of paul ryan. in the campaign. if he goes onto be vice president or if they lose, he has a big future in the republican party. he's the first gen xer on the ticket. he's going to be a player in republican politics for the next generation. >> how can the campaign both be super happy with him and there be no rift and the campaign be telling politico actually we wanted chris christie? >> i don't know how those storistor stories come to be. i'm sure somebody is talking to somebody at politico saying we wish it was chris christie. but i have no idea. i doubt very much that's mitt romney's thoughts. mitt romney cowell have picked chris christie. there was no disqualifying reason why he didn't pick chris christie. he went with the first choice. his first choice was clearly paul ryan. i take their word for it what they said at the time. >> why are the leaks happening at all? to me the truth of the leak, whether or not paul ryan really is going to become a university professor and set himself up for the presidency if they l

paul ryan's extreme budget is no solution and i really think that in terms of his future, i'm not so sure he's going to play as big a role as some might think because i think the republican party is going to have a big ideological conversation, it's been ongoing, more serious after the election as to what is this part going to be, hijacked by extremists or actually come together and work to solve the economic problems of the country. >> in "the new york times" today, an article asked by a reporter last month if he expected the broad responsibility for the economy that mr. cheney held for national security as an aide suggested, mr. ryan said i do. a large reason he was chosen was to help romney govern an yads visor to the campaign said, paul will focus on being a partner. >> i think if romney does win, if all the polls are wrong and he wins. >> there's a couple. >> small. you know, i think then he would absolutely be a very strong outreach to capitol hill and be able to work with the republican caucus and congress. i think the senate will have a very strong role in blocking whatever t

there with paul ryan. they will be coming back soon. we might have to leave you before the hour's over because we have no choice. if we don't get on the plane, we don't have a ride. but that's right. earlier this morning, let's show you the video. mitt romney and his wife ann did vote near their home in belmont, massachusetts. he was asked how he was feeling about the state of ohio and he did predict he would win the state. so it seems like as we're watching that video it seems to be coming back to ohio. the polls may not work out that way later tonight. it might be another state, virginia, colorado that determines this thing. if it's virginia going the president's way, early on this evening, it's a very good night for the president. not a good night for mitt romney. if it ends up being something in the hands of the voters in colorado we could be in for a long night. that might mean things are going to drag out for the next 12 to 24 hours. we'll have to wait and see. but just to let you know right now, my producer, matt hoy, behind the

while was he at it, paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it, but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also reelected the house republicans. see, i think these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. this is a very close election. >> there is now nothing other than time in the gym that separates paul ryan and rush limbaugh. >> we're just laying down! and we didn't lose this election by that much, especially when you look at the turnout. this was not a shellacking landslide. >> this is what rush limbaugh used to think it meant when a presidential candidate won 332 electoral college votes and he thought this right up until the day be

[applause] next to ann romney, paul ryan is the best choice i've made. we enter the final week of the campaign. and obama is saying four more years. we have a different cry of course. what is it? crowd chanting four more days. >> look what i've started. we are so very grateful to you and to the people across this country who have given to this campaign. it's not about paul and me. it's about america and the future we're going to leave to our children which we thank you and ask you to stay at it all the way until victory on tuesday night. [applause] now i have a question for you, are you finally ready for real change? [applause] as you know four years ago barack obama promised to do so much. he promised to be a bipartisan but he became the most partisan. then he was going to focus on jobs instead he focused on obama care which killed jobs. he said he was going to cut the deficit in half but doubled it. he said the unemployment rate would be at 5.2% and today we learned it's at 7.9. unemployment is higher today than when he took office. he promised he woul

