is it considered sufficient to do it on a city wide basis and not on a city view. there is no analysis where cost savings would come department to department or the city as a whole in the data presented. when a project boasts of cost savings with data consolidation there is no way of determining who or where the estimated $3 million was saved or what became of it. shame on you that says that the current structure ensures coordination and efficiency. what it does ensure is the status quo. it ensures the behavior of department technology. it ensures the lack of cooperation. what the office of the mayor response does is prove our recommendations are worthy of serious considerations by the board of supervisors. we are here today to share our views with the board of supervisors, the only body within city government that we're aware of that has been willing to step up in recent times as you did in 2010 by mushing through changes in the city's administrative code that attempt to introduce positive improvements to the way technology is practiced around here. today we ask y

things like city attorney and city treasurer will get lost in the shuffle. the big problem is city government, making sure the people actually pay attention. we have had a problem for a long time with san francisco and dysfunctional san francisco. that's depending on other city issues that are up, the coalition to san francisco neighborhoods is going against them. we have a city government that's very out of touch in many ways and we're, frankly, annual elections would be very wise to keep the people paying attention it what's happened. we have very strong developer interest, strong lobbyist influence, and very little public interest. things get sidelined and they wonder why things suddenly get opposed like the park bond which is being heavily opposeopposed. >> thank you. supervisor, do you believe having the elections all at one time is better for the electorate or does it get lost when you have so many positions up for election? >> since he did raise the issue of the parks bond, we're not here for that. the parks bond has very overwhelming support. going b

i'm the ceo at city car share. i want to thank you, by the way, supervisor cohen, for pulling together this hearing today. i think it's been very enlightening. i did want to make a couple comments about car sharing and about some of what i would call misnomers out there. first of all, model does matter, it really does. there's multiple models out there. they meet different needs and they do different things. it doesn't mean that they are competing against each other necessarily. so, in order to meet the needs of our citizens, of visitors to the city, there is a place for a lot of different options out there. one of the things that a city needs to decide -- and this is based on a philosophy of what car sharing is meant to do -- the city needs to decide what its goals are, what its objectives are. environmental goals, congestion goals, land use goals, equity goals are all important. and, therefore, before the city make policy, before it determines whether to give away the public right-of-way to any of us, it needs to

city residents. it is a critical institution and we are preparing our residents to compete, not just to get the degrees, not just to get the job, but as a city, we need a city college that will help us compete with all the other international cities of the world, and it happens right here. so with that, i want to ask rodriguez to step forward and take the oath. please raise your right hand and repeat after me. i, rodrigo santos, do solemnly affirm that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california, that i take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and then i will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which i am about to enter during such time as i hold the office of a member of the city college board of trustees for

the women come from all over the city. we enjoy the program and we are getting people out to have fun in this beautiful city. >> rec and parks

we now have over 40 cities that have joined us. in 2011 we partnered with gray area foundation on a series of hack-a-thons, 10,000 attendees, and created nearly 30 applications all being powered by open data. now in 2012 we have our legislation that you heard about. as you heard, we announced the chief data officer. we have a network of open data coordinators within each agency. and these coordinators, their primary responsibility is to provide insight, is to provide transparency into the data sets that they manage. and that's really important. we want to make sure that you guys have a clear understanding in our community about the data that we manage so you can tell us where we should be going next in terms of opening up our data sets. we also are doing some structural changes so that open data is really the default position for our city. we're making sure that data belongs to our city, not the vendor. and second, we're making sure that any software that we buy or build hatx a public api or some equivalent. we don't want to be hel

he is very familiar with the incredible work that spur does with the city, because of his work as a city administrativor,a lot of us from his vantage point of the mayor's office. i would like to recognize the department heads and elected officials. i know i've seen some of you here. thank you for coming out to support the fund workover our city employees. it is a privilege to me in particular to be here because i have had the opportunity for the last several years to be on the selection committee for the good government awards. it is really a treat. as a human-resources director, i get a lot of bad news. some of that gets in the newspaper. with all due respect to our brethren in the press, it's always a good story to write about bad behavior that may happen in a city department or that a public employee may have engaged in. we are the largest employer in san francisco. it is only natural as some of that bad behavior may fall on our doorsteps. it is refreshing to see some of the wonderful work people are doing, who really personify the ethos of san francisco. i want to celebrate that. on

