007, and has a new book this year called the single role of the dice, obama's diplomacy with iran. both from deal university press. i should say that all these panelists are also quoted in the major media frequently. so that's another thing. i don't mention of a each one at a time, but all of them. >> thanks much. is a great pleasure being here. i think it's going to be quite an interesting q&a following this. i'm going to cut my talk perhaps a little bit short and just going to some of the most important point and then leave as much as possible for the discussion afterwards. the panel asked what ways have the united states or the gcc been able to close to some of its objectives, and have effective policies, vis-À-vis iran. it's a good question because it reminds us to ask ourselves what are the objectives. and the object is that oftentimes are talked about ten

hay naciones en irÁn. quieren tener una mejor vida y esperamos y deseamos que su liderazgo tome decisiones correctas. pero el negocio que vamos a aceptar que ab r acaben con las aspiraciones nucleares. las decisiones que hemos tomado. el gobernador romney algunas veces me dio la impresiÓn, no sÉ, que usted pensaba que usted harÍa lo mismo que estamos haciendo, pero ahora, resulta y noto claramente que trabajo poner sanciones toma tiempo, requiere trabajo y eran decisiones importantes y es un ejemplo de como queremos restablecer la credibilidad de nuestra naciÓn ante el mundo" querÍamos que todos los paises participaran, paÍses como rusia y china. si fuÉramos nosotros que imponemos samgnciones, si hacem todo, todo el mundo estÁ de acuerdo que irÁn ejerce, desarrollos nucleares y por eso queremos esta negociaciones. no lo vamos a permitir. deben respetar las reglas ya establecidas y convencer a la. que se han sometido a inspecciones que son odiosas, lo sÉ, pero con el tiempo... pero no vamos a perm

opportunity to strike iran dragging the u.s. into a war is there still a threat that it would do so in the main remaining weeks i think the concern about a possible israeli strike was higher a few weeks ago the israelis are now dissolving. parliament and calling for new elections on january twenty second so this i think changes a lot of the previous calculation of people that thought the israeli government might act before the us elections i think now tend to believe the way to.

whose insistence that iran should not obtain a nuclear weapon my red line is iran may not have a nuclear weapon iran is a nuclear nation is unacceptable the united states president obama said exactly the same thing. twenty nine standing ovations to these really prime minister's speech before congress among other things showed just how powerful the israeli lobby is in washington despite president obama's support of a two state solution for israel and the palestinians his party members at their convention this fall called for moving the capital of israel from tel aviv to jerusalem it remains evident that there is no daylight between the two parties of israel obama was the guy who gave the impression with his cairo speech and others that he was willing to begin to renegotiate america's policy. on israel and palestine but in fact when he came down to hard political realities has backed off but will he back off when israel decides to attack iran whoever is elected as america's next president will have to walk on the same raise the weight which is between this world that is itching to bomb ira

and negotiating with iran in the current situation we find ourselves in with iran? >> i would like to say, peter, do we have learned something. i am not sure what we've learned. i mean, if you look at relations today, they are not very good. i know we are still a very dangerous place. there's a lot of talk of war. a lot of talk of airstrike in iranian nuclear program. being the eternal optimist that? i am, i didn't think we been such a bad place even after what happened in 1979 and 80.???? when we flew out of tehran on?? ?e science, if you asked me, i? would've said in five years,?? seven years, 10 years of the?? most, tempers will cool.???? we iranians will realize we hav? mutual interest, things to talk? about with each other.????? not necessarily as friends, tha? as countries, as states do??? because we talked to many states with? which we are not friendl? ????e to tim?e we????? ???????????????? this estrangement, this????? inability to talk to each other? ?s gone on now for 32 years an? ?spite efforts to cha