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remember, you have paul ryan is part of the young guns. so they caused a little mischief the last time we tried this. this is less about having faith in paul ryan's actual ideas and more about politics. and sort of keeping his close, keeping him engaged, busy doing something so he's not out there making mischief. >> rana, it seems maybe that conservatives are coming to grips with the notion that there may be a tax increase on upper income earners e. i point you to bill crystal saying the unspeakable. let's take a listen. >> there will be a deal by december 31st. i believe republicans will yield on top rates. president obama ran twice and won two elections. he didn't raise rates in 2009. we were in the midst of horrible downturn. they were able to bargain to a deal. i don't think republicans have the lemplg or that it's worth using whatever leverage they have to maintain rates at 35% instead of 37%. i don't think it's economically important enough. then the big deal has to be big tax reform with lower rates. >> let's hope they do, but they

ryan and by paul ryan's wife. they flew inch. it was short. it was to the point. it was direct. and full the best tone in the campaign. he did it just right. he said the election is over. aid he picked the right v.p. he didn't lay anything on paul ryan, which is appropriate. he said he called the esident. anere. he said we have to end the partisan bickering. he didn't come out dragging his family surrounded by him. he too right up there by himself. i thought it was very well done. >> he began by -- >> no complaints. >> he began by congratulateing was very prays the president's success. andtation that i haven't seen in hisj and this is so common that good and decent people when they have to give a concession speecht'b out more abo is, and this looks like a man who knows what he's going to do tomorrow. he doesn't look like someoneho is lost. he doesn't look like somne who doesn't know how to go on with lifeó without having this high office. >> it looked to me like he had thousand-pound brick taken off his back pr

>> paul ryan is a 25 year friend of mine. i don't think paul ryan would launch a presidential campaign. he really hates fundraising. this was the ideal way in for him. he had a way into the presidency without moving on his own. i think the man empowered tonight is rick santorum. i think he's waiting in the wings. i think santorum, and other conservatives, rubio, because of the hispanic issue, may be a desire to reemerge. >> there's going to be a fight there. that just plays in the democrat's hands. paul ryan couldn't even deliver wisconsin, his home state. he really want that prominent in the campaign. he wasn't nearly as big of a factor as people thought. >> i do not, candidly behind the scenes, my advice was not to do it. because i think what happened down the stretch is ryan was perceived as so conservative, and so far right, for instance in virginia, you will notice on the ads they didn't use his face, because they couldn't use him. i think in the campaign, at the end of the day, they were all sitting around in a circle s

was that the campaign paul ryan would have run? >> oh, gosh. you know, i think -- when you join a ticket three months out, you join somebody's campaign. i was really impressed with the way mitt and ann brought us into the fold. so i was very encouraged by that. i really enjoyed it. and i wanted to run a big campaign on ideas. we did that. we ran on ideas. >> reporter: "saturday night live" poked fun at ryan, a native of jamesville, wisconsin, for failing to help romney win his home state. >> mother sent me to come get you, father. paul ryan is doing feets of strengths in the drawing room. >> hell, i'd like to see him carry wisconsin. >> reporter: so what happened in wisconsin? >> i think we got higher than that. a little bit. janesville has always voted democrat top of the ticket. wisconsin has always voted democrat top of the ticket so we knew it was an uphill battle but still fought. >> reporter: the president wins 330 some electoral votes, every battleground state with the exception of income, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't

was that the campaign paul ryan would have run? >> oh, gosh. you know, i think when you join a ticket three months out, you join somebody's campaign. i was really impressed with the way mitt and ann brought us into the fold, so i was very encouraged by that. i really enjoyed it, and i wanted to run a big campaign on ideas. we did that. we ran on ideas. >> reporter: "saturday night live" poked fun at ryan, a native of janesville, wisconsin, for failing to help romney win his home state. >> mother sent me to come get you, father. >> uh-huh. >> paul ryan is doing feats of strengths in the drawing room. she thought you'd like to see. >> well, i'd like to see him carry wisconsin! [ laughter ] >> reporter: so what happened in wisconsin? you lost janesville. >> john mccain got 30%. i think we got higher than that. >> a little bit. >> a little bit. janesville has always voted democrat top of the ticket. wisconsin has always voted democrat top of the ticket except for the reagan '84 landslide. so we knew it was an uphill battle but still fought. >> repo