hurwitz: currently, city tunnel 1 and city tunnel number 2 would be feeding each half of the city. so you'd lose half the city if you didn't have a replacement. narrator: without half of its water supply, the city would shut down. for nearly 40 years, new york has been in the process of constructing a solution. man: this project is water tunnel number 3. we started on this project in 1969. i'm a sandhog. i've been a sandhog for 37 years. narrator: sandhogs are the men of local 147, who work deep below the city. they began building the infrastructure of new york in 1872. from the subways to the sewers, the water tunnels to the highway tunnels, new york city thrives because of their work. ryan: you got one little hole in the ground, and nobody knows we're here. see the empire state building, right. that's 1,000 feet. so you figure, you go down 1,000. how high that is -- that's how far we go down. narrator: stretching more than 60 miles under the city, tunnel 3 is taking generations of workers to complete. ryan: i don't even want to imagine what my father had to go through. when we fi

i support solar rooftops all over the.íctv city. i support finding work for everyone, no matter their skills andn6sÑy abilities, to make our streets clean and safe. we can all livebdç on this peninsula together. that is challenge that iúeeañ accept. please vote for me, f. joseph butler for supervisor in distz÷] 3. thank you. Äb hi. i'm david chiu. i'm runnir$pqk for reelection to represent district 3 on the san francisco board of supervisors, and would be hon/b(a0ñ with your vote. 20 years ago, i first visited northeast neighborhoods of san francisco, as millions of san franciscans have÷p over the decades. for years, i served our city as a criminal prosecutor, a civil rights attorney, founder of a small business, and volunteered as chair of both the neighborhood association and an affordable housing organization. when i was elected four years ago, i promised to bring people together to deliver results, to increase cooperation and accountability at city hall. over the past four years, i'm proud of what we have=hvj÷ accompli

our city is a social, economic and political cross roads. in so many ways, the every-day people that keep this city special, the artists, the students, the young families, the seniors on fixed income, working people and every day people of all strides are having a harder and harder time surviving much less thriving in our city. one of the reasons is that our economic development policies are currently much too focused on the big business interest. we need to reorient our city's development policies to focus on the 80 percent of the economy which is our small businesses or mom and pop shops. san francisco needs to develop more affordable housing. the association of bay government says that they need 18,000 new units of housing and we are nowhere close to that. prop c, something that i encourage you to vote for, but let's go back to the ballot in the years to come and pass an affordable housing bond something that san francisco has not done in close to two decades. we need to improve our public schools in san francisco if we are going to be a

and the issue is how the city manages bed bugs. while campaigning was a key issue that came up throughout the district, even though it is an issue that affects the entire city. one of the first things i did as supervisor was to call a hearing on how the city works on the abatement of bed bugs and on march 28th we heard from over 100 residents, advocates and affordable housing developers about the impact that this has on people's lives. so, today i'm asking you to support this legislation which would address three main issues. one, the legislation requires the city provide clear and accessible information on how to properly abate bed bug infestation and the rules and responsibilities for tenants, landlords, and pest control operators. two, in doing our due diligence we looked at what other jurisdictions have done to address this issue and decided to include them in our legislation and have decided to include in our ledthtion asian a provision in new york city administrative code. this will require a property owner or property manage

i think, also, with our city passing really the highest budget that we have seen in our city's history i think it's more important than ever that we really step our support for your families and our kids. that being said i think that there are a lot of conversations in kind of moving targets as we're finding different moneys coming in from the last fiscal year so i wanted to allow greater time for a conversation to happen about both sources of funding and also specifically how this investment that the city is making, in our class of 2014-15 are going to be met over the next two weeks. so i would like to make a motion to continue this item as well to december 4. and i do want to thank my cosponsors, supervisors campos,ñ mar, avalos and olague. >> president chiu: seconded by supervisor mar. further discussion, supervisor campos. >> supervisor campos: thank you very much. i want to begin by thanking supervisor kim for bringing this item forward. and let me begin by saying that i have been supportive of this effort to provide additional resources to the san francisco unified school distri