iran. libyan forces are now using. their assault on the town of bani walid the traditional stronghold of the toppled the regime this according to sources who spoke exclusively to. just days after washington objected to a u.n. call for a peaceful solution. well fighting continues in the besieged libyan city of baghdad where it has been on the go for more than three weeks now we are beginning however to hear disturbing reports that a foreigner troops and snipers could be used in the assault on the city. they told something dangerous that. maybe if it got out of them somewhere inside the city do. you know. now earlier in the week there were conflicting reports that the city had fallen these reports have proven untrue but not before thousands of bani walid residents tried to make their way back to the city now we are hearing from our sources on the ground that these people have been stopped by roadblocks that have been set up by militias at the entrances and exits to the city that there has been firing in the air widescale

iran was resurgent. iran is at its weakest point economically, strategically, militarily than cents -- than in many years. and we are going to continue to keep the pressure on to the sure they do not in a nuclear weapon. that is in america's national interest and that will be the case along i am present. >> we are four years closer to a nuclear iran. we are four years closer to a nuclear iran. and we should not have wasted these four years to the extent they continue to be about to spin these subterfuges and get that close. 's number one. number two, mr. previn, the reason i call it an apology or is you went to the middle east -- he flew to egypt and saudi arabia and turkey and iraq. and, by the way, use of israel -- are closest to rent -- friend in the region -- but you went to the other nations. and by the way, they noticed that it is real. and in those nations and on every tv set america has been dismissive and derisive. he said that on occasion america had dictated to other nations. mr. kravis -- mr.

right about iran. not incidentally in the arab world, where the public regards the united states as the second most dangerous country right after israel. in the arab world, it ranks far lower as a threat among the populations that is not the dictatorships. with regard to iranian nuclear weapons, nobody wants to have them -- nobody wants them to have them, but in many polls, sometimes considerable majorities have said the region would be more secure if iran had nuclear weapons to balance those of the major threats. there is a lot of commentary in the western media, journals about our attitudes towards iran. what you read, is the arabs want decisive action against iran. which is true of the dictators. it is not true populations. but who cares about the populations? what are called the spiritually the arab street? that is a reflection of extremely deep contempt for democracy among western elites. i mean, so deep that it cannot be perceived. it is just reflecting it. the study of popular attitudes in the a

y el presidente de irÁn. y pensaron que es insÓlito y diferente, es un honor recibir esto del presidente de estados unidos. y comenzÓ con una gira pidiendo excusas, pidiendo a las las naciones del oriente medios crÉdito capar rito cuando a est unidos. respaldo a los estados unidos, el presidente se quedÓ callado y se fijaron en eso tambiÉn. y cuando el presidente dijo que iba a crear una diferencia entre israel y nosotros, se fijaron tambiÉn en eso. y todo esto sugiriÓ yo creo, a los iranÍes. podes seguir im pujandolos. y hablando en conversaciones y vamos a seguir girando lacenri fuga, que sigue girando el uranio, creando la amenaza en estados unidos. y todo el mundo. para nosotros es algo inaceptable. que el preside muestre fortaleza un prinpio. ra cerciorarse de lo aceptable y no aceptable. y ellos no pueden desarrollar una capacidad nuclear. a manera de ceasesorarnos. teniendo lasancies mÁs duras pÚblicos, para que sean paso duras despuÉs, aislamiento diplomÁtico. terminar. tenemos que poner p

whether it's now iran. you've been all over the map. >> mitt romney did use substantially new language on the issues of afghanistan and iran. does the president have a point here and is that a risk for mitt romney? >> well, it's a risk only if people really pay attention to it. that's the problem. i think for the president. this is not a foreign policy election. there's no indication that governor -- the big question mark was, is governor romney going to be a war monger? and he answered that question effectively last night by pushing his peace agenda, which, you know, was his message of the evening, too. it was clear the president wanted to show that governor romney would be erratic, that he's been all over the map. he pushed that message throughout the night. but the frustrating thing, i think, for the president is, last night governor romney was consistent. whether or not that's a new position and whether or not the president can exploit that in the last two weeks in an economic election is a tough task.