tonight's question, who is paul ryan, who is paul ryan going to fight for? text a for the rich, text b for the middle class. you can always good the our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. let's bring in congressman pascrell and robert reich, as the author of beyond outraged. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. >> how are you? >> congressman, let's start with you first. what do you expect with paul ryan at the helm of these negotiations? >> well, it doesn't send -- i'm not frightened about that situation. in fact, one of the things that paul does bring to the table, and i think it's necessary here is urgency. this is an urgent situation we need to address. if we kicked this can down the street, and i would contend that if you do away with all of the bush tax cuts, and supposedly start anew in january, february, i don't think that helps us down the path. i think we could strike a deal to get 218 votes. we need about 30 to 40 votes on the republican side and the house of representatives. this is a time when we got

paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these ideas we're talking about are popular ideas. >> these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. they were so popular, michelle, he lost the presidential election, he lost his home state of wisconsin, he even lost his hometown of janesville, but he says he has a mandate. >> look, mr. ryan has visions of 2016 dancing in his head. he can't admit that what he's based his entire legislative career on, this budget plan of his s a loser. he has also made noises, as dana points out, he wants to be part of the solution going forward. he's going to be a little more conciliatory than they have been in the past if they want to get anything done. because the republicans don't want this fiscal cliff bomb to go off, because then their priorities are going to be in the firing line. >> you could have fooled me, mic

they're wrong to say -- >> i want that paul ryan back. i want that paul ryan back. the guy who we ultimately -- >> you'll get 60 trillion in new debt. >> paul ryan is mr. debt. >> he is. he was a freeze numbers guy. >> he's just joshing you. he understands free market competition can work in health care just like it works in everything else. >> frank lil if we're talking about, okay, it's not so bad to go back to clinton era tax rates, let's go back to the spending. nobody is putting even that on the table. we're talking about pretending if he cut a dollar anywhere, we'll have seniors dying in the streets. frankly i would like the old paul ryan to say talk to me seriously about spending, and i'll go along with the rest of the gop and talk about taxing. >> you tell me if i'm wrong. the republicans -- >> you never have been wrong. >> occasional i'm wrong, but i did save you from going into the administration right in this area, but anyway, you are who you are, and we're glad you're here. obama doesn't want another recession. the idea that pallety murray/chuck schumer

they are courageous and they have looked at paul ryan and said, huh-uh. you don't share the same values. >> let's look at the politics of this. when you look at the new msnbc wall street journal poll, it shows the real jender gap that has come out of all of this. romney has a seven-point lead among likely male voter. obama has a lead among women voters. nearly ten million more women voted than men in 2008. they are a force to be reckoned with. >> oh, without a doubt. and we could have the year of the women this year. not only seeing more women in the congress elected but more women voting than ever and, by the way, i don't know if you're aware of this because it was a surprise when i learned it a little bit of go, the undecided voters are mostly women and they are looking at this and they are very smart at the end of the day they are going to come home to president obama and the democrats because these guys who were running and i include mitt romney who think so little of women and their judgment, who have so little respect for women that they would put a

paul ryan? to strike a deal? the same paul ryan who's been flexible time and time again? the same guy whose ideas were rejected by the american people on election night? who wanted to voucherize medicare and cut taxes for the rich? he's their guy to work out a deal on taxes? the truth is a lot of republicans don't want to deal. they want to see the error of their ways even when they're called out on. >> why wouldn't a middle-class voter look at that and say these guys, the gop, are all about protecting the rich? >> we're the party that wants growth, pro-growth policies. let the democratic party be the party of government growing revenues. this country doesn't need two liberal or democratic parties. yes, we need to show our policies are appealing and work for the middle class, but we don't need to abandon our principles. this country doesn't need two democratic parties. >> don't be fooled. when a republican says pro growth, what he really means is trickle-down. it's never worked. but that doesn't stop republicans from pulling out their old playbook. here's what influential