i do think things are changing at city hall and with city government generally. in the last budget process, we read able to get a full-time person in the office of economic and workforce development who will focus exclusively on nightlife and entertainment. that is a huge step with the positives of the industry. i would have worked very closely with supervisor chiu to get a budget for the entertainment commission. at times, the entertainment commission has been set up to fail because we expect all sorts of enforcement and make sure that people are cracking down on the rules, but we have not committed the resources necessary to do so. we are slowly doing that to make sure that they can meet their mission. and the of all special use district that i mentioned before, i think we lost -- we will finally start seeing some reform there. we have a lot more work to do. i recently asked the economist to supplement the impact study for the night live with a similar study for outdoor fairs and festivals, which we know contribute mightily to our economy. i'm very committed to

let me start with you, jessica. >> for us, we have chosen to launch city by city. we feel that is really important because it lets us take the time needed to build up a great community of people sharing cars. that lets us find great cars, educate the owners, educate the renters, and ensure there is the right balance and variety of cars. if you look on the site in san francisco, you will literally see cars all over the place. it is all over the bay area. you are seeing cars sharing happening in places it never had before. we worked with the city to see if there were any ways we could get out the word. we hope to work with existing programs or be added as an additional transportation solution. in general, we like to involve the city and city leaders in our announcement of coming to market, and it has been working really well. >> i know you have community managers all over the globe. what's going on there? >> airbnb goes to network effects. we are all over in -- we are already in 19 cities all over the world. we just provide the tools on line, and local residents thro

the city needs family housing. families are leaving san francisco and we are short on affordable family housing and this will take away opportunities for that to happen. so, can we -- the committee met last monday and we know that this has been approved already but the cap and we would favor a cap of 300 units and a compromise. i'll agree to that. and we would also like the trigger point to be 200 rather than 750. it's fineso how hs going to work out. but i think the numbers are too high and we feel that the experiment, should be more limited in nature. the -- one of the main issues i see, is that. [inaudible] are going to be something that high-tech corporations will see that as a fantastic investment opportunity and they may buy half a dozen for themselves and represent them out themselves and for them, that size of an investment is nothing, so, i think we need to preserve the opportunity for the type of housing that san franciscoians need. and also, the type of individuals -- i mean that purchase and live in the

us some analytics on how people move around cities and how vehicles drive around cities. so, currently we have 16 neighborhoods -- 18 neighborhoods covered in san francisco, and we get real-time data back that shows exactly how many people go by some of the busiest areas in san francisco. so, you can see here san francisco, on average total, i think we had 150 people cross our sensors on average for every sensor. in case you want to go into time density. so, we end up getting these really, really great visualizations of the busiest times and the least busiest times of people moving around san francisco. you want to go down into union square? you can see the data changes dramatically when we change the neighborhood. and just illustrates how different every neighborhood in san francisco really is. we're announcing today that we're providing some of this data to the city as a kind of public service to help the citizens here figure out how many people walk around their neighborhood. but mostly it's to help public service, like the fire department, the police department, the m

>> the whole village, come on up. >> so we have a couple of city folks. where is greg scott? gret get up here. greg, get up here. i want to point out jill, karen. jill is the deputy chief librarian and karen, these two women are the fairy godmothers of this project. we would not be here without all the people that you heard from, but we would not be here without them. give thermometer a big round of applause. [ applause ] >> we have also got on city staff our aquatic director greg scott. [ applause ] >> and let's see, who else did we get up here? huh? mindy. mindy is on my list. i am the last speaker. they are going to try to limit me to the public hearing three minutes and i'm going to try to stick to that, probably not. [ [ laughter ] after i'm finished we're going to turn some dirt. we have a food truck because we deposit want anybody hungry. you guys patronize them if you will. mel sharp and his band are going to be back playing after the speeches. so hang around and party down. i just have a few people that i need to thank. [ laughter ] i will do the short list. of cours

louis city. in west virginia, they elected him governor, democratic senators, including reelecting mentioned who got 61% and yet the president topped out at 36% to 25% difference between joe manchin and the president spoke in west virginia. so just where to get your comments on ticket splitting in general and then maybe west virginia. >> i think you've got three different things in two different situations. unicom in missouri, let's face it, todd akin contaminated the environment and made it very, very hard for, you know, i think it didn't really help of the republicans in the state, and nationally for that matter. but the thing is in places like montana and west virginia, when, you know, you have democrats who could have told you on january 1 -- i'm sore, well, could have told you four years ago that president obama's going to be a liability in my state, and i'm going, i'm not going to have to put, there never will be any lack of distance between me and him at any point, and so there's no, you k