>> in iran, there is only one regime, so perhaps they are protest against that and in iran, the judicial branch is not under the power of the government, they have their own laws and's what they follow. and we have no interference in that. the government has paved wait four the highest form of freedom of most people. you see people criticize, people sometimes trespass the border lines of proper as a president, i'm not middle of the people of iran, without drawing any borders, without drawing any reed red lines, we converse. >> right, but this isn't just any protester, this could be your daughter in the future. she is daughter of your predecessors, the president. it's a fairly significant moment that she has been imprisoned. do you feel uncomfortable that this lady is in jail? >> let's separate the two argument, the two topics. happy this anyone is going to prize in? no. never. no one should go to prison, but also keep in mind that in any country, every one must be treated equally under the laws. no one must have -- or must receive special treatment because of having been a part of the po

what has that -- but that has resulted in, on the example of iran, they can say that he did and iran rejected it. in his first three years, the entire amount of diplomatic face-to-face time by obama and a series with iran was less than one hour. diplomacy does not happen that fast. it does not work that way. he said in a situation where congress was able to get away with passing resolutions and a sense of congress motions etc. that made it almost illegal for the obama administration to actually engaged in diplomacy with iran. instead of standing up and saying the american people did not vote for a candidate who wanted to and diplomacy, they voted for a candidate that wanted to put diplomacy first and i want to do that and not allow congressional hijacking to go on. that is what we did not see. by taking that argument to the american people, that president obama could have fought back in a different way against those pressures from congress, from the republican party, etc. tavis: with regard to romney, it this comes up in the debate -- if this comes up in the debate, mr. obama might b

has a nuclear weapons program no evidence whatsoever has ever been presented by iran they buy by bush by obama that iran has a nuclear weapons program but yes we have this continual drumbeat that somehow iran has a nuclear weapons program iranian poses some kind of a threat and that the united states has to do something about it and therefore any kind of suffering that is imposed on the radio people is perfectly justifiable all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in way to go to a short break and we'll talk about what wasn't mentioned when we return after a short break we continue our discussion the u.s. presidential campaign today with hardly. any. room for the last terrorist. ex hostages blood listen to their lives after the tragedy. still gets try to cross out the past. because their future will yet be written. soon which brightened. about song from funds to christians. who scream stunts on t.v. don't come. wealthy british style. markets why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike's cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial head

i have not been in a prison since i was released in iran. not just any prison, but to be walking in the pelican bay. my name is shane bauer. in 2009, i was captured on the iran-iraq border with josh fatal and sarah shourd. we never knew when or if we would get out. i spent four months in solitary confinement did i did not expect to find the same or worse back at home in california. >> solitary confinement was the worst experience in all of our lives. > >> just getting my cameras redding. i have this feeling of heaviness. i am nervous. to pelican to go in bay state prison. i know i'm going to see people who up in living in solitary for a very long time. >> always be on your toes through the >> my guides are the ticket chris acosta and the institutional bank investigator, david. pelican bay, one of the first supermax prisons in the country is infamous for its six shootinsecurity housing unit. some have never even broken housing rules. they're held indefinitely because the department of corrections says their connection, however continuously, t

now israel has been threatening to bomb iran's nuclear facilities how do you see iran responding to such threats. i don't think israel is able to wage a military strike against iran be active collaboration and cooperation with the united states but if there is this crazy act of a military strike against iran either by israel or by the united states or both of them i think there would be strafed very very severe response by a wall and this will shoot the price of oil very high it would bring down the economy into a deep depression this is actually what the leader of the i.m.f. has said the tensions in the persian gulf bring about a deep depression like to the thirty's in europe and therefore he wants every television against any kind of military strike is going to be swift very very severe and they have repeatedly said that is would not survive this hour on live from london from the campaign against sanctions and military intervention and iran professor abbas of a lot thank you for your time on r.t. thank you. and your study has revealed a staggering rise in birth defects among among iraq