>> paul ryan is a very pleasant man, but a very rigid one. and it's clear to me, he is for higher military spending, he is for keeping taxes low on the wealthiest people. he's trying to undo the legacy of domestic programs to improve the quality of life. i expect him to continue to do that. i do have to comment on this very strange complaint. apparently his complaint is that people voted. and people voted who were the kind of people who weren't supposed to vote. they tried to do voter suppression. this notion, oh, my god, we lost because people voted. it's a little like complaining, you know, we lost that ball game because the other team got too many runs. i mean, it literally makes no sense to complain you lost because people voted. that's what people are supposed to do. it does reveal their mentality, which is those people, those urban people. they're not supposed to vote. we can count on them not voting. they tried also, of course, to suppress the vote. when people rejected that and went out and exercised their rights ads citizens, they're

felicia, one last thing, and i can't get enough of paul ryan so i will ask you about paul ryan again. does paul ryan view himself as elevated after this campaign? it's an odd thing to go from being the vp and you're surrounded by security and now you're a house member again not that that's a bad thing but it's a different thing. was he prepared for this adjustment? it seemed mitt romney was stunned when he lost. did you get any clue that he thought this was coming? >> absolutely not. he was in the same boat that romney was. he didn't have the misfortune of telling the press corps he prepared a victory speech and not a concession speech. he was in the same boat. >> just stunned. >> stunned. his family, his staff, everybody. we saw it at headquarters, they were not prepared for this. i think it says a lot about how much confidence they had in the message they were bringing. you see even in the interviews that he's done since election day he hasn't really, you know, sounded the same note that some people -- that bobby jindal had, that we need to change course. >> i think it will be a fas

paul ryan to do since he's not going to be vice president. what they want paul ryan to do once he and mitt romney lose the election next week. i sort of can't believe it didn't get more attention yesterday afternoon. it is also the purest and most direct rebuttal of that campaign's own rather heroic efforts to project some super human confidence about how much they think they are going to win on tuesday. joining us is a man who is in the business of knowing who is going to win, nate silver, for "the new york times." he's the who author of "the signal and the the noise." thank you for being here. >> thank you, rachel. >> a lot of headlines say that since mitt romney is going to pennsylvania, that must mean that pennsylvania is in play. from the numbers, do you believe pennsylvania is in play? >> you had the list of 24 polls and none had romney ahead. some were done that had romney up a couple points there, but no public pollster has had him with a lead all year. it's not just that obama is up there, but it's a state where it's been stable and

now that those who believed in austerity have abandoned it, will paul ryan accept that the president's balanced approach is actually the better way to deliver economic growth? >> yes, and i think the comment from this colorful mayor as well as a lot of other european leaders should make both parties step back here. remember what the fiscal cliff, the prem m is -- the entire premise that it is based on in august of 2011, which is that we had to have deficit reduction to match dollar to dollar the amount of debt ceiling extension. that is a good policy if we're in 3% or 4% economic growth but when the economy is growing at 1% or 2% growth you don't engage in fiscal austerity. 90% of all economists believe in keynesian economics. the idea now that we have to be facing a fiscal cliff when the economy is only at 2% is wrong and is wrong for most economists' point of view. if democrats and republicans are looking for a way out of the fiscal cliff, this whole idea of having to cut $1.6 trillion in january '13 is just a made up number. it's an artifice. there's no reason we need to stick to th

the governor and his running mate, paul ryan, are on the ground in cleveland. it's the ticket's last stop together before going their separate ways. the gover

that is paul ryan. this is what he was caught saying on a conference call with some evangelicals sunday. the president's path compromises those values, those judeo-christian, western civilization values that made us such a great and exceptional nation in the first place. why doesn't mr. ryan call him an islamic terrorist? >> he may as well. it's difficult to be both pathetic and outrageous at the same time, but mr. ryan has beautifully done that. this is a continuation of the narrative we have discussed which is trying to paint the president aed a kenyan revolutionary outside the american mainstream. there are racial dog whistles here. religious dog whistles here. the fact this is paul ryan's closing argument in the final hours of this election is a sign of not only the desperation but the shameless transparency of this campaign. >> last week we learned of a romney/ryan robocall to voters in virginia that also attacked the president on religious grounds. we've had the bloviating ignoramus in the version