the city is proposing and we have been working with the city administrator's office, the mayor's office and the budget office and of course the travel as well as the convention bureau. and it is that the city will continue its annual contribution of $8.2 million starting in 2009. prior to 2009, the general fund particularly appropriated as high as ten million a year. and in agreement to the tid one that was put in place the city agreed to come in to pay the 8.2 million but instead to pay the improvements to moscone. what we are proposing is as soon as it is paid down by 2018. in 2019 would stack the 8.2 for the expansion, and so what you would see here is a cpi adjustment every year for the first ten years. for 2028, and then stay flat through the term of the debt of the cop. >> in addition to that, as we will negotiate as you know the interest rate environment is pretty low when it is low, and we know when we go to the markets today we will not have any cash flow issues, the interest will range from three to four percent. but because we don't have... we don't intend to issue until 2017

other wise this town would have been washed away. >> many in atlantic city and ocean city may have thought they might be washed away. downed power lines and left casino parking lots looking like lakes. >> never in my life have i seen such devastation, my reaction is there's no way to fight with mother nature. >> reporter: the storm hit new england just as hard. severe weather caused major airports in boston and connecticut to experience long delays. some airlines even cancelled flights. schools shut down, the coast guard warned boaters to stay in port. one fishing vessel sank its crew had to be rescued. >> farther inland the snow meat commuting miserable to impossible in many areas. residents will be digging out for days to come. so far this storm has been responsible for five deaths and residents in the east are bracing for more. the official start of winter is still 10 days away. >> in 1960 the northeast saw one of its worse storm ever, hurricane donna. donna held the record for sustained winds above 115-miles- an-hour for nine days. hurricane donna killed at least 364 people and caused

this time from inside city hall. san francisco is a city of neighborhoods which is why it's important that your supervisor pay attention to what our neighborhoods need. i want to focus on kids and families. too many are moving away from san francisco. we need them. that's why i want to make sure our parks are centered on recreation for kids, families and pets. we need more affordable middle class housing for families and most important, we need neighborhood schools so you can walk your kids to. and everyone on the block goes to the same school, neighbors know each other. they can bond. it's the best way to build a strong community. i went to public schools and state college which equipped me for many opportunities in life. i was fortunate to receive a full scholarship to harvard where i recently completed a master's degree in public administration. i'll work hard to apply the public policy lessons i learned to bring common sense to city hall. when the san francisco chronicle endorsed me they called my website smart.

we need to think on the city and what we can do to be the type of partner that the city and county ought to be with vis-a-vis the san francisco unified school district. so i'm very interested in this conversation as well. i want to make a moment and thank all of you for being part of this conversation, particularly the young folks who are here. because your voices, a-g for a lot of folks, people can intellectualize it, but it is helpful to hear how it impacts the lives of students and your future. so thank you for being here. x thank you very much. and again, i think it's important for us to continue this conversation. i don't know that we have to do it within the context of this item and i think there are different ways of structuring the discussion. so i would ask that we file this item, if we could have a motion by commissioner fewer. seconded by commissioner mendoza. if we can do that without objection. i will certainly bring this issue back and i think it makes sense for us to do so after -- sometime after the november election when we have a better sense of where things are. but i

it's appointed by the departments that are at city hall. so they appoint their friends, which makes it inherently somewhat difficult for them to perform the job they are supposed to firm. this was created in 1993 and it was said to have created an extra layer of bureaucracy and i think that is playing out. >> thank you. experts say there is a 62% chance that an earthquake causing widespread damage will strike san francisco, or the greater bay area within the next 30 years. what new polices should the city institute in order to minimize the human and economic costs of the next big one? this is a question for miss breed, mr. davis and miss johnson. >> i think that we all -- we are already doing some of those things. for example, many of the new buildings, we're making them as sturdy as we possibly can. we're doing a lot of retrofit projects. part of the work that we do -- i raised over $2.5 million to renovate the african-american art and cultural complex. a lot of that money was used to do retrofit and i think a big part of what we have do a

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we worked with offices and city administrator offices city car share to select the spaces, city car share can speak to the specific events that they marketed the various [speaker not understood] for that. >> i'm sorry, you work with mta? >> yes. >> and you said you worked with which company? >> city car share and the city administrator's office. -- to select the spaces. >> okay. >> and your office as well. >> right. thank you for that. so, it was all done in english, is what you're telling me? >> i'm sorry? >> it was all done in english? >> no, i can't speak to that one way or the other. >> that's my question. if someone can speak to that. >> [speaker not understood] for city car share. >> [speaker not understood]. >> sure. we actually did over 12 different outreaches in the various neighborhoods, particularly in the neighborhoods that had no existing car sharing before. to answer your specific question, we did do an outreach piece in spanish. we did not do one in chinese. we planned to, we wanted to, but did not get one out. we worked with the mayor's mayor's office to get one out. parti

we lit up the city. it was a washid orange from coit tower to the ferry building to right here at city hall. what can we take away from our 2012 giants? i believe we can take away life lessons. vuch teachable moments for our children and our team did face challenges and whether facing injuries or newly acquired players or facing elimination game one after another. what were the life lessons? never give up no matter how high the mountain is to climb. have integrity and conduct yourself with professionalism. did this team do that? absolutely. play with a team with unselfish devotion. trust one another and love your team teammates and in always do so have fun and it's meant to be played as a game, so for the rest of our lives i know this truly resonates for many of us. for the rest of our lives we will remember this team as a brilliant team, a team of character, a team of chemistry, and a team that ultimately clicked and we developed a short hand around our heroes and our giants experience that will always

and the southeastern part of the city. two city campus sites, the southeast campus and we have the campus [speaker not understood] both dedicated parking spot. i'm sure we can have a discussion around that. also want to bring your attention puc is a $3 billion wastewater project happening in the southeastern part of the city. pu crushtion is going to be moving a considerable part of the staff in the 3rd street evans corridor area. * the housing authority, i've spoken to henry alvarez, he's on board and committed to providing spaces, one of which is up on [speaker not understood] in the process of the rebuild process [speaker not understood]. which also includes all of the public housing sites [speaker not understood] most closest to being complete. so, what ayectionv really here today to talk about car sharing, the to challenge thought leaders in how they're going to be [speaker not understood]. i'm not beating you up. i'm not trying to embarrass anyone, but this is a serious conversation because it's having an impact on e

administrator and now wonderful mayor for our city; who has been terrifically supportive of our city, mayor ed lee. [ applause ] >> how is everybody doing? [ applause ] [ applause ] well let me begin by saying luis, congratulations but you know, when you are as successful as you are have been with the library commission it's like winning the first world series. we're not just satisfied with one project, even though there are 24 of these that have been completed with this one, and the proper use of our library bonds program from beginning from the year 2000 with the great partnership of dpw and so forth. there are more great partnerships to be guilt because guess what we're doing with the bonds that publicly improves, we're honoring these kids' future. this is a place where there is going to be invent, sharing, yes, exploring, meeting, oh, gosh, what else did we miss? >> meeting. >> instructor: yes, meeting and sharing and exploring and inventing and reading. of course. we're just going to have so much of this and i'm so happy to be working with the supervisors who also know this. bec

your own energy use in the city, like your home energy use? all that data about when you use it, what are your hot times, your cool times. how about if we try to find some way to inspire people to give us that]h data, in some coordinated way. because if we understand that 20 to 22% of our emissions comes from1ar residenl use, you can imagine if we had that data coming from every household use in the city we could break that data down with involvement of creative people see where there's patterns where we could lessen our carbon footprint and talk about better energy use. that's perfect for us. that's what we're going to ask this challenge to present for our next improve sf challenge for the city. and that's what we'd like to engage people in. and then hopefully, some time after this challenge is announced, and if we can get the best ideas out there, we will be engaged with you to select the best answer. and if there's an idea out there that can answer that question about how to inspire people, then hopefully wq can go into november a hack-atho

contributions. >> that would be a city-run project correct? >> yes, it would be a city-run project. the other folks will be managing? >> thank you, why don't we open this up for public comment, if there are no questions at this time. i will call the names on the card. 2012. >> okay thank you item 13 please. >>> item 13, department of human resources to execute a agreement for workers compensation work parties for a