he took time to thank paul ryan his running mate. >> i want to thank paul ryan for all he has done for our campaign. and for the country. besides my wife ann, paul is the best choice i have ever made. because of his hard work and commitment to principal we will continue to contribute for the good of our nation. >> we will see more of paul ryan he was re-elected to congress last night. back to you guys. >> patti ann? >> after months of campaigning balance of power in congress little change this morning. the gop keeps control of the house of representatives. the republicans fell 240 to 190 advantage. republicans won 233 house seats more than the 218 needed for a majority. demes won 186 feet. michelle bachmann winning. paul ryan wins his congressional seat as mentioned for his 8th term in wisconsin. republicans fell short to win control. the gop won races including one in massachusetts. democratic challenger elizabeth warren defeating republican scott brown. in missouri claire mckaskill defeati defeating. there are big wins for the republicans. in arizona jeff blake democrat richard har m

and how about paul ryan himself. is he the one who might be able to broker a deal given he's such a hard liner. rebecca, let's say hello to joey from chicago. joey, how you doing? >> caller: wrong wrong! we won this election on taxes period. that's how we won this election. if we use any any republican ideas, nobody will come out in two years and take over the house of representatives. obama's gotta stick to it! it's going to have to go over the cliff because republicans aren't going to give in. so we have to stay strong and in two years, we blame it on them and we take over the house of representatives. do not give in or the democrats won't show up next time. >> bill: all right. we got it, joey. that is a message you hear from a lot of democrats which is we won the election. president obama made it very clear. on the tax cuts from the bush tax cuts, there's no doubt. he said no way no how. if you want those tax cuts to go away, you think they've been there long enough, you vote for me. if you want them to continue y

ryan, the vp search cha chose paul ryan. he arrived sometime before the governor arrived. the hotel they were staying at is attached to the convention center. i expect he was working on the concession speech. one thing he did say earlier when talking about how he hadn't thought about the other speech, only wrote a victory speech he didn't share it with his top advisers, with ann. something he was going to do anyway and i suspect they were putting on the finishing touches and calling the president. >> what i keep thinking about is seven years, basically, he's been on this quest and as we remember when he went up to the debates every night, he would write on the podium, first word, dad. >> his father, of course, ran for president, was governor of michigan, ran for president back in 1968 was forced out of the race after making an unfortunate comment about being brainwashed by the generals in vietnam. it's been a long journey, matthew dowd, for mitt romney. but i wonder after the seven years has he left any stamp on the republic

so paul ryan has a future in the party. >> paul ryan has a future. reelected to his house seat. but the record for defeated vice presidential candidates seeking the nomination, if you want to begin with henry cabot lodge, richard nixonen in 1960 all the way through, it's a terrible record. from joe lieberman most recently to dan quayle to -- >> ryan i think more than any of those has an independent constituency in the party. they was intellectual leader of the party before he was picked. >> i agree he does and he certainly got a great following in the "wall street journal" editorial page and certainly conservative pundits. i think he's going to find out it's going to be a crowded road if he wants to pursue in the 2016. >> ifill: we have michael beschloss and richard norton smith. i am curious what you guys think of that speech. how does it rate? how does it rank among speeches of this kind? i thought it was a class act. it wasn't stevensonian but it was closer to al gore's speech we were just talking about than richard nixon's speech in 1962. >> almost everything is, richard. (l

that is where paul ryan will be later today. paul, good morning to you. i guess the question is, is pennsylvania really in play? >> that's what everybody is asking, randi. the last time a republican won pennsylvania in a presidential election? 1988. george herbert walker bush, it's been a while. but what's going on here? paul ryan, as you mentioned, he's coming right here to harrisbu harrisburg, that's why we're here. on the flip side, it seems that the obama campaign now putting some surrogates here. jill biden, the wife of the vice president will be here in pennsylvania later today, as well. guess what, former president bill clinton coming to pennsylvania to campaign on monday. you turn on the tvs here, randi, all you see are campaign commercials. i saw a ton in the local news. 10 million in the final days and the romney campaign is outspending the obama campaign two to one here in pennsylvania. 20 electoral votes at stake. here is the latest poll in pennsylvania. franklin and marshal, a four-point advantage for the president. very tight. that's within