. >> thank you, thank you joaquin, thank you, welcome to our orange city hall. i want to welcome everybody here this fourthth animal america arab month of separation and it's my pleasure to join us here and many of us know that we are such a lucky city, and we are lucky because people around their world make their way to fraction, find hopey until the city they know that we celebrate our diversity and find strength in the different cultures that pretend together and now, i ask you also to bring me talent from the arab america communities to make me and help me lune run the city. yes, it's incredible. union, i think i can talk about how wonderful diversity is, but we have to get the talent from our communities to represent all of the different thing that we do in the city. and you know, tonight, even though there is something called a baseball game out there, but these wonderful events that we have in the city whether it's america's cup whether it's fleet week, whether it's the 49ers playing or the giants playing, even eventually when we land the superbowl it all

the first city in the world to have that kind of data available. >> other cities can take elements of sfpark and implement it in the cities. los angeles is working on it. berkeley is working on a project. washington, d.c. is, too. cities are looking at parking management differently than the have in the past. >> later this year, we are gathering all the data we need to evaluate rigorously all our expectations of how this can reduce greenhouse gas emissions, congestion, improve transit speed, reliability, reduc. [applause] >> good evening. i'm the director of transportation. for me, this is not the academy awards. this is the all-star game. the folks sitting over here are truly the all stars of the city. i've had an opportunity to work with ed, harlan, and jocelyn. behalf of all of us. we are also very lucky to have a bunch of people from sfmta, many of them are here. my job is to introduce the awardees. please join me and give a hand for jay primus, george reynolds, steven lee, and lorraine fuqua. >> thank you. this is a tremendous honor. it really does feel fabulous to be recognized.

the city administrator was charged by then city administrator ed lee to look at these types of risks to the city in the event of a major seismic event and how we protect against them and weighed in favor of the project. at&t is looking at a number of proposed route s. one proposed route if approved by the california public utilities commission would involve submerged port property. this is a map showing the potential routes between portero substation and embarcadero substation. you see the submerged route in blue and enter the bay north of pier 30 and south of pier 28. go along a route that is very lose to the current trans bay cable route but several hundred feet away and then enter -- or leave the bay at 23rd street, connecting to a new substation right near the po tero substation. there are two other routes at&t is looking at you through the process. they're shown in red and green here. the big difference between the routes is submerged route would require construction activities along about seven city blocks whereas the other two routes would involve major construction activities

maffei works for the city of san francisco as an?0 attorney. he also would be -- and he's been to several meetingsa he's shown a great interest on the commission. and he also would be a very special asset to theoi#iz because of his connection with various entities in the city?p7 including the sheriff's department and the potential we have for advocating:empñr veterans court and so on. finally,5j!!d÷ dr. matto, who is a psychiatrist and has special insight into the problems of post-traumatic stress disorder and so on. hes0ñh be an excellent -- so i ask you to hold your decision, finally in abeyance until you have had an opportunity to speak to those other two gentlemen. otherwise i advocate for mr. gallagher. thank you. >> chair kim: actually both our office and the clerk did try to contact mr. matto and he didn't respond to either calls. i don't know if you have his contact but see if he's on his way. same for mr. maffei. >> i spoke with him recently. he was fully intending to be here. whether it'svññ?ñ? his job as city attorney -- >> cha

i paid the police department and the city back. we put this together with a group of volunteerses, the original command center. the wonderful volunteers that exist in san francisco. not people advising you but people coming here doing stuff and they represented the great cross section of san francisco. had two retired school teachers who came to this temporary building everyday for five years, and provided administrative assistance. they were wonderful. one of them was mary louise green. dave ebberly -- you haven't heard that name. he was the guy bouncing around and i found out he was the volunteer driver of the emergency vehicle that we had which was parked in a fire house at the other end of the city and get a call at 2:00 o'clock in the morning and get in that vehicle, and i later learned -- i'm sorry dave. i didn't understand at the time. it was manual transmission and manual brakes and i wish i could have hired him and he he is and somebody was smart enough to bring him with when they had sufficient funds. i was assisted